You need 3.2 Billion Guests to beat this Scenario
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- You think 3000 guests is a lot? Try over a billion!
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Updated scenario: drive.google.com/file/d/1-LPu...
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Clarification: The lower limit for money in OpenRCT2 is much lower than -214 million and you can only play this scenario in OpenRCT2, so you can't underflow it in any way.
The 2nd version of the scenario where you have to close the rides twice a month might be shorter but it's also much more difficult. The ride closing is much harder to time than a guest entering the park, and the longer the rides are closed for the longer it's gonna take to beat the scenario, as the guest probability is 0 while they're closed.
Damn, that was my first thought: just hire a bunch of staff to underflow and max out your money
Could you put the guests in front of the elevator to make them happy again? As far as I know, a guest will always ride a free transport ride. Is there a chance that they will enter the entrance if you put them often enough in front of it? With path guests can enter an entrance, but I have no idea what happens without path.
Legit Ron of this scenario when? 😂
@@gfalt8425 Nope, the entrance has to be connected to a path for them to enter.
okay that was my immediate suggestion, to underflow the value.
Imagine seeing 10,000 year old hedge mazes. That's amazing! I would pay more than $3 for that!
Based on empirical evidence, I'd say people would pay either €28, €38, €48, or even €58 to have a chance to see it
@@chriscjohnston This made me smile. Thank you for sharing it. :)
I would pay that, in Greece they charge 17 euro 50 for only 3000 year old buildings 🤦🏼♂️
hedge "mazes" in heavy quotes there
@@NovaCyn Eh, it's the best they could do 10,000 years ago
Can't just settle for torturing guests anymore, huh? Marcel has to torture the player now, too.
Marcel is slowly turning into a Russian author/developer. If the characters/NPC's don't suffer, then the reader/player must suffer. See the works of Fyodor Dostoevsky, or the Pathologic games for reference.
Great, now I want to see a park based on the weird town from the Pathologic games, lol.
@@williamjeffery9653oh yes, the 3 whales on which Russian literature is founded: suffering of characters, suffering of readers, suffering of author
"This computer has been passed down in my family for generations. My father has played this scenario, and his father before him. I will play this scenario until my final days, at which point i will pass on our legacy to you my son. We are only 0.009% done, but our descendants will see our work completed one day."
i would hate to have that as my family tradition. i wonder if the person that finally finishes it will have any comprehension of what theyve accomplished.
Pretty sure any storage device would fail long before then
erm, actually, .009% of 55000 is only 5 years, not generations 🤓☝
And then the game crashed and they forgot to turn on autosave
All of this and the final generation will just make a video bragging about it with 370 views...
If Marcel goes to a bad place when he dies, it looks like he's planned out his own experience so the boss there doesn't have to.
Hello everyone and welcome to hell.
Marcel would go to Heck solely because Satan would want him to be City Planner.
This man’s becoming the Devil’s chief designer
Marcel: Hell's Damned Soul of the Month, 8 centuries in a row!
He goes to Heaven but is subcontracted to hell
For reference: The amount of ingame years is approximately the timespan of the Cambrian Explosion - the first time lots of different animal species evolved - until now. The real time it takes to beat this is roughly 4.5 times as long as human civilization has existed so far.
I better get started
@@chinemapictures yeah, you really have to, you're almost out of time.
I loved the amount of turns this video takes, but I think my favourite is having to switch the entry price for every single guest.
So, I guess the guests on the Universe Coaster could play this scenario to pass some time
This is approaching levels of player torture I've only ever seen in a Pikasprey video.
I dunno, I've never seen Pikasprey come up with anything that takes thousands of years to beat
@@DroppedMyMarbles If Pokemon would let him, he absolutely would
Are you familiar with graystillplays?
Gamechamp3000 exploded her own hands doing her most recent challenge run
@@digitaldeathsquid3448 Nice
It would probably take longer than human civilization has existed to beat this scenario
I think the best part was where you said a _434 year_ time loss due to pausing is "negligible"
You know we know how long that is right?
I mean... that I've created humans.
This reminds me of when people were running calculations on poorly-balanced idle games and pointed out how the time required was well past the heat death of the universe
I've seen quite a few of those games in my time. Like Dungeon Keeper mobile.... at one point it was like 24 hours to remove one block or pay some money to speed it up..... pretty scummy cash grab attempts.
I remember a real-time strategy game "Ikariam" - many upgrades accumulated build time and the last level(just ONE level) of a city wall would've taken 100 000 years to build...Seemed like the developerst ran some formula like 1,1* build time and stopped at level 100 without looking at the results.(This was circa 2009 I think)
I love how casually he threw in that the rides are 10,000 years old.
That's from when I did a previous long test to check how many guests I got per year which went on for 10000 years.
I’m beginning to think the T in “OpenRCT2” actually stands for “torture”
OpenCBT2
Marcel switched from torturing the guests to torturing the players instead
"switched from" ?
I don't think the guests were having any fun in there.
@@IsmaelSantos-xv9qf Those trapped 300 maybe not, but the other 3.2 billion came and went as they wished and weren't harmed in any way.
@@MarcelVos They just went to another park where they rode the wrong ferris wheel and ended up falling into the void from the exit
@@MarcelVos real city of Omelas energy there
@@MarcelVos I know in my heart that they went to another park created by you and met either a fiery death, fell into the void, drowned or got stuck in dantesque inferno.
I have no proof but neither doubts.
Additional 0.005 guests per year is not negligible, it generates ~21 cent per year, speeding up the run 1.5 times.
I know, but I just assumed that in the very long run (let's say a million in-game years) it would get closer and closer to 6 and not stay at 6.00568.
@@MarcelVos The variance approaches 0 over time. Assuming it settles at 6 seems reasonable to me, though if the actual number is different it would change things quite a bit.
It's still not happening within one player's lifetime, so it's negligible as far as I'm concerned.
You should make your own Tycoon game. All of the values and how they interact with each other would be spot-on.
Before finding Marcel's channel I spent two-decades thinking RCT was a fun little game about building theme parks and taking care of guests. Actually it's nightmare maths and structures that look like they should earn their creators an express ticket to The Hague.
This is more common in more games than people realize. You should see the nightmare math locked behind the minigames of some games or look at games that obviously have some math that they expose to the player, but then you see how those numbers work under the hood and you start seeing Greek letters appear in the formulas alongside multiple lookup tables sorting things into strange and eldritch categories when all you wanted to know is how to get a cute pet that seemed completely random.
Thankfully Marcel's already an easy drive away from there.
"I want to get of Mr Bones Wild Scenario now"
I love how your videos oscillate between building nice parks and reminding people of the horrors of existence
I believe scenarios should only be save-able as soon as its creator managed the completion goal. (Such as how Trackmania does it)
Good luck Marcel! Of beter gezegd, sterkte. 😉
I hope someone asked "what will you be doing in ten years from now?" Who would have thought the answer would be working a crappy job and watching a video of roller-coaster tycoon.
Jokes on you, I'm not working.
NEETmax
At least you don't have to answer "I'm 10 years into a 55,000 year long RCT scenario"
Thanks, I needed something to pass the time while I wait in line for the Universe Coaster.
Finally, Marcel has chosen to ride his own Universe Coaster
I’m amazed again and again with the creative exploitation of RCT game mechanics. I hope people are taking some of Marcel’s discoveries and implementing them into challenging custom scenarios-which hopefully won’t take eternities to win! 😂 With everything I’ve seen so far, I can start to imagine how to craft an accessible scenario that plays more like a puzzle, rather than a tycoon simulation!
Marcel's trying to petition Satan to let him run his own level of Hell
I gave an audible "Oh no!" when you revealed that HUD. Good lord!
Ah, the old "closing the rides at exactly the right time twice a month to avoid operating costs" trick.
the logical next step in the "fire all your staff and rehire them to avoid having to pay them" buisness model.
I love how they basically built tax evasion into the game
Imagine the satisfaction when you finally beat this scenario.
Pretty sure you’d start it over again having grown to love your own torture, or not knowing how to live without it.
If a genie ever comes up and offers me immortality, this is what I'll be doing with his gift
Assuming you had a perfect script to change the entrance fee and close the rides at the right moment and had 128x speedup, it would still take over 43 years in real time.
Hey Marcel, I'm a Flemish 34 year old that came of age in the late '90's and your channel has got me playing (open)rct2 again and reminding me of the good times I had decades ago playing it with my best friend that lived next door to me when i was a young kid. We always built those way too intense roller coasters that no guest dared to go on and we didn't know why (turns out we didn't know about banked turns and lateral g's). Thanks for the good vibes and reminding me of great days past. I still say it's the best old school pc game of all time, though I used to play a lot of Age of Empires 2 and Red Alert 2 as well and Carmageddon was fun too, getting points for running over pedestrians, that game was kind of deliciously evil. I watched most of your vids and have played through most of the openrct2 scenario's and had a great time doing it, and this is just a thank you for making that happen.👌👍🙌
I wonder how fast you could complete this with custom macros to change the ticket price and ride status frame-perfectly on fast forward.
Not much closer from a human viewpoint, I'm afraid.
The time saves are relatively pointless
or even completely automated. if the game automatically changed the entrance price, or just set it to the fixed average income each time and didnt do the check against how much the guest has, how long would *that* take? how fast can you make a computer process a tick of openrct2? i think you could get it down to a matter of days but for what it is that's still a lot.
Love these videos, RCT brainteaser scenarios are definitely the way this channel should go
What about a scenario where you can't charge for the entrance and you have to rely on the Universe Coaster to make your money?
5:00 There's an interesting detail about that 3/65536 figure: The CPU doesn't actually perform that division at all. All it needs to do is check if the random number is less than 3.
Someone will make an AI to finish this map for sure... and then people wonder why AI rebelion happens.
This seems like a challenge you'd find in purgatory.
Oh cool! Marcel released another custom scenario! Im going to go play it and then come back and watch the video after i beat it!
Normal people think Resident Evil is a horror game; Marcel viewers know Roller Coaster Tycoon 2 is a horror.
Can't wait for some speed runners to give this a go! 😂
I am from the future and it was actually really fun to complete this scenario. Thanks a lot!
Personally, I'm ready to get back to Marcel Plays. All this coaster-themed cosmic horror is draining my sanity, something I really don't need the week before Coaster Con 45.
Marcel, you are a smart man, and a lovingly evil man as well. Instead of just posting this map and watching as over the years people failed you explained how it works and how absolutely broken and evil it is. Hats off to you. You’re destined for continued greatness.
You know, I'm liking these showcase videos. Great to see "puzzlebox" scenarios on here!
Welcome to Episode 1 our Roller Coaster Tycoon Let’s Play of the custom scenario “Wait”
Guests showing up at the park: "How much to enter?"
Marcel: "How much ya got?"
It just dawned on me today that this isn’t a gaming channel, this is a math channel. I’m watching videos about someone doing MATH for FUN.
Can’t wait for the next one
Marcel just made RCT into 50 thousand years at Freddie's without the jumpscares
I love this evil puzzle box type of level design, it's so interesting mathing out exactly how long it would take
it didn't even crash computer yet 😂 good work
and now Marcel is on a mission to make the most crazy but entirely possible scenarios. love it!
Looks like we need to start developing a plugin that automatically adjusts the park entry fee to the amount held by the most recent spawned guest. Also see if we can't make a ride automatically close near the end of the month too. Time to delve into the APIs. We can automate this, let it run on a server on fast forward and have this beat in a jiffy.
I think this is the most Marcel scenario yet.
This is the greatest channel on UA-cam 😂
Imagine 7'500 years after you start the project the power go out and you forget to save.
Hypeeee
New marcel video for lunch break
I wonder how Chris Sawyer would react to seeing that Marcel Vos has done with his game...
This feels like a challenge sinful gamers are given in the afterlife and must complete before continuing to heaven
How do you even come up with this shit? The moment you got to the true meat of why it takes so long I just couldn't stop laughing, it's so ridiculous! I love it!
This is insane. Nice video!
You're missing another key thing you have to do the whole time. Hotswapping dying computer parts so the game or saving to replace the computer and hoping you can pay electricity the whole time
Which will happen because flash memory has a finite number of times you can save to it before it fails
I can't overcome the pleasant and inviting look of this map. It's like it's enticing me to play it.
"Oh dear, there's an exploit that allows you to shave of some time to make the incomprehensible amount of time necessary to beat this scenario slightly less incomprehensible. I need to fix that."
Never thought I'd see a Kaizo RCT map
If hell exists, it's just a room with a raggedy old computer running this scenario
Genuinely diabolical, well played.
your accent has definitely softened alot ever since i started watching your videos. Maybe I was in the minority but I found it endearing and was good way to practice and develop my Dutch accent :D
You have successfully made a nice game horrendously tedious.
The WR speedrun of this challenge is going to be lit, can't wait
Its Thursday and it's time for Marcel of RCT.
Marcel, you god damn madman!
A great way to kill time once you have an eternity in heaven.
Can't wait for Marcel to livestream this scenario.
As someone who loves to reverse engineer hardware, I absolutely love how you (ab)use obscure features of the game to create absolutely absurd scenarios. That being said I think my total playtime of (Open)RCT in this lifetime (so far) comes down to somewhere to 30-45 minutes.
This is an incredible niche of comedy lol
Science finally finds a way to halt aging. What will you do with your new found ability to live as long as you want without aging? What will you do with your life? Learn? Travel? The world is yours. “Im gunna play Marcel’s 55,000 year long RCT scenario”
Cant wait to finally see vos to stream a speedrun of this map
There's one factor you didn't account for, and that's that as time passes, you can pay off parts of your loan to reduce the interest, resulting in things speeding up more and more as time passes. Given the eons we're talking about, that's probably very significant.
i don't think you can pay off your loan with negative money but i could be wrong
How to make a extremely hard scenario: one. Give player a park that make very little money, two. Put player in ridiculous amount of dept
And the only ride is the Universe Coaster...
Marcel man, you are legit scary with your player torture scenarios
I think the actual way to beat it is to just wait for cosmic rays to flip random bits in your computer's memory.
If I paid $58 to enter into a theme park, and can’t get in, then I’ll jump the fence to get in
My head hurts from how insane this Senario is, lol.
This is the kind of scenario Mr. Bones would play.
when you die and if you go to hell they will make you do this then when your one guess from being done try reboot the computer and make you do it more
Good thought experiment but part of me wishes you had to beat the custom scenario you made before it could be shared.
So you wanted him to spend 55000 years beating the scenario?
@@MrSamBerrett1 Not our fault that is the scenario he made
Agreed.
taking notes for when I go to hell for eternity and get bored.
New speed running category lol
Marcel Vos, this level reminds me of those tricky Lemmings or Chip's Challenge that seem simple but are actually complicated and challenging. It also reminds me of the level "SLAVE" from the Doom WAD called "Eviternity".
But what it really reminds me of is that WAD made by Decino and his friends which is a WAD that forced the player to select NIGHTMARE difficulty because of the amount of extra ammo NIGHTMARE GIVES but also because the "easier" difficulties force Cyberdemons to spawn everywhere and Ultra Violence doesn't give you enough ammo to advance making it impossible to play on easier difficulties.
Scenario of pain and suffering, Marcel's favorite.
*since all these rides are 10,000 years old*
damn my man breaking history with this park
I'm just waiting for a scenario that's actually impossible to win. And with that I mean mechanically, not "Not living long enough to see the victory-screen". :D
Amazing. :)
It is the unwritten duty of the map maker to provide a video solution with an actual win, not just a theory.
I remember as a kid procrastinating on my math homework by playing RCT now 20 years later this happens
This is the evilist thing I've ever seen.gif
This feels like an episode of Pikasprey.
In the near future they'll use RTC as a source for Maths studies and tests
Why in the name of Chris Sawyer would you INTENTIONALLY build a scenario like this?!