How to Use the SMG-72 Pummeler Against Terminids in Helldivers 2
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- The Polar Patriots Warbond in Helldivers 2 introduced the SMG-72 Pummeler. In this video we take a look at how this new gun does versus the Bugs.
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Chargers are 100% getting a stagger resist buff after this, just like the hulks. They are going to claim it's an exploit just like the railgun and eruptor.
Liberator Concussive probably could do this as well.
Literally called it, but it's just a straight nerf 😂
“Glad that you like it, and did you say strong? Thank you for your valuable feedback” -some balance team staff
nah lets just remove concusive effect from this pummeler and fire dot from incindiery breaker as we did with shrapnels from shrapnel based gun, explosions from explosive crossbow and stagger from slagger (I no longer can see these big holes in big enemies btw :p) . everything will be perfectly balanced and the same.... peeps will gona love it :D :D :D as usualy, everyone loves boring stuff for the sake of balance.
These comments are fascinating to see considering the news of the last few days.
@@TNEQL wait wats the news
@@luwak926 The CEO stepped down from his position to become the main designer, and they'll be taking more time to balance stuff, with a focus on fun.
The Pumeler feels like what the Liberator Concussive should've been all along.
AH balance team: We found that the players are exploiting Pummeler to stunlock the non-chaff enemies such as charger, which is not the weapon intended use. Pummeler has been reworked, its stun effect now has diminishing return, the enemy that has been shot will gain stun resistance buildup and eventually becomes immune to stun, the said stun immunity will wear off after a short duration of 15 seconds. Additionally, to ensure Pummeler doesn't overshadow the weapon with the similar capability, the Pummeler capacity now reduces to a slightly less generous amount of 35 to and max clips reduce to a fair amount of 3. We hope that this change will make the Pummeler fun and enjoyable for all the players that had spent 1000 super credits for this balance and amazing warbond.
Nerfdivers2
This is so real
AH - watches video, sees gun is capable and fun, nerfs it - pretends it's part of some master plan - rinse and repeat. Oh yeah, take my money for a war bond then nerf the weapons. Joke.
@@robbtarte2389 AH will have their redemption arc when they release the big patch on Thursday
@@Mightbeanpummeler was “nerfed” though, so was the stun grenades but not as badly.
What’s up pooper troopers
Shooting tooting ready for pooping
Welp, incoming nerf to the stagger
2:43 and versus the brood commanders this is great, it only takes 1 mag to the face for a kill. you will only need 3 resupplies to clear a bug breach in helldive difficulty. If it's a bile spewer planet, you will only need 5 resupplies to kill 20 bile spewers which can spawn every few minutes.
You are not supposed to use your primary for every kill why are people who play this game so fucking stupid ?
You covered the point I was going to make, this is excellent when paired with DOT weapons. I ran it with the incendiary impacts and the flamethrower and it was some of the most fun I’ve had in the game. You see a bug breach, you throw a grenade on it and stagger everything that comes out while they take fire damage and being stunned gives you an extra second to get out the flamethrower and pour more fire on it. It also allows you to keep a target in the range of your strategem call downs. It’s not a quick kill weapon and I don’t think it’s meant to be, but it is fun when you learn its strengths and isn’t that what a game should be about.
I think it could be balanced better but that is true for all primaries in the game right now. It doesn’t make sense that it does less damage per bullet than the other smg, if anything considering it hits hard enough to stagger it should do more. I would be happy if it had the same damage as the other smg and kept the mag size of 45 and give the defender a mag capacity bump of ten or so more rounds (it can’t stagger but can dish out more damage over time and has fewer reloads). That makes more sense to me, buff the original guns to level out with new releases, don’t nerf all the new stuff to match the old.
This gun is not OP but has a perfect place in Helldivers! It’s stopping power makes it special and that’s pretty much it. This gun doesn’t need to be nerfed or buffed. It’s a SMG. The fact I can stop hoards on the run while firing on the run one handed is amazing too. I wish all weapons made sense like this one. Again not the greatest but it’s a SMG. Devs got it right this time. Now please devs keep your hands off it, no nerfing!!!
The pummeler is such a trash primary (ArrowHead is listening)
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I see you're having fun with that weapon over there.. it would be a shame if it got *nerfed*
They balance the weapons like it’s a competitive,pvp multiplayer game😭. Fuck those bugs. Whose side are u on Arrowhead!?
Lib concussive in shambles
It was already considered the worst gun in the game by many, now it even underperforms on it's niche LOL
That's awesome. It will be best in class in like a month
That charger got a nasty backshot in the beginning
It's not just in the butt with chargers, if any of their armour is stripped you can stunlock and kill them
I was using the eruptor before, since this warbond came out, i used once the pummeler, i never take something else (fuck the meta)
Been playing it since launch day and let me tell you - god tier against bugs.
Never seen a game with such a confused fan base. So called Helldivers take pride in being outnumbered and undergunned and at the same time claim the game sucks because they are outnumbered and undergunned. Orbital gatling and precision are too strong now.
Liberator concussive needs a larger magazine or have a faster fire rate than the pummeler, because I don't see them increasing the damage
I love pummeling chargers too ;)
Why stun when I can kill? Why spend two mags and several seconds on a butt instead of one rocket to the head?
Just because this gun can do something others can’t doesn’t mean that thing is worthwhile.
Keeping the horde back is very worthwhile and getting to freeze a charger in place can be very useful. I said very clearly it isn’t the quickest method but is still better than most primaries. You will not always have a rocket handy especially if you die so yes worthwhile
Consider the following: your teammate is running for the EAT on the ground with a charger on this tail and facing him. You can hold the charger with some pummeler fire while he scoops up the rocket and headshots it.
Guys yes, you can construct niche scenarios where this gun shines, I don’t disagree with you. But by and large you’ll have a much better time clearing higher difficulties with better primaries than this. I wouldn’t want to take this over a breaker incendiary, arc shotgun, jar etc..
it's just a test to show what it can and cannot do. If you have the rocket, sure, use that. But if you are stuck only with the primary, then it helps to know beforehand what you can do with it.
It's really strong though, especially against bots
i quite like this gun and its very telling that the community operates purely off hearsay when they compare it to the liberator which has an insane amount of stun compared to this thing, its instantly noticeable if you try them yourself but i guess most people are too lazy
similarly i like the pulverizer a bunch, its about the same in power as the liberator so its a little weak but viable, and it handles incredibly well, its perfect for mowing down hunters and shriekers since its so easy to stay on target, and it has more reserve ammo than the liberator too, but again people just look at the stats and ignore everything else...
This would pair well with incendiary minds
They're not clips. They're mags.
0:43
475 RPM
hIgH FirE raTe XDDDD
The liberator concussive is still useful. The two weapons do the same thing but the liberator has a about 3 times the knock back as the pummeler and this quite literally allows it to push back the horde
I absolutely adore this weapon against Bots. The ability to one hand this with a ballistic shield and stunlock those annoying rocket or shield devastators while taking little to no damage is amazing
Pin the pooper troopers comment
Can it stun the chargers long enough to like keep weapon swapping to my AMR to take pot shots? Like stun, swap, shoot, swap, stun, etc...
Hmm that would be interesting to see. I think if this were to work you would need a few bullets pumped in at a time to initiate the stun. A single bullet from pummeler doesn’t get them - they need multiple
nah really doubt it, you can see it managing to turn slightly even inbetween pummeler's bullets
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Watched a leaked weapon showcase of this warbond, and after getting my hands on them I can say my opinions stayed the same. Pummeler, new secondary, and grenade feel fine. I just wanted the tenderizer to be good though.😢 idk if there is a crit multiplier tucked away on hidden stats, but it sure doesnt feel like it.
It's the base assault rifle with a bit less ammo and 33% less recoil. What's the problem? I know it's not flashy but yall know weapons are supposed to be sidegrades not direct upgrades right?
@@zacfor4454 A sidegrade that excels in what exactly? Sure it has less recoil, but it does less damage, has fewer rounds in the magazine, and doesn't even fully resupply from resupply containers. The weapon is utter shit, stop coping about it
@@zacfor4454 I mean if you had an issue with the base liberators recoil idk what to tell you. I'm not taking 10 less shots per mag just for slightly better recoil and a couple more mags. I never implied it had to be broken, but its description clearly says it should be a bit more powerful within its category in exchange for the the tradeoffs it has.
My interpretation of what the tenderizer should be is being able to take brood commanders/stalkers/ devastators out in less shots in exchange for mass add clear potential. Is that so crazy to think?
Stagger doesnt meant anything without the damage to take down the target
Especially when you're alone
Now keep pushing this, so Alexus can nerf it once again lmao
Respectively, the bullet holding devices are called magazines, whereas a clip is a thin piece of metal that holds bullets of which is stripped away when loading into a firearm.
M1 Garands have clips.
Either way, I love the video, haha
Seems like a good sidearm but I still prefer the pistol grenade launcher to close bug holes. I can't clear a bug hive with only 4 grenades.
It’s a primary not secondary but you can carry SMG’s one handed which means you can shoot them backwards like a sidearm. They are considered a light and quiet weapon, making them good at carrying the SSSD’s in missions and killing enemies who are alone or from behind without alerting others. It behaves as a sidearm. So carry both! Grenade pistol 🔫 is amazing.
Nice vid!
But the question is why would you waste all these bullets and time on stagger, while other weapons can kill them at the same time, or even less, with less bullets. Trying to understand what's the point of this weapon. Especially on higher levels
My perspective is when you are facing off against the horde, even a more deadly primary is not going to handle everything at the same time. Likely will need a stratagem or something else to get the majority. The benefits of this are keeping them off you, giving you space and time to call down that support. But also generally things like brood commanders, bile spewers all being able to be stopped from their attacks with just a few bullets can be invaluable for survival.
@@DrPooplove Yes, for a full stratagem build it could work in that manner for sure. But as gun to purely kill, it struggles. I should try it more and maybe a different play style could make it more efficient.
I mean, the entire point of the weapon is being able to lock down targets with stagger and render them harmless. Of course you have to sacrifice a bit of damage and time to kill because being able to lock down stalkers, bile spewers, and even chargers is very powerful imo
If you don’t understand why stagger is so good, you’ve either never used stun grenades before or you’ve never been staggered to death by hunters that keep interrupting your stims
Using the Pummeler as a pure kill gun doesn’t make sense when that’s what the Defender was designed for. Pummeler sacrifices some lethality in exchange for making it way easier to survive enemy attacks by stunning them
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I have used the gun quite a bit now. And in helldive difficulty I simply don't find any use for it. It can't kill anything fast enough, and you're just sitting there getting swarmed to death. So you can sit there and lock a few targets maybe, but you'll get overwhelmed fast enough and die. You need to kiil stuff, and you need fast time to kill. Don't get me wrong, I like the weapon as a secondary perhaps, but why stagger to a limit when at the same time you could kill. Or actually do both with other weapons.... anyhow have a nice day
I don't really understand this game's tradeoff logic with with damage and stagger. I get that they want to keep things balanced... but a less damaging round is unlikely to have more stopping power. Doesn't really make sense. The pummeler still feels great, so it's kind of a nitpick, but I feel like damage and stagger should go hand in hand. The higher the damage, the greater the stopping power-that's how it should be, at least for single-projectile ballistic weapons (barring special effects like flaming or electric-shock bullets or something). Energy weapons, sure, make up whatever rules you want. But it just seems kinda silly to look at two SMGs and see one does more damage but with less stagger. Makes no sense. For balance, you can fuck with fire rate, capacity, handling, reload time, etc. But damage and stagger should generally go together for those weapons.
Not how it works. One of those 40mm rubber bullets would stagger a person more than a bullet that went in and through. Stagger isn't the same as damage. Not even in real life.
Don’t they make the rounds differently than lethal munitions? In real life I know they have rubber bullets etc but if they are then how do they penetrate and kill our enemies of democracy? 💯 honest question. I’m not a bullet expert.
@@UnkyJosh420 correct. Rubber rounds are something I would consider a "special" round or effect, like electric and incendiary.
Crazy to see how fast a fanbase can turn on a game these days, for myself i couldnt care less about buffs/nerfs I WILL ADJUST and still have fun with games. But at the sametime im 40 yo and coming from a generation of gamers that played the hardest games, without any videos explaining everything. These days i see videos explaining games that ive finished back when i was 15 and barely speaking english and seeing people saying "thank you i couldnt finish this game without your video" and im like wow "gamers" these days are really not good at all. I think that explains why alot of people are crying about nerfs, they cant adjust and just want easy games.
Same , these are the same babies who say we never get any good games then cry over balancing Sony should have kept this a ps5. PC players are beta af
alright grandpa time for bed
the nerfs are shit and even the ceo feels the same
It’s great you’re still having fun. Hell, I still have fun with the game, but you don’t understand how frustrating it is to have a gun you like get nerfed to the ground and then be told “adjust, just pick a different gun lol” as if you didn’t spend all that time playing to unlock said gun.
That’s not fun, that’s being told “You’re having too much fun with that weapon, find another one”
This has nothing to do with skill, they just make the weapons feel less fun, which is what people take issue with.
Why is this game balanced like it’s PvP?