@@Luffz like everything else in this series, i swear. The clones which have numbers on their foreheads, the dragons named after angels, people turning into salt, ect ect.
Well, considering it started with a sudden event that spit the timeline into two, bringing dragons, magic, salt viruses, separation of body and soul, gods, etc... aliens... why do aliens seem crazy? I blame hollywood and their alien movies!
Same. The narrator just goes on and on instead of pacing herself. Lots of YT narrators make this mistake. Although it might just be a tactic to get people to actually play the game.
@@deedeestarman.mypronounsar9858 get over yourself humans literally only exist to live, breed, and die. having a bit of lewd content isn't going to hurt anyone.
@@deedeestarman.mypronounsar9858 wOmEn aNd SaNe MeN: hE'S a MiSoGyNisT, lEt'S NoT AsSoCiaTe Or sUpPoRt HiS GaMes. You sound like one of those crazy feminazis, AND other than seeing some lewd content I only see a genious, even though convolouted, story with some amazingly written characters, both male AND female, and both have very, very impactful actions on the story. And with this little explaination I've already negated that he's a mysogninist.
So. In short: Girl from a brothel, with a flower instead of an eye kills her sisters and is killed by clone of her own clone/sister, that later gives the beginning to the bloodline, and one of his descendants eventually kicks Godlike being into OUR realm, which causes the disease that turns people into salt, so people come up with an idea of splitting souls from bodies, but it eventually fails. Also, there's this boy Emil, that dies, turns into a puppet, later creates thousands of robots to fight off the alien invaders. WHAT. THE. ACTUAL. FUCK.
Same... so basically only thing that connects is Emil, since I am not sure if I am stupid, she didn't explained it, or there is no actual relative connection between games since Aliens simply showed up, wiped humanity, and end of story? did Emil travel in time? I didn't get that part. From magic and demons, random 360 turn, and boom, to science, robots, androids and aliens, no magic, no demons.................only Emil. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ UPDATE: I simply read WIKIA about NieR franchise, and I understood it better when I read it there. Now I see what is going on. "Shades are actually the souls of the original humans, who lived until around 2053 (2049 in NieR Gestalt). During Project Gestalt, these souls were separated from their bodies as a way to survive the incurable White Chlorination Syndrome, a deadly contagious disease, which threatened humanity with extinction at that time. These Gestalt forms were meant to be temporary until the threat would eventually disappear from the world by itself. Then the Shades would have been fused with their corresponding living shell, known as Replicants. However, due to a technological defect during the transformation process, the Replicants eventually developed a consciousness of their own and subconsciously rejected their fate as mere shells and as a result the Gestalts lost access to their bodies. Due to the relapse phenomenon Shades could become hostile and aggressive monsters, which are encountered throughout the game. " ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ And then there is this description about Nier (Gestalt Brother) "In the end, it is revealed that the Shadowlord is actually the original Nier, who was the player character in the beginning of the game. In the year 2053, 50 years after the incident where the The Dragon and the The Giant appeared in Tokyo, Nier and Yonah (as real humans) were trapped in Shinjuku district when its lock down commenced. Nier sought help for Yonah's growing disease from a charity organization's center that supposedly handed out food and medicine for the survivors. Instead he, along with 12 other people, received a clone of the Grimoire Noir. The charity was actually a human experimentation site designed to find the "original Gestalt," who can keep his own consciousness even after going through the "Gestalt process." When Nier saw the fellow survivors turn into crazed, relapsed Gestalts, he escaped with Yonah and sought refuge in a supermarket. The relapsed Gestalts found them though and Nier was forced to turn to the black book so he could fight them off. Yonah presumably touched the grimoire to help Nier, but this caused her to start to relapse. During the 1,412 time skip between the prologue and the main game, Nier's soul was separated from his body as part of Project Gestalt and this bodiless shade is later named Shadowlord. Just like the Replicant Nier (the character played as throughout most of the game), Shadowlord's ultimate goal is to not only save his sister, whose soul (or Shade) needs the body of Replicant Yonah, but save humanity (the Shades). As the first sentient Gestalt, the organization behind Project Gestalt offered to put the Gestalt Yonah into hibernation until she could return to her Replicant body in return for Nier (now in his "Shadowlord" form) helping them create stabilized Gestalts. Because of this, all the sentient Shades are linked to Shadowlord and his death would cause them to relapse. In the end, Gestalt Nier realized that the Gestalt Yonah's relapsing couldn't be stopped and he kidnapped the Replicant Yonah to return her to her body. This set to motion the Replicant Nier's quest for vengeance. " ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Like I mentioned about wiped humanity, basically it was meant that humanity was Shades actually, and not Replicants that were acting humans, and when Nier died as Shadowlord, since he was human and conscious Gestalt, unlike other Gestalts that were acting violently, everything was connected to him, and if he died, every Shade or more understandable - Human Souls, will die, humanity will be extinct, and it did went to extinction because Nier died. NieR Automata is just...androids, and robots that seem to have human traits, like emotions and such, are remains of these Gestalts/Human Souls that somehow got uploaded into network, and all robots are connected to network. Here: _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ "It is revealed in NieR: Automata that as a result of Nier dying, the human race eventually went extinct, due to the Gestalts relapsing and the Replicants dying from either the Black Scrawl or natural causes. This event led to the creation of YoRHa, the operation that would perpetuate the lie that humanity was still alive and on the moon. It is also stated that the machines psychological development was a result of the remnants of Project Gestalt's data being uploaded to the network, including the data of the original Gestalt: Nier. "
BIOSHOCKFOXX wow you explain everything nicely, i wonder why this comment so underrated, anyway thx mate *Edit : If u have even more further explanation regarding this, pls tag me, i have just started nier automata so i still clueless about this, anyway thx
BIOSHOCKFOXX Great summary. I understand a lot more about the first Nier game now. But you (probably) spoiled the end of NieR: Automata for me, not know if it is the end since I haven't finished it yet. So could you please edit that last paragraph?
When I quoted stuff from net, I skipped or didn't simply added the ending, since I already finished the game, I learned some few more things about YoRHa, their meaning, and so on, something that I didn't wrote here, so nothing is spoiled regarding few more details that you can learn at the end, but in general I did spoiled the fact, that there are no humans actually, and it's just a play made up by higher up androids to make other android units think there are humans, just like for us in religion, the religious people need to believe that there is God to keep some order and faith between themselves, to have a reason to live, same thing Humans is to them, but there are no humans, and everyone is tricked, but I wont say anything anymore, since there are few more things you'll learn when you'll finish.
Lore summary: Giant city rise out of nowhere bringing watchers and dragon. Zero was a child prostitute who contracted an illness and as she dies from it, a flower brings her back to life and grants her intoner powers. Zero freaks out and commit suicide but the flower trying to protect itself splits off from her and creates the other five intoner. Zero sets off to kill all the other intoners but fail and then attempts it again and succeeds but gets killed by intoner One's clone. One' s clone goes off and creates the cult of the watchers and create the seal system to prevent the seed of destruction from falling down to the world, the seals are held together by a chosen goddess. Many years later an empire tries to break all the seals and capture the current goddess Furiae and bring forth the seeds. When the seal breaks the watcher descend on the Earth and Caim with his dragon fights the watcher queen to a parallel world (Tokyo, JP) and defeats her but then gets shot down by fighter jets. As they fall down to tokyo they spread particles they brought from their world over Tokyo. These particle causes chloronation syndrom. Shit happens and the people needs to separate their soul from their decaying body until they are ready to be place in a replicant body when the threat of the syndrome is gone (project gestalt). Android's are now develop to watch over the project to ensure it's success. Nier trying to save his daughter/sister (Yonah) from the syndrom becomes the shadowlord, the person whos genetics is used to keep the project going. Many years later the replicant bodies develope sentients and are no longer following the projects plan. Replicant Nier trying to save HIS Yonah goes on a journey and ends up killing the shadowlord and also ends up sacrificing himself to save Kaine thus destroying project gestalt and ending humanity. Many more years later only Android's are left and automata takes place. I think that's how the lore went.
this actually helps understand the plotline, i ended up getting confused throughout all the explanation in the video so the summary is suuuuper appreciated :,)
I loved the video, but there was too much unneeded information. It creates an information overload and an inability to process everything. This summary made the video make sense.
But in drakengard 3 ending branch D. When Mikhail went to seal off zero and her sister in other parallel world. Tokyo already fall apart. I wonder if Drakengard 3 really prequel games to Drakengard 1? Not to mention also Yoko Taro want to make Drakengard 4 if Nier Automata are success in sales.
So, as it turned out, Nier: Automata did link itself pretty directly to the first Nier and by extension to Drakengard. It's fairly subtle, but I like this ongoing story that Yoko Taro has continued to evolve.
That's what so good about the games. So that the quality of the games are not wasted by the overly complicated timelines, they make connections to each game subtle so that the average gamer can enjoy one game on it's own
Quick shoutout to everyone who's said such nice things and enjoyed this video. It really blew up way beyond my expectations and I am so happy that I've been able to help a lot of people out and make them more interested in the series. I'm not very good with words but I'd just like to give a quick thank you. So, you know, thanks 'n stuff! :)
ValkyrieAurora Your video is awesome. I play way to many games with confusing timelines and storylines. So, even as a big fan of this series, I tend to forget things from time to time. My mind can only contain so many things. This is very helpfull.
This video really helped me understand the entire backstory of Nier especially since I hardly knew a thing of the Drakengard stuff. Though I am still confused on one thing. Was there any information on where the humans in Nier Automata came from or who they are? I ask this because I read a translation of the Grimoire Nier and it said something about how humanity was doomed when the "Original Gestalt" was killed off because all Gestalts were then doomed to relapse and die out and Replicants couldn't naturally reproduce, needing Gestalts to regenerate. So how could there still be humans?
You sure as hell better not stop here! You've garnered a following now and the snowball is rolling. Keep it up, there are plenty of possibilities and I've a feeling you can manage to execute it well enough that it works in your favor. Kudos. EDIT: Just realized Lana Rain is in full support of you which is good. Don't stop here. As Shia LaBeouf says, "JUST. DO. IT."
- "Replicant" is name of the shells made by true humans to put their soul in it. - "Gestalt" is the name of seperated souls of true humans, known as shades in Nier. - "Project Gestalt" is the name of the entire project which contains all processes including creating replicants, seperating souls from bodies and putting them into replicants.
A question friend, Nier and Yonah were successful replicants right? Weren't they supposed to be created when the whole pandemic was over and the Legion was destroyed?
I have no clue what exactly connected here... how is NieR Automata related to previous? some disease stopped and suddenly aliens showed up from nowhere and humanity already has androids? did Emil travel in time or what? wtf I was watching these 27 mins....???
TL;DR: There is a universe, with swords and shiet. At some point, a warrior, fighting an evil queen, gets transported to today's Japan (dimensional rift), bringing with them "demonic" particles, that are very hazardous. Then the infected become an army and want to wipe the human race, but are defeated, but that doesn't stop the disease. At some point (2032), humanity decided to separate the body from the soul to avoid infection (and to put themselves to sleep until the disease dissapears or they find a cure), and uses replicants as body in case the actual body is lost from the process. But replicants start becoming sentinent. Something something 2050 Nier sleepy mode 1000 year jump and it's 3288, gestalts wake up and find hostile replicants. Year 4000: Gestalts cease to exist. Year 5000 aliens invade the earth but sometimes they are peaceful sometimes hostile. They use robots as soldiers. The ones in Automata. Year 5600: peace between species. Somewhere in here, machines wipe aliens. 5600-11944: THAT'S A LOT OF WARS. 11944: 14th alien war. Humanity, faced upon extintion, go to live in the moon and make robots. 11944+: Nier Automata
Player7(SPOILER WARNING) i have a feeling you didnt explain it that well. i read other people explaining the lore a lot better. you didnt play all the games didnt you? with the last few lines i can tell you didnt play or finished Automata at all. Humans never went to the moon it was just a lie created by the Commander and the Androids that live on Earth. Humanity was already extinct by the time Alien invaded the Earth. the ones who created the YorHa type Androids were the Androids living on Earth that were created when Humans were still alive. the failure of the Gestalt project was due to the Android Models Popola and Devola which caused the Humans to be extinct. you shouldnt try to explain a lore if you dont know what your talking about
To be fair, Yoko Taro's story actually goes through several alternative dimensions and 10 thousand of years, with several different protagonists and antagonists with very different goals. KH is Xehanort being Aizen somehow and wanting the KH. Everything that happens there, can be resumed to "All according to Xehanort's Keikaku". That it manages to be almost as confusing than Drakengard/Nier is an achievement on its own, as technically all happens in a few years.
Kh is a world where death is meaningless and everything can be solve with friendship i still can't believe the human race went extinct partly because of nier, that's just depressing
@@lenlimbo That's true, at least games in the MGS and Drakengard/Nier series, as convoluted as they are when strung together, try to tackle different ideas with each iteration. KH games are all worse retellings of KH1's coming-of-age story.
@@alissaswan5060 no I wouldn't say that. The entirety of automata is damn perfect even without so much as interacting with emil. The fact that you can however, does add to the perfection for bonus points. As for replicant, I think kaine is more important to replicants story than emil. She's both more entertaining to listen to, has more character development, and has more relatable issues, and is also in love with the protagonist. Kaine is also the reason we get ending E. Emil is awesome and a really important Character...but the backbone of the franchise?.....I'd say the backbone is either yoko taros writing or MONACA's talented composers.
I came from playing NieR:Automata to understand the lore and 15 minutes in I am 5x as confused as before and I don't see anything of the story I know, wtf.
I just beat nier automata as well and wanted to see how the stories connect. I am kind of lost but I think it's cool how all the game essentially tell the story of Earth through different stages of it's existence
So, you're telling me that the Drakengard games take place in an alternate timeline that diverges in the 800s, which ends up resulting in a medieval and/or steampunk magical fantasy world that those games take place in, and one of them has a throwaway ending where a cataclysmic event crosses over into modern day Japan, which results in a _different_ alternate timeline diverging in the 2000s that the Nier games take place in, which devolves back into medieval fantasy before bouncing back into aliens and robots? Holy hell.
The devolution of civilization in the Nier Earth was intentional as it's the part of the Project Gestalt meant to limit Replicant's consciousness levels.
The fuck?? I’m about to start playing Nier after RE Village and I didn’t understand this comment lol. If this comment summarized the video, I’m not sure I’ll understand it either.
Well then I'm going to set up a new study at my university called "Plotology" in which students have to study the entire plotline of these games. The end exam consists of having to write down the entire plotline. It will be the most evil study ever.
After reading what you'd need to do to get the final trophy for Nier Gestalt (since I didn't have the willpower to do it all), I'd say Yoko Taro bends us over his knee and goes to town on our poor ignorant asses with a giant sword.
Holy sh*t, how do you manage to go from a medival fantasy type seting to a post apocalypt world where androids fight against aliens. Im gonna rewatch these video over and over so I can understand this plot.
Playing through Metal Gear or Kingdom Hearts games like this are still hard to get but it come together when you pay attention and play through everything
That is a reward for players who go after lore details and stuff outside the game. You'll not believe on how much crap i had to learn about his universe to then replay Automata and get the full experience lol
I heard a rumor that in the next game, NieR: Symbiothesis, androids, robots, humans, animals, dragons, flowers, and replicants are united in a gigantic machine called an Orgasmatron, to create a new species of Ubermenschen, in the year 58,756. The only clothing left on Earth will be the sexiest of unisex lingerie, Weiss's Secret. The game will be a dating simulator, with a fishing mini-game.
publisher: "So what is this universe about?" Yoko Taro: "Yes" publisher: "no, i mean the theme? setting?" Yoko Taro: "YES" publisher: "... g-genre?" Yoko Taro: "YEEEEEESSSSS"
the watchers are not gods, they are servants of THE god. And the cult of the watchers are servants of the watchers themselves, or rather a cult that worship them
the queen beast is not a god it is a servant of god. Kami in Drag on Dragoon is a literal monolithic entity similar to the concept of god in real life. The localization implied plurality to make it less of a comparison with Christianity
I played the first Drakegard when I was young, my question is, how the hell does this go from dragons, magic, knights, some guy named Cain ( I think), monsters to robots, a ruined earth, and big booty android ladies?
+Matthew Bond It's simple: Multiple Timelines, a Chasm in Time and Space, and a disease originated from going to one (NieR) from another (Drakengard), that's what leads to NieR: Automata.
From what I understand: - first universe/world = Magic/Knights and a lot of pacts with people. Basically, it's Gods vs Dragons. Events happen, Caim and his dragon follow a portal through to "our world", and Caim destroys a huge giant being that dissolves into the infectious particles that cause "white chlorination syndrome". Which leads to the creation of the Gestalt project (eg, trying to survive the disease). This leads to the absolute destruction of humanity, and aliens find our planet and try to colonize. This leads to Emil cloning himself with magic and fighting back, which leads the aliens to create the living machines AND continues the fight with the "machine wars". The fights lead to the robots themselves gaining sentience and then leads to more trouble...
I like how the sequels are more about people in the future dealing with the consequences of the things past protagonists did, even if they don't even have how to know they existed.
So if I’m getting this right. Drakengard 3 > Drakengard > Nier > Nier: Automata And Drakengard 2 kinda sits between Drakengard and Nier though not really counting.
Yessss, but also a lot of people (including me) think that the timeline will eventually loop because of end content in Nier Automata and the fact that the Cathedral city, which looks like a modern city, appeared out of nowhere in Midgard, just like the Queen Beast appeared randomly in Tokyo. It seems like a city will eventually be transported through time and space and sent "back" to ancient Europe, creating the Midgard timeline, which leads to the Drakengard --> Nier --> Automata timeline, only to loop again.
Chaotic Heretic ya kh isn't that confusing to be honest if ppl played the side games (reason if was confusing. If ppl didn't own the psp to play birth by sleep or ds for recode and Roxas story, gba for chain of memories (later remade on ps2) and 3ds for Dream drop distance then ya I can see why some fans would get confused. Plus the kh 1 and 2 we got back then wasn't the full version since Japan had the scenes like in kh 2 for Terra's armor before appearing in birth by sleep. Now it isn't really a problem since ps3 (soon PS4 release) have the 1.5 and 2.5 with the full versions and side games in one system and 2.8 on PS4 with DDD and 2 new stories.
Nier's ending E continues off on ending D, it's not really a different ''ending'' as Nier only has four endings in-game. Ending E is essentially just a nickname for the events that took place during The Lost Novella, which continues on from ending D. Also, you're free to go watch any other video you want to if you feel like they're better. I'm sure there are more well-produced videos out there; go watch them instead then. I'm just a university student, can't afford the best mic and editing programs really, I just made do with what I had but cool of you to be a dick about it.
Tim burton doesn't have nearly as much continuity to compete. Frankenweenie>Corpse Bride>The Nightmare Before Christmas Yoko Taro: *Massive Connecting Plotline*
Holy crap, good job on connecting all the dots. I'm surprised Yoko Taro has been able to connect this many vaguely related stories together while keeping them good stand alone games at the same time. Mind = blown.
I'm sorry but "able to connect" is not the expression you are looking for, they are not connected, and only share names and... Art style? Even the drakengard games aren't connected between them. Saying that they're somehow on the same universe is the biggest stretch.
gaston archilli what? This video shows exactly how the games’ stories are connected. The events of Drakengard lead to the setting in Nier and the events of Nier lead to the setting of Automata
nonono its actauly EASY to explain eve if you start from the start. All you need is like a 3 min text prolog for eve and its easy as fuck to understand. The multi time line bullshit of nier i hate cas its the artist trying to tell multiple storeys with the same characters. and technically all of them happen. The whole multi world bullshit just turns into a cluster fuck over time if they dont know how to make a plot converge.
evangelion is pretty straight forward though. angels wanna meet with adam the first angel to create third impact. Humanity survived first and second impact (both of which are failed attempts from angels to fuse with adam) but they know they won't survive the third. So by causing a human to fuse with adam (the angel eve split up into a race called humanity), they can cause third impact and safely preserve humanity via using third impact as a reincarnation of humanity. See? not that hard. Only thing that doesn't make a lick of sense is why it had to be the lil shit shinji (though I guess a person raised with knowledge of human self loathing would have a better vision of an idealized humanity-except the lil shit flakes out and just has everyone reborn flawed as before)
Arturo Sanchez Ok see. I understood that because I've seen the series. Trying to explain that shit to outsider like how I was to Drakengard and Nier is fucking difficult.
Also, context for future viewers: *This video only traces the connected literature from Drakengard 3, 1, and 2 up to and including the Nier spinoffs. Valkyrie does NOT explain each and every ending of each and every game, because that would take an absurd amount of time to explain. We have the wikis for that, anyway.* _Please be advised that prior knowledge of relevant endings of Drakengard and Nier is prerequisite to understanding a video about Yoko Taro-related games._
sooo... it basically goes from fighting dragons and gods, to a deadly pandemic bent on creating a slave army to conquer the world, to an alien invasion, then a machine vs. android war?
@@TiyZzi bloodborne doesnt' really have the deepest message compared to nier. Its a more expansive game in terms of sheer content but nier is huge in the message and the way it conveys it through its music and dialogue and style and storytelling. From a critical standpoint, nier by far beats bloodborne as a work of art
What I love most about Yoko Taro's Drakengard/Nier series is that there is such a massively in-depth convoluted history to his worlds, but he doesn't care nor does e particularly want you to put it all together. What Taro want you to focus on is the things that happen in the games, not why it's all happening. The fact that there is all this confusing backstory just reinforces the sense of helplessness and feelings of a much larger uncaring world these characters find themselves in.
Why is that something to love about it? It just proves that Taro doesn't respect anyone who plays his games. He's an arrogant sadist who thinks he's way smarter than he actually is.
This was only possible thanks to maso, the element discovered thanks to the Dragon's corpse (Angelus). I don't think maso would be useful to build a spaceship xD
Kerwin C I don't really think that just because this maso or whatever is in the dragon,the dragon flies because of it. Note that I never played any of these games and I totally accidentally stumbled upon this video.
My only problem is when you show all these clips i keep thinking you are talking about the scene only later to find out that the scenes you were using dont match up with what you are talking about. Seems like there was a double meaning to the scenes that you focused on so i am getting all kinds of confused.
That was my problem too. The story she is telling is already complicated as hell, I'm trying to pay attention close as fuck and the visuals are telling their own story and I'm trying to remember what ps2 graphics looked like.
7 minutes in aaaaaaaaand you lost me... Props for the making this video though, it was insightful... confusing as all hell, but I learned that Kingdom Hearts isn't the only convoluted tale out there.
*before watching video Me: "All right, now I can finally make sense of this convoluted franchise once and for all!" *after watching this video Me: "I think I'm even more confused about this franchise now"
Yoko Taro man. Yoko Taro. (Actually if you play the games and pay attention you will understand most of the story and with books you can understand the full story.)
You sound like you got a doctorate in Drakengard/Nier. I just finished playing through all of Nier Automata so glad to have the background minor knowledge gaps filled in. Though having the right game footage up from each game you're talking about at each point would have helped match your words to the game being discussed. But my brain was able to keep up nonetheless, appreciate the work you put in for this.
So in case I get hit by a bus tomorrow, here's my testament. There was once a boy named Alex, and he was in love with NieR: Automata so much, he watched this one video at least thrice, start to finish. And he was intending on watching it, start to finish, at least three times more. Thank you, Aurora. And thank you, Yoko.
After finishing Nier I thought this would give me more insight into the world and the Gestalt project and get some background for Automata, yet now I'm SO much more confused
Kingdom Hearts actually makes sense: Xehanort wanted to forge the x-blade to unlock KH. He pit Ven and Vanitas, equal forces of light and dark against each other and forged the blade. He then possessed Terra, who served as the new vessel for the old man. Ven killed Vanitas and destroyed the x-blade while Terra fell to the realm of dark in an attempt to stop Xehanort. Aqua saved him but fell to the realm herself. Ven fell into coma in the Oblivion Castle while Terranort experimented with the heart and got consumed by the darkness in it, splitting into a heartless and nobody. His heartless tried to open his own KH by gathering the hearts of Disney princesses. Sora, who turned into a heartless at some point, became human again but created a nobody named Roxas. Sora stopped this heartless from opening KH Meanwhile the Xehanort's nobody started an organzation including the Roxas guy and used his keyblade to slay heartless and use the hearts to create his own KH. The nobodies in the group were defeated by Sora and he stopped the nobody Xehanort from gaining the power of KH. Roxas and Sora combined and so does Kairi and Namine (who was created when Kairi's heart left her body to reside inside Sora's). The destruction of the two revived Xehanort, who planned to gather his different incarnations and the surviving organization members and his younger self to form a new organization of darkness that would fight Sora and the guardians of light, an equal force to counter Xehanort's darkness , to reforge the X- blade Not to hard compared to Drakengard, don't you think?
You say that, but I'm reading this and just being like "Uh... what? I don't wanna be eaten by a Xenomorph!" Then again, I suppose it is like 6:30 and I can only say that I think a slept a little... at some point.
There was the Book of Prophecy which states that the World of Kingdom Hearts would be doomed in the future so the five foretellers worked together to stop KH from being consumed in darkness. The Sixth foreteller however planned to set the events that will lead to the prophecy. He spread the rumor that there was a traitor among the foretellers so they began accusing each other and inevitably started the Keyblade War with their factions, over the X-blade. Xehanort wanted to wage another war and gain the power of the X-blade. No one knows what's inside the black box as of now (but there's a large chance it will be cleared in the upcoming KH3) but it is theorized that the Book is inside the box
I find this information useful because I didn't even played any of the previous games, however, you could use some visual aids of who are you talking and what is happening because sometimes I've got confused between the video and what you were telling. Anyway, nice video, I am really hyped about NIER automata, thanks for sharing this info!!! :D
True enough, but even a text overlay of some sort could help keep some concepts, names, places, timelines, or events clearer. As a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge fan of Drakengard/Nier, and having read Grimoire Nier and the various novellas a couple times, it's nice to have text or visual aids for this sort of thing. To a person who comes in to the series absolutely blind wanting to get "caught up" for Automata, the visuals in this video just serve to complicate matters when they don't really line up, or characters aren't labeled, etc.
This stuff is a lot of work and from reading her vid description it seems this wasn't originally meant to be a full youtube project, so it was nice she even made a summary like this. I think it's still the best quick summary there is out there right now because not only does she explain it chronologically but she explains the unknowns in each event even when those variables were not presented at the time the event occurred in the story which makes it a lot easier for casual fans to understand it in a straighter line.
TheCruzader Agreed, this is just common knowledge when documenting anything is to make sure both sights and sounds line up, but it's still a great video.
Holy shit... i did not EXPECT THAT AT ALL!!! Drakengard is the origin of Nier.. without Drakengard, there will be no tragicful event like Nier... This is a perfect example on the Butterfly Effect...
Lol I was wondering the same thing. Never knew anything about this series and was wondering how they made this leap from dragons and magic to robots and androids. I like stuff with convoluted stories like Kingdom Hearts and Metal Gear. This series blows those two out of the water.
Don't worry, it's about as easy as trying to explain how Final Fantasy X is a prequel to Final Fantasy 7. Try picking up a few of the games though (they're pretty cheap right now), but note, that all of Nier: Automata takes place like 1000s of years after Drakengard and the original Nier. So it has little to do character wise with any of the games, but lore and history wise, and maybe what some locations and things are I'm sure will be present (just a guess)
Hell is Yoko Taro even sane? I mean who comes up with this shit? It's great shit, of cause. But still it wrecks by brain down following a medival fantasy story, then skipping into a modern world where freaking nothing stay fixed....It sounds like Yoko Taro really hates humanity. First a flower, then s goddes, then a freaking complicated disease that eats your souls and no this is not the end, after all this ALIENS!!! WTF YOKO TARO
We are talking here about the guy who made several missions in the first Drakengard to be, and I'm serious here, kill thousands of conscripted child soldiers. All while your companions are calling on you for killing so many children. And enjoying it. And when a fucking dragon that HATES humanity thinks you are too bloodthirsty while killing humans... Up to this day, I'm still not sure if Yoko Taro is an insane genius, or just outright insane.
Tried listening to this in the background while i worked but it's not that kind of video lol Saving to Watch Later for when i get home! This is so intriguing.
Seriously. Japanese games usually have this complicated and really crazy stories that look like they were created by a 7years old kid. They have everything - robots, lasers, medieval themes, magic, hot chix, flamboyant characters, megazords, viruses, biblical or mythological references, multiverse, time travels, timesplitting etc. I don't understand why only Japanese create such things and rest of the world no.
BEST analysis of these games so far, hands down! Also, your voice is awesome. Veeeery calming, and your pronunciation in both English and Japanese is so good. Thank you for posting this!
To this day, Caim still remains to be my favorite silent protagonist... I feel sad just thinking about his character arc... but as a insane man by the name "TheDarkID" used to say... Drakengard! Anyway, this is a great video to introduce people to the Drakengard&Neir world. Your explanation/story recap is top notch plus your wonderful voice made this video even better.
I'm about 5 minutes in and this already feels like the deepest analysis I've seen without going into multiple parts. Nice. Oh, and to add an addendum (kind of my own fault), Drakengard 2 DOES continue off DG1 Ending A's events, but they pseudo-retconned it because Yoko Taro didn't write the game.
No, it's considered an entirely different timeline by the creators, like from year 1. Probably to distance themselves from the worst game in the series
I considered it as some sort of (untold) parallel universe because why not? There's multiple endings, so why not a separate universe for each ending as well?
I'm not sure if you still read comments here, but thank you again for sharing all the videos you had made. I'm glad you re-enabled your videos so we can return to them from time to time. I hope you enjoyed NieR Replicant 1.22...!
Thanks for doing this. I just bought Nier as my first yoko taro game and having a blast with it so far. Also, your voice is one of a kind, and even you have the perfect foreign pronunciation!
John Rodriguez he didn't say her pronunciation is good as an objective measure of pronunciation, he said it was a good foreign pronunciation. Also, by what metric are you saying this? Curious.
Your summary is amazing. But I found the video difficult to watch, the footage you show doesn't correlate with what your saying. Am I the only one who felt this way? Am I crazy?
ScrawnyMan I agree with this guy. your explanation is pretty good for the series. some video editing to reference what you are talking about would go a long way. think Nier is my favourite game series.
SephirothCetras the way the endings seem to work in NieR automata tho is that they’re just continuations of each other. With the exception of C and D, but those both result in the same outcome anyway, it’s just the order of deaths that change.
ScrawnyMan I noticed that pretty fast and focused on just listened to what she said. I enabled the subtitles (which seem to be taken directly from her script) and had no problems following her. I bet it would have taken too much time if she had used fitting scenes for every different plotpoint in a 27min video
I stopped watching the video just as she started explaining the events of Nier, I don't want to spoil it. Not like, knowing the story stopped my tears last night, when I played through the credits of ending E in Nier:Automata for the 3rd time.
Its just a port for this gen with side content to justify the price and celebrate the 10th anniversary. In short, its the Kingdom Hearts 1.5 Final Mix of NieR.
Nier story: Suddenly Giant monster battle. Then evil gods create diesease to wipe out humanity. Then Gesalt which turns humans into shades. Then Nier himself fights to save his daughter/sister and in the process dies then comes back to life thanks to Kaine and Emile. Then fucking aliens appear to conquer the planet. Geez, first multiuniverse bullcrap happens, then evil god armies appear, and now fucking aliens. Wow, earth went through so much shit without a moment of peace for bloody long time.
Welcome to the Drakengard/Nier where no one is allowed to be happy and if they do get a moment of happiness they are mere moments from getting it taken away and falling into madness, depression, death, extreme pain and suffering, or some combination of all the above. Where not even being a child guarantees you being safe from the madness that is the mind of Yoko Taro.
thats what happens when there are no themes in a story and just a bunch of random ideas thrown together. Calling it a story is a slap in the face of even the worst student in your freshman creative writing class. Maybe Ive read too much Asimov in my life, but this is not sci-fi, this is shit.
Dino Dead ik this comment is old but the order is Drakengard 1 then 3. i heard Drakengard 2 hast no relation to the story. after Drakengard 3 its the first Nier then Automata.
I found the first drakengard in a pawn shop years ago and thought the entire fandom was pretty much dead. I didn't think there would ever be a drakengard 3 or a second Nier. Now the fandom is exploding and there is actually story explanation videos for it that are serious. Ah this makes me happy. I hope that yoko taro has even more plans after automata.
I can already hear him thinking "so, how do I fuck with people's mind next?" But yeah, Nier:Automata is actually what got me into Drakengard, I'm now planning to get all the games (1 2 3 and NieR) and play all of this multiple times. Gee, and I thought after decades of "Final Fantasy" and "Tales of" I wouldn't be able to be passionate for a third rpg series. Yoko Taro proved e wrong, and i'm glad he did.
Just playing Nier for the first time now and I needed a summary of the story, wasn't aware of the Drakenguard series or how they tied in, it's amazing the different landscapes and stories this series has spanned, truly a treat for somone who has followed the series from it's inception. I wish I had the time to play them all but this video was great to watch to fill in the gaps of not playing the other games. Awesome video and you have an incredibly soothing voice!
Honestly, incredible job putting this all together. I knew just from NieR:Automata that the backstory would be convoluted, but this is an entire other world of nonsense in its own right to try and comprehend, well done.
watching this after finishing the nier automata anime made experience tons of new feelings,the anime actually did gave you a lil backstory from previous titles mentioned here in a real dramatic way
Great video, really enjoyed it. I had no idea the lore behind any of these games so I am definitely 11/10 confused right now. Really wanna play these games
So, Gods, Demons, Dragons, Humans, Salt, Replicants, Androids, Magical Books, and then Aliens attacked... Got it.
Sounds sane XD
Sound great right
And robots controlled by the Aliens, my brain hurts
And finally robots love and philosophy
dont forget about the flower
So it was all because Zero's mom was a bad mom :I
Yup!
Life lesson : Never trust a flower
honestly after the earthquake dragons and watchers started to appear, their world was doomed anyway
The worst case of the fucking butterfly effect.
@@Exath8630 We also learned that from Undertale
Everyone: Weird names
Dragon: named michael
Lol, it may be a biblical reference
@@Luffz like everything else in this series, i swear. The clones which have numbers on their foreheads, the dragons named after angels, people turning into salt, ect ect.
@@Fannintendociccio1 Yup, gotta love patterns.
@@Luffz amd more. Cain is from the bible, and I heard automata has has 2 guys called adam and eve, right?
@@Fannintendociccio1 Yup!
"in 5012, the planet is invaded by aliens"
that escalated quickly.
From the stuff that happened prior to that, I wouldn't say it really escalated at all lmao
You thought magical giant babies and dragons were bad HERES SOME F****** ALIENS
Kyle Eriksen and then fucking robot
how is 3000 years quickly?
Aliens : "Allow us to intoduce ourself"
"But then...... An Alien invasion happen!!!!"
wtf...
a theory that might explain that is the aliens might be the watchers from drakengard. notice that the machines they sent have red eyes.
KungFooMaen machines that might have been created by that kid in the junkyard from Nier
Well, considering it started with a sudden event that spit the timeline into two, bringing dragons, magic, salt viruses, separation of body and soul, gods, etc... aliens... why do aliens seem crazy? I blame hollywood and their alien movies!
Drakengard!
There really isn't anything more to say other the only people Taro Yoko hates more than children are the players of his games.
youthnando91 everything change when the fire nation attacked
i think childhood memories have been pushed out of my brain to make room for all this
THIS, is my childhood memories
Hanchock Elias same
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i watched this entire thing twice and never understood a single thing except that a dragon is called michael.
Pretty much, and to think this started with trying out Automata since it was on gamepass and wanting to learn more about the series.
Goddammit, I'm here for the same reason and still don't understand a thing, it's just so much :'(
@@dr.rhowsen yeah. I will try that. this is just to weird.
Same. The narrator just goes on and on instead of pacing herself. Lots of YT narrators make this mistake. Although it might just be a tactic to get people to actually play the game.
I second that.
Human: *exists*
Literally everything in the drakengard /nier universe: "I don't think so buddy"
@@deedeestarman.mypronounsar9858 Women and Men of Culture and wisdom: He's a genius. Let's associate and support all of his games.
@@deedeestarman.mypronounsar9858 get over yourself humans literally only exist to live, breed, and die. having a bit of lewd content isn't going to hurt anyone.
@@deedeestarman.mypronounsar9858 wOmEn aNd SaNe MeN: hE'S a MiSoGyNisT, lEt'S NoT AsSoCiaTe Or sUpPoRt HiS GaMes.
You sound like one of those crazy feminazis, AND other than seeing some lewd content I only see a genious, even though convolouted, story with some amazingly written characters, both male AND female, and both have very, very impactful actions on the story. And with this little explaination I've already negated that he's a mysogninist.
@@chrisheartman9263 i mean, the person DID put it's preferred pronouns in their name. presumably it's a troll, not a real person.
You guys fall for the most obvious trolls...
"what the fuck is going on" - hideo kojima on nier
lol and i thought mgs story was hard to understand
Kojima - "I can top this"
Introducing... Death Stranding
Moon Moon if there was one man who could completely understand the plot of these games just by playing them, it'd be Hideo Kojima.
2/10, not enough ass shots. - Kojima
I'd say its too much even for him
So. In short:
Girl from a brothel, with a flower instead of an eye kills her sisters and is killed by clone of her own clone/sister, that later gives the beginning to the bloodline, and one of his descendants eventually kicks Godlike being into OUR realm, which causes the disease that turns people into salt, so people come up with an idea of splitting souls from bodies, but it eventually fails. Also, there's this boy Emil, that dies, turns into a puppet, later creates thousands of robots to fight off the alien invaders.
WHAT. THE. ACTUAL. FUCK.
Slight correction: One's descendant becomes head of a cult. Caim is unrelated to One.
Same... so basically only thing that connects is Emil, since I am not sure if I am stupid, she didn't explained it, or there is no actual relative connection between games since Aliens simply showed up, wiped humanity, and end of story? did Emil travel in time? I didn't get that part.
From magic and demons, random 360 turn, and boom, to science, robots, androids and aliens, no magic, no demons.................only Emil.
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UPDATE: I simply read WIKIA about NieR franchise, and I understood it better when I read it there. Now I see what is going on.
"Shades are actually the souls of the original humans, who lived until around 2053 (2049 in NieR Gestalt). During Project Gestalt, these souls were separated from their bodies as a way to survive the incurable White Chlorination Syndrome, a deadly contagious disease, which threatened humanity with extinction at that time. These Gestalt forms were meant to be temporary until the threat would eventually disappear from the world by itself. Then the Shades would have been fused with their corresponding living shell, known as Replicants. However, due to a technological defect during the transformation process, the Replicants eventually developed a consciousness of their own and subconsciously rejected their fate as mere shells and as a result the Gestalts lost access to their bodies.
Due to the relapse phenomenon Shades could become hostile and aggressive monsters, which are encountered throughout the game. "
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And then there is this description about Nier (Gestalt Brother)
"In the end, it is revealed that the Shadowlord is actually the original Nier, who was the player character in the beginning of the game. In the year 2053, 50 years after the incident where the The Dragon and the The Giant appeared in Tokyo, Nier and Yonah (as real humans) were trapped in Shinjuku district when its lock down commenced. Nier sought help for Yonah's growing disease from a charity organization's center that supposedly handed out food and medicine for the survivors. Instead he, along with 12 other people, received a clone of the Grimoire Noir. The charity was actually a human experimentation site designed to find the "original Gestalt," who can keep his own consciousness even after going through the "Gestalt process." When Nier saw the fellow survivors turn into crazed, relapsed Gestalts, he escaped with Yonah and sought refuge in a supermarket. The relapsed Gestalts found them though and Nier was forced to turn to the black book so he could fight them off. Yonah presumably touched the grimoire to help Nier, but this caused her to start to relapse. During the 1,412 time skip between the prologue and the main game, Nier's soul was separated from his body as part of Project Gestalt and this bodiless shade is later named Shadowlord.
Just like the Replicant Nier (the character played as throughout most of the game), Shadowlord's ultimate goal is to not only save his sister, whose soul (or Shade) needs the body of Replicant Yonah, but save humanity (the Shades).
As the first sentient Gestalt, the organization behind Project Gestalt offered to put the Gestalt Yonah into hibernation until she could return to her Replicant body in return for Nier (now in his "Shadowlord" form) helping them create stabilized Gestalts. Because of this, all the sentient Shades are linked to Shadowlord and his death would cause them to relapse.
In the end, Gestalt Nier realized that the Gestalt Yonah's relapsing couldn't be stopped and he kidnapped the Replicant Yonah to return her to her body. This set to motion the Replicant Nier's quest for vengeance. "
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Like I mentioned about wiped humanity, basically it was meant that humanity was Shades actually, and not Replicants that were acting humans, and when Nier died as Shadowlord, since he was human and conscious Gestalt, unlike other Gestalts that were acting violently, everything was connected to him, and if he died, every Shade or more understandable - Human Souls, will die, humanity will be extinct, and it did went to extinction because Nier died.
NieR Automata is just...androids, and robots that seem to have human traits, like emotions and such, are remains of these Gestalts/Human Souls that somehow got uploaded into network, and all robots are connected to network.
Here:
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"It is revealed in NieR: Automata that as a result of Nier dying, the human race eventually went extinct, due to the Gestalts relapsing and the Replicants dying from either the Black Scrawl or natural causes. This event led to the creation of YoRHa, the operation that would perpetuate the lie that humanity was still alive and on the moon.
It is also stated that the machines psychological development was a result of the remnants of Project Gestalt's data being uploaded to the network, including the data of the original Gestalt: Nier. "
BIOSHOCKFOXX wow you explain everything nicely, i wonder why this comment so underrated, anyway thx mate
*Edit :
If u have even more further explanation regarding this, pls tag me, i have just started nier automata so i still clueless about this, anyway thx
BIOSHOCKFOXX Great summary. I understand a lot more about the first Nier game now.
But you (probably) spoiled the end of NieR: Automata for me, not know if it is the end since I haven't finished it yet. So could you please edit that last paragraph?
When I quoted stuff from net, I skipped or didn't simply added the ending, since I already finished the game, I learned some few more things about YoRHa, their meaning, and so on, something that I didn't wrote here, so nothing is spoiled regarding few more details that you can learn at the end, but in general I did spoiled the fact, that there are no humans actually, and it's just a play made up by higher up androids to make other android units think there are humans, just like for us in religion, the religious people need to believe that there is God to keep some order and faith between themselves, to have a reason to live, same thing Humans is to them, but there are no humans, and everyone is tricked, but I wont say anything anymore, since there are few more things you'll learn when you'll finish.
I will never complain about Kingdom Hearts being convoluted ever again...
Crystalisanguiem You and I both
well this is more complex but has a bit of unexplained plot holes. KH however is full proof for me how ever
Hashtag_Hailbird™ tbh I figured out the story through UA-cam and playing 2.5 in like a couple months in 6th grade
Crystalisanguiem Tbh, this makes understanding Kingdom Hearts as easy as understanding Pac Man
@@ShikiWantsA_Hug how many people are xeanort and how many of those people are also sora? and how many of those people have ven inside their hearts
This Yoko Taro guy, I don't know whether he is a god damn genius or so high when he created these games
Neko Paw both
Hes a genious who needs to pass the crack pipe.
Yes
He has stated that his most popular works are the ones he wrote when drunk.
funny that he was drunk crying when he made the ending actually 😂
Lore summary:
Giant city rise out of nowhere bringing watchers and dragon. Zero was a child prostitute who contracted an illness and as she dies from it, a flower brings her back to life and grants her intoner powers. Zero freaks out and commit suicide but the flower trying to protect itself splits off from her and creates the other five intoner. Zero sets off to kill all the other intoners but fail and then attempts it again and succeeds but gets killed by intoner One's clone. One' s clone goes off and creates the cult of the watchers and create the seal system to prevent the seed of destruction from falling down to the world, the seals are held together by a chosen goddess. Many years later an empire tries to break all the seals and capture the current goddess Furiae and bring forth the seeds. When the seal breaks the watcher descend on the Earth and Caim with his dragon fights the watcher queen to a parallel world (Tokyo, JP) and defeats her but then gets shot down by fighter jets. As they fall down to tokyo they spread particles they brought from their world over Tokyo. These particle causes chloronation syndrom. Shit happens and the people needs to separate their soul from their decaying body until they are ready to be place in a replicant body when the threat of the syndrome is gone (project gestalt). Android's are now develop to watch over the project to ensure it's success. Nier trying to save his daughter/sister (Yonah) from the syndrom becomes the shadowlord, the person whos genetics is used to keep the project going. Many years later the replicant bodies develope sentients and are no longer following the projects plan. Replicant Nier trying to save HIS Yonah goes on a journey and ends up killing the shadowlord and also ends up sacrificing himself to save Kaine thus destroying project gestalt and ending humanity. Many more years later only Android's are left and automata takes place.
I think that's how the lore went.
this actually helps understand the plotline, i ended up getting confused throughout all the explanation in the video so the summary is suuuuper appreciated :,)
I loved the video, but there was too much unneeded information. It creates an information overload and an inability to process everything. This summary made the video make sense.
This did better than the video
But in drakengard 3 ending branch D. When Mikhail went to seal off zero and her sister in other parallel world. Tokyo already fall apart. I wonder if Drakengard 3 really prequel games to Drakengard 1? Not to mention also Yoko Taro want to make Drakengard 4 if Nier Automata are success in sales.
Epsilon Ohh, no. I needed all the information.
So, as it turned out, Nier: Automata did link itself pretty directly to the first Nier and by extension to Drakengard. It's fairly subtle, but I like this ongoing story that Yoko Taro has continued to evolve.
Fucking maso isn´t easy to get rid off.
That's what so good about the games. So that the quality of the games are not wasted by the overly complicated timelines, they make connections to each game subtle so that the average gamer can enjoy one game on it's own
Adam S okk
Quick shoutout to everyone who's said such nice things and enjoyed this video. It really blew up way beyond my expectations and I am so happy that I've been able to help a lot of people out and make them more interested in the series. I'm not very good with words but I'd just like to give a quick thank you. So, you know, thanks 'n stuff! :)
Y-You too
ValkyrieAurora Your video is awesome. I play way to many games with confusing timelines and storylines. So, even as a big fan of this series, I tend to forget things from time to time. My mind can only contain so many things. This is very helpfull.
This video really helped me understand the entire backstory of Nier especially since I hardly knew a thing of the Drakengard stuff. Though I am still confused on one thing. Was there any information on where the humans in Nier Automata came from or who they are? I ask this because I read a translation of the Grimoire Nier and it said something about how humanity was doomed when the "Original Gestalt" was killed off because all Gestalts were then doomed to relapse and die out and Replicants couldn't naturally reproduce, needing Gestalts to regenerate. So how could there still be humans?
Subbed already, great vidya.
You sure as hell better not stop here! You've garnered a following now and the snowball is rolling. Keep it up, there are plenty of possibilities and I've a feeling you can manage to execute it well enough that it works in your favor.
Kudos.
EDIT:
Just realized Lana Rain is in full support of you which is good.
Don't stop here.
As Shia LaBeouf says, "JUST. DO. IT."
- "Replicant" is name of the shells made by true humans to put their soul in it.
- "Gestalt" is the name of seperated souls of true humans, known as shades in Nier.
- "Project Gestalt" is the name of the entire project which contains all processes including creating replicants, seperating souls from bodies and putting them into replicants.
I played both Nier games and still couldn't understand that very well. Thanks.
@@pedro4464 you are welcome, pal. It is not easy to understand bcuz the story is complicated.
Thank you for sharing this !!
@@RyuSei00555 yw, pal. Enjoy the story!
A question friend, Nier and Yonah were successful replicants right? Weren't they supposed to be created when the whole pandemic was over and the Legion was destroyed?
what I understood: nothing
what I've liked: everything.
I don't get where to start.....
I have no clue what exactly connected here... how is NieR Automata related to previous? some disease stopped and suddenly aliens showed up from nowhere and humanity already has androids? did Emil travel in time or what? wtf I was watching these 27 mins....???
TL;DR: There is a universe, with swords and shiet. At some point, a warrior, fighting an evil queen, gets transported to today's Japan (dimensional rift), bringing with them "demonic" particles, that are very hazardous.
Then the infected become an army and want to wipe the human race, but are defeated, but that doesn't stop the disease. At some point (2032), humanity decided to separate the body from the soul to avoid infection (and to put themselves to sleep until the disease dissapears or they find a cure), and uses replicants as body in case the actual body is lost from the process. But replicants start becoming sentinent.
Something something 2050 Nier sleepy mode 1000 year jump and it's 3288, gestalts wake up and find hostile replicants.
Year 4000: Gestalts cease to exist.
Year 5000 aliens invade the earth but sometimes they are peaceful sometimes hostile. They use robots as soldiers. The ones in Automata.
Year 5600: peace between species. Somewhere in here, machines wipe aliens.
5600-11944: THAT'S A LOT OF WARS.
11944: 14th alien war. Humanity, faced upon extintion, go to live in the moon and make robots.
11944+: Nier Automata
Start nowhere and anywhere. It doesn't matter
Player7(SPOILER WARNING)
i have a feeling you didnt explain it that well. i read other people explaining the lore a lot better. you didnt play all the games didnt you? with the last few lines i can tell you didnt play or finished Automata at all. Humans never went to the moon it was just a lie created by the Commander and the Androids that live on Earth. Humanity was already extinct by the time Alien invaded the Earth. the ones who created the YorHa type Androids were the Androids living on Earth that were created when Humans were still alive. the failure of the Gestalt project was due to the Android Models Popola and Devola which caused the Humans to be extinct. you shouldnt try to explain a lore if you dont know what your talking about
Ernesto Gastelum Maybe player7 was trying to avoid spoilers for those who have yet to play through Automata.
Fanbase: “Kingdom Hearts has a crazy redonculous plot.”
Yoko Taro: “Hold my beer...”
To be fair, Yoko Taro's story actually goes through several alternative dimensions and 10 thousand of years, with several different protagonists and antagonists with very different goals.
KH is Xehanort being Aizen somehow and wanting the KH. Everything that happens there, can be resumed to "All according to Xehanort's Keikaku". That it manages to be almost as confusing than Drakengard/Nier is an achievement on its own, as technically all happens in a few years.
Kingdom Hearts' story is overrated. I loved the game for its adventurous and nostalgic setting and atmosphere.
Kh is a world where death is meaningless and everything can be solve with friendship
i still can't believe the human race went extinct partly because of nier, that's just depressing
@@lenlimbo That's true, at least games in the MGS and Drakengard/Nier series, as convoluted as they are when strung together, try to tackle different ideas with each iteration. KH games are all worse retellings of KH1's coming-of-age story.
I still concede that nier/drakengard has better writing
Basically, your point is... that Nier/Drakengard universe is not a place to live in.
This is absolutely the point I was trying to drive home, good job.
Your japanese pronounciation is pretty good, did you learn japanese or is it just from watching a lot of anime etc?
Thanks! I've actually taken classes. I'm not huge on anime, sorry.
ValkyrieAurora solaire pic... basically anime :3
no
"Evangelion's plot is super complicated."
Yoko Taro: "Hold my Emil's head."
nah lol, evangelion is just a mess
@@x-49nightraven to be fair, Evangelion wasn't too bad until like the final what? 2-3 eps? Everything up until then was follow-able, at least.
Meanwhile yoko taro admits to not thinking through his stories and just makes shit up as he goes along
Emil is the backbone of nier
@@alissaswan5060 no I wouldn't say that. The entirety of automata is damn perfect even without so much as interacting with emil. The fact that you can however, does add to the perfection for bonus points. As for replicant, I think kaine is more important to replicants story than emil. She's both more entertaining to listen to, has more character development, and has more relatable issues, and is also in love with the protagonist. Kaine is also the reason we get ending E. Emil is awesome and a really important Character...but the backbone of the franchise?.....I'd say the backbone is either yoko taros writing or MONACA's talented composers.
I came from playing NieR:Automata to understand the lore and 15 minutes in I am 5x as confused as before and I don't see anything of the story I know, wtf.
I'm still glad I saw Nier:Automata on steam queue
I just beat nier automata as well and wanted to see how the stories connect. I am kind of lost but I think it's cool how all the game essentially tell the story of Earth through different stages of it's existence
Christian Weber same here
Same here bud
So, you're telling me that the Drakengard games take place in an alternate timeline that diverges in the 800s, which ends up resulting in a medieval and/or steampunk magical fantasy world that those games take place in, and one of them has a throwaway ending where a cataclysmic event crosses over into modern day Japan, which results in a _different_ alternate timeline diverging in the 2000s that the Nier games take place in, which devolves back into medieval fantasy before bouncing back into aliens and robots? Holy hell.
👏👏👏👏👏👏 you're getting there!
The devolution of civilization in the Nier Earth was intentional as it's the part of the Project Gestalt meant to limit Replicant's consciousness levels.
Sounds pretty normal to me lol
The fuck?? I’m about to start playing Nier after RE Village and I didn’t understand this comment lol. If this comment summarized the video, I’m not sure I’ll understand it either.
Well then I'm going to set up a new study at my university called "Plotology" in which students have to study the entire plotline of these games. The end exam consists of having to write down the entire plotline. It will be the most evil study ever.
Based God Zyzz I'll enroll
I’m down for that.
I'll get a honor roll, 20$ for that bet.
it's called Philology and Literature.
Spown no this is a different kind of evil doesn’t fit within philology
I am glad that this videos became accessble again and hope the creator is doing well
She streams on twitch
@@sylarpeterclair Twitch id?
@@ll-me4wz nerines00
she went on to become a vtuber
@@Kratos5509 wtf that was so unexpected didn't saw it coming. The vtuubers name?
Same here I'm just binge watching her entire channel and liking the everliving crap out of each and every video she made.
So a Flower is the responsible for all of the shit that happend in the story?
The lesson of the story: Don't trust flowers, you idiots.
Yeah, Flowey has caused a bunch of problems all over.
One flower caused shit to go down from the year 800 to the year 11 thousand something something.
Cue "Inanimate Dream."
MissJokerAllTooMuch Really
It's really interesting that's the case due to the significance of Lunar Tears in Nier.
And people say dark souls story is hard to follow
lol and i was happy that i understood mgs story
Dark Soul is not hard to follow.
try kingdom hearts mate :(
sora roxas this is kingdom hearts on meth, ket, and crack cocaine
welllll, dark souls is hard to follow but not that hard to undrstand.
"Did I beat the Yoko Taro games?"
"Or did the Yoko Taro games beat me?"
He screams, for he doesn't know!
After reading what you'd need to do to get the final trophy for Nier Gestalt (since I didn't have the willpower to do it all), I'd say Yoko Taro bends us over his knee and goes to town on our poor ignorant asses with a giant sword.
Maybe the REAL Nier: Automata was the friends we made along the way...
Yoko Taro loves messing to our minds
He forces us to face our existisanial dreads and fears as he faces them
Plot twist, Yoko Taro doesn't even know.
Holy sh*t, how do you manage to go from a medival fantasy type seting to a post apocalypt world where androids fight against aliens.
Im gonna rewatch these video over and over so I can understand this plot.
Same
Ikr?? It's crazy!
Crazy good!
Or better yet, crazy awesome!
It takes a very, very long time. Honestly funny to me that people can't fathom a sequel taking place far in the future.
@@Miriam_J_ but how
I mean, that particular premise isn't unique, there's Warhammer...
How the hell Yoko Taro expected us to realize all that crap? This makes look Evangelion like Sesame Street
not even bro quit your day dreamsplease.
Playing through Metal Gear or Kingdom Hearts games like this are still hard to get but it come together when you pay attention and play through everything
they're both japanese,theyre both depressing,they're both awesome!
I just imagined a giant mecha elmo what have you done
That is a reward for players who go after lore details and stuff outside the game. You'll not believe on how much crap i had to learn about his universe to then replay Automata and get the full experience lol
holy cow, from medieval fantasy gods to sci-fi alien gods, this is a mad level of fictional lore.
I heard a rumor that in the next game, NieR: Symbiothesis, androids, robots, humans, animals, dragons, flowers, and replicants are united in a gigantic machine called an Orgasmatron, to create a new species of Ubermenschen, in the year 58,756. The only clothing left on Earth will be the sexiest of unisex lingerie, Weiss's Secret. The game will be a dating simulator, with a fishing mini-game.
Brilliant.
The hell did i just read
You know, knowing the creator, its posible 😂😂
Don't forget about the in between game, Nier: Warframe
I spit out my tea reading the word “Orgasmatron”
publisher: "So what is this universe about?"
Yoko Taro: "Yes"
publisher: "no, i mean the theme? setting?"
Yoko Taro: "YES"
publisher: "... g-genre?"
Yoko Taro: "YEEEEEESSSSS"
And i started crying with laughter
Me: Daddy Yoko Taro, no!
Yoko Taro: Daddy Yoko Taro, YEEEEEES
Humanity: _" Am... can I exist in this universe? "_
Nier/Draken-Universe: >cracks it's knuckles
So what you're telling me is watching a god die caused the world's population to become so salty that humanity went extinct
the watchers are not gods, they are servants of THE god. And the cult of the watchers are servants of the watchers themselves, or rather a cult that worship them
the giant that died is actually a god from the drakengard timeline. so he is right actually. totally underrated comment, made me laugh so hard.
the queen beast is not a god it is a servant of god. Kami in Drag on Dragoon is a literal monolithic entity similar to the concept of god in real life. The localization implied plurality to make it less of a comparison with Christianity
yea sorry got that wrong.
The Joke
Your head.
I played the first Drakegard when I was young, my question is, how the hell does this go from dragons, magic, knights, some guy named Cain ( I think), monsters to robots, a ruined earth, and big booty android ladies?
Lookup Clemp's videos on the Drakenguard/NieR lore to get a more indepth understanding.
It's really fuckin' interesting.
+Matthew Bond It's simple: Multiple Timelines, a Chasm in Time and Space, and a disease originated from going to one (NieR) from another (Drakengard), that's what leads to NieR: Automata.
japanese storybuilding
Something about man eating babies raining from the sky.
From what I understand:
- first universe/world = Magic/Knights and a lot of pacts with people. Basically, it's Gods vs Dragons. Events happen, Caim and his dragon follow a portal through to "our world", and Caim destroys a huge giant being that dissolves into the infectious particles that cause "white chlorination syndrome".
Which leads to the creation of the Gestalt project (eg, trying to survive the disease). This leads to the absolute destruction of humanity, and aliens find our planet and try to colonize. This leads to Emil cloning himself with magic and fighting back, which leads the aliens to create the living machines AND continues the fight with the "machine wars". The fights lead to the robots themselves gaining sentience and then leads to more trouble...
This is like trying to understand Calculus when you're a 1st grader with a 27 min window
Trust me buddy, calculus is a lot easier.
Just imagine trying to explain the video game from your profile picture.
Rem It’s more like trying to explain literal rocket science to Forest Gump.
I like how the sequels are more about people in the future dealing with the consequences of the things past protagonists did, even if they don't even have how to know they existed.
A Dragon. And His Name Is... Michael
It has biblical significance, I think.
It´s more complicated, all angelical sounding things are usually demon stuff instead in the universe. He and Angelus are the exceptions.
Mihkahl
hahaha could been worst with a name like john mccain or something like that
Seeing as the angel Michael kills a serpent its a bit strange though fitting
Holy crap! The Metal Gear Story line is like Dr. Seuss compared to this!
Agreed!
This is dr seuss compared to Evangelions story
but metal gear story line was pretty straightforward though since it uses real life events
1 Snake, 2 Snake, Solid Snake, Liquid Snake- Written By Dr. Kojima
Memento Mori No, if anything is on par to Evangelions, seeing as this is more developed than Eva's backstory
"Humanity got fucked" The story.
Humanity got salty
"...in multiple universes."
XDark EliteXZ Get yoko'd
XDark EliteXZ To be fair...so did the androids.
BarKnock They got ****ed.
So if I’m getting this right.
Drakengard 3 > Drakengard > Nier > Nier: Automata
And Drakengard 2 kinda sits between Drakengard and Nier though not really counting.
Yessss, but also a lot of people (including me) think that the timeline will eventually loop because of end content in Nier Automata and the fact that the Cathedral city, which looks like a modern city, appeared out of nowhere in Midgard, just like the Queen Beast appeared randomly in Tokyo. It seems like a city will eventually be transported through time and space and sent "back" to ancient Europe, creating the Midgard timeline, which leads to the Drakengard --> Nier --> Automata timeline, only to loop again.
@@APurpleFable man you make me even more confused
Trần Đăng Khoa so I should watch drakengaurd 3 -> drakengaurd 1 -> nier -> automata in the order just like your list says?
@@APurpleFable fuck you, don't even think about doing that to my brain by adding time travel.
Fable so the timeline is Nier: Automata > drakengard 3 > drakengard > Nier?
And people say Kingdom Hearts is confusing.
That shit is nothing compared to Drakengard/NieR.
Holy shit,that's what I was thinking. Kingdom hearts is linear and straight forward compared to this.
This is going to sound harsh, but at least Drakengard is original about it's convoluted nonsense.
KH is just long. Not hard to piece together... But DrakenNier is just a F all splattered on a wall and for you to piece it.
DrakeDarkHunter tbh as a kh fan I kinda agree with you now that they're going into the reincarnation type Shit
Chaotic Heretic ya kh isn't that confusing to be honest if ppl played the side games (reason if was confusing. If ppl didn't own the psp to play birth by sleep or ds for recode and Roxas story, gba for chain of memories (later remade on ps2) and 3ds for Dream drop distance then ya I can see why some fans would get confused. Plus the kh 1 and 2 we got back then wasn't the full version since Japan had the scenes like in kh 2 for Terra's armor before appearing in birth by sleep.
Now it isn't really a problem since ps3 (soon PS4 release) have the 1.5 and 2.5 with the full versions and side games in one system and 2.8 on PS4 with DDD and 2 new stories.
1.this is TOO confusing
2. You deserve more sub
3. I love your voice
1. I agree, it's very confusing. 2. That is very very sweet! 3. Thank you! :)
ValkyrieAurora You need more subscribers!!!!!!
Thank you! Haha
Nier's ending E continues off on ending D, it's not really a different ''ending'' as Nier only has four endings in-game. Ending E is essentially just a nickname for the events that took place during The Lost Novella, which continues on from ending D.
Also, you're free to go watch any other video you want to if you feel like they're better. I'm sure there are more well-produced videos out there; go watch them instead then. I'm just a university student, can't afford the best mic and editing programs really, I just made do with what I had but cool of you to be a dick about it.
Kingdom Hearts, Metal Gear, Evangelion, and YOKO TARO...
The Japanese sure likes complicated stories, huh?
Honestly if you pay attention its not confusing.
taaj howell For KH, MGS, & probably Evangelion, maybe. But Yoko Taro is on some Nietzsche-esque philosophical drugs.
well complicated stories are more realistic in a way because real life is complicated
@@crayon6711 honestly look at the world wars and how they started and how they led to other wars in the future
Tim burton doesn't have nearly as much continuity to compete. Frankenweenie>Corpse Bride>The Nightmare Before Christmas
Yoko Taro: *Massive Connecting Plotline*
Drakengard 2: *exists*
Yoko Taro: "I'm going to pretend I didn't see that"
Holy crap, good job on connecting all the dots. I'm surprised Yoko Taro has been able to connect this many vaguely related stories together while keeping them good stand alone games at the same time. Mind = blown.
U understand?
I'm sorry but "able to connect" is not the expression you are looking for, they are not connected, and only share names and... Art style? Even the drakengard games aren't connected between them. Saying that they're somehow on the same universe is the biggest stretch.
gaston archilli what? This video shows exactly how the games’ stories are connected. The events of Drakengard lead to the setting in Nier and the events of Nier lead to the setting of Automata
It's like trying to explain Evangelion in a different language.
Dead-Rabbit Tenvia hahaha hahaha! exactly this! you win the Internet lol
nonono its actauly EASY to explain eve if you start from the start. All you need is like a 3 min text prolog for eve and its easy as fuck to understand. The multi time line bullshit of nier i hate cas its the artist trying to tell multiple storeys with the same characters. and technically all of them happen. The whole multi world bullshit just turns into a cluster fuck over time if they dont know how to make a plot converge.
evangelion is pretty straight forward though.
angels wanna meet with adam the first angel to create third impact. Humanity survived first and second impact (both of which are failed attempts from angels to fuse with adam) but they know they won't survive the third. So by causing a human to fuse with adam (the angel eve split up into a race called humanity), they can cause third impact and safely preserve humanity via using third impact as a reincarnation of humanity.
See? not that hard. Only thing that doesn't make a lick of sense is why it had to be the lil shit shinji (though I guess a person raised with knowledge of human self loathing would have a better vision of an idealized humanity-except the lil shit flakes out and just has everyone reborn flawed as before)
Arturo Sanchez yah.....its really not. the entire series doesn't make sense
Arturo Sanchez Ok see. I understood that because I've seen the series. Trying to explain that shit to outsider like how I was to Drakengard and Nier is fucking difficult.
Also, context for future viewers:
*This video only traces the connected literature from Drakengard 3, 1, and 2 up to and including the Nier spinoffs. Valkyrie does NOT explain each and every ending of each and every game, because that would take an absurd amount of time to explain. We have the wikis for that, anyway.*
_Please be advised that prior knowledge of relevant endings of Drakengard and Nier is prerequisite to understanding a video about Yoko Taro-related games._
Well, that escalated...
Not quickly, just, escalated.
More like it went as a rocket in the sky
sooo... it basically goes from fighting dragons and gods, to a deadly pandemic bent on creating a slave army to conquer the world, to an alien invasion, then a machine vs. android war?
jesus this timeline is a mess
Well it’s not supposed to be one continuous story. It’s a collection of stories that take place in the same universe. Think marvel comics. Or Zelda.
Jordon Henderson These timelines*
Here is the real question...why is 9s seemingly the only male android on the bunker. 1,000some confirmed.....if any of them have sexual organs.
googlefish80
The S series is apparently filled with male androids. You surely missed 4S...
What’s next, this is all linked to bayonetta???
Probably.
*indeed*
to dmc.
to Mass Effect :v
the alien sending a new wave of attacks... :v
In the World of chaos
Two clans were given the power to overseer the three worlds of realities
Makes Sense
Wonder what Sophie thought of Replicant's remake.... Alas, no way to know with her channel dead.
Oooh, the videos are back, I can listen to that golden voice again. Hope Valkyrie comes back stronger than ever.
All i know is nier automata is the best game ive played on ps4 so far
Bloodborne?
@@TiyZzi bloodborne doesnt' really have the deepest message compared to nier. Its a more expansive game in terms of sheer content but nier is huge in the message and the way it conveys it through its music and dialogue and style and storytelling. From a critical standpoint, nier by far beats bloodborne as a work of art
Meh God of war is wayyy better imo
TiyZzi opinions ffs...
@@jessepopov6413 I couldn't disagree with you more, but that's the fun part about opinions: we're both right here
What I love most about Yoko Taro's Drakengard/Nier series is that there is such a massively in-depth convoluted history to his worlds, but he doesn't care nor does e particularly want you to put it all together. What Taro want you to focus on is the things that happen in the games, not why it's all happening. The fact that there is all this confusing backstory just reinforces the sense of helplessness and feelings of a much larger uncaring world these characters find themselves in.
Wow you've actually perfectly hit the nail on the head there. That's exactly it.
Why is that something to love about it? It just proves that Taro doesn't respect anyone who plays his games. He's an arrogant sadist who thinks he's way smarter than he actually is.
My head hurts
I came expecting answers
I left having questions
amazing video tho
You should make an updated version of this!
Soooooo humans figured out how to separate souls from their bodies but not a way to leave the Earth to other planets.........
I dig it.
This was only possible thanks to maso, the element discovered thanks to the Dragon's corpse (Angelus). I don't think maso would be useful to build a spaceship xD
Kerwin C I don't really think that just because this maso or whatever is in the dragon,the dragon flies because of it. Note that I never played any of these games and I totally accidentally stumbled upon this video.
Kerwin C Yeah, that is the problem of creating complex story lines;there can always be plot holes.
Nier Gestalt :v they were trying to make vessels for humans and there was a mistake. or a sudden reaction.
Well, they already made android during project gestalt
My only problem is when you show all these clips i keep thinking you are talking about the scene only later to find out that the scenes you were using dont match up with what you are talking about. Seems like there was a double meaning to the scenes that you focused on so i am getting all kinds of confused.
some themes are from the Novels. What should she do? Show the pages?
@@GandhiTheGodOfWar I just say Copyright
That was my problem too. The story she is telling is already complicated as hell, I'm trying to pay attention close as fuck and the visuals are telling their own story and I'm trying to remember what ps2 graphics looked like.
@@BlueBerrySherry Showing the title covers of said novels would have helped honestly...
@@Ray_V not really. I have seen....
7 minutes in aaaaaaaaand you lost me...
Props for the making this video though, it was insightful... confusing as all hell, but I learned that Kingdom Hearts isn't the only convoluted tale out there.
Aliens showing up: Haha you guys are toast!!!
Humans:
Aliens: Dafuq happened?? Whats with the robots?
*before watching video
Me: "All right, now I can finally make sense of this convoluted franchise once and for all!"
*after watching this video
Me: "I think I'm even more confused about this franchise now"
My thoughts: WTF IS GOING ON, something about child prostitution, killing a god, humans going extinct, project gestalt, androids, and some other shit?
Red Smurf also don’t forget dragons and knights and shit. We can’t forget them.
googlefish80 don't forget about aliens, talking books, and sentient sexy badass overpowered androids
you forgot about the flower
Deppu and all the white haired babes
Yoko Taro man. Yoko Taro.
(Actually if you play the games and pay attention you will understand most of the story and with books you can understand the full story.)
You sound like you got a doctorate in Drakengard/Nier. I just finished playing through all of Nier Automata so glad to have the background minor knowledge gaps filled in. Though having the right game footage up from each game you're talking about at each point would have helped match your words to the game being discussed. But my brain was able to keep up nonetheless, appreciate the work you put in for this.
I'm glad this video is back. It's probably the best resource ever created when it comes to NieR lore.
Nojima: "I'm gonna make the most complicated JRPG plot of all time."
Yoko: "Hold my big-bootied android girl."
Gladly.... *insert lenny face*
@@pexrox2248 insert to where?
@@hbcdhapamzmdfnsdiufnsduifhsopa you know…..
So in case I get hit by a bus tomorrow, here's my testament.
There was once a boy named Alex, and he was in love with NieR: Automata so much, he watched this one video at least thrice, start to finish. And he was intending on watching it, start to finish, at least three times more.
Thank you, Aurora.
And thank you, Yoko.
What really bothers me is, haven't you been hit by a bus the day after you wrote it? I'm kinda worried, товарищ.
Cyka
After finishing Nier I thought this would give me more insight into the world and the Gestalt project and get some background for Automata, yet now I'm SO much more confused
Good to see this video back
Here I thought Kingdom Hearts was convoluted...
Kingdom Hearts actually makes sense:
Xehanort wanted to forge the x-blade to unlock KH. He pit Ven and Vanitas, equal forces of light and dark against each other and forged the blade. He then possessed Terra, who served as the new vessel for the old man. Ven killed Vanitas and destroyed the x-blade while Terra fell to the realm of dark in an attempt to stop Xehanort. Aqua saved him but fell to the realm herself. Ven fell into coma in the Oblivion Castle while Terranort experimented with the heart and got consumed by the darkness in it, splitting into a heartless and nobody.
His heartless tried to open his own KH by gathering the hearts of Disney princesses. Sora, who turned into a heartless at some point, became human again but created a nobody named Roxas. Sora stopped this heartless from opening KH
Meanwhile the Xehanort's nobody started an organzation including the Roxas guy and used his keyblade to slay heartless and use the hearts to create his own KH. The nobodies in the group were defeated by Sora and he stopped the nobody Xehanort from gaining the power of KH. Roxas and Sora combined and so does Kairi and Namine (who was created when Kairi's heart left her body to reside inside Sora's).
The destruction of the two revived Xehanort, who planned to gather his different incarnations and the surviving organization members and his younger self to form a new organization of darkness that would fight Sora and the guardians of light, an equal force to counter Xehanort's darkness , to reforge the X- blade
Not to hard compared to Drakengard, don't you think?
You say that, but I'm reading this and just being like "Uh... what? I don't wanna be eaten by a Xenomorph!" Then again, I suppose it is like 6:30 and I can only say that I think a slept a little... at some point.
but what about the foretellers? and the black box?
There was the Book of Prophecy which states that the World of Kingdom Hearts would be doomed in the future so the five foretellers worked together to stop KH from being consumed in darkness. The Sixth foreteller however planned to set the events that will lead to the prophecy. He spread the rumor that there was a traitor among the foretellers so they began accusing each other and inevitably started the Keyblade War with their factions, over the X-blade. Xehanort wanted to wage another war and gain the power of the X-blade. No one knows what's inside the black box as of now (but there's a large chance it will be cleared in the upcoming KH3) but it is theorized that the Book is inside the box
Jinx Luna haha thanks :D i hope kh3 comes this year
*Gets A Headache*
I find this information useful because I didn't even played any of the previous games, however, you could use some visual aids of who are you talking and what is happening because sometimes I've got confused between the video and what you were telling. Anyway, nice video, I am really hyped about NIER automata, thanks for sharing this info!!! :D
Not all of it has relevant videos/images, that's why.
True enough, but even a text overlay of some sort could help keep some concepts, names, places, timelines, or events clearer. As a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge fan of Drakengard/Nier, and having read Grimoire Nier and the various novellas a couple times, it's nice to have text or visual aids for this sort of thing.
To a person who comes in to the series absolutely blind wanting to get "caught up" for Automata, the visuals in this video just serve to complicate matters when they don't really line up, or characters aren't labeled, etc.
This stuff is a lot of work and from reading her vid description it seems this wasn't originally meant to be a full youtube project, so it was nice she even made a summary like this. I think it's still the best quick summary there is out there right now because not only does she explain it chronologically but she explains the unknowns in each event even when those variables were not presented at the time the event occurred in the story which makes it a lot easier for casual fans to understand it in a straighter line.
maybe something like a family tree/relationship tree?
TheCruzader Agreed, this is just common knowledge when documenting anything is to make sure both sights and sounds line up, but it's still a great video.
Holy shit... i did not EXPECT THAT AT ALL!!! Drakengard is the origin of Nier.. without Drakengard, there will be no tragicful event like Nier... This is a perfect example on the Butterfly Effect...
*halfway through the video* Me: So how the hell does it progress to fighting off machines in a post robot apocalyptic world?
*an alien invasion*
shit
Lol I was wondering the same thing. Never knew anything about this series and was wondering how they made this leap from dragons and magic to robots and androids. I like stuff with convoluted stories like Kingdom Hearts and Metal Gear. This series blows those two out of the water.
goes past 11000 years pretty quickly
Don't worry, it's about as easy as trying to explain how Final Fantasy X is a prequel to Final Fantasy 7. Try picking up a few of the games though (they're pretty cheap right now), but note, that all of Nier: Automata takes place like 1000s of years after Drakengard and the original Nier. So it has little to do character wise with any of the games, but lore and history wise, and maybe what some locations and things are I'm sure will be present (just a guess)
Hell is Yoko Taro even sane? I mean who comes up with this shit? It's great shit, of cause. But still it wrecks by brain down following a medival fantasy story, then skipping into a modern world where freaking nothing stay fixed....It sounds like Yoko Taro really hates humanity. First a flower, then s goddes, then a freaking complicated disease that eats your souls and no this is not the end, after all this ALIENS!!! WTF YOKO TARO
kikox x ANIMEI AND MEAT
We are talking here about the guy who made several missions in the first Drakengard to be, and I'm serious here, kill thousands of conscripted child soldiers. All while your companions are calling on you for killing so many children. And enjoying it. And when a fucking dragon that HATES humanity thinks you are too bloodthirsty while killing humans...
Up to this day, I'm still not sure if Yoko Taro is an insane genius, or just outright insane.
He is like... completly mad at sometimes.... i can compare him to sephiroth xd...
Sure, but at least it's not as depressing as Metal Gear Solid 4.
Tried listening to this in the background while i worked but it's not that kind of video lol
Saving to Watch Later for when i get home! This is so intriguing.
So did you ever watch it later?
Seriously. Japanese games usually have this complicated and really crazy stories that look like they were created by a 7years old kid. They have everything - robots, lasers, medieval themes, magic, hot chix, flamboyant characters, megazords, viruses, biblical or mythological references, multiverse, time travels, timesplitting etc.
I don't understand why only Japanese create such things and rest of the world no.
BEST analysis of these games so far, hands down! Also, your voice is awesome. Veeeery calming, and your pronunciation in both English and Japanese is so good. Thank you for posting this!
...and you will know us by the Trail of Dead isn't that a band?
To this day, Caim still remains to be my favorite silent protagonist... I feel sad just thinking about his character arc... but as a insane man by the name "TheDarkID" used to say... Drakengard! Anyway, this is a great video to introduce people to the Drakengard&Neir world. Your explanation/story recap is top notch plus your wonderful voice made this video even better.
MisoSoup247 "I am Caim!" tho
I'm about 5 minutes in and this already feels like the deepest analysis I've seen without going into multiple parts. Nice.
Oh, and to add an addendum (kind of my own fault), Drakengard 2 DOES continue off DG1 Ending A's events, but they pseudo-retconned it because Yoko Taro didn't write the game.
No, it's considered an entirely different timeline by the creators, like from year 1. Probably to distance themselves from the worst game in the series
I considered it as some sort of (untold) parallel universe because why not? There's multiple endings, so why not a separate universe for each ending as well?
Yeah, that's kinda what I mean. It DOES continue off Ending A, but it's in its own "alternate universe" to keep it away from the true canon.
I'm not sure if you still read comments here, but thank you again for sharing all the videos you had made. I'm glad you re-enabled your videos so we can return to them from time to time. I hope you enjoyed NieR Replicant 1.22...!
Nier: Automata is my first Yoko Taro game only because of 2B's ass.
Understandable
@@nagibmahfuz1619 definitely understandable
@Nathan Mak truly
69th like lol
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Thanks for doing this. I just bought Nier as my first yoko taro game and having a blast with it so far.
Also, your voice is one of a kind, and even you have the perfect foreign pronunciation!
Dwan-Shade, I agree with you. She really have a lovely voice.
Christ...
Dawn-Shade lmao fuck no her pronounciation is pretty damn bad
John Rodriguez he didn't say her pronunciation is good as an objective measure of pronunciation, he said it was a good foreign pronunciation. Also, by what metric are you saying this? Curious.
Her voice is sexy lool sorry, I had to.
Your summary is amazing. But I found the video difficult to watch, the footage you show doesn't correlate with what your saying. Am I the only one who felt this way? Am I crazy?
ScrawnyMan nah i agree. still images would've sufficed as long as it was relevant to what she was saying
ScrawnyMan I agree with this guy. your explanation is pretty good for the series. some video editing to reference what you are talking about would go a long way. think Nier is my favourite game series.
I felt that way too.
SephirothCetras the way the endings seem to work in NieR automata tho is that they’re just continuations of each other. With the exception of C and D, but those both result in the same outcome anyway, it’s just the order of deaths that change.
ScrawnyMan I noticed that pretty fast and focused on just listened to what she said. I enabled the subtitles (which seem to be taken directly from her script) and had no problems following her. I bet it would have taken too much time if she had used fitting scenes for every different plotpoint in a 27min video
Who is here after the Replica remaster announcement?
I stopped watching the video just as she started explaining the events of Nier, I don't want to spoil it. Not like, knowing the story stopped my tears last night, when I played through the credits of ending E in Nier:Automata for the 3rd time.
Its just a port for this gen with side content to justify the price and celebrate the 10th anniversary. In short, its the Kingdom Hearts 1.5 Final Mix of NieR.
@@OnigoroshiZero I watched this entire video twice and even I don't know the plot of Nier
Nier story: Suddenly Giant monster battle. Then evil gods create diesease to wipe out humanity. Then Gesalt which turns humans into shades. Then Nier himself fights to save his daughter/sister and in the process dies then comes back to life thanks to Kaine and Emile. Then fucking aliens appear to conquer the planet. Geez, first multiuniverse bullcrap happens, then evil god armies appear, and now fucking aliens. Wow, earth went through so much shit without a moment of peace for bloody long time.
Welcome to the Drakengard/Nier where no one is allowed to be happy and if they do get a moment of happiness they are mere moments from getting it taken away and falling into madness, depression, death, extreme pain and suffering, or some combination of all the above. Where not even being a child guarantees you being safe from the madness that is the mind of Yoko Taro.
you're right, especially to what happens to Emil.
Draco Magnius it's always going to be a little boy isn't it
Not always Manah had it pretty rough.
thats what happens when there are no themes in a story and just a bunch of random ideas thrown together. Calling it a story is a slap in the face of even the worst student in your freshman creative writing class. Maybe Ive read too much Asimov in my life, but this is not sci-fi, this is shit.
So the REAL ORDER IS: Drakengard 3 -> 1 -> either 2 or NiER (depends on ending) -> NiER Automata
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That order is like I am watching Star Wars XD
Dino Dead more like Zelda. At least Star Wars fits on one timeline
Dino Dead
ik this comment is old but the order is Drakengard 1 then 3. i heard Drakengard 2 hast no relation to the story. after Drakengard 3 its the first Nier then Automata.
Ernesto Gastelum You need to watch the video again, Drakengard 3 clearly comes first.
Jeremy Gott
the video may be wrong as well since i read several people that say Drakengard 1 is first then 3 on different videos
Dino Dead yep this is beyond hideo kojima mind fuck at this point
What?
Hooston? Never figured I’d find you in a comment section, especially this one.
Something happened
what?
Idk about others but I genuinely loved your videos back then, I keep rewatching them from time to time
man i remember when I was a little kid playing drakengard 1
I'm sorry for the trauma you endured.
Chaotic Heretic lmao the story is to dame dark and the final boss fight was hell.
Chaotic Heretic
But it was so good that it was worth it!!
Sairyo Feana True
I remember when I couldn't be arsed to finish it it sucked so much....
I found the first drakengard in a pawn shop years ago and thought the entire fandom was pretty much dead. I didn't think there would ever be a drakengard 3 or a second Nier. Now the fandom is exploding and there is actually story explanation videos for it that are serious. Ah this makes me happy. I hope that yoko taro has even more plans after automata.
I can already hear him thinking "so, how do I fuck with people's mind next?"
But yeah, Nier:Automata is actually what got me into Drakengard, I'm now planning to get all the games (1 2 3 and NieR) and play all of this multiple times.
Gee, and I thought after decades of "Final Fantasy" and "Tales of" I wouldn't be able to be passionate for a third rpg series. Yoko Taro proved e wrong, and i'm glad he did.
2 isn't part of Yoko Taro's timeline, so you can skip it.
Do you know if Drakengard 1,2,3 and Nier are available for pc?
I would really like to play these games also
Just playing Nier for the first time now and I needed a summary of the story, wasn't aware of the Drakenguard series or how they tied in, it's amazing the different landscapes and stories this series has spanned, truly a treat for somone who has followed the series from it's inception. I wish I had the time to play them all but this video was great to watch to fill in the gaps of not playing the other games. Awesome video and you have an incredibly soothing voice!
glad the video's back
Was pretty sad when they went down initially
So basically...don't mess with flowers. It fucks with timelines :P
Honestly, incredible job putting this all together. I knew just from NieR:Automata that the backstory would be convoluted, but this is an entire other world of nonsense in its own right to try and comprehend, well done.
Great video, there is only one problem: I didn't understand anything :v
I feel you , it took me a lot of videos and articles researching before I could finally grasp what is what
she skips many details that would help but going into all of em would make this a 3 hours video. with luck
Gusi A. Rincon yeah. she covered the gist. I suggest, go wiki for drake 1 and 2. If you can, play nier and drake 3. or just youtube/ wiki it.
Try playing Drakengard 3 and Nier (it's easy to find), and you won't have to take in so much.
there are so many playthrough videos, just watch them on youtube.
watching this after finishing the nier automata anime made experience tons of new feelings,the anime actually did gave you a lil backstory from previous titles mentioned here in a real dramatic way
"Last of humanity flees to the moon"...Huh.
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....but are they still there....
@@mattisixx1699 play the game.
It's revealed this never actually happened and was fabricated by YoRha
Fabricated by 9s to be exact
And it all started with a freaking flower.
The Luna Tear
Great video, really enjoyed it. I had no idea the lore behind any of these games so I am definitely 11/10 confused right now. Really wanna play these games