It happened......FIIO KA17
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- It happened......FIIO KA17
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Not only you are making superb reviews, both factually and video graphically, but your room interior is pretty as well!
I was literally now looking for more on this and here comes Dave with the clutch review 👏🏾
Nice! Thanks for watching!
@@Gizaudio Hello! Thanks foe review, Have you use desktop? What you use for it?
Ka17 is the perfect companion for a laptop , this thing really rocks great size and impressive power
I just got mine and updated it to Firmware 2.00. It's 20 times better than the stock firmware it came with. No problems with the EQ settings and etc.
I received mine yesterday and wow, it's amazing! My only very small complaint is that I was under the impression that the side USB-C would act as a pass through if the other USB-C was plugged into my phone. Meaning, I thought it would not only not draw off the battery of my phone but also charge my phone while all connected as I have an extremely cheap dongle DAC that does just that. I'm definitely going to keep it as it really brings my Edition XS to life without having to sit at my desk, using all my big equipment. This DAC is small and packs a huge punch at an extremely budget cost. Great review! 👍
@gunpowderstudio2419 Thanks! I did a few months ago but I don't think there has been any updates since.
Nice review Dave 👍 Will the KA17 change tracks when you hold down the volume buttons like the KA5? After having this feature I miss it when it's not available.
hidiz hd80s has done the 2 type c thing for a while. 2 type c port with 4.4 and 3.5 are all at the bottom of the device and it has magnet, truly convenient.
different kinda product or can say usage, this doesnt have build in battery while the hidizs does.
thanks for checking out the review!
Please ka11 review
@Gizaudio KA17 vs Aune Yuki, Which one has the deepest stage and best imaging? Which one is better with brighter IEMs like EA1000?
Would love to know how the Yuki compares with iems.
They are all the same, get something like Colorfly CDA m1p, or Akliam PD5 and be happy (btw AK4493 is better with bright IEM's, as they say - it has "warm sound")
Really nice review gizaudio, I’m thinking whether to get the btr15 or ka17, also I would appreciate if the videos had timestamps so people can jump between different sections of the video.
Could you compare vs the Shanling UA4 too? It's got the same ESS dac chip that the KA17 got two of..
Hello ! How do you do?
Always enjoyed all your dacs reviews I find it very honest and detailed at the same time ! Kudos 😊
At the same time was wondering could you advice me ? As I am about to throw my dollars either on this K17 or the Hiby FC6..
I understand the fc06 only has 3.5 terminations that's fine with me.
So what's your pick?
FC6 or K17.
My audio reference is slight V Shape .
I like enough bass slam yet has enough clarity on the highs as well .thx a million 😊😊😊
Do you plan on reviewing the BTR15 as well? Not a lot of folks are correcting this one!
I do want to! Just need to get my hands on it. Thanks for watching!
Hello, good video, I am new to this audiophile and I just bought this ka17, I would like to know which model of Fiio brand in-ear headphones is compatible to get the most out of it.
First time here, nice video, nice review , nice presentation and transitions. Subscribed now.
How would this pair, even better than the BTR7? I want either to pair with Dan Clarke Aeon Noire 2. Plannar Magnetic. Which would be best, Thanks
Great review, will you be getting the Tansio Mirai 10th Anniversary- would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks.
Shoes on in the house AND on the furniture is WILD
Can you make video with the intro which never stops? 😀
Lol, sorry, I know the intro's a little long. Thanks for your patience, and thanks for watching!
Do you find that more expensive DACs can be justified for IEMs?
i'd love to see you review the FiiO KA11
Looks good! Should we expect a version in future with Bluetooth?
Please answer my question : does fiio ka17 is more powerful than fiio x5 mark iii ( dac compare ) or not? If yes , how much? Thanks for rewiew
Yes, totally more powerful
The X5 mk3 is 240mW on the 2.5 meanwhile KA17 is 650mW
Great review! So I’ve been using the Fiio Q1 Mark II for the past few years! Just recently ordered the Fiio JT1’s and I’m not sure if my current dac will push it. So I’m looking at either getting this or the Fiio K11. Which would you pick? FYI I love punchy bass! 😂
Do you plan to review KA11? Seems like a dawn pro killer and it’s only slightly bigger than apple dongle
Yes, will be excited to see its review. It has only one flaw it does not support inline mic and controls.
Yes, hopefully I can pick one up soon. Thanks for watching!
@@Gizaudio wheh you review can you please confirm does it support inline mic play pause?
@@SushanttechworldI have one and it doesn't. Otherwise, it is a phenomenal little device for the price!
@@xdoctorblindx thanks for letting us know.
Any plans for a KA13 review? Seems like a good alternative to the FC4, DC04 Pro, Tanchjim Space
Yes indeed KA13 is the most powerful amongst them all around that price.
@BrianLimoa
Ka13 is awesome and much cheaper too. Comparing to a desktop unit like fiio K7, Ka13 Brings out the mids and bass noticeably. Your music sounds punchier more alive. K7 does have more power so bass is stronger, but only when the music calls for it. Most of the time, Ka13 just sounds way better.
Ka17 is a replacement for the Ka5 which sounds exactly like K7 with alot less power.
Volume adjustment in Ka13 sukks and it does got slightly hot compared to other less power dongles..
@@Ricer-b4n do u prefer ka13, epz tp50, ka17 or hifi ifi dac 3 ?
How's Is COMPARISON to the btr15 and btr7
Also looking for the answer to this question. Hopefully somebody can chime in 😊
Dave reviews something, I like the video. Simple.
Dac's soundstage discourse: is it not a joke?
ติดตามตลอดครับ โดนป้ายไปเยอะอยู่ 😆
Where did you buy that Orange USB-C cable?
Do you have any plans to review the cheapest model the KA11?
Yes, hopefully I can pick one up soon. Thanks for watching!
oh man, I hope Timmy-san will eventually do a review for DAC too in mear future 😐
Kinda a newbiew here sorry. How does it compare to questyle M15?
KA17 is better overall
Hey ! Just found your channel. Great Review. Could you get your hands on a FIIO KA11?
Can I charge my phone by plugging a power cable into the extra Type-C port? It would be great to have this option in case my phone or tablet's battery runs low. 🤔
I am looking for a DAC for my iPhone. A friend a mine sells an used Mojo 1 for the KA17 price. How do both DAC’s compare, do you think ? Which would you go for ? A new KA17 or an used Mojo1 ?
I'm very familiar with the Mojo 1. In my experience, it deserves the hype it has gotten over the years. I don't own one anymore so I couldn't do a side by side but going by memory if I'm choosing based on pure sonic performance, I would choose the Mojo 1. It has basically the same power and level output at 32 ohms. But here are some things to consider.
It's old and used, its big, It doesn't have a type C input or any balanced outputs (although it's a very well implemented single ended output. And there are two!)
Honestly, not a bad deal at that price point. Tough choice!
Thanks for watching!
@@Gizaudio Many thanks for this detailed answer ! 👍🏻
@user-ty4cg3nf9s Thank you for your feedback. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Heyo, I’ve been looking to upgrade my portable audio solution from the FiiO Q11 to something else and I was looking at the BTR7 how do you think the BTR7 compares to the ka17 and your other favorites? And is there another one around the $200 range that you’d pick over the BTR7 and Moonriver 2 TI? Thank you if you end up finding this comment and replying!
TLDR: Looking for a new dongle dac, im in the ~$200 range, and am interested in the KA17, BTR7 and Moonriver 2TI (or any others in that pricerange that may be better)
(I only use IEMs)
Im also looking for the answer to this. btr7 vs ka7. Which is better, assuming I don't use the BT. And I only use iem.
Thanks for the review👍… I want to ask, do you drive your IEMs only single ended with FC6 or you get some adapter like DD hifi to use also 4.4 IEMs Thank you❤️🙋♂️
If you use an adapter, it will NOT be balanced!
Well, yes of course, but it would alow me to use Hiby FC6 with my 4.4 IEM cables, so I don't have to change it all the time...DD hifi has one it's called I think DJ 44Cpro...✌️ 🔆
@@jaroslavfricek7772 I may get one too, since I have a FC6 in transit.
Hey everyone. I have a fee great iems and an iBasso DX320 DAC which is no slouch either. Can anyone explain to me like a 5 year old, why my iems sound so much better running through the fiio and into the iBasso Dac than if I were to just plug directly into the iBasso. It a pretty noticeable improvement. Why does this happen. So now I'm dongle shopping and I find an even better one made by ifi for around $400. Is my sound just going to get better and better if I run a killer dongle into the ibasso first. Does this always happen? Iems using currently. Unique Melody Indigo ($2000) and the Moondrop Aria 2's - which sound almost better than the Indigos and I got a pair used for $60. Now I want to sell the indigos even thkugh they do perform a little better.. but it's like adding this dongle changed everything. HAS anybody else had this happen to them? A really inexpensive sounding pair of iems almost outperforming god tier iems while using the dongle going into the iBasso Dac or better I'm really confused. Anyone in the market for the Melody Mest Indigos for a really good deal? 😅
what woud you chose for gaming and overall usage ? Campfire Audio Bonneville or ie900 ? Thieaudio Hype 10 maybe?
Which one is better in your opinon...KA17 or KA5??
I'm after a DAC to use with my tablet inside my car. I need to be able to charge my tablet and at the same time have a 3.5mm AUX cable to plug into my cars AUX input. Am I able to do this with the KA 17? In any case is there a DAC you can recommend which is constantly powered along with my tablet with the use of one USB C output from my car.
What are the green IEM's in your video?
Campfire Andromeda
Dac ตัวนี้จำเป็นต้องคู่กับ aful performer 8 หรือแค่หูฟังกับDacราคาประหยัดก็พอครับ
Can the phone be charge if a powered usb c is pluged on left usb c port when the regular usb c port is pluged to the phone. It would be charging the phone while listening.
Would ka17 be better than YUKI?
Totally
Thank you for your review. I have Hifiman HE400se, which amp/dac do you recommend for desktop setup, KA17 or K11?
From my own experience I would recommend to sell it, and buy Ananda nano that works fine out of weak source, no need stationary amp set-up. In my case it works perfectly with a simple DAP Hiby r6iii. I have an 4100 mw amp too, but it collects dust now, planning to sell it after he400se
Which portable one is the best for sound quality? I don’t have any budget. Thank you.😊
I've wrote this to someone else: I've used both the FiiO KA5 and the FiiO KA13, and in my experience, they are both excellent, particularly the KA13, which is an underrated portable DAC. The choice between them depends on your use case. I have a lot of headphones, and the KA13 handled them very well due to its Desktop mode. While it doesn't drive the headphones fully, it still packs a heavy punch. The KA5, on the other hand, is more suited for IEMs compared to the KA13. I've upgraded to the K17 because I had a lot of powerful headphones that needed more than 60 Ohms to drive them. (Beyerdynamic DT990 and other Sennheiser headphones). If you focusing on using IME's then the KA13 is a better pick from the KA5. If you are tight on a budget then I'd recommend the KA5 or the Moondrop Dawn Pro USB DAC/AMP. All these products are less than 80$ after tax (Look at AliExpress and avoid Amazon cause you'd pay a bit more).
The SPDIF output is optical or coaxial? Thanks
Iv read and heard some reviewers say it gets hot, have you done any firmware updates that fixed this issue?
would you rather get the KA17 or Hip Dac3 for sound quality? (I use over ear only like msr7b/monoprice m1570 planars) with 4.4mm
btw good video
So I have the tanjchim space and the new ziigaat doscinco. Should i update my dac to the ka17?
Thanks alot for the best review for k17,,,
Please i need you advice i am interested to buy portable Dac to use it with my phone Samsung S24 is the k17 is the best or there is another one dispute the cost, my iem sennheiser ie 300 could you help me please 🙏
I think the IE600 is a very sensitive iem, which means you should need very little power to push it. So, most any of the dongles I compared the KA17 with should work fine. Most of the differences I noticed between the KA17, M3 MK2, Moonrover 2 Ti, Yuki, and several other dacs (in that price range) were only with full size headphones. With iems they all performed almost on the same technical level but with just very minor differences in the overall sound presentations. That being said the KA17 offers more features. If you don't need the extra features, any of those shold work. Honestly you would probably even be fine with the Snowynight or Dawn Pro. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching!
I want to express my sincere thanks to @Gizaudio for providing clarification
Did this device works good with iPhone 15 pro max?
This is probably a dumb question but do you need to add an additional power supply when using desktop mode or is it the same setup as regular mode?
Should be the same
does it support inline microphone?
order how it compares to the KA5
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Wait is that a xuanwu gate review unit in the background at 2:33? I've been looking forward to that set for a while and I hope it's good when reviews come out 🙏
how does it compare to the btr7?
ka17 or ru7?
Ru7
Si por este precio ninguno le llega a cayin ru7 o de precio similar,¿Entonces como se compara en tecnisidades y cuerpo de nota con snowynight y aune Yuki?.
Which is better the Fiio BTR 7 or this product?
Would really appreciate an answer to this too 🙏.
BTR is Bluetooth dac/amp but KA17 it’s more powerful a lot compared to BTR7
Would this be able to handle sennheiser hd660s? 150ohm
Don't know what you do for a living, but please teach me.😢
Hello! why you don't like musihifi m3 II ?
11:20 can't find a Hiby FC6 that looks like this
That’s the moon river 2 TI
Does the peq in the app allow shelf filters? Up until now and with other fiio units, it didn't...
Yes it does if you update the KA17's firmware to 2.00. their 0.99 version had a lot of bugs and problems. Now it's all fixed.
is this work for any of iems ?
why would you want to switch between usb 1.0 or 2.0? i could maybe understand between 2.0 and 3.x but 1.0? what benefit would that offer?
UAC stands for USB Audio Class. Some older devices like the original Nintendo switch supports UAC 1.0 ONLY
Thanks for answering this., and thanks for watching!
@@xinyuchen thanks, that makes much more sense
its little brother the ka11 might be the new budget king at 29 usd, a review of it would be very nice
Which one did you like in terms of the sound fiio ka17 or ka5 when used with iem headphones?
I use the KA17 with my Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro's and it sounds majestic. 80 Ohms seems to handle no questions asked
@@gunpowderstudio2419 Justo estoy viendo comprarlos, ya que tengo los DT990 Pro de 250 Ohm, inicialmente probe un KA3 pero me dio muchos problemas por lo inestable que era, gracias a tu comentario voy algo más confiado a comprarlo owo
This or the Fiio BTR7?
I've had the BTR7 - this has the higher Milliamp Output, also the USB Charging. Id go this
Where did you get that orange usb c cable?
They came with the Xduoo XD05 Pro but I think the company is called Chubby cables. Thanks for watching!
Has the EQ improved or is the Qudelix 5K still the go-to for EQ?
still the go to
else use wavelet and anything has EQ
@@Desanusor yeah but that app is not always reliable
Btr7 vs ka17 in terms of just sound quality.
3:30 I know this might sound silly
But, could I power it off a portable battery instead, or use a splitter, and power my phone from the battery and the DAC from the battery, and up looking like that guy on the train with a whole sub station powering some headphones
KA17 loses completely to the old cayin n6 first. Both with iem and hd800. At all. Everything is worse - the amount of air, transparency, frequencies. I don’t take higher levels in desktop DACs, this is an ordinary Chinese player for 500 dollars from 10 years ago. Now I’m comparing it live and I’m amazed - what tests guys? Did you even really listen to him? Both from a phone and from a computer. No, maybe, of course, others are even worse. But damn, $150 for an external dac that's barely better than Bluetooth ears? Damn, it's a mess. UNHAPPY. One plus is that the phone does not carry the n6 via USB, there is not enough power supply, and the KA17 plays without problems with the iPhone 15 pro max. Same as with the W11 computer and macbook pro
FiiO had me at THX AAA, then Dave comes in and tells me that it has a separate USB-C for power and that it is on par with the MoonRiver 2 Ti. Looks like I am getting one of this.
Good afternoon. The product arrived in good condition, but the technical condition is simply terrible. the software is raw and unfinished. Fiio claims that this is a flagship product, but in fact it is a complete disgrace. however the price is very high. I ask you to compensate this amount as moral damages for wasted time and money
you should probably talk to fiio about this. this guy just made a review he doesn’t represent the company
Mate, returns exist.
Привет друг,как он в сравнении с fiio ka5?😊😊😊
Одна манда.