That’s why he references the commissioner being more accepting and flexible. Where Roger just isn’t he backs the owners cause technically that’s who he works for. Silva takes a completely different stand. So even though the owners are the same he has to function differently when it comes to the NBA...
The shop is filmed way in advance dude! The tampering thing hadn’t even happened yet. And players can’t be tamper, that’s for team executives if that was the case the whole NBA would have tampering chargers everyone plays together and hangs out outside of the regular season and games.
Its hilarious cause by his definition LeBron applies even more of a "slave mentality" than any NFL owner. He has it his way and gets rid of anyone who isn't in line
You see Doug Got lie bb and Rob Parkers Argument are Coming from their Own Cultures and Ancestral up Bringing of Course Managers or Governors of the NFL HAVE A SLAVE MENTALITY You Still Call Jerry Jones a OWNER NO PHYSICAL FLESHLY PERSON OWNS NO OTHER THE CREATOR WHOSE NAME IS YAHWEH ELOHIM YAHSHUA IS ONE CREATOR OF ALL THE CREATION OR THE UNIVERSE WHO PUT THE BREATH OF LIFE IN ALL THAT WE SEE PALE FACES ARE ALWAYS GONNA DEFLECT FROM SLAVERY AND RAPE AND MURDER NO RACE OR FLESH IS BETTER THEN THE OTHER THATS OBVIOUS ALL HAVE COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF THE HOLY SPIRIT YAHSHUA THE MESSIAH WHO DIED FOR MANKIND OR THE WORLD LIKE ROMANS 1: 19 -20 THE PHYSICAL POINTS OUT THE SPIRITUAL SOMETHING HAS TO DIE AND BE BURIED IN STOMACH AND RESSURECT INTO OUR BLOODSTREAM THE NUTRIENTS TO SUSTAIN OUR EVERYDAY LIFE BE IT VEGETATION OR ANIMAL TAKE THE HOLY SPIRIT OUT OF ANY LIVING BREATHING CREATION AND THE STENCH IS UNBEARABLE STOP HATING ONE ANOTHER WE ALL CAME FROM ADAM AND EVE ACTS 17 :26 HATH MADE OF ONE BLOOD ALL NATIONS OF MEN TO DWELL ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH ( THINK STOP BEING STUPID )
Doug said holding up a black fits. Not just their fits. When you have to get loud to explain your point of view. That's when the conversation with person should ended. He's not open minded he can only see it from one side and one side only. That's what all racist people have in common. You have to have empathy to be a great man or woman. And also be an open minded person. And I'm tired of players comparing slavery to any paid sports in America. Last time I check. The NBA, NFL, MLB and NHL was a paid program. Slavery was not a choice human beings was tortured and murdered.
Yessir!!!!! It's gets old, being blamed for everything because I'm a white man. 21st Century logic I guess...group think. Not that care. I just throw up the two middle fingers and say a big "FUCK YOU!!!!!" People need to THINK...not FEEL.
Have you dedicated half your life to becoming one of the top 1%... Of anything? If so... You will not be treated like a slave or even a Wal-Mart employee.
You're not serious right? Kaepernick kept himself out of the league. 1. Final two seasons in SF were lack luster at best. 2. He opted out of his final year in SF to test the waters of free agency at the same time he had abysmal numbers and was creating discourse for his team with his antics. 3. He and his agent agreed they would only entertain starter money with guaranteed opportunities to start. 4. When he did finally decide to entertain back up contracts his idiot girlfriend (now wife) went and talked shit about the owner and the Ravens favorite player ever. 5. He visited like five teams I believe, none of them were willing to offer starter money for a back up QB. What the man does off the field as a humanitarian is great, but on the field he is an average maybe even mediocre QB, who's propensity for creating distraction far far outweigh his talent level. That is why Kaepernick is keeping himself out of the NFL.
i like rob parker ,.....but when he is saying that is a conversation black people have all the time,... is him openly admitting blacks have open discussions while being racist toward white all the time ... if a white person admitting to this people would be pissed lebrons commit was racist and it is racial stereotyping
Kaep wasnt even that great when he started during those Harbaugh years. Many people still argue that Smith shouldve started after he got healthy. Kaep had 1 breakout game against the Packers, other than that he had been pretty mediocre. Im a die hard 49er fan and that team was carried by Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, a top 5 O-line at the time, and an elite defense featuring Patrick Willis, Justin Smith, and Navarro Bowman.
Rob Parker is on point. So were going to act like Kap wasn’t black balled...and act like it was his play that caused this. It’s wrong just wrong!!! Let’s not change the narrative.
Even if he was, his employer asked him to stop doing something and he didn't and he got fired..that would happen at any organization, black or white-owned. People need to stop sensitive race baiters...you try disobeying your boss consistently, and see what happens to you whether black or white.
Lebron should be suspended for saying jewish money. He should also donate all of his slave earnings to the holocaust museums. Then he should sponsor sensitivity training for black athletes so this hate speech stops immediately.
If Kaepernick would answer the phone these shows would let him host every show for at least a week. And they'd pay him to do it. But he has nothing to say.
While I’m not really a fan of Doug Gottlieb, I agree with him on this. The Employer/Employee analogy is more appropriate than the Slavery analogy. People just like to use the slavery analogy because the guys who own the team are just that, OWNERS. Players can be “purchased” (i.e. signed) and once they sign, they’re contractually “owned” which puts restrictions on what they can and cannot do. Plus there’s the whole thing of being able to trade players contracts to other teams, with or without the players consent. Then there’s the whole evaluation process of pro drafts, where players are poked and prodded, examined and evaluated, weighed and measured, not unlike the slave auctions during slavery. THAT BEING SAID, I think part of what’s at play here is that, for most professional athletes in the MAJOR sports leagues, they’ve been guided and groomed and coddled since adolescence. In many cases, it means they’ve never had to work a real job. You know what happens in the real world? When you get a job? You do what the boss tells you, that’s what. You wear the company uniform, or dress in a manner that fits the policy of the company. You may not like, or agree, with the direction of the company, or it’s policies, or it’s politics. You may think your boss is a moron. But he’s the moron who signs your checks, or approves your payroll. So you do it. Because if you don’t, you’ll get reprimanded, or you’ll GET FIRED. That’s not slavery. That’s BUSINESS.
Riddle me this: If black NFL players truly feel that they are being treated unfairly, why won’t they just pool their money and resources and go start their own league? Why do they feel compelled to work for these so-called “slave owners”?
I’ve never heard an NFL player in any interviews say I was forced into the draft, I was forced to be selected in whatever round I was selected in, I was forced to be on this team, I was forced into the position that I’m playing, I was forced to play on Sundays, Monday’s, Thursday’s or any other day I’m scheduled to play. Lastly I never heard anyone say that I was forced to take the salary that I’m being paid.
Employers don’t treat you great if they think you might be alienating a big chunk of their customer base. That’s not even up for debate. I’m wondering if LeBron would allow his brand to be damaged by his employee’s right to free speech.
Will Jones - Phrase it any way you like it. Is Partner better? Ok. Nobody is going to enter into or stay in a partnership if they think their partner might be or would alienate their customer base. Is that better? It doesn’t change anything but I don’t want you to be unhappy.
The NFL never lost money because of the protest, they lied to the people to get them on their side. The revenue for the NFl increased. Why are people who make less that 250,000 worried about Billionaires losing money. The CEO of Papa John came out and lied they where losing money, it was reported he was lying and was asked to step down. When will people accept people's OPINIONS and move on.
Christopher Beasley - I’m not really worried about the NFL owners. I’m just surprised by the level of hypocrisy of a person who is constantly pushing his brand complaining about others protecting their brand. Maybe self-awareness is not LeBron’s forte?
Doug Gottleib is working but I'll always see him as a credit card thief, fair or not. Should he not work? Of course he should work and his skin color is a lot lighter than Kaep's.
Best comparison is to Barry Bonds for a player being too much of a distraction to be playing. He was still most dangerous player but the media frenzy around him made it not worth it
Labron's comments are ignorant, racist and hypocritical. If players are slaves I sure wish I was working for these slave owner's. Labron is the actual slave owner paying people manufacturing Nike's $160 a day in Indonesia. LeBron makes me sick to my stomach.
Well let's see, I go to work, have to be on time, do as my employers would like; which they pay me about $30k a year. If I don't I get fired. I don't argue I just do as the job requires and do it a best I can. Being employed is a privilege vs having no job. Being an athlete earning more in 1 year than I'll make in 20 is also a HUGE privilege. They may feel different if they had to do the daily grind that most of us do. Hope the Lord opens his eyes and removes the greed.
Jerry Dunn Why? Cuz you don’t agree with them? Be careful of trying to silence someone for their views, cuz you wouldn’t want anyone to do it to you. They have a right to their opinion if you like it or not.
@@Maal7432 No, it's not because I agree or disagree; it's because I don't value their opinions any more than the guy sitting next to me in a bar. Do you think the NBA player who thinks the Earth is flat should have kept his mouth shut? And didn't some professional athlete recently say 2 + 2 didn't equal 4? There are impressionable people out there who might think that just because someone plays a professional sport that they are someone to believe, even when they don't have a clue as to what they are talking about. I don't value opinions from professional athletes any more than I value the opinion of the guy sitting next to me in a bar or wherever. In fact, I think that overall the IQ of many sports stars is mighty low, so much so that they should never have graduated from college. Ever listen to some of these athletes get interviewed? Most of them don't even know proper grammar -- and they're college graduates...give me a freakin' break.
LeBron wanted recognition for Shop Talk - that's it. It was a business decision. He went with a sensationalize moniker, as advertisement. Now 2 of my fav talking heads are going at it. Another W for Bron in pop culture. But was it right to say?
Lebron start a business hire me for $1 million a year and then let me do and say whatever I want regardless of if you approve or how it effects your company
Like any business owner. It's their business, they are the boss, if you don't like it find another job. LeBron continues to open his mouth and remove all doubt.
What victims they are millionaires doing what they like ,is why nfl is amazing and whit parity,Doug is right Lebron : please is time to go to the school and get educated
Doug killed him with victim mentality part and the end when he said rob has become that guy who claims racism at everything. doug goatlieb ladies and gents.
No one in these comments are actually saying why Doug is wrong. They are just calling him an old white man. No one can actually articulate an argument against him
The NBA has an easier time between players and owners because there are way less players in the NBA. In the NFL you think every player is going to have a close relationship with the owner; no way. There are players that flood into the NFL every year so if you don't agree with a player it is easy to get rid of them. Not saying it is right or wrong; just stating what it is.
LeBron don’t complain about slavery, you get paid millions from Nike yet they operate factory’s In China, Indonesia and Vietnam under horrendous working conditions. So stop already
The reason kap lost his job originally was because he got injured. Gabbert was starting while kap was recovering from that shoulder injury. Not because of poor play.
I totally disagree with Doug regarding baseball vs football. If you're good at baseball and better at football, play baseball. Longer career and able to maintain health. Don't be mislead by Doug. Football contracts are not fully guaranteed. Everyone doesn't have an agent/ deal like Kirk Cousins.
Bill Rhoden wrote a book called 40 million dollar slave. Read it. Come on people LeBron was speaking parenthetically at best. I do think it was an over reaction on LeBron's part. Two things I'm sure of LeBron's heart if not his words are in the right place and I believe he was speaking to the situation with Colin Kapernack. LeBron at least has the courage to speak his mind inappropriate as it may be at times which is more than I can say about the majority of athletes. Furthermore this whole thing about keep your mouth shut and just play is gutless beyond all words. If you can't speak up when you have money then when can you speak up? Talk about a slave mentally.
@greg taylor Ty for bringing up that book by Bill Rhoden of the New York Times. It is exactly what Lebron was meaning. Dougie G is a guy that has been privileged his whole life thats why he will steal credit cards from people and try to be transfer with no issues. He does not do the research but more importantly he selectively listen during a convo. Rob should have done a better job at responding to the lies that Dougie was saying like John Elway wanted to bring Kap on his team for a lower price, however that was before all of the controversy took place.
Bron Bron was 100% correct!!!...but if the NBA didn't have guaranteed contracts, they would be sitting down and shutting the fuck up cause they wouldn't fuck up their money!!
It’s sad to see a young man like LeBron James be so uninformed when he opens his mouth & says things like this. You have opportunities that many people dream about having and you play the victim. Wow!!! You are on the cusps of being a billionaire at an young age and you’re passing this kind of mind set on to people who are in need of hope and not to be told that they are victims.
The breast cancer awareness was to appeal to women who protest the NFL because they protect woman beating players. They only started addressing domestic violence seriously after the Ray Rice video.
There are alot of owners that dont care and trade or drop people for small reasons and blackball cap and did this guy just say cap is not blackballed and he isnt on a team cause he cant start but if you look at these starting qbs thats crazy he couldn't get a chance and then he contradicted himself when he said they might not want him kneeling.
Most jobs, hedl by NFL fans, are not guaranteed. Most NFL fans didn't pine away for Kaepernick to start for their team. Most NFL fans don't think about the anthem on a daily basis, but when everyone stands, most stand.
So if your boss fires you because your inept at your job makes him have slave mentality?? GTFOH!! Whats real slavery is the kids that make your damn sneakers Lebron...
By the way Jewish people need to start having conversations with black people because there’s a lot of things going wrong.. that’s on the ownership and gatekeepers..
Slave mentality doesn’t mean the owners are slave. It’s a hyperbole as we ALL use on a daily basis. If I say my boss is a dictator does thet mean he is like Kim Jong Un ? Come on now.
People today think racism is simply calling another group some derogatory names. Nobody seems to know the definition of Race-ism. LeBron is right. Regardless of how he articulates it. He's speaking to the tradition of all white owners and controllers dictating to the all black young entertainers. They would prefer that these young black men not have an opinion, a vision, a perspective or a desire for ownership and control of their situation. That's what is being spoke of. It's not to insult white Americans. Or old white team owners. But let's study the history of ownership in America before we jump down LeBron James' throat. And most of all, learn the true and original definition of Race-ism to understand how and why a young black male would feel the way LeBron does.
Kaepernick can’t read defense and make throws, simple as that. The NFC championships he was involved with, truth be told, had more to do with SF’s O-line and Frank Gore than Kaepernick. Not to say he didn’t make plays, but by no means did he put the team on his back. If he still played at a high level he’d be on the field, since at the end of the day winning cures all. Kaepernick doesn’t want to be anywhere near a football field believe that...
@@TheVilouboy Doug thinks "Slave mentality" means actual slavery. He's passionate about his something he knows nothing about. It's like Parker telling him to not be offended about the "Jewish money" thing when it's really not his place because he doesn't know the full knowledge of it. Also his history on Kaepernick is flawed.
@Faisal M....thank you for your opinion and I really appreciate it. Hopefully Felicia will respond and either support your argument or come with her own opinion. But let me address your opinion, I believe that Doug as well as Rob, stated in the beginning the difference between "Slavery" and having a "Slave Mentality". Now there were points in the conversation where Doug went back and forth between the two but you have to take the entire topic into consideration. Rob has a tendency to try and talk over people (watch any Undisputed, or listen to when Chris tries to speak) so I feel that Doug was getting frustrated with his ill mannered mannerisms and misspoke. So I feel being both passionate and frustrated about the sport as well as the horrible topic (either slavery or slave mentality) he's human and he's allowed to make a mistake. Now again, if you listen to the entire broadcast, he ended with saying that they were talking about slave mentality, and not slavery. I disagree with LeBron (agree with Doug), because at the end of the day this is a business. There are the people who run (bosses) the "Company" and the people who work (employees) for the "Company". You have to have a chain of command, everyone working for the company cannot have an equal share, as that would not make great business sense. I'm pretty sure you work for someone, and you have a boss. Name me ANY company in the world, where you're not the CEO, that if you do not perform to the terms of your contract that another company will pick you up, knowing that you did not perform as your were obligated to do. If you fail to perform to the terms of your contract than you should be cut, and what Doug was saying is that see players are being payed millions of dollars to play a sport. If they (the employees/players) do not perform, then they just get reassigned (traded) to another company (team). So to say that these "Old White Men" have a slave mentality is ludicrous. Yes your "boss" is getting paid billions, but again, that's business. Now I do believe that Kap is not in the league because of his protest against the injustice in our country (not SOLEY, but mainly). He's numbers/stats were/are better than some of the of the QBs that have been signed or brought out of retirement. And let's face it, he's not putting up Brees, Brady, Rodger numbers but just as Doug said in this day and age, if your significant other says that your potential boss, and legendary "Worker" are a racist/"Uncle Tom" then no, I wouldn't hire you either. Ask yourself that question, if you owned a business, and a potential employee spouse called you a racist, would you hire that person? As the old saying goes, "The Fruit doesn't fall too far from the tree".
@@TheVilouboy That's with one particular team his girlfriend (which Doug calls an idiot, that's unprofessional) said was racist which is the Ravens. Kaep is honestly better than a few starting QBs and A LOT of backups. The reason I have no respect for Doug Gottleib is he's not clear with admitting that Kaep would still be in the NFL if he weren't blackballed. He's saying his lack of skill was the reason he was benched (which is false, he was recovering from injury and was put as backup). LeBron's whole point isn't to say NFL players are slaves but they aren't given a proper right to speech, and are constantly being shut up for their opinions. They should be treated, atleast, like the ones who are selling tickets. They're the reason why we watch the NFL. They did a "random" drug test on Eric Reid last week. His 7th in 11 weeks. That isn't right. Lastly, this Doug is always just so wrong. He once sat on First Things First and tried to tell the crew that the NCAA is fair. No one in their right minds, unless they work in the NCAA commission, would make such an absurd proclamation.
@Faisal M....Thank you for your response. So it's ok for LeBron, who is regarded as the face of the NBA, regardless of the PC version of the word used, to label someone "Old White Men/Slave Mentality" (basically calling them racist/PC version) that's not unprofessional but Doug who is not on the same level as a Skip, Stephen A, or Max Kellerman (and DEFINITELY not on a global level as LBJ) it's wrong to label ONE person an idiot, that's wrong? Gotcha. In regards to him admitting about Kap being "Blackballed" start listening at the 11:00 mark, and particularly around 11:19. * Yet again he couldn't make his point because, as usual, Rob interrupted because he doesn't have any manners.* As he stated before, he isn't saying that the ENTIRE reason is that he a "Bad" player, he acknowledges that his actions are also playing a factor for him not playing in the NFL. The idea that he (Doug) isn't showing the same compassion (or using the word that would satisfy your "taste" which is blackballed) as others doesn't mean that he is completely dismissing that possibility. Again, there are other players (as stated in this broadcast) who have voiced their opinion, in regards to the injustices in our country. Ray Lewis, and Shannon Sharpe both said, that there were other ways that he could've gone about it. In regards to NFL players, again let's take this out of sports and apply it somewhere else. Let's say that I went to a LBGT rally, convention , or whatever, and I kneeled in front of the "Rainbow Flag" (a symbol of their organization), I would be persecuted as a "Gay Basher". Even though in the Bible it states (Leviticus 18:22) that homosexuality is wrong (or injust), if I go there and protest, I would globally persecuted. (Kevin Hart was JUST told apologize, or lose your job hosting the Oscar) So why is it the Old White Slave owners faults for running a company that makes billions of dollars, and try to keep their business "afloat" if they ban a member for speaking out injustices? That's any business owner, they do not want to bring negativity to their business. Just like if someone uses a racial slur, their fired. Or if they use a homosexual slur, they're not only fired but ye are branded a Gay Basher. Again, I completely support Kap, and I think that what happened to him is one of the worse tragedies in modern sports (especially when the NFL allows drug dealers/rapist play) but when you disgrace the Symbol of our nation, many would view that worse than precious stated crimes. As far as the NCAA, I agree that it's not fair, but again, let's look at it from the "10,000 foot view" those are STUDENT-ATHLETES, students first. Everyone is so concerned about the money that those kids should be getting (and rightfully so, you use my name, I should get paid) but I don't hear anyone talking who when a VAST majority of these young men cross over to the professional sport they can barely read/write. There are a few Richard Sherman, Tim Duncan but the number that graduated vs those just chasing a dollar doesn't even compare. Where is your compassion for them then? Why take someone straight from High School (especially inner cities where education isn't a good as some of your suburban schools) straight to the pros? It's sad to see these young men cross over and not even have a college degree to fall back on because our society has become more infatuated with watching sports than watching a doctor conduct open heart surgery, or two lawyers debate in a courtroom to decide someone's future (innocent/guilty). One more thing I forgot to add, in the beginning you said "ONE particular team". Yes there's 32 teams in the league, but ONE team was willing to give him a chance, so again to say that the ENTIRE NFL is Blackballing him is false. Lastly. I didn’t see you say anything about the Jewish comment.
Rob Parker looked ridiculous on this one. He's spreading gossip and nonsense. Was embarrassing & zero facts to back up his original argument on nfl owners having slave mentality. I hope people like him can gain some amount of credibility back now that Trumps gone
Doug Speaking so passionately speaking about things he doesn’t know anything about, people could argue that the Jewish Community should not be offended by Lebron Jewish money quote but as a black man I know I don’t fully understand the Jewish plight and if they see that it is offensive it is. Also he’s acting like he doesn’t understand the difference between actual slavery and slavery mentality! come on man
No hes not. Hes saying the comparison is retarded as fuck. Its an owner/ employee situation. Not a slave-owner/slave one. Hes also pointing out that the victim mentality is weak, and lacks any intellectual merit.
being openly racist to against white ppl is socially accepted now... all hidden behind the "but, your ancestors were horrible ppl" argument. and, to be completely honest, white ppl are starting to get really fucking sick of it. you can here the frustration in dougs voice.
@@roysears2919 exactly LBJ is just saying NFL players feel like property, nba players feel like partners. People being property is an aspect of slavery, anothwr aspect of slavery is limiting ones rights, like the right to protest.
LeBron should be the person to get things done in his sport, in society and other sports -and not complain about them - but he is coming to a cross road and must decided how is going to get this done and how he is going to perceived and if he cares. He can keep opening doors for others or he can start closing doors.
If LBJ sounds idiotic here, it's because he's never had a real job his whole life. Spoiled little Princess James.
@@Maal7432 Nah it's really not. It's a real job as much as playing make pretend in hollywood is a real job
Basketball is a job you fucking idiot and he's arugably the greatest ever at what he does you spoiled punk
@@jimmykilcomons6438 if you don't think lebron is a top 5 player in the nicest way possible just stop talking basketball
@@aravbhatt2875 1mj 2 bird 3 magic 4 Kobe 5russell
@@jimmykilcomons6438 such an awful list
I wonder if LeBron realize that the NFL owner of the team Todd Gurley plays for is also an owner n the NBA. So LeBron jus contradicted himself
That’s why he references the commissioner being more accepting and flexible. Where Roger just isn’t he backs the owners cause technically that’s who he works for. Silva takes a completely different stand. So even though the owners are the same he has to function differently when it comes to the NBA...
@@callies300 Meanwhile NBA players ARE NOT ALLOWED TO KNEEL BY RULE...but yea theyre more flexible
I don't think he realized for the simple fact I think he's encouraged to say these outrageous things
Ego maniac James has a very large mouth and nothing intelligent ever comes out!
Anyone else notice Gurley "nodding in agreement but itching to leave"?
Lebron3just changed the narrative from his tampering with AD,to the nfl owners have a salve mentality what a pathetic dude
El Diablo cabron dude hbo ship was already recorded.. it didn’t happen all of a sudden
NBA came out and said it was tampering dummy....
white people should boycott nba!
The shop is filmed way in advance dude! The tampering thing hadn’t even happened yet. And players can’t be tamper, that’s for team executives if that was the case the whole NBA would have tampering chargers everyone plays together and hangs out outside of the regular season and games.
Its real pathetic and so obvious
What's lebrons education? 11th grade?there's not a lot of people with high school educations that make 145 million plus endorsements!
Its hilarious cause by his definition LeBron applies even more of a "slave mentality" than any NFL owner. He has it his way and gets rid of anyone who isn't in line
You see Doug Got lie bb and Rob Parkers Argument are Coming from their Own Cultures and Ancestral up Bringing of Course Managers or Governors of the NFL HAVE A SLAVE MENTALITY You Still Call Jerry Jones a OWNER NO PHYSICAL FLESHLY PERSON OWNS NO OTHER THE CREATOR WHOSE NAME IS YAHWEH ELOHIM YAHSHUA IS ONE CREATOR OF ALL THE CREATION OR THE UNIVERSE WHO PUT THE BREATH OF LIFE IN ALL THAT WE SEE PALE FACES ARE ALWAYS GONNA DEFLECT FROM SLAVERY AND RAPE AND MURDER NO RACE OR FLESH IS BETTER THEN THE OTHER THATS OBVIOUS ALL HAVE COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF THE HOLY SPIRIT YAHSHUA THE MESSIAH WHO DIED FOR MANKIND OR THE WORLD LIKE ROMANS 1: 19 -20 THE PHYSICAL POINTS OUT THE SPIRITUAL SOMETHING HAS TO DIE AND BE BURIED IN STOMACH AND RESSURECT INTO OUR BLOODSTREAM THE NUTRIENTS TO SUSTAIN OUR EVERYDAY LIFE BE IT VEGETATION OR ANIMAL TAKE THE HOLY SPIRIT OUT OF ANY LIVING BREATHING CREATION AND THE STENCH IS UNBEARABLE STOP HATING ONE ANOTHER WE ALL CAME FROM ADAM AND EVE ACTS 17 :26 HATH MADE OF ONE BLOOD ALL NATIONS OF MEN TO DWELL ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH ( THINK STOP BEING STUPID )
Doug Gottlieb is always a real one... best most reasonable analyst in sports #Respect ✊🏾
Yeah this was an interesting pairing! Had to click this one!
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He's talking from a position of privilege
Doug said holding up a black fits. Not just their fits. When you have to get loud to explain your point of view. That's when the conversation with person should ended. He's not open minded he can only see it from one side and one side only. That's what all racist people have in common. You have to have empathy to be a great man or woman. And also be an open minded person. And I'm tired of players comparing slavery to any paid sports in America. Last time I check. The NBA, NFL, MLB and NHL was a paid program. Slavery was not a choice human beings was tortured and murdered.
He's right. Rob Parker wasn't open to bring logical and was running on pure emotion.
Yessir!!!!! It's gets old, being blamed for everything because I'm a white man. 21st Century logic I guess...group think.
Not that care. I just throw up the two middle fingers and say a big "FUCK YOU!!!!!" People need to THINK...not FEEL.
Treat me like a slave then, please.
Get to the level of a nfl or nba player first and THE. Be treated like a slave .
You’d be crying after the first hit bitch
Have you dedicated half your life to becoming one of the top 1%... Of anything? If so... You will not be treated like a slave or even a Wal-Mart employee.
The comedy that Doug gets loud and says Kaep isn’t getting blackballed is comedy, Rob destroyed him.
You're not serious right?
Kaepernick kept himself out of the league.
1. Final two seasons in SF were lack luster at best.
2. He opted out of his final year in SF to test the waters of free agency at the same time he had abysmal numbers and was creating discourse for his team with his antics.
3. He and his agent agreed they would only entertain starter money with guaranteed opportunities to start.
4. When he did finally decide to entertain back up contracts his idiot girlfriend (now wife) went and talked shit about the owner and the Ravens favorite player ever.
5. He visited like five teams I believe, none of them were willing to offer starter money for a back up QB.
What the man does off the field as a humanitarian is great, but on the field he is an average maybe even mediocre QB, who's propensity for creating distraction far far outweigh his talent level. That is why Kaepernick is keeping himself out of the NFL.
Only in America can someone rob a store, attack a police officer, try to take his firearm then is treated as the victim.
that was nice when doug pulled out his JEW card to counter Rob's BLACK card AT 16:15
i like rob parker ,.....but when he is saying that is a conversation black people have all the time,... is him openly admitting blacks have open discussions while being racist toward white all the time ... if a white person admitting to this people would be pissed lebrons commit was racist and it is racial stereotyping
Kaep wasnt even that great when he started during those Harbaugh years. Many people still argue that Smith shouldve started after he got healthy. Kaep had 1 breakout game against the Packers, other than that he had been pretty mediocre. Im a die hard 49er fan and that team was carried by Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, a top 5 O-line at the time, and an elite defense featuring Patrick Willis, Justin Smith, and Navarro Bowman.
Having hundreds of millions of dollars in your bank account does not make u a smart person. Lol smh
" is he a brotha?....or a cornball brotha? "😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣😂
They went to 3 but Alex Smith started the first year. But its hard to debate when emotions are involved
Rob Parker is on point. So were going to act like Kap wasn’t black balled...and act like it was his play that caused this. It’s wrong just wrong!!! Let’s not change the narrative.
Even if he was, his employer asked him to stop doing something and he didn't and he got fired..that would happen at any organization, black or white-owned. People need to stop sensitive race baiters...you try disobeying your boss consistently, and see what happens to you whether black or white.
Playing in the NFL is a privilege, not a right. Just like any other job. Kaep is not entitled to a job.
Lebron should be suspended for saying jewish money. He should also donate all of his slave earnings to the holocaust museums. Then he should sponsor sensitivity training for black athletes so this hate speech stops immediately.
goytotheworld 421 I disagree... the "ish" community will be fine, all their money and what they own is still intact!
He quoted it from a rap lyric you not making any sense lol
U can't be fucking serious 🤔
whites should boycott the nba!
Slave MENTALITY. For yall acting so smart yall leaving out a point he mad and what he said
If Kaepernick would answer the phone these shows would let him host every show for at least a week. And they'd pay him to do it. But he has nothing to say.
While I’m not really a fan of Doug Gottlieb, I agree with him on this. The Employer/Employee analogy is more appropriate than the Slavery analogy. People just like to use the slavery analogy because the guys who own the team are just that, OWNERS. Players can be “purchased” (i.e. signed) and once they sign, they’re contractually “owned” which puts restrictions on what they can and cannot do. Plus there’s the whole thing of being able to trade players contracts to other teams, with or without the players consent. Then there’s the whole evaluation process of pro drafts, where players are poked and prodded, examined and evaluated, weighed and measured, not unlike the slave auctions during slavery. THAT BEING SAID, I think part of what’s at play here is that, for most professional athletes in the MAJOR sports leagues, they’ve been guided and groomed and coddled since adolescence. In many cases, it means they’ve never had to work a real job. You know what happens in the real world? When you get a job? You do what the boss tells you, that’s what. You wear the company uniform, or dress in a manner that fits the policy of the company. You may not like, or agree, with the direction of the company, or it’s policies, or it’s politics. You may think your boss is a moron. But he’s the moron who signs your checks, or approves your payroll. So you do it. Because if you don’t, you’ll get reprimanded, or you’ll GET FIRED. That’s not slavery. That’s BUSINESS.
I dont black and white we are so different
Why does Parker talk like he a whinny 12 yr old
Riddle me this: If black NFL players truly feel that they are being treated unfairly, why won’t they just pool their money and resources and go start their own league? Why do they feel compelled to work for these so-called “slave owners”?
As a proud black woman who don’t need no man I agree with lebron.
Rob Parker is Speaking Up?!!! For Kap ? HALLELUJAH
I’ve never heard an NFL player in any interviews say I was forced into the draft, I was forced to be selected in whatever round I was selected in, I was forced to be on this team, I was forced into the position that I’m playing, I was forced to play on Sundays, Monday’s, Thursday’s or any other day I’m scheduled to play. Lastly I never heard anyone say that I was forced to take the salary that I’m being paid.
So how is that “going to the NBA straight from high school” thing workin out?!?!?
Employers don’t treat you great if they think you might be alienating a big chunk of their customer base. That’s not even up for debate. I’m wondering if LeBron would allow his brand to be damaged by his employee’s right to free speech.
Joseph Blow what ??? ... it’s a sports league chill with that employer shit
Will Jones - Phrase it any way you like it. Is Partner better? Ok. Nobody is going to enter into or stay in a partnership if they think their partner might be or would alienate their customer base. Is that better? It doesn’t change anything but I don’t want you to be unhappy.
The NFL never lost money because of the protest, they lied to the people to get them on their side. The revenue for the NFl increased. Why are people who make less that 250,000 worried about Billionaires losing money. The CEO of Papa John came out and lied they where losing money, it was reported he was lying and was asked to step down. When will people accept people's OPINIONS and move on.
Christopher Beasley - I’m not really worried about the NFL owners. I’m just surprised by the level of hypocrisy of a person who is constantly pushing his brand complaining about others protecting their brand. Maybe self-awareness is not LeBron’s forte?
whites boycott the nba! let china have them!
.....I just wish lebron would be quiet about these issues.
LeBron needs to debate Ben Shapiro.
Football and basketball millionaires have no agenda with slavery-PERIOD! My dear Rob Parker: these are REAL hypochrites.
Lightbulb moment:
Instead of cutting a (black) WR to fill your OL needs with a (white) OL, play that black WR at LT...
Doug Gottleib is working but I'll always see him as a credit card thief, fair or not. Should he not work? Of course he should work and his skin color is a lot lighter than Kaep's.
Mubupo credit card thief?
@@EJBanks Yep. Gottleib stole his roomy's credit card.
Mubupo 😮 Doug we expect better from you
@Michael Harvey What you said can literally be taken 2 ways. Who had the pre-employment private matter?
@@EJBanks uhm he is better and he is 100 percent right. Black dude said it best. Always comes down to bringing up slavery. " we sufferred"
This is being extremely over-analyzed. He said these things because LBJ is racist. Period.
Yes he is a racist and slave owner.
So Lebron in your businesses do you tell your employees what to do or do you let them do whatever they want.
LeBron has never said employees should do whatever they want. Nice try with the strawman though.
Best comparison is to Barry Bonds for a player being too much of a distraction to be playing. He was still most dangerous player but the media frenzy around him made it not worth it
Labron's comments are ignorant, racist and hypocritical. If players are slaves I sure wish I was working for these slave owner's. Labron is the actual slave owner paying people manufacturing Nike's $160 a day in Indonesia. LeBron makes me sick to my stomach.
If the contracts in the NBA were not guaranteed the game would be much better, and there wouldn’t be any tanking either.
Well let's see, I go to work, have to be on time, do as my employers would like; which they pay me about $30k a year. If I don't I get fired. I don't argue I just do as the job requires and do it a best I can. Being employed is a privilege vs having no job. Being an athlete earning more in 1 year than I'll make in 20 is also a HUGE privilege. They may feel different if they had to do the daily grind that most of us do. Hope the Lord opens his eyes and removes the greed.
Just another example of why sports stars should keep their mouths shut.
Jerry Dunn Why? Cuz you don’t agree with them? Be careful of trying to silence someone for their views, cuz you wouldn’t want anyone to do it to you. They have a right to their opinion if you like it or not.
@@Maal7432 No, it's not because I agree or disagree; it's because I don't value their opinions any more than the guy sitting next to me in a bar. Do you think the NBA player who thinks the Earth is flat should have kept his mouth shut? And didn't some professional athlete recently say 2 + 2 didn't equal 4? There are impressionable people out there who might think that just because someone plays a professional sport that they are someone to believe, even when they don't have a clue as to what they are talking about. I don't value opinions from professional athletes any more than I value the opinion of the guy sitting next to me in a bar or wherever. In fact, I think that overall the IQ of many sports stars is mighty low, so much so that they should never have graduated from college. Ever listen to some of these athletes get interviewed? Most of them don't even know proper grammar -- and they're college graduates...give me a freakin' break.
LeBron wanted recognition for Shop Talk - that's it. It was a business decision. He went with a sensationalize moniker, as advertisement. Now 2 of my fav talking heads are going at it. Another W for Bron in pop culture. But was it right to say?
Feminists groups, where y’all at?
lol!!
Victim mentality equals mental slavery
-Black Guy here
I wonna know if Nike and Lebron have a slave mentality with how they pay those people making sneakers in Vietnam.
Lebron start a business hire me for $1 million a year and then let me do and say whatever I want regardless of if you approve or how it effects your company
Yup
Paying black employees a fortune
That’s just like slavery was
EDUCATION???? ...LEBRON DOESN'T HAVE EDUCATION
Like any business owner. It's their business, they are the boss, if you don't like it find another job. LeBron continues to open his mouth and remove all doubt.
The question is ...why is Lebron being pushed to talk about the NFL again?
What victims they are millionaires doing what they like ,is why nfl is amazing and whit parity,Doug is right Lebron : please is time to go to the school and get educated
I’ll go be a slave for league minimum right now
Please someone give me a Slaves contract omg I never knew the NFL was so tuff,please someone sign me up
Doug killed him with victim mentality part and the end when he said rob has become that guy who claims racism at everything. doug goatlieb ladies and gents.
Sad delusional
Wait until LBJ owns a team and a player won't walk the line.
If player make the ship go, than there are no $$$$ without the owners.
Rob Parker is Mr Victim Mentality...
No one in these comments are actually saying why Doug is wrong. They are just calling him an old white man. No one can actually articulate an argument against him
Amen Knowtech where did I say he was an old white man? You’re just proving my point
The NBA has an easier time between players and owners because there are way less players in the NBA. In the NFL you think every player is going to have a close relationship with the owner; no way. There are players that flood into the NFL every year so if you don't agree with a player it is easy to get rid of them. Not saying it is right or wrong; just stating what it is.
Lol, no dummy
@@car9melo What is it then?
Dam!!!!! I never knew Dave Winfield was drafted in 4 different sports!!!!! That is STUD STATUS PERSONIFIED!!!!!!!!!
lost every ounce of respect i had for Rob Parker...
All I heard was angry white man 😭😭
Will Jones nah
whites should boycott nba
Evil Morty lol yeah please do that .. basketball is watched by more countries 😂😂😂
And an angry whining black man
Facts 🔥 rob Parker...all the black and 100
Bron sound dumb but Gottlieb gotta go. Wheres Broussard?
Im not a Cap fan necessarily as a player, but he clearly was black balled. Doug brought up Mark Sanchez, I knew he had no argument.
The thing is, he's a professional victim that is more interested in complaining than coming up with a solution and asking others to join in.
LeBron don’t complain about slavery, you get paid millions from Nike yet they operate factory’s In China, Indonesia and Vietnam under horrendous working conditions. So stop already
The reason kap lost his job originally was because he got injured. Gabbert was starting while kap was recovering from that shoulder injury. Not because of poor play.
Bull shit Colin Kaepernick got released from the NFL for this protest.
@@michaelreid8548 he kap opted out of his contract aka he wanted to become a free agent instead of collecting his about 15 mill contract
@@justtimes9257 yea but why did the NFL black ball him because of what he did the protest
No he was benched for garbage play
Gotlieb is just lying and making shyt up!
"Why did he lose his job in san fran in the first place?" Lmao no answer needed argumnent over what a clown
No Parker! You come with the scars. I am not going to let the past deter me from being successful.
I totally disagree with Doug regarding baseball vs football. If you're good at baseball and better at football, play baseball. Longer career and able to maintain health. Don't be mislead by Doug. Football contracts are not fully guaranteed. Everyone doesn't have an agent/ deal like Kirk Cousins.
Bill Rhoden wrote a book called 40 million dollar slave. Read it. Come on people LeBron was speaking parenthetically at best. I do think it was an over reaction on LeBron's part. Two things I'm sure of LeBron's heart if not his words are in the right place and I believe he was speaking to the situation with Colin Kapernack. LeBron at least has the courage to speak his mind inappropriate as it may be at times which is more than I can say about the majority of athletes. Furthermore this whole thing about keep your mouth shut and just play is gutless beyond all words. If you can't speak up when you have money then when can you speak up? Talk about a slave mentally.
@greg taylor Ty for bringing up that book by Bill Rhoden of the New York Times. It is exactly what Lebron was meaning. Dougie G is a guy that has been privileged his whole life thats why he will steal credit cards from people and try to be transfer with no issues. He does not do the research but more importantly he selectively listen during a convo. Rob should have done a better job at responding to the lies that Dougie was saying like John Elway wanted to bring Kap on his team for a lower price, however that was before all of the controversy took place.
Lebron need his father in his life, i dont think he is mature yet either, Doug and Rob Parker i like that duo better.
I almost never agree with Rob but he isn’t lying at all.
Bron Bron was 100% correct!!!...but if the NBA didn't have guaranteed contracts, they would be sitting down and shutting the fuck up cause they wouldn't fuck up their money!!
Look at these dudes trying to cover for LeBron
Lebron James has never had a real job yet feels he is adept to speak about labor issues. Yeah, this is what happens when you worship...
Just because their is talk in a barbershop doesn't mean the talk is historic or true
He must really fantasize about being a slave. He is obsessed.
It’s sad to see a young man like LeBron James be so uninformed when he opens his mouth & says things like this. You have opportunities that many people dream about having and you play the victim. Wow!!! You are on the cusps of being a billionaire at an young age and you’re passing this kind of mind set on to people who are in need of hope and not to be told that they are victims.
The breast cancer awareness was to appeal to women who protest the NFL because they protect woman beating players. They only started addressing domestic violence seriously after the Ray Rice video.
It's not about the money....its about the perception!
There are alot of owners that dont care and trade or drop people for small reasons and blackball cap and did this guy just say cap is not blackballed and he isnt on a team cause he cant start but if you look at these starting qbs thats crazy he couldn't get a chance and then he contradicted himself when he said they might not want him kneeling.
Most jobs, hedl by NFL fans, are not guaranteed. Most NFL fans didn't pine away for Kaepernick to start for their team. Most NFL fans don't think about the anthem on a daily basis, but when everyone stands, most stand.
So if your boss fires you because your inept at your job makes him have slave mentality?? GTFOH!! Whats real slavery is the kids that make your damn sneakers Lebron...
Sorry Doug, you are wrong!!!!! Your are so blind.We see your true colors Doug!!!!!
Sherman loving life ...what are his true colors?
He's a white supremacist
He's right and your just being overly emotional.
James is an idiot
Guyrosc _ he’s Jewish you idiot
By the way Jewish people need to start having conversations with black people because there’s a lot of things going wrong.. that’s on the ownership and gatekeepers..
Slave mentality doesn’t mean the owners are slave. It’s a hyperbole as we ALL use on a daily basis. If I say my boss is a dictator does thet mean he is like Kim Jong Un ? Come on now.
People today think racism is simply calling another group some derogatory names. Nobody seems to know the definition of Race-ism. LeBron is right. Regardless of how he articulates it. He's speaking to the tradition of all white owners and controllers dictating to the all black young entertainers. They would prefer that these young black men not have an opinion, a vision, a perspective or a desire for ownership and control of their situation. That's what is being spoke of. It's not to insult white Americans. Or old white team owners. But let's study the history of ownership in America before we jump down LeBron James' throat. And most of all, learn the true and original definition of Race-ism to understand how and why a young black male would feel the way LeBron does.
controversy creates cash
Hey rob Parker,Eric Reid got a job and he protested as much as the clown did.
So why he isn’t blackballed.
Kaepernick can’t read defense and make throws, simple as that. The NFC championships he was involved with, truth be told, had more to do with SF’s O-line and Frank Gore than Kaepernick. Not to say he didn’t make plays, but by no means did he put the team on his back.
If he still played at a high level he’d be on the field, since at the end of the day winning cures all. Kaepernick doesn’t want to be anywhere near a football field believe that...
Doug is HEATED
Here come all the Djangos unchanined.
There's stupid....
then there's LeCon.
Sorry Doug, you are wrong!!!!!
@Felicia Thomas....how? Please explain
@@TheVilouboy Doug thinks "Slave mentality" means actual slavery. He's passionate about his something he knows nothing about. It's like Parker telling him to not be offended about the "Jewish money" thing when it's really not his place because he doesn't know the full knowledge of it. Also his history on Kaepernick is flawed.
@Faisal M....thank you for your opinion and I really appreciate it. Hopefully Felicia will respond and either support your argument or come with her own opinion.
But let me address your opinion, I believe that Doug as well as Rob, stated in the beginning the difference between "Slavery" and having a "Slave Mentality". Now there were points in the conversation where Doug went back and forth between the two but you have to take the entire topic into consideration.
Rob has a tendency to try and talk over people (watch any Undisputed, or listen to when Chris tries to speak) so I feel that Doug was getting frustrated with his ill mannered mannerisms and misspoke. So I feel being both passionate and frustrated about the sport as well as the horrible topic (either slavery or slave mentality) he's human and he's allowed to make a mistake.
Now again, if you listen to the entire broadcast, he ended with saying that they were talking about slave mentality, and not slavery.
I disagree with LeBron (agree with Doug), because at the end of the day this is a business. There are the people who run (bosses) the "Company" and the people who work (employees) for the "Company". You have to have a chain of command, everyone working for the company cannot have an equal share, as that would not make great business sense. I'm pretty sure you work for someone, and you have a boss.
Name me ANY company in the world, where you're not the CEO, that if you do not perform to the terms of your contract that another company will pick you up, knowing that you did not perform as your were obligated to do. If you fail to perform to the terms of your contract than you should be cut, and what Doug was saying is that see players are being payed millions of dollars to play a sport. If they (the employees/players) do not perform, then they just get reassigned (traded) to another company (team). So to say that these "Old White Men" have a slave mentality is ludicrous. Yes your "boss" is getting paid billions, but again, that's business.
Now I do believe that Kap is not in the league because of his protest against the injustice in our country (not SOLEY, but mainly). He's numbers/stats were/are better than some of the of the QBs that have been signed or brought out of retirement. And let's face it, he's not putting up Brees, Brady, Rodger numbers but just as Doug said in this day and age, if your significant other says that your potential boss, and legendary "Worker" are a racist/"Uncle Tom" then no, I wouldn't hire you either.
Ask yourself that question, if you owned a business, and a potential employee spouse called you a racist, would you hire that person?
As the old saying goes, "The Fruit doesn't fall too far from the tree".
@@TheVilouboy That's with one particular team his girlfriend (which Doug calls an idiot, that's unprofessional) said was racist which is the Ravens. Kaep is honestly better than a few starting QBs and A LOT of backups. The reason I have no respect for Doug Gottleib is he's not clear with admitting that Kaep would still be in the NFL if he weren't blackballed. He's saying his lack of skill was the reason he was benched (which is false, he was recovering from injury and was put as backup). LeBron's whole point isn't to say NFL players are slaves but they aren't given a proper right to speech, and are constantly being shut up for their opinions. They should be treated, atleast, like the ones who are selling tickets. They're the reason why we watch the NFL. They did a "random" drug test on Eric Reid last week. His 7th in 11 weeks. That isn't right. Lastly, this Doug is always just so wrong. He once sat on First Things First and tried to tell the crew that the NCAA is fair. No one in their right minds, unless they work in the NCAA commission, would make such an absurd proclamation.
@Faisal M....Thank you for your response.
So it's ok for LeBron, who is regarded as the face of the NBA, regardless of the PC version of the word used, to label someone "Old White Men/Slave Mentality" (basically calling them racist/PC version) that's not unprofessional but Doug who is not on the same level as a Skip, Stephen A, or Max Kellerman (and DEFINITELY not on a global level as LBJ) it's wrong to label ONE person an idiot, that's wrong? Gotcha.
In regards to him admitting about Kap being "Blackballed" start listening at the 11:00 mark, and particularly around 11:19.
* Yet again he couldn't make his point because, as usual, Rob interrupted because he doesn't have any manners.*
As he stated before, he isn't saying that the ENTIRE reason is that he a "Bad" player, he acknowledges that his actions are also playing a factor for him not playing in the NFL. The idea that he (Doug) isn't showing the same compassion (or using the word that would satisfy your "taste" which is blackballed) as others doesn't mean that he is completely dismissing that possibility.
Again, there are other players (as stated in this broadcast) who have voiced their opinion, in regards to the injustices in our country. Ray Lewis, and Shannon Sharpe both said, that there were other ways that he could've gone about it.
In regards to NFL players, again let's take this out of sports and apply it somewhere else. Let's say that I went to a LBGT rally, convention , or whatever, and I kneeled in front of the "Rainbow Flag" (a symbol of their organization), I would be persecuted as a "Gay Basher". Even though in the Bible it states (Leviticus 18:22) that homosexuality is wrong (or injust), if I go there and protest, I would globally persecuted.
(Kevin Hart was JUST told apologize, or lose your job hosting the Oscar)
So why is it the Old White Slave owners faults for running a company that makes billions of dollars, and try to keep their business "afloat" if they ban a member for speaking out injustices? That's any business owner, they do not want to bring negativity to their business. Just like if someone uses a racial slur, their fired. Or if they use a homosexual slur, they're not only fired but ye are branded a Gay Basher.
Again, I completely support Kap, and I think that what happened to him is one of the worse tragedies in modern sports (especially when the NFL allows drug dealers/rapist play) but when you disgrace the Symbol of our nation, many would view that worse than precious stated crimes.
As far as the NCAA, I agree that it's not fair, but again, let's look at it from the "10,000 foot view" those are STUDENT-ATHLETES, students first. Everyone is so concerned about the money that those kids should be getting (and rightfully so, you use my name, I should get paid) but I don't hear anyone talking who when a VAST majority of these young men cross over to the professional sport they can barely read/write. There are a few Richard Sherman, Tim Duncan but the number that graduated vs those just chasing a dollar doesn't even compare.
Where is your compassion for them then? Why take someone straight from High School (especially inner cities where education isn't a good as some of your suburban schools) straight to the pros? It's sad to see these young men cross over and not even have a college degree to fall back on because our society has become more infatuated with watching sports than watching a doctor conduct open heart surgery, or two lawyers debate in a courtroom to decide someone's future (innocent/guilty).
One more thing I forgot to add, in the beginning you said "ONE particular team". Yes there's 32 teams in the league, but ONE team was willing to give him a chance, so again to say that the ENTIRE NFL is Blackballing him is false.
Lastly. I didn’t see you say anything about the Jewish comment.
You never get white balled lol damn you go rob
Rob, you and LeBron are the people keeping this ignorant argument alive.
Rob Parker looked ridiculous on this one. He's spreading gossip and nonsense. Was embarrassing & zero facts to back up his original argument on nfl owners having slave mentality. I hope people like him can gain some amount of credibility back now that Trumps gone
" The players make the ship go"
Is he talking about a slave ship?
GET EM DOUG!!!
GIVE THIS MAN HIS OWN SHOW!!!!
What is "THE DOUG GOTTLIEB SHOW"???
He has his own show now.
Lastly was Tim Tebow white balled because he was a white out spoken Christian??? Heck no, he wasn't picked up because he sucked!
Doug Speaking so passionately speaking about things he doesn’t know anything about, people could argue that the Jewish Community should not be offended by Lebron Jewish money quote but as a black man I know I don’t fully understand the Jewish plight and if they see that it is offensive it is. Also he’s acting like he doesn’t understand the difference between actual slavery and slavery mentality! come on man
No hes not. Hes saying the comparison is retarded as fuck. Its an owner/ employee situation. Not a slave-owner/slave one. Hes also pointing out that the victim mentality is weak, and lacks any intellectual merit.
being openly racist to against white ppl is socially accepted now... all hidden behind the "but, your ancestors were horrible ppl" argument. and, to be completely honest, white ppl are starting to get really fucking sick of it. you can here the frustration in dougs voice.
Gotlieb is playing dumb!
@@roysears2919 exactly LBJ is just saying NFL players feel like property, nba players feel like partners. People being property is an aspect of slavery, anothwr aspect of slavery is limiting ones rights, like the right to protest.
@@johnblain1474 Its more like 16 million
LeBron should be the person to get things done in his sport, in society and other sports -and not complain about them - but he is coming to a cross road and must decided how is going to get this done and how he is going to perceived and if he cares. He can keep opening doors for others or he can start closing doors.