Stop Wasting Your Money on Down Jackets
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2024
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REI Jacket (women's): geni.us/DownHoodieW
REI Jacket (men's): geni.us/DownHoodieM
Decathlon Jacket: (women's): geni.us/Trekk100DownJacketW
Decathlon Jacket (men's): geni.us/Trek100DownJacketM
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Hey Justin, seems like your men's REI jacket link is broken.
but why do people keep buying Down Jackets? do you think people are newb
The Decathlon jacket is awesome! picked one up on clearance at the Calgary store for $50. Cannot be beat!!
Had the decathlon (in orange) for a couple of years and I love it. First down jacket I’ve had and I know there are much thicker warmer ones, but I’m amazed how warm this one is for something that disappears into its own pocket. Makes a nice little camping pillow too and doubles up as a little ‘booster’ quilt if my sleeping. A giant quite warm enough.
Great video. So far I've been happy with my $22 clearance 32° Heat Ultra-Light down jacket. The version I have is no longer made. The current version has much larger baffles and it looks like it uses a 650 synthetic down. Mine is 90% down/10% feathers and has been great. Keeping my torso warm down to -5°F (with a base layer and outer shell - Note: my body does run on the hot side of things)
Wish I'd known about these years ago. Great for portability and as backup layers to keep in a bag or vehicle.
While I already have an expensive down jacket that I love, I often wear lighter and more easily layerable alternatives for quick outings, or on warmer days.
I'd like to see how effective these things are at the current temps we're getting up north. About -20 C
The waist chinch on the Decathlon is the winning factor
Must be able to close the bottom from drafts
I purchased the synthetic version as I am in cold and wet conditions
I am very pleased with it
I needed to go one size larger for a comfortable fit
Wish I had a dime for every time you mention Decathlon's down jackets. They do deserve the hype; I have the women's version and love it!
How did you find the sizing?
@@sandrawillick6944 it's been accurate to the listed measurements IME. Not significantly smaller than many athletic brands in the US tend to run. I'm between sizes and usually end up with the bigger one in Decathlon clothes.
@@RegrettablyLongwindedsounds like both you and Justin are saying it runs slightly small
@@sandrawillick6944 I found it more than "slightly small". I gave the one I bought to my wife to wear...
I just got the Decathalon with the synthetic insulation and I found the sizing to be pretty spot on. I got a large and it fits well with room to layer at 6’ and 185lbs. Got some of their merino blend base layers for dirt cheap.
How warm is the synthetic trek 100?
I have a Trek 100 in down and synthetic. Both fantastic. I live in a damp climate (Ireland) so I prefer the synthetic for everyday use. If they had a chest pocket and a hood cinch, they’d be perfect.
Sizing is way off though. I wear a medium in most brands and X-Large for Decathlon.
Personally I really like the Helikon-Tex wolfhound hoodie with climashield instead of down. With only a long sleeve shirt underneath I did a 4 mile hike in below freezing temps and was extremely comfortable with its insulation.
Good timing! Was just looking at this jacket last night - cheers for the review
I recently purchased the Flash Insulated Hybrid Hoodie from REI and I love it! Great video as always, Justin!
Excellent comparison and review. Thank you!
awesome short video. more informative videos need to be this short. Was about to start skipping ahead at 3:30 secs but realized video was almost over. love it!
Always glad to see more Arizona footage.
When it comes to buying specialty products with varying levels of cost, there could definitely be a graph showing a steep upturn in cost in relation to smaller and smaller gain in utility. If you wanna be warm, that's cheap. When you wanna be warm, maximally comfortable, and have little tiny improvements that just barely matter, that costs.
Awesome! I’m excited to try it. I’m a natural medium but I may need to go Large on mine.
I'm in Australia, and unfortunately the Decathlon costs $169 which is a lot. A similar jacket here is the Macpac Uber Light, which is 300g and costs $110. I've got one, and it's good for 95% of AU use.
The Icefall is $400, still 300g but better down, and more of it. But I also like that I don't have to be as careful with the cheaper jacket.
Great vid. Not familiar with those jackets, but I absolutely LOVE my Outdoor Vitals down jacket.
My husband has both jackets and likes to layer the REI over the Decathalon. He should have gone with the XL on the Trek 100 as the cut is so different. Both have held up really well and perform well.
I have the Decathlon in black as my emergency car jacket. Splurged a month ago and bought a Fjrallraven Pack Hoodie also in black for around $214.
I got really good deal ordering from Montbell Japan. Their size is 1 smaller (i.e. I need to order L instead of US M), no tax, free shipping takes around 1-2 weeks. The JPY is relatively weak compared to USD and it's much cheaper than ordering from US store. I got Alpine Light (winter camping) and Superior Down (everyday wear) jackets together for $170 shipped!
That had to have been right at the lowest point of the yen last October!
have had a trek 100 for 2 years now and its still great,
Had my decathlon trek 100 for a couple of years now and it’s still doing well. Does well in UK temperatures. 👍
This video is timed perfectly I was going to order a large decathlon. Now I know to go xl
Thanks for the recommendation
Thanks for the review! I picked up the Decathelon XL. I love my Westcomb Tango hoody, but it's so clumsy to pack and the liner isn't tacked to the shell so there is material falling all over the place, unfortunately. Can't beat it for wicking though.
Hi Justin. Got a decathlon jacket at the start of winter here in Vancouver. It’s been awesome, and I love that it’s not super pricey. Had an Arcteryx cerium and I was always concern about damaging it.
Question for you: we need to buy some new waterproof stuff sacks for back packing. What would you recommend.
Decathlon seems to be a favorite brand of the channel. I hadn’t heard of it before.
I have the Decathlon, it's ace, feels a little thin but it does keep you warm unless it's very cold. And a nice feature is it packs away in it's own pocket (something they kept rather quiet about, oddly, I accidentally found that on one of Decathlon's videos, one of the pockets has a reversible zip so you can pack it into itself.
Was tempted by the bigger version MT500 - anyone tried that?
The REI jacket is more of a climbers jacket with the oversized hood that will fit over a helmet and 2 pockets on the inside of the coat that you can store water bottles in.
I own a fair number of Decathlon Jackets, normally see if I can get them in the sales, although here in the UK there are still cheap at the normal price. For sizing I would suggest getting a size larger than normal. They also sale a very cheap waterproof, that I carry just in case you get caught out. Cheers
Eastern Mountain Sports (EMS) Feather Pack. Stupid name, great jacket. Men’s medium hooded weighs 17oz and has 5oz hydrophobic 800FP down. 32gsm shell fabric. My 5 y/o model is a little lighter (15oz) and has 5.5oz DownTek, no inside stuff pockets but the packing pocket is big enough for a 1l bottle. Mine goes with me on every single trip, it gets cool enough at night in the summer that I need it.
Great review ..thx
I have the decathlon and it was horrible for wetting out really quickly even being new, I finally Nik waxed it with their downwash and down proof, also using the Nikwax TX direct spray on while on the last drying cycle from using the down proof. It is something everyone should do to that jacket
You should do more videos with your brother.
Just as I was finally getting a down jacket. thanks.
I had ordered a decathlon through Walmart but it didn't get here on time. Looking forward to possibly getting one in the future though
Decathlon also have a trek 500 that is warmer, also they are available with or without hood
They used to have one at Walmart for 29.95 from a brand called Royal Falcon, and it only weighed 9 ounces while being twice as warm as my MH Ghost Whisperer.
I think I prefer synthetic jackets at this point. Enlightened Equipment does the Torrid hoodie that’s warm, light, and one sheet of insulation so you don’t get cold spots. I also have an REI 2.0 down jacket sans hood that I got for sale for 50 bucks, and that’s ok.
Decathlon has their own synthetic jacket I think, and it's chesper than the Down one. A tad heavier, not sure if as warm tho.
Such a great and thorough review! I've been looking for a good jacket to easily travel with in my carry on luggage! Definitely going with Decathlon!!
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Justin, you've had the Decathlon for quite some time. How has the stitching on the seams held up? I have an off-brand jacket that I've used lightly for the last 4 years and the stitching has come out in a couple places.
Should I get the hooded or nonhooded version?
Nice video. I found Decathlon to be very nice just it fits small. I found I have to go two sizes higher than normal.
Justin, I love your channel so I say this with love: I'm not a fan of the new font / color scheme for text information! You can definitely see the care and thought put into the editing, but I've always appreciated the long-time font you've used for displaying information - I think you should stick to it :)
I have the Decathlon down jacket. Be aware of the sizes - In all my other jackets, I comfortably fit into a men's large. However, the Decathlon men's large was comically tight on me, and I had to buy the extra-large, which is comfortable, and not at all too large. I'm 5'10, 190 lbs.
Pockets are nice and deep, and it's well-made. However, I'm not too sure about the 850 fill... Jacket feels cooler than I expected.
Americans have different measure of CUIN. The same jacket in american units have 800 CUIN, while in EU it's only 660 CUIN.
Great and to the point video! While RDS certified down is obviously much better than non-RDS down, I would hardly call it ethically sourced. I found it quite interesting to read the standards it sets, and I find them way too loose for my personal preference.
something is still better than nothing and sets precedence for future improvements. as consumers, we decide with our dollar what we value
@@david333-v8x i completely agree. It is a significant improvement over the time when there was no standard at all. I was responding more to Justin's statement in the video that it was ethically sourced because it meets the standards.
If money is not a problem, and I just want the best, which one, or which brand do you recommend?
I love my Decathalon Trek 100. I bought it in Morocco. I sure wish Decathlon would open stores in the US. I have several other items that I love.
Thanks Justin.
Are the materials responsibly sourced?
what the brand of your jacket ?
I've been using a jacket called hawke company found at t.j. Maxx for like 20 bucks or something it's pretty warm its not bad
Warmth wise. People rave about the decathlon at 0c. Personally I’m in a much thicker down jacket. I think the decathlon down is maybe ok only at 7c.. it’s barely warmer then a thin fleece
You can’t compare the warmth of a 2cm thick down layer v 2 inch + of my propped down jackets
It’s about similar warmth to a north face red point. Primaloft… but primaloft better in windy conditions I think
Are they windproof?
The point that is important is the durability. The quality of stitches. Etc pp. The advantage of decathlon stuff is, they produce it themselves. This makes their products so unbelievable cheap compared to others. Cause they don't need to produce dislocated (low transport costs, taxes, no dependency on other companies to produce parts) etc. But - it would be interesting how long a decathlon jacket lasts compared to a Patagonia etc. I second your opinion in some way but also know that my most lasting stuff was always Patagonia. Decathlon stuff never lastet pretty long. Their trekking pants for example. Stitches get loose very soon after some time of usage. Etc. As i said, yes - their functionality might be equal but their durability might differ a lot. Cheers
Does anyone know what tent that is in the background?
Arcteryx all the way for me. Superb jackets
Great vid. I down waxed my Decathlon a couple of times, works perfectly 👍
Hey Justin, I noticed you didn't mention the MEC Radiator Lite Down Hoodie. At $186 cdn, it's about $136 us which is in the same ballpark as the REI ones. I know the U.S. market is much larger and you likely have more views perhaps from them, but as a Canadian I would hope you'd still include the Canadian options from stores like SAIL, MEC, Atmosphere, and Mountain warehouse that we have access to for potential budget options.
I really enjoy your content, don't take the criticism to hard on this. Just suggestions.
Neither is in stock anymore in UK :(
I got the uniqlo down jacket cuz it was on sale and it’s pretty dang warm
Hey Justin, the Decathlon website has the Trek 100 at 430g in Large. Is that wrong? You have it at 300g - you can confirm that? Thank you
I have the decathlon. It's brilliant
Ebay "down jacket" pick size any reputable brand ex. Eddie Bauer, LL Bean are some great budget outdoor brands with much to offer the casual or new coming outdoors enthusiast.
- Godspeed
Decathlon also have some very cheap, very lightweight fleeces, eg MH100.
Hi Justin, I appreciate your videos and I thank you!
BTW, i'm from Italy and I notice you (with many other people from US) pronounce the word "decathlon" with the accent to the "a": "decàthlon".
IMMO that's wrong/questionable :-). I know that the accent sounds "correct" in English language, but...
1- the word "decatlon" is Greek! (precisely is the concatenation of "deca" (meaning ten) and "thlon": deca-thlon.
if you want to pronounce "decathlon" in the original language you don't have to put any accent on the vowels, using just a FLAT (no-accents) speech like de-ca-thlon.
This is how we pronounce decathlon in Italy (and in Spain I guess).
2- On the other side, decathlon is a French brand, and you use Decathlon to specify this brand sport articles, as the nice cheap puffy jacket you enjoy. So, in French the word "decathlon" is pronounced with the accent to the last vowel, the "ò", like "Decathlòn".
IMMO, you can pronounce in this best option orders
Best: "decathlon" - (flat / no accent) a la Greek (latin/Italian) manner
Questionable: "Decathlòn" - (accent to the ò) a la French manner
Worst: "decàthlon" - accent to the à, a la English manner
Let me know what you think about.
BTW, back to the jacket product, jsut for your curiosity: there is an alpinistic version of the MT100 jacket, probably a bit better (and at a the same price!), but unfortunately not available for the USA market (as far as I understand) and i do not the reasons why. Decathlon mysteries!
Please do a video on the best water proof jacket?
I am going to get one of these jackets just to be my beater lol 😂 and keep my Eddie Bauer nice and clean lol 😂
The Decathlon is a copy of the Arc'teryx Cerium, which costs 4 times the price.
Decathlon are great. Sizing is a bit on the small size.
Eddie Bauer CirrusLite down jacket is $104 and also goes on sale for much lower and blows both of these jackets out of the water for value and warmth.
I m more interested in the cheaper one :-)
down to freezing ith a t shirt.. in dry cold conditions , certainly not humid cold conditions.
I purchased the Decathalon Trek 100 twice. Once directly from the manufacturer but I returned it when I saw it at Walmart for $20 less. While I like the jacket, I am wondering if anyone else has a jacket that has the zipper on the other side....which I assume is a result of being made outside of the U.S. Both jackets had the zipper on the opposite side. At 6'3" and 210 lbs........it's not because it's a woman's jacket either. Just curious.....
I really wish Decathlon made more of an effort to enter the US market. Opening two stores in San Francisco and then throwing in the towel just doesn't seem very inspired. I've never disliked a product i've bought from them. Bike parts, 60L bag, puffy, camp kit, it's always been good. Their online stock in the US has been really limited since they closed the SF locations a few years ago and we don't really have a retailer that's similar.
Shout out for the Tog24 DRAX MENS HOODED DOWN JACKET
I have the trek 100. But now we need a company to make a budget ultralight 1000fp down winter puffy.
Picked up a hoodless Trek 100 (I don’t like hoods much) for less than $70 AUD on clearance. 😊
Don’t have access to REI here, but Decathlons returns policy is excellent.
Do these jackets have decent zippers on them??
I got the synthetic version of the trek 100.
As a homeless guy I oppose any down, it can cost you your life when wet.
Better set up:
-merino whool underwear
-polar fleece mid layers (2 thins is better than 1 thick), with colars
-synthetic thin bodywarmer with colar
-membrane rain jacket with hood and zip pits
-use with beanie, buffs, gloves (and perhaps rain mitts), and gators
Layer your head, neck, body, legs and feet, depending on situation.
Don't get wet & best don't sweat.
What is better than Justin ? Two Justin's ! Hell yeah !
What about the MEC Radiator Lite Down Hoodie! Gotta rep that Canadian gear! haha
Maybe if they dropped the price in half. haha
I love REI products because as someone who doesn't go outdoors a lot anymore but still loves to, the value proposition makes a lot more sense than getting an extremely expensive Arcteryx or Patagonia piece. But, let's not fool ourselves here. As someone who owns Arc, Pata, and REI products, the REI products are simply not as good, especially against Arc. Arc materials are simply out-of-this world, and their specialized pieces are really, really good. I'm content to wear the Arc pieces I have remaining until they give out, then replace with REI products as I don't go out hiking as much anymore. You have to know which market segment you're in!
That Decathlon looks like a great deal. I have a cheap Eddie Bauer that I’ve loved and finally burned a hole in it.
I got one of those a costco for like $40
The first house i purchased i had mortgage with an 18% interest rate.
Historically, 6-7% has been a "normal" interest rate. The problem is that the houses are OVERPRICED.
Even better for me: Uniqlo Ultralight Down Parka with 10D face fabric, DWR, and 750 fill power for $60 CAD (45% discount on last season). That’s $44 USD.
I guess these jacket s were on sale when this video campout, but now they are back to full price.
The Decathlon Jacket is 35$ In Europe
Say what you want, but 32 degrees makes some of the best inexpensive base layers, clothes, and jackets out there!! You pay about 20-40$ for a jackets that keeps you WARM! I love 32degrees and everything I have bought from them, and no I don’t work there!😀
I'm 6'4 230 top heavy.
Will a xl fit?
Probably need an XXL
I got an experience down jacket w the square baffle and I was not impressed .
Almost 300 $
Went back to my old one , better construction,warmer ,half the price and will last longer than the one I just bought .🙄
Big names don't mean you get what you pay for sometimes .lol
It´s dEcathlon and not decAthlon, the stress on the "E". Similar as in "Decade" (a 10-years-period). Decathlon means "a ten-works-accomplishment" or "a ten-disciplines-accomplishment".
I got a Patagonia sweater down for $125 at rei
Eddie Bauer Cirrus Lite can often be found at Costco for $40-60. Surprised no one ever mentions this.
Taion isn't quite as cheap but offers similar value, in a more streetable style
Was really hoping this would by a synthetic options review. I want to stay warm without the animal suffering.
You can't beat a 7-800 fill down jacket for warmth to weight ratio
Justin, Decathalon website states 800fp, not 850
That is based on the European system of measurement which results in the number being ~50-100 CUIN lower. Most of my audience is more familiar with products that use US measurements, so I adjusted the number for comparability.
@@JustinOutdoors would you say then Rab and Mammut also then have higher fill vs what’s posted on their website since they are UK and Swiss?
What about Japanese montbell?