Joan Franka - You And Me - Live - 2012 Eurovision Song Contest Semi Final 2

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    The Netherlands: Joan Franka - You And I - Live - 2012 Eurovision Song Contest Semi Final 2

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  • @janineamsterdam4873
    @janineamsterdam4873 Рік тому +214

    At a Dutch TV show ''better than ever'' today (as if 13th april 2023) she opened up about horrible things happened to her through this whole Eurovision adventure.
    Her manager claimed her from the beginning they met (she was a soft girl who was afraid to say no etc). At one point she even was living in the house of her manager. She was claimed by the manager and did everything what that person wanted. Very unhealthy en psycho situation. The manager also said more than once that she is too fat. Quote in the Dutch National Final ''look at all those contestents, they look all so good en skinny, this is how it should be''. At the songcontest, she even didnt wanted to wear that hat with feathers, but she was forced, of course by her manager and the team behind it. She also was taken away from her family as much as possible by the manager while the whole Eurovision contest, while she was begging to see her family/mother more. 1 minute before her live performance in the semi-final the manager was saying to her (backstage): ''This is the moment we worked for, it's you and me''. That was the moment the opened her eyes and saw in which unhealthy/psycho ''relationship'' she was with her manager. And she thought: ''What am I doing here? I dont want to be here, this is not who i am''. Because this wake-up call happened literally seconds before her performance in the semi final she was singing bad, not in tune, etc.. After the show and the obvious not qualify she came back in the room where her manager also was, and the manager screamed: ''YOU RUINED EVERYTHING''. Later she was going to her hotel room, throwing up, feeling horrible and she even thought she would die at some point. She had a telephone (all the members of the team had it for emergency things that could happen) and she called on that phone, but nobody picked up, on purpose, because it was just after that semi final where she was eliminated. She never felt so alone at that point.
    After the whole Eurovision thing, her manager was holding her at her contract, so she couldnt go away and wasn't allowed to music. The manager was doing this to punish her because of what happened at Eurovision and only said that she can buy herself free, but the amount of money needed was extreme high, and she couldn't afford it. After sometime, someone else was ''buying her free'' (sounds scary but at the same time so corresponding with this whole horrible story).
    After that she had a very bad name, media en people called her a ''crow not singing in tune'' (its a Dutch saying for singing out of tune to the max). Because nobody was knowing the true story why this all happened. Her trust and future was ruined by this. She even became an alter-ego, and used another name because she was scared people will recognize her as ''Joan Franka from Eurovision''.
    At this TV show where she finally opened up and said the truth, she was singing as herself for the first time since long''. She is completely ruined by soms toxic people of the industry, and a part of her life is ruined because if it. She was living with this secret for so long.. poor girl. Meanwhile everybody had a bad opionion about her, because they didnt know the truth.
    In the end, it was almost like a ''smart played'' hostage of her while she didnt saw that because of her soft and going with the flow character if you ask me. Evil and criminal of the people (manager) who did this.
    Spread the word, and give Joan Franka the Justice she deserves

  • @piertx
    @piertx Рік тому +77

    So sad to hear what happend to her, nothing including the clothes was her choice so if you are offended by that blaim the management she was stuck with who treated her horrible.

    • @willowivory7650
      @willowivory7650 9 місяців тому +1

      Im just hearing about this. What happened?

    • @ijakejobs7006
      @ijakejobs7006 8 місяців тому +2

      @@willowivory7650 She was pressured by her management team: She did everything they said, was not allowed to have family nearby, was ridiculed for her appearance and her opinion didn't matter.

    • @helenaterschegget8791
      @helenaterschegget8791 4 місяці тому +1

      Ik begrijp gewoon niet eens waarom ze haar zo’n indianen tuig op wilden doen, dit hele lied doet zo on-Nederlands.. echt zo vreemd.

    • @JamesBrownTolik
      @JamesBrownTolik 3 місяці тому

      @@ijakejobs7006 все одно я дуже люблю цю пісню❤

    • @dramaticScar
      @dramaticScar 24 дні тому

      Just spit balling here… but I think the management team was trying to make her look a young cher

  • @nova0000
    @nova0000 9 місяців тому +20

    There is something so heartbreaking about this performance when you've learned what she went through. Maybe it's the positive message of this song and the need of having to portray it when you're just not okay, not being able to be sad and having to hold it in. I feel like I'm be projecting but it hurts to see. Really just want to give her a hug.

  • @etacarinea4536
    @etacarinea4536 4 роки тому +27

    I was obsessed with this song and this performance when i was 11. i sang it all summer after eurovision and i even made a cover of it. i miss that times.

  •  10 років тому +151

    Very sweet, emotional and nostalgic song, it's my fav entry from the Netherlands, it hurted to not see her at the Grand Final, i'm getting tired to see this unfairness all the years.

    • @Tomek-mf2ln
      @Tomek-mf2ln 6 років тому +5

      Are you deaf?

    • @sunmiswashingmachine
      @sunmiswashingmachine 3 роки тому +3

      I'm both azerbaijani and I live in the netherlands and omg I would have felt bad for my azerbaijani people if they had to listen to this song one more time and I feel bad for the Dutch people that they were represented with this song in my native country

  • @SloPx2
    @SloPx2 12 років тому +28

    I'm so sad it didn't qualify. This song plays on the strings of a heart. I cannot understand how Europe couldn't feel it.
    Joan, you're my winner of the night. 12 points from Slovenia.

  • @huntingclaw9100
    @huntingclaw9100 10 років тому +32

    I really like this one

  • @turklerinortaktarihi9182
    @turklerinortaktarihi9182 Рік тому +13

    This was such a cute and adorable song and performance! The Azerbaijanis in the Crystal hall seemed to love this song, they all vibed to it🥰

  • @ronweasley6585
    @ronweasley6585 6 років тому +141

    I remember when I cried for this didn’t qualify

  • @nauportus90
    @nauportus90 11 років тому +10

    this was such a beautiful and emotional performance. I get chills everytime I watch this clip.

  • @clyde_45td
    @clyde_45td 7 років тому +135

    Had the worst position of the semi but still came 10th in televoting. It was the jury who didn't like it

    • @therektfactory
      @therektfactory 7 років тому +3

      CinnamonSwirl exactly, I think its still the best song the Netherlands had after the song of the common linnets

    • @leahrowden3939
      @leahrowden3939 5 років тому +4

      The juries should’ve liked it as well. Not just the people who voted by calling or texting.

    • @theresnogoingbackk
      @theresnogoingbackk 4 роки тому +1

      Since when is 3rd position the worst? That applies for the second one

    • @wystxrr
      @wystxrr 4 роки тому

      She didn’t come last in the semi!

    • @theresnogoingbackk
      @theresnogoingbackk 4 роки тому

      @@wystxrr they meant she had the worst running order/position

  • @henriklarssoneurovisioncha6515
    @henriklarssoneurovisioncha6515 10 днів тому

    12 years later , I love her voice and I ADORE her eyes !! She is so beautiful

  • @hecgravi4410
    @hecgravi4410 7 років тому +5

    such a injustice!!!! one of the best entries ever!!!!

  • @pimmagrimm
    @pimmagrimm 12 років тому +2

    It may not have made the finals but nothing will ever take away what a wonderful ditty this is. Now it's up to the Eurovision fans to keep this song alive in their hearts for many years to come.

  • @pedrocastro5327
    @pedrocastro5327 12 років тому +5

    This song and her voice are beautiful!! I love it

  • @Alex4u
    @Alex4u 12 років тому +24

    the crowd was really supportive. It must be a huge experience for Joan! well done for writing this beautiful song and giving a strong performance.

  • @Ro-qk2bn
    @Ro-qk2bn 4 роки тому +13

    The way she looks in the camera, so sweet

  • @hundoria6744
    @hundoria6744 7 років тому +39

    omg no one can guess how much i love this entry

    • @nasakocommentaccount8110
      @nasakocommentaccount8110 7 років тому

      hi

    • @hundoria6744
      @hundoria6744 7 років тому +1

      +Nasako Comment account oh hi lol

    • @hundoria6744
      @hundoria6744 7 років тому +2

      +Nasako Comment account as you can see, iallowed everyone to see which video i liked. I will only like if i want listen to it forever and ever, when i like something, it will save it.

    • @Jessica-ht5te
      @Jessica-ht5te 7 років тому +2

      i would like UA-cam to add option to like and to THIS IS MY FAVOURITE because I like every good video but I have some videos that I like more and so much and I need to make difference between them but I will be sad if I do not like the video bc i always like every good video so i would really like UA-cam to invent that button.

  • @Fabi14lol
    @Fabi14lol 12 років тому +3

    Joan, you're way better than most of the contestants in this year's contest. Stay true to yourself and be proud of what you did, because you were amazing tonight!

  • @telemoveis6859
    @telemoveis6859 9 років тому +85

    The countries may not have voted for you, but you had my full support!

    • @therektfactory
      @therektfactory 7 років тому +6

      IKEAPanda:D she got voted 10th by the countries, but the jury fucked her over

  • @jfln1
    @jfln1 Рік тому +12

    So sad the history of this performance, she felt so Bad because the tv team of her country don't let her family Saw her in baku, and after the results of the semi, her tv team hated her

  • @ttarimax
    @ttarimax Рік тому +4

    We love her ❤️

  • @hundoria6744
    @hundoria6744 7 років тому +13

    YAS BEAUTIFUL I LOVE IT SO MUCH

  • @esclux5353
    @esclux5353 8 років тому +74

    This is pretty cute :D

  • @acamel4853
    @acamel4853 6 років тому +8

    this song is one of the most adorable in esc

  • @JamesBrownTolik
    @JamesBrownTolik 3 місяці тому +2

    Зараз 2024 рік а я все так само люблю цю пісню як і раніше❤❤❤

  • @portakalsuyu.official
    @portakalsuyu.official 10 років тому +43

    This song is AMAZING.... I think as this song was a song of an American singer than was this a HIT! not fair...

  • @bennypappas4701
    @bennypappas4701 9 років тому +144

    .

  • @noelmcmahon3407
    @noelmcmahon3407 5 років тому +4

    I love this song and it is so cute and it should have won the Eurovision song contest

  • @leeana6394
    @leeana6394 9 років тому +7

    I remember her from the Voice of Netherlands. I quite like her.

  • @Scheherasad
    @Scheherasad 2 роки тому +11

    why is she wearing a warbonnet on her head? What has this song to do with native americans?

    • @dramaticScar
      @dramaticScar Рік тому +2

      She is wearing it because she used to play indians with the boys she is singing about...
      This info is not ambiguous to anyone

    • @lillyy3470
      @lillyy3470 4 місяці тому +1

      I heard that she didn't had a choice and was force to wear that.

  • @sylvain173
    @sylvain173 8 років тому +10

    good song

  • @Caperpeace
    @Caperpeace 11 років тому +3

    It's so... lovely. It would have deserved not only the final, but winning the whole bloody contest. Greatings from Hungary. :)

  • @0008Seconds
    @0008Seconds 5 років тому +47

    From this to arcade

  • @gokhanemre58
    @gokhanemre58 10 років тому +80

    She is Turkish-Dutch.

  • @leahrowden3939
    @leahrowden3939 5 років тому +3

    So beautiful.

  • @kitchentileniall
    @kitchentileniall 12 років тому +6

    I'm not sure if I like the sound of her voice, but I really like this song! She should have gone through to finals.

  • @DiegoNoDreams
    @DiegoNoDreams 11 років тому +8

    Her voice is fantastic.

  • @Gbeal
    @Gbeal 8 років тому +119

    she was robbed

    • @antonjakobhaep960
      @antonjakobhaep960 6 років тому +1

      Gbeal Agreed. The best songs get robbed most of the time...

    • @Tomek-mf2ln
      @Tomek-mf2ln 6 років тому +14

      Did you hear her singing or are you deaf.

    • @bryan8718
      @bryan8718 5 років тому +2

      Get some new ears

  • @purplehorsy
    @purplehorsy 12 років тому +1

    autenthic song with a sincere voice, such a young talent to write the lyrics and melody by herself.

  • @fossytecpue
    @fossytecpue 12 років тому +1

    THIS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING THAT DESERVES TO GO TO THE FINAAAL!! I CRIED!!

  • @Szokell
    @Szokell 9 років тому +74

    Still sad that this song didn't go to the final, is so sweet and catchy ;( and is way better than the 2015 dutch entry.

    • @theFOF
      @theFOF 9 років тому +4

      I agree, Joan wasn't that bad. Except for the false notes... I hope Trijntje fails for The Netherlands this year. I'm such a hater and actually I'm from the Netherlands xD

    • @Szokell
      @Szokell 9 років тому

      degoudenkoo1 I ussed to like Trijntje but I think his song is really bad. After Anouk and The common linnets I thought that this will be the year of the Netherlands but when I heard the song I think that isn't even top 10 material.

    • @theFOF
      @theFOF 9 років тому

      Szioff Yes, Trijntje normally makes good songs. But her eurovision entry is such a bad pop song. And the weird thing is that Anouk wrote that song for her. I really doubt if she'll get high results for the Netherlands. Ps: Where are you from :)?

    • @morbidsearch
      @morbidsearch 7 років тому +1

      JulianZization She was 15th

    • @antonlatour
      @antonlatour 7 років тому

      Countrymuziek

  • @gore2006
    @gore2006 11 років тому

    this song is gorgeous. deserved the final, it's a song I can actually listen to when it comes on my ipod, whenever and wherever!! makes me smile :)

  • @escfranckvalencia
    @escfranckvalencia 4 місяці тому

    This song is BEAUTIFUL

  • @raf66x
    @raf66x 11 років тому +3

    Absolutely wonderful song , cheerful , spontaneous , really deserves a high ranking in the final ! Who in addition to Joan got a big applause from the audience ? Probably only Sweden . I do not know on what basis ''professional'' jury rated it so low , while the Maltese song pretty shoddy and chaotic Georgian song was highly. Well , it only confirms the assumption that the people who sit on the jury have nothing to do with music . I personally think it's one of better songs of this contest .

  • @MrPervin4
    @MrPervin4 12 років тому +1

    Best song... I like....

  • @TamyDee
    @TamyDee 12 років тому +1

    This song is beautiful!

  • @dendrama
    @dendrama 11 років тому

    i love this song.....
    so much...joan franka...u r the best...

  • @thesnesgeek
    @thesnesgeek 8 років тому +31

    The lyrics makes up for the mediocre voice, the sweetest lyrics this year and possibly of all time.

    • @NewLegend1998
      @NewLegend1998 7 років тому +7

      Yes! So heartwarming. I love the song and I don't care about the not-so-good-singing.

    • @thesnesgeek
      @thesnesgeek 2 роки тому

      @@NewLegend1998 I realized mediocre is a better word than not-so-good.

  • @ko1obokrfmn
    @ko1obokrfmn 12 років тому

    The best song on eurovision this year, Joan was really amazing
    greetings from Belarus

  • @ESCBaku
    @ESCBaku Рік тому +2

    So cute performance, Eurovision didn't deserve this masterpiece, that's why she didn't qualify.

  • @lovenikkidressupqueenmaste5664
    @lovenikkidressupqueenmaste5664 6 років тому +2

    This song is long lost song for me i just searched it everywhere and then i was just 4 years old and i didnt know what was eurovision

  • @brammetje84
    @brammetje84 12 років тому

    Joan, you'll be missed in the final! You were great, you still are. Cant wait for your album!

  • @dominiquezillmer-stumpe5530
    @dominiquezillmer-stumpe5530 Рік тому +1

    Her Performance was so good Espacially If you hear what her Management have done to her this Had to qualify Back in 2012

  • @ratijichonaia97
    @ratijichonaia97 11 років тому +1

    Greetings from Georgia ! i love u Joan ! xxxxxx

  • @LexMonsterNo1
    @LexMonsterNo1 12 років тому +2

    01:55 - My heart melted down... SO CUTE!!!

  • @Senoritacowper
    @Senoritacowper 11 років тому +1

    I love this song and this day I was so sad when she didn´t qualify for the final :(
    Now I´m still in love with this song ^^

  • @djdreamyboy8804
    @djdreamyboy8804 6 років тому +3

    This song was so cute ! I love it very much and i have it on my phone too :D I liked her and this song makes me happy and anyone who say anything else can go to hell :D

  • @konstantinosademi5472
    @konstantinosademi5472 5 років тому

    It'a just so cute ànd adoràble🥰🥰🥰😍😘😘😍😍

  • @commentor3485
    @commentor3485 3 роки тому +9

    In the USA, her outfit would have been considered cultural appropriation. (Why does the Netherlands incorporate so much American culture in their entries, 2014 and 2018 entry were very country music inspired)

  • @brammetje84
    @brammetje84 12 років тому +1

    To all people from Germany, Estonia, Turkey, UK, Lithuania, Norway,Slovenia and Sweden (these countries gave points to the Dutch entry). THANK U so much for your support!

  • @ΧρηστοςΚουτσος-ξ4μ

    So cute performance ❤️
    She deserved to qualify!

  • @jeltehuizing1801
    @jeltehuizing1801 12 років тому

    she is a great singer and the song is brilliant,

  • @igormoshynskyy2289
    @igormoshynskyy2289 7 років тому +1

    This is my winner!!!😍❤😙

  • @peacertr
    @peacertr 12 років тому

    Netherlands and Slovakia did not deserve this. This song had to be in final. Greetings from Turkey.

  • @haraldIIhardrade
    @haraldIIhardrade 12 років тому

    it is good music

  • @teymurmahmudov4646
    @teymurmahmudov4646 7 років тому +3

    my winner

  • @Frankie_M
    @Frankie_M Рік тому +9

    You can see that she was doing this against her will 😢

  • @ManweruEmanuilov
    @ManweruEmanuilov 12 років тому

    Best song ever

  • @NightHeaven000
    @NightHeaven000 12 років тому

    I feel proud for her. Superb song.

  • @hildasvensson5058
    @hildasvensson5058 12 років тому +1

    I love!!!❤

  • @buraktjaa34
    @buraktjaa34 12 років тому

    you might not like this particulair performance, but the Netherlands has had some really awesome entries, and never made it to the finals, they aren't liked it's the truth. and actually everyone is loving this song right, now you can read the comments yourself. she was better than some people in the finals

  • @wiebe20
    @wiebe20 12 років тому

    I'm from the netherlands and i hat this song.
    I'm happy

  • @jesperhjellnes5861
    @jesperhjellnes5861 11 років тому +1

    Voted for this last year.
    But I'm very happy that Netherlands qualified this year :-)

  • @ignasstelmokas709
    @ignasstelmokas709 12 років тому

    SHE is BEST for me if you agree thumbs up

  • @KingCoatimundi
    @KingCoatimundi 12 років тому +1

    Listen, this song came from her childhood. Honestly, her outfit was rediculous but it is supposed to fit the song. Watch the music video. And she was not screaming, off key, or fat.

  • @hallaskjerah
    @hallaskjerah 12 років тому

    THE BEST SONG FROM THE NETHERLANDS EVER

  • @luisleigh
    @luisleigh 12 років тому +1

    So cute. This was too good for Eurovision. The song, actually, is very good, with good lyrics and vocal and it reminds me American folk music.
    It's quite a compliment not going to the finals.
    Greetings from Brazil =)

  • @saniosantos7367
    @saniosantos7367 5 років тому +5

    I still love and listen to this! Should've qualified over Malta...

  • @RuiMFC
    @RuiMFC 11 років тому

    I start smiling when I listen this song!

  • @buraktjaa34
    @buraktjaa34 12 років тому

    Definetely deserved final ~ its sooooooooooo catchy

  • @TheLifeisaprize
    @TheLifeisaprize 12 років тому +1

    I was shocked. this song was amazing. It was waaaay better than lithuania , ukraine . This song was the one of the best songs of the night. You have an amazing voice Joan . You are winner in my heart ..

  • @monsterjoel97
    @monsterjoel97 12 років тому

    I'm from Sweden and I really like this!

  • @86sonata
    @86sonata 12 років тому

    I'm Lithuanian and a just LOVE this song!

  • @Petrarka122
    @Petrarka122 12 років тому

    so nice song :(

  • @aitor1835
    @aitor1835 4 роки тому +17

    This song is a underrated

  • @cancevik34
    @cancevik34 12 років тому

    talented,beautiful girl and good country music .. she deserved final.. but this is not a music contest .. congratulations joan ..

  • @klarinetta
    @klarinetta 4 роки тому +3

    2nd half of this performance much better than the 1st

  • @8p2ysmi1e03
    @8p2ysmi1e03 12 років тому

    This song makes me warm :) I love it.

  • @kenanbabazade4476
    @kenanbabazade4476 12 років тому

    i love you joan franca

  • @THEKINDERMAN
    @THEKINDERMAN 12 років тому

    I really loved this song, probably my favourite in the second semi final
    - United Kingdom

  • @oyunaskieurovision
    @oyunaskieurovision 5 років тому +3

    This i think certainly top join from The Nedherlands

  • @sorayagabrielaperezzambran4344
    @sorayagabrielaperezzambran4344 6 років тому +5

    I don't know why I think she looks like Aisel. Anyway, I think that Joan deserved qualifying (and Aisel too)

    • @dogukan450
      @dogukan450 5 років тому +1

      Because she is half-Turkish. Aisel is Turkish too. (Azeris are Turkic)

  • @graptis96
    @graptis96 12 років тому

    She's wonderful!!! greetings from Greece!!! :)

  • @Ickemans
    @Ickemans 12 років тому

    i think she is GREAT!!!

  • @thomasalber8609
    @thomasalber8609 6 років тому +3

    U.K
    10 points!
    Or is it 12
    It's 12... O.K
    12 points to the Netherlands, love this song, and deserved to win!

  • @sdr3001
    @sdr3001 12 років тому

    Well I still like her. That's 1 new fan she made. I'm sure I'm not the only one :D

  • @MsPummelfee
    @MsPummelfee 12 років тому

    WINNER OF HEARTS!!

  • @AlexHWalker
    @AlexHWalker 12 років тому

    I don't care about the fact she didn't make the final anymore... Just by Joan competing I discovered her music and I am definitely richer for it.

  • @rebelheart8181
    @rebelheart8181 7 років тому +2

    12 points from 2017