GOAT CYL?! Brave Robin, Felix, Bernadetta, & Alfonse Rankings

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  • @Oblivionknight
    @Oblivionknight 4 місяці тому +107

    The #1 thing people underestimate with Felix is Slaying 2. We've seen how ridiculous this effect is all year with the Marth Ring. And the thing is Felix can get Slaying 3 permanently with the Marth Ring. It creates insane consistency with large Specials like AoEs, Miracle, and even Aether funny enough. And it will only get stronger as new specials come out and new Emblem rings, which all work with Specials.

    • @FEH
      @FEH  4 місяці тому +17

      What can I say. IS loves you 😁

    • @Oblivionknight
      @Oblivionknight 4 місяці тому +19

      @@FEH *They love my wallet

    • @michelangelobariletti3000
      @michelangelobariletti3000 4 місяці тому +9

      And we just got Panette with Gerik's refine for free :)

    • @professortoybox
      @professortoybox 4 місяці тому +2

      I like Felix, but I was surprised when someone used him against my AR-D, and he wasn’t able to kill my +10 Bedel. Even with color advantage, Felix only took about 40% of her health.

    • @assassin101c
      @assassin101c 4 місяці тому +3

      Yeah I'm planning to run him as a wings of mercy beacon with marth ring, proccing 2 AoE specials.

  • @arcanemaster8722
    @arcanemaster8722 4 місяці тому +36

    I could see an ice tribe banner both giving Hrid’s frozen status and also divine ice. Very much looking forward to that

    • @felicepompa938
      @felicepompa938 4 місяці тому +4

      We thought the same with the Wind Tribe Banner, but no dodge based divine vein Wind happened

    • @avavago
      @avavago 4 місяці тому +7

      @@felicepompa938 That's an entirely different vein effect and it would've dropped just a few weeks after CYL even introduced veins in the first place. Dropping more Ice vein units so soon after this CYL also seems unlikely though, despite how fast skill creep has been going this year.
      I think it's more likely they'll throw it on one of the remaining Book 8 mythics or a new Emblem, it only took 5 months for Lumera to put Corrin's pebbles to shame after all.

    • @chamow2787
      @chamow2787 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@avavago i hate lumera with my soul for this, but at the same time who could hate lumera

    • @Glace_to_the_face
      @Glace_to_the_face 4 місяці тому +1

      @@arcanemaster8722 I think the next time we’ll see the ice effect is the Corrin emblem ring

    • @noahcarroll4944
      @noahcarroll4944 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Glace_to_the_face Fast forward to now, and we already have another one 😂

  • @stormshadowoffire
    @stormshadowoffire 4 місяці тому +8

    The fact these units will get a refine before dancers is crazy to me

  • @geno_xi
    @geno_xi 4 місяці тому +24

    I picked Bernie because I genuinely love how unique that support is. So far she nukes hard and has been very worth the pick!

    • @tharmir
      @tharmir 4 місяці тому

      Bernie in theory is "ok", in practice is a monster that 5+77x4 any enemy

  • @erikshoe6441
    @erikshoe6441 4 місяці тому +20

    I love that I went into the spark wanting everyone but Bernadetta and I ended up getting only her.

    • @Typical_Tyeus
      @Typical_Tyeus 4 місяці тому +2

      Lol try wanting at least a copy of everyone while going for spark and then getting 6 copies of Brave Robin and nothing else 😅

    • @luizeduardo1706
      @luizeduardo1706 4 місяці тому +2

      I got 2 copies of everyone but now i have a +6 Bernadetta without trying. Praying to age like wine.

    • @erichp9896
      @erichp9896 4 місяці тому +2

      I went for double spark and got only 1 alfonse

    • @cloudunderweather9554
      @cloudunderweather9554 4 місяці тому +2

      she's the only one of the 4 that even has a chance of killing emblem ike, so theres that.

  • @Exiled28
    @Exiled28 4 місяці тому +29

    Inb4 worst units of book VIII: Brave Alfonse edition lol

    • @illialidur8244
      @illialidur8244 4 місяці тому +9

      Remember this prediction, Joel. In 11 months we may need to reference it.

    • @FEH
      @FEH  4 місяці тому +4

      I have documented and saved the message 😁

  • @FrancisDashwood1
    @FrancisDashwood1 4 місяці тому +4

    I guess I don't regret getting all of them then. Since they all seem really solid. And I even got an extra Alfonse. So I definitely know who will be getting his skills hehe. Great analysis and video!

  • @laggalot1012
    @laggalot1012 4 місяці тому +7

    I picked Alfonse, because he's my kind of entertaining jank, but I definitely don't think he's gonna be top of the meta. The nature of this kind of ramp-up is simply that it is slow and there is no real way around it.
    I just think accumulating upwards of 30 permanent stats on allies and 60 on self is very funny.

  • @Typical_Tyeus
    @Typical_Tyeus 4 місяці тому +8

    Alfonse is going to consistently see significantly more success if you pair him with Mila in light season. He really does need the extra turn from what my testing has shown.

    • @gg.tacticsadvance
      @gg.tacticsadvance 4 місяці тому +2

      In astra season you can pair him with X!Micaiah and Eikthynir to guarantee +9 visible Atk/Def, and possibly +9 visible Res if you give him +6 res from someone support. In my matches in AR-O, I can just waste the first turn to get the free bonus and then smack foes easily holding an +17 Atk/Def/Res after the first proc of MoaK. (+6 from supports, +3 from Eikthynir, +4 Start of Turn Great Talent, +4 Special Proc). And at EP, he will have DVS granting him +6 Def/Res, and DR against specials. It's just too good.

    • @gg.tacticsadvance
      @gg.tacticsadvance 4 місяці тому +1

      Just to make clear, I can consistently enter a battle with +40 in combat bonus do def with enough support at turn 1 EP.

    • @FEH
      @FEH  4 місяці тому +3

      It’s amazing how much value Mila has gained recently

    • @rexmon2592
      @rexmon2592 4 місяці тому +1

      Why is Alfonse good with Mila? Is it just bc of the extra turn?

    • @ryanvonhresvelg4317
      @ryanvonhresvelg4317 4 місяці тому

      ​@@rexmon2592yup

  • @Elie053
    @Elie053 4 місяці тому +21

    I picked Felix but there all great picks😁, this video came out at great time while I'm studying for my test 😅.

    • @riwmi2302
      @riwmi2302 4 місяці тому +6

      Goodluck on that test. Rally Up Luck+

    • @sexyginge1088
      @sexyginge1088 4 місяці тому

      @@Elie053 they're * Sorry

    • @ryanvonhresvelg4317
      @ryanvonhresvelg4317 4 місяці тому +1

      @@riwmi2302 That was really creative and cute lol

  • @PoyowenPoyo
    @PoyowenPoyo 4 місяці тому +4

    I was really hyped for Bernadetta this year as she was the first unit I ever voted for that actually won, but I can't help but be bummed out at what we got.
    I was a casual player for a long time and am just now getting back into FEH because of Brave Bernie, but everyone says she is mediocre at the moment and will only get worse. As a returning player, I have no reason to doubt them.
    Despite your predictions on her longevity, this video was far more positive about Bernie than any I've seen. With that in mind, what advice would you give to someone wanting to make her useable? I don't have many recent units, so teammate suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for helping a man make the most of his favorite, and for the great content!

    • @devotedhoshiyomi
      @devotedhoshiyomi 4 місяці тому +2

      Worry not, Bernie is absolutely amazing if you know what you're doing and she has unique support both in Vantage and self chip damage as well as universally good Desperation. As for combat, all she needs is a little support and she'll kill whatever, because x4 hits with Desperation are NOT to be taken lightly.
      Teammates would be any dancer that can give her two [Bonus] for her Prime (Peony is a good example), and debuffers that enable her Vantage against melee units (such as Micaiah or Brave Robin from this same CYL). Do keep in mind both Micaiah and Freyr can prevent such start-of-turn penalties, so mid-turn debuffers are really good against them (such as Triandra, Heidr and anyone with Ruse in the B slot).
      She's still weak to staves and anyone with firesweep, so you probably don't wanna go full on Vantage with her, but she's still quite versatile and her debuff reflection keeps her in shape and helps with the [Penalty] requirements of Paranoia.
      And most importantly, she can kill Ike with little support, so she's a lot more than useable. My favorite thing right now is leaving her in range of an enemy Tactics Room so she gets inflicted with Gravity, and then reflects that Gravity to the whole enemy team. Have fun using her!

    • @PoyowenPoyo
      @PoyowenPoyo 4 місяці тому +2

      @@devotedhoshiyomi Tysm! When you say Peony, do you mean the Attuned one? I actually have her, but thought her healing would be anti-synergistic.

    • @devotedhoshiyomi
      @devotedhoshiyomi 4 місяці тому +1

      @@PoyowenPoyo I meant the mythic one. She provides Orders and Null Penalties, so that's enough for Bernie to have 4 [Bonus] active for Prime. Although Attuned Peony does work as well for that, but yes, the healing she provides would be bad for Bernie. Also the fact that her Canto (1) buff overlaps with Bernie's, so the mythic Peony's Null Penalties is a lot more useful.
      Start-of-turn buffers are good as well, like Gerik, Askr, and even some grail units like Iago or Mauvier. Brave Robin also gives Canto (1) like that so it helps as well on top of her debuffs.

  • @shezpherd
    @shezpherd 4 місяці тому +3

    I’m kinda brainstorming and observing the landscape to see how I implement the CYL units in AR but I have Felix on AR-D that I saw Kiro do on the discord and I’m a believer of it.

    • @FEH
      @FEH  4 місяці тому

      Is it too soon to say he might be better on defense than offense?

  • @bagu2769
    @bagu2769 4 місяці тому +1

    I got one of each within a 315 orbs cost. Love to get all of them because CYL units age better than other due the shortened time in refine waitlist

  • @ordinarycheesewizard
    @ordinarycheesewizard 4 місяці тому

    I can't wait to see how they all age. I know that whoever I'm usually most excited about turns out to be the unit I like using the least, so I'm ready to be surprised for the 8th time!

  • @random__idiot
    @random__idiot 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm excited to try out all the units for ARD, I just need to figure out a way to shoehorn them all in. The whole team having vantage might be enough to wreck player phase strats, especially combined with Robin's ice walls. No need to include save(s) means more room for extra nukes. Felix can run amok with the celica ring, similar to how I'm using WEdel at the moment. I'm not sure if I'll replace EIke as my front liner with Alfonse. The extra range could go either way.

    • @FEH
      @FEH  4 місяці тому

      You’ll have to show me what you come up with!

  • @OmegaAero
    @OmegaAero 4 місяці тому +1

    Haven’t used my free pick yet but (even though he’s not the best) Alfonse is a character I’d like to eventually +10 so I’ll probably pick him for a free merge.
    Already managed to get two copies of him before the first spark so Askr has given me his blessing on this mission.

  • @black-redpill3
    @black-redpill3 4 місяці тому +3

    I am someone who is unapologetic in the Alfonse camp, and I agree with the ranking. Unless you have multiple mythic units to boost his base defense/res stats, he belongs in B since it takes too long for him to get going. He needs a minimum of +5 to his def/res at current meta power levels to start going, and that's a bad sign for an omni tank while units that can traverse the entire map with triangle advantage against him are already around.
    That being said, if you dedicate the defense to the king, nothing can do any damage to him.
    He is on paper a tank and wants to be invested like a tank, but that is ironically the only way you'll see him be a nuke.
    Alfonse might end up warranting a mid or second tier rank, since he is legit unkillable with mythic boosts and plays effective in his desired role specifically in aether raids as a bless boosted unit more effectively than anyone else.

    • @musicaltarrasque
      @musicaltarrasque 4 місяці тому +2

      Mila's +1 turn looking real nice rn

    • @black-redpill3
      @black-redpill3 4 місяці тому +2

      @@musicaltarrasque
      Mila squad for light season building the great wall of fonse.
      Everyone trembles before his 99 defense stat.

    • @black-redpill3
      @black-redpill3 4 місяці тому +1

      @@musicaltarrasque
      Oh, forgot to mention an honorable shoutout to Thrasir, since Expose gives a free +10 to damage he deals, making foes a lot easier to free tap. Panic can be nice too.

  • @__53__
    @__53__ 4 місяці тому +4

    Wow another teir list updated! ENEMII Felt a great disturbance ...

    • @FEH
      @FEH  4 місяці тому +2

      I’m still bugging him, but he won’t budge.

    • @__53__
      @__53__ 4 місяці тому

      @FEH It's outrageous for me that alfonse is B tier, I'm well aware of this weakness Perhaps with the right strategy he still dominate

    • @chamow2787
      @chamow2787 4 місяці тому

      ​@@__53__some would say you'd need great talent to make him work

  • @random__idiot
    @random__idiot 4 місяці тому +2

    Robin's start of turn ice wall appears to be switched off by Elimine. It looks as if AMicaiah does NOT let her bypass it, but Freyr does. I'm very confused 😅

    • @FEH
      @FEH  4 місяці тому +3

      FEH mechanics are so much fun. 😵‍💫

  • @cjsomebody2625
    @cjsomebody2625 4 місяці тому +5

    But Mr Ology, if the sac players on offense aren't actively out to get me then why haven't they removed their escape ladder?

    • @FEH
      @FEH  4 місяці тому +1

      @@cjsomebody2625 I meant everyone else. They’re DEFINITELY after you.

  • @jblen
    @jblen 4 місяці тому

    I pulled all 4 and have been playing around in AR with them.
    Felix is seriously a menace. He has more range than e!celica, just as much killing power, but unlike celica he's hard to kill too. He's the 'sleeper pick' if you can consider any of these units slept on.
    That said alfonse immediately stood out as the best pick, and I think he holds up to that reputation. His great talent is a slower burn than expected but is great support at max and makes up for his cav stats very quickly - even waiting turn 1 with safety fence he'll already have +4 to all stats which is like having +10 merges, and then that doubles when you kill someone so he has +8 to atk/def/res for hit and sit strats, or you can use his huge range with up to 4 canto to hit and run and get even more stats next turn. Even without these stats hes incredibly tanky but with these stats he gains a different type of tanking to the likes of ike or nergal and thus can live nukes that those can't. I managed to pull 3 so foddered one, have one on AR offence and one on AR defence. The defence one is anima, and so recieves divine nectar from heithrun which may be making me biased on his performance but in any case, the new brave bernie with eikthyrnirs +9 attack bonus doubler and remixed plumeria adding hexblade for a bernie with +42 atk and +38 spd... Still doesn't kill an Alfonse with -7 def/-5 res and no stone terrain or even the buffs he gives himself turn 1. I strongly believe alfonse is at the very least above bernie. He also takes 0 damage from any of my galeforce core of w!edelgard, b!embla and b!sharena. He also lives initiating on b!ike among many other omnitanks (LF nergal was the only one I personally have that could kill alfonse) which combined with canto makes him an amazing way to safely trigger an AR D with someone like felix who won't move until the opponent is in the danger area but then gets his extra action.

  • @CatsLilaSalem
    @CatsLilaSalem 4 місяці тому

    Felix is very good at solo autobattle PVE content at an fast pace

  • @ixlness
    @ixlness 4 місяці тому

    I’m saving my pick for later since I have one of each unit. For short term use, I would say Felix, but I also think he’s gonna be the Brave Corrin of this year’s batch. Good right away but will be outdated in a couple of months. It’s nice that Felix already has counters though like Gatrie.

  • @thecrazies4587
    @thecrazies4587 4 місяці тому

    Double fury build turns Felix into a monster

  • @duhsakadsoul1824
    @duhsakadsoul1824 4 місяці тому +2

    Brave Alfonse with his supply of infinite stats i pick him he's the main star of that banner . Now you can have Super OP TEAM that will always win if you all max out and put these characters together number 1. Brave Alfonse best custom build and 2. Best Build Emblem Ike and 3. best build Heiðrún and 4. best build Female Brave Robin her ice can be very annoying i can say you clear the game in everymore Emblem Ike with breath of life 4 is very usefull he's very hard to defeat and with the support of Brave Alfonse stats and with Heiðrún support Divine Nectar remember that all these characters must be max out and build with best custom with dragonstone + and merges these heroes are getting more powerful . Emblem Ike is more like a Demi God Character at this point

  • @huqiu4326
    @huqiu4326 4 місяці тому

    I hope you do another tier list with the refines, bacause the brave unit refine are coming

  • @yunashadow
    @yunashadow 4 місяці тому

    I believe in brave Alfonse... not as an omnitank at least until drive null cd, but as a tanky hit and run support. Go in, grab a few stats, get out and provide stats, divine stone, and bol4 to your real tank... he can even wait a few turns for bolt tower and help allies hit close skill checks like ploys because they are visible stats right? Visible stats that can't be stolen are the best kind of stats.

  • @RayBcv1030
    @RayBcv1030 4 місяці тому

    I picked Felix.
    He's an AMAZING Galeforce initator.

  • @ShinyDracozolt
    @ShinyDracozolt 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for this list, dude! I'm really excited; the only unit I didn't get while trying to spark for F!Robin was Felix, and I'm honestly not sure if he would've had a place in my barracks considering that I've got Rutger with a little sprinkling of A!Eirika fodder. But I'm super excited to play with Bernie and F!Robin is going to be a very fun unit to utilize for me, especially since I got her at +1. And I had to support my boy Alfonse. I'm excited to try and use him; thank you for the vid!

  • @peachesaupear8455
    @peachesaupear8455 4 місяці тому

    Wait why are people confused by the +7 phantom Spd?

  • @BylethsBoba776
    @BylethsBoba776 4 місяці тому +1

    9:35
    am I crazy or does he not just kill Nergal there

    • @FEH
      @FEH  4 місяці тому

      He does kill Nergal there. The interaction between Bernie and Heiðrún is pretty anti-synergistic. Because she healed him to full health, he didn’t get vantage in this situation.

    • @BylethsBoba776
      @BylethsBoba776 4 місяці тому +1

      @@FEHah I see, thanks for the explanation

  • @jonathanryan9946
    @jonathanryan9946 4 місяці тому +7

    Multi-action characters fall off fast when better multi-action characters come out. So while Felix is great now, he could fall off hard overnight one day.
    Robin probably has the best long term staying power, due to all her supports (ice wall, buffing and debuffing). Not to mention immunity to debuffs in combat.

    • @erikshoe6441
      @erikshoe6441 4 місяці тому +9

      You could say the same about Robin because buffing/debuffing is hardly unique, plus ice terrain is guaranteed to appear on multiple units in the next months because it's a great Celica counter.

    • @black-redpill3
      @black-redpill3 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@erikshoe6441
      The question isn't if Ice will appear again on other units, the question is if it will appear with the same conditions as Robin. She doesn't have to initiate combat to set hers, but that doesn't mean the next ice won't get the Alfonse treatment and be forced into combat to set it.

    • @jonathanryan9946
      @jonathanryan9946 4 місяці тому +2

      ​​@@erikshoe6441The ice may appear on other units but not necessarily in the weapon but a skill. Further her combination of no requirements for the debuffs, and the rarity of Hush Spectrum currently being locked to her. Means she likely has much longer longevity than Felix.
      So imagine, another unit comes out with an Ice a skill, as long as infantry can use it (remember fortifications just let infantry get Devine vein skills)... well, Robin can now double her icing. 😅
      Now yes, all units eventually drop off, I just believe trends show Felix will first. That does mean both Robin and Felix will fall off though. I'm just saying it's an ongoing trend of getting a great multi action unit every few months. So with certainty Felix will have competition soon and after a few such units will drop out of the meta.
      When in contrast, with Devine Vein effects, we don't have a trend of a particular type of veins getting replaced every few months. Nor with it being locked to fliers/calvary anymore, so Robin could actually gain power from another unit, not that she'll necessarily being outdone. Think of how new skills have given a longer life to Emblem Ike, not caused him to go away. Certain units do last longer than the average, I'm hypothesizing that Robin could be one of these as she has some indications she could last longer than the average.

  • @masterm82923
    @masterm82923 4 місяці тому

    Is there any good C skils for B Alfonse?

  • @adventuresightion3917
    @adventuresightion3917 4 місяці тому

    Robin hasn’t been able to kill Myrh for me sad

  • @illialidur8244
    @illialidur8244 4 місяці тому +2

    Wow, what an ugly and squished S tier in the final graphic… can’t believe how far quality has dipped in these last 40 seconds…

    • @FEH
      @FEH  4 місяці тому +1

      Illia, how could you be so cruel 😭 /s

    • @illialidur8244
      @illialidur8244 4 місяці тому

      @@FEH I think he means /j but we know what he meant

    • @FEH
      @FEH  4 місяці тому

      @@illialidur8244 I said what I said

  • @infantrypulse
    @infantrypulse 4 місяці тому +6

    All my homies think Brave Alfonse is overrated. 😤 💯

    • @FEH
      @FEH  4 місяці тому +4

      There’s a dance battle later tonight between the Alf boys and the Felix fans 🕺💃

  • @SuperMiIk
    @SuperMiIk 4 місяці тому +2

    I hate Felix so bad

  • @crimsoneternalflower6880
    @crimsoneternalflower6880 4 місяці тому +1

    Marth being in B tier is criminal 🗿

    • @HisCoconutGun
      @HisCoconutGun 4 місяці тому +4

      Yeah he should be C, he was never meta impactful

    • @crimsoneternalflower6880
      @crimsoneternalflower6880 4 місяці тому +1

      @@HisCoconutGun Hell Nah. Marth is DEFINITELY S tier. You’re just a hater

    • @FEH
      @FEH  4 місяці тому +1

      If you haven’t already, you should check out the AR chat in the FEHology discord. That’s the home of the Marth cult and they plan assassinations every time I put him in anything but a tier 😅

  • @ruimasaki1887
    @ruimasaki1887 4 місяці тому +1

    It depends on who among them can solo Emblem Ike.
    Let me tell you: only Brave Alfonse can't 😅
    But yeah, all of them are good in their own way, and I picked Alfonse on my free summon.

  • @toddp5026
    @toddp5026 2 місяці тому

    What’s this new skill where an opponent takes your whole teams health down to 1 before anything even happens. That’s the biggest load of bullshit that’s ever been introduced into this game. There is absolutely no strategy associated with that nonsense.

  • @Alex1jag
    @Alex1jag 4 місяці тому

    Good on PvE means "this unit is as good as Askr trio".

  • @nothingbasic8147
    @nothingbasic8147 4 місяці тому

    Alfonse: he’s him.

  • @feh_tactician
    @feh_tactician 4 місяці тому

    Tch, Felix Fans 🙄 You just does not understand Alfonse's true power 😒

  • @OpheliaDuskElla
    @OpheliaDuskElla 4 місяці тому +2

    Bernie for paranoia and I love brave attackrs

  • @qcop4921
    @qcop4921 4 місяці тому +2

    Felix = someone will die on first turn, probly.

  • @tharmir
    @tharmir 4 місяці тому +1

    I have got a copy of each one and i got to say bernadette is my fav, is a fucking monster that nukes anything and buff your allies. Felix is good and can take 2 enemies in the first turn. alphonse is an omnitank and robin has been disappointing

    • @MisterFanatic
      @MisterFanatic 4 місяці тому +6

      @@tharmir I highly suggest trying Robin with a Rally skill to get variable Divine Vein: Ice formations. Sneaky amazing. She can get some kills, but her primary utility is preventing approaches.