Royal Enfield Himalayan Valve check
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- Royal Enfield Himalayan valve check. Controversial subject - is it clockwise or anti clockwise? In this video I give my thoughts on the matter. Please let me know what you think in the comments below.
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Hi there, Dave-in-France here, again ! I reckon that for me, this is the definitive RE Himmie valve check video so I'm going to scrap all the others I saved.
Not only do you dedicate sufficient time to explain which way is best to turn the crankshaft, but there were a number of little but important hints and tips to include when doing this job; such as lifting the FRONT of the tank to access the LHS pipes.
You have inspired me to do the valves on my 2022 Himmie now as she has 10+ kms on the clock. Thank you very much for helping me. Dave
Pleased you thought it was useful to you. Thanks for watching
Hey man,
well done and right told!!
In germany we say "lange Rede ,kurzer Sinn" (Long Story, short content).
Well, I turn the engine with the rear-wheel in drive - direction..
it's the best way to find the mark in the hole, mostly I find the mark at once: I have a look to the wakling valves and I see the moment, when both are closed. I have a look into the spark- plug - hole and I see the piston in the highest position... that is the right point and when I look to the flywheel - mark, - oh wonder, it's correctly!!
So the plate behind the Engine-cover-bars can stay in place.
I think, when you let the engine run with 0,2 mm on the outlet- valve, it works well. if it's my bike i would have a look every 5.000 km to this point and have a control... I think,it will be good for 20.000 km or so.
thanks for making this good viedeo, it's coplete mymind...
Stay healthy, Peter
Thanks
No opinion on clock- or anti clockwise. I take out the plug, put the bike in fifth gear and move the rear wheel in the direction of drive.
Kinda difficult on the Himalayan unless you have help.
Hard to see the marks on the crank when you're turning the back wheel.
I also have worked on motorcycles for years and I agree with you completely and have been using the counter clockwise rotation with adjusting the tappets.
Interesting to note Royal Enfield has some UA-cam videos on doing your own servicing and there they actually state to turn it in a counter clockwise direction which is a contradiction to what they have there Manuel.
Thanks for watching
Great video, subscribed! I particularly love the way you explain things fully, which is great for someone like me with less experience.
Welcome aboard!
I've got the seat and the tank off because I just bought a new battery and am fitting some heated gloves so I thought whilst we're here let's check the tappets. And I remembered seeing your video a short while ago about CW/CCW, so here I am watching a bloke who's clearly done it more often than me and whose advice I'm going to take. CCW it is, simply because that's the direction I have ALWAYS done it since my first go at valve clearances back in the early 80s, you always turn the crank in the direction of travel. It 's nice to have somebody explain it correctly. Your camchain tensioner reasoning inter alia makes absolutely perfect sense. Thanks !! Also, I agree that 0.23mm is frikkin massive, you could get a bus in there. You talk a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing your wisdom. I am looking forward to getting my TEC cam soon. Shame about the chocolate valves but, hey, it is what it is. I suspect Hitchcock's will be getting a fair bit of my hard-earned Euros sooner rather than later. But I'm loving not only my Himalayan, but also the superb worldwide Himalayan community and people like yourself who stop me making an absolute twat of myself 😂🤣😂🤣😂.
Pleased to have helped you. Good luck with the jobs on the bike.
Interesting thoughts about this chain tensioner. This explains why some have problems with noisy tensioners . I had this problem at 7500km. Extrem loud noise. It’s not a single case. Some people had this already with overjumped chains and damage at the engine. 👍
Yes the cam chain tensioner is very weak. Pleased you found the video interesting
I always get the correct TDC by turning the rear wheel in the direction of its rotation engaging in 2nd gear.(In compression stroke).
Thanks for this, I just purchased a new Himalayan last week. Still running in. I received the adjuster tool today and will do check once I have done a few more miles.
Hope you enjoyed the video
You’re the 2nd UA-camr that said it should be turned anti clockwise. Nick from Nick & Jodie's Episodes did a video on his Scram 411 a few months back and says the manual is wrong it needs to go anti clockwise like all other engines and it could cause issues going backwards. He’s also a professional mechanic. As a small engine mechanic everything you’re saying makes perfect sense. RE really needs to adjust their info in their Manuel and use a left handed threaded nut witch would cost nothing to change over to.
RE only need a bit more thought on how they built it and it would be a cracking bike
Good stuff here. Thanks for the clarity of instruction and information. I did my 300 mile valve adjustment turning the engine clockwise. Next time I'll do it clockwise!
Thanks for watching. Hope you enjoyed the video
My comment is exactly the same as Dave below, just put this in to help the algorithm or whatever. I particularly like the rubber tube adjuster trick. I am now fully confident my TEC cam and Hitchcock (proper metal) valve installation will work as yours has. Many many thanks for your patience!
Sounds like we have the same engine set up,makes a different bike out of it.
I've been working on motorcycles since the mid-1960's and we never turned any engine opposite the normal running direction that has a cam-chain tensioner.
This engine runs counterclockwise that's why I think it should be turned counterclockwise. If the engine runs clockwise then it should be turned clockwise.
@@iantoy7778 I thought about that after I commented. All the bikes I have owned turned counter-clockwise viewed from the left side. I should have said, never opposite to normal direction of crankshaft/cam rotation. Thanks.
I totally agree with you that it's anti clock wise.
BUT did Royal Enfield think its clock wise because they are looking at it from the right hand side of the bike?
You could be right there lol
@iantoy7778 it always has been in the back of my mind because if you stand on the right hand side where the clutch is, it actually runs clock wise. But if you on the left using the crack pully to turn the engine over its anti clock wise. I am an interceptor owner (well have a classic too) BUT the interceptor owners on UA-cam got themselves in a right pickle about 3 years ago. BUT RE got back to them and said it actually is anticlockwise.
Your logic is correct and as a rule, the motors rotate against the clock in the direction of traction.
However, Himalayan's LS 411 engine is Counter Rotatory, rotating in the opposite direction of traction, therefore clockwise.
The service manual is correct.
I have done it your way for years as I was taught. I agree with the comments on the thread on the nut. Well done.
Thanks. Hope you enjoyed the video
Thanks for watching
All common sense what you said there. Thanks for sharing your valuable experiences and this very practical approach in resolving those problems.
Karl from Tasmania
Thanks for watching.
Excellent, much appreciated.
Thanks for watching. Good to know it helped
You do not have to be worried about the camchain tensioner .It will be fixed right and straight in the plastic chain guide when it is attacked on the cylinder. And the spring is hard enought to do the job. I have manual tensioner on my bikes and the force on the camchain is just fingertight. no more. If it is harder force the chain can brake of when it is hot.
Thanks. Hope you enjoyed the video
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Honestly brilliant video very well explained. Made sense even to me
Glad you liked it!
Nice demonstrational video , I do agree RE are a little on the minus side of quality but it works and works well,since the 80s I've been working on different bikes , Bsa , Tri, Norton , Honda ,Kawasaki , Ural , MZ ,BMW ,Ural brill once mods are done.Modern oils play a big part in today's engines lasting longer be interesting to know if one was run on straight oil vs modern engineering , love your tappet tool tube . Great Video.
Tappet tool, sometimes the simplest things work the best.
In this day and age it's nice to be able to work on a bike with tools and not just a computer.
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Will be following your example ref new valves etc and checking end float on the oil pump
Thanks for watching.I'm pleased you found it helpful.
Spot on with your comments about which way you turn the crankshaft , why R/E say to turn clockwise I don't know because someone in the engine design side of things even put an arrow on the flywheel in the anticlockwise direction
Yes I noticed that as well. Hope you liked the video. Thanks for watching
Take a plug out put in gear and turn back wheel , l do it that way on my V85 tt .
Well done, nice work. Max
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I'm going to try that 2 pipes from the front thing on the tank next time.
Thanks for watching. Hope you found it useful.
and if you think you maybe have loosend the bolt you can still tork it back down after adjusting the tappets. Just put it in gear hold the rear wheel and tight the bolt ....
The clearance on your inlet valve in now set under 0,08 mm, since you are turning both parts without holding the inner part during fastening.
Yes but don't you recheck after tightening and adjust if necessary, because I do.
I am not sure why it’s a discussion point. Any mechanic will tell you to turn the engine anticlockwise after you have removed the plug(s). It will make no difference to the valve position whatever way the engine is turned, but as you correctly point out turning it clockwise puts undue pressure on a relatively delicate tensioner that ratchets out and can relatively easily be forced back in past the delicate ratchet mechanism causing damage. Books, even technical books can have errors. RE have an error in their manual. They don’t make the manual readily available so luckily only trained mechanics who will use their knowledge to do it right.
Thing is not everyone is a mechanic. The royal Enfield lends it self for people who would normally just take there bike to a service centre to have a go at there own maintenance and the first place they will look would have been a workshop manual or maybe UA-cam now days lol.
You’re right! Sweet sounding engine there.
Thanks. Hope you enjoyed the video.
It sure is!
Great informative video. I’m a new subscriber. If i can ask a question? I’ve always installed an in line fuel filter on my other bikes but they’ve not been fuel injected. Mainly single cylinder 2 stroke engines. In your opinion is an in line fuel filter suitable or necessary for the Himalayan where fuel quality could be an issue? Thanks in advance
Thanks for watching. Happy to answer any questions. The Himalayan has a fuel filter in the tank. You need to remove the fuel pump to find it.
Also want to add re turning engine over, dont use the nut, With plug out and bike in high gear rotate the wheel
Thanks for taking the time to make this video.
Can I ask if you bought the stage two cam or the re profiled oem cam.
I'm seriously thinking about this modification myself.
Secondly, would you recommend setting the exhaust valve gap to 0.20 on an engine with the standard valves and cam.
Just ignore any trolls, they haven't got a clue, you on the other hand, obviously do.
You're creating accurate informative videos that will help a lot of people.
The Tec cam is a completely new cam not reprofiled cam. It makes a world of difference. Well worth the money.
Like others and yourself I turn it counter clockwise. I have wondered also two things - as the cam chain stretches and before the spring pushes the foot adjuster onto the next indent does the cam chain add to 'the noise'? Also as the miles rack up is there a service tolerance on the spring wear ? Great tip with the rubber tube - I was advised to put a crease in the feeler gauge so the gap was true on the basis if the gauge goes into the gap at an angle it will possibly give a slightly larger gap if bend it slides in square- if that makes sense? Thanks again for the very good video and the tips - including the 12nm for the locknuts - i could not find that spec .
The cam chain can cause some of the noise. Also look on my oil pump video. That is a lot of noise.
I've done the valve clearances three times on mine now,always turned the engine in direction of travel.
Never even suspected that the crank nut had loosened,it is way too tight.
If you were concerned,when finished,torque the nut back to 80nm,bike in gear back brake on.
The spring in the camchain tensioner I think they stole from a Parker pen.
Hope you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching
Hi There , Another good interesting video thanks for that , can I ask where the torque value for the tappets came from please because I couldn't find this anywhere . I agree with your concerns with overloading of the cam chain adjuster and sprag clutch, I will watch with interest cheers mick.
I was in Royal Enfield in Bulgaria and ask there mechanic in there service department. He said all 6 mm threaded bolts/Nuts ( 10mm spanner size) are 12 Nm
At last my wife is wrong 😂😂😂
I did the valve adjustment on my previous himalayan and could never get it right, I sat on the floor with head in hands telling her the engine must go in the direction of travel
She told me enfield must know what they are doing 😂😂
Keep doing what your doing as you do it well
Wife can now do the walk of shame 😅
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Hello from Bavaria, I have a question!? How did you attach the ammunition box to the luggage rack?
Hello, If you have a look at my list of videos you will find one about my luggage. I explain in that how I fixed the ammunition box to my bike.
I also have the TEC camshaft, your tip for adjusting it is great. Thanks so much