127: Replacing a Les Paul Neck part 1
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2020
- It's my first time replacing a glued in guitar neck. I couldn't believe what I found under the fretboard on this Epiphone when I removed the fretboard!
EDIT: I have since discovered that this is not an anomally, and that neck joints like this are common for Epiphones! If my hunch is right, it's just cheaper to make the full-width neck and then cut a chunk off like this, rather than make a "proper" tenon. Intentional corner cutting, rather than a "reject neck" as I suggested in this video.
Another way you can remove the neck is to use a pair of those heated wire polystyrene cutters. Ted Woodford uses them for neck resets
Dude, your voice and mannerisms are almost identical to Ben Crowe from Crimson Guitars.
Well we are part of the good old British Commonwealth of Nations down here in New Zealand. ;)
Have a question about the truss rod design. I'm going to repair a very similar guitar but need to know if I can remove the truss rod from the headstock without loosing the nut or threads in the neck pocket. Please reach out and explain briefly. Cheers.
That's shocking. I'm wondering now if I'll find something similar when I remove the broken neck (missing headstock) from the Ephiphone Les Paul I have on my bench.
The pirate captain sailed against the wind and through the hurricane to find the gold
I have torn into many Epis and never found a cluster-F of this magnitude. Yikes.
I have only heard legends - until now!
Since making this video, my research has shown me that actually this type of neck joint is normal in Epiphone Les Pauls. Making a regular full-width neck and then cutting off a piece where it glues into the body like this is just cheaper than making a proper tenon. See the next video (when it comes out).
@@MonsterGuitars, welp, good enough reason to stay away from Epiphones after the 1990's. Never seen anything like this in the older ones.
@@MonsterGuitars What evidence do you have that this is normal construction on Epiphones? I've never seen it before and unless you have evidence from someone in the factory or seen video or photographic proof, I wouldn't go around claiming it as "normal". People will say any sorts of shit on the internet and claim it as "fact". Possibly like you might be doing now.
@@TUUK2006 I'm not going to go and find links for you to consider. Google the words "Epiphone" and "offset tenon." You'll find it.
Maestro, I'm looking for the measurement, how deep I've to rout so the neck is in 100% intonation-depth. So, I can ask you this? Thank you ever so much.
Best Regards.
Cor
I have a Bolt On Les Paul. I wanted to replace it and make it a Setneck/Glued Neck. Is it possible???
I have a heavy OCD, all of my Les Pauls are Setneck except that one so i want to make it a setneck too. Also its my first guitar so its very sentimental to me.
That's the design. You're lucky you pulled the fret board.
Yeah, after doing that I discovered the existence of the offset tenon.
I have a Gibson Les Paul 60's Standard with a break at the base near the body. Almost certainly will snap with any significant pressure. Any advice?
A break in the neck? Without seeing it, it's hard to know if it's repairable. It may be possible to open the break a little, get glue in, and repair it. If it was actually made in the 60s, take it to a Luthier to look at, as a repair is what you want. If it's a reissue, it isn't hard to get a Les Paul standard neck, nor is it hard to remove the old one, so replacing the neck is certainly an option.
@@MonsterGuitars it's a 2021 reissue. Where can I find a replacement neck? I don't think the glue trick is going to work on this one. It's almost snapped all the way through.
@@steves12strings I don't buy replacement necks, so I couldn't say off the top of my head. I did just search Ebay for replacement Les Paul necks and there were plenty of results. You'd just have to confirm with the seller that it's a match for your guitar. I imagine there would be some on Reverb, too. Gibson don't sell necks. They would refer you to one of their authorised repairers (whoever they might be), but of course that would be expensive.
As an absolute beginner, im very curious how you get the neck out. Since you're not keeping this jewel, I imagine you're going to start with a saw. But can you remove a glued neck you want to keep?
Definitely. I haven't removed the neck yet, but when I do, I won't use a saw.
Use heat and steam. That’s all.
@@jakefromstatefarm9721 that's all that's to it, indeed. There's a 'Cor' way, that's digging it out like with architectural precision. Chisels, drilling, milling, cutting with a knife. Probably theres in my case another problem surfaced. Not every neck fits in every model body. For example: the 24 frets neck has to put in a body that was a 24 fret guitar.
Sometimes necks are too short at one side: 20, 21 22 frets. It seems those can't be put in. Results in: out of tune, intonation, flagolettes, completely at strange places. Here I mean the "normal" positions with clear tone.
I've one shot at this.
We'll see, wont we?
I'll keep you updated. If you would like that?
B. R.
Cor🤘🏽🎸🤘🏽
So can you take a les paul body and out any neck on it ?
No, not just any neck. It'll need to have the same number of frets and be based on the same scale length (24.75 inches), otherwise you'll be doing much more major surgery.
Right.
This interesting. Inthought that Chinese Epiphones, at least since 2020, upped their quality. Now I doubt...
That's an old epi
Unrelated to your work, could you in the future, turn off auto focus? It will stop the in & out of focus every time you move. It will make this much easier to watch. Thanks.
At the moment I'm still doing all my video recording with my phone, which doesn't have the option of turning it off. But yes, I'll do this if / when I upgrade to a dedicated camera.
@@MonsterGuitars you may have that capability in your phone now. Look for "pro" settings (or something to that effect). Then manual focus. The downside is you'll have to make sure the other settings are correct. That's easy enough to do by looking at the details attached to all photos (usually scrolling up on the pic will reveal them) and matching those settings. Unless you have an iPhone as I'm an android user. Keep up the good work
Yikes. Glad mines an older Korean made Epi, a lot higher quality than the Chinese made ones.
+1
What do these people who "break" les paul necks do??
I had my Les Paul broken for exact 4 times. One time it fell. Second time, wrong glue, third time, it fell, fourth time it broke because it fell. On the ground, gravity is a bitsjh. Just dumb and bad luck. I've over a dozen guitars, none of those others are scratched let alone broken. Dumb luck isn't totally true, they're top heavy. Like more 24 frets, glued in or 'solid necks'. Take it from a veteran with 50 flight years strumming the three chords I know, sometimes its a matter of frequent usage and its a tool. Tools break I'm happy for you nothing broke. E=MC²🎸P=F÷A; strong stringed neck is as weak as bees can be fragile, when they fall they crack at the neck. Which is the thinnest, thus weakest link in a chain of the F-lines, invisible though decent present. Actually there's no reason why it happens.
@@oomerwta That's bad luck! What a story, you should name the guitar after it🤣.. I have to knock it on wood 3 times, luckily i never broke mine...
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@@klauscottonswab2322 did you read my question?
I have a 68 Gibson les paul left to me when my grandfather passed, out of spite my great uncle (his brother) broke it in half at the base of the neck out of spite before it arrived to me, he wanted to sell it he doesn’t play but I do, sucks because the original neck is the one my grandfathers fingers played on but I want to fix it, body is ok, any advise? I just want it playable again for nostalgia but I want to keep the original neck to mount on my wall, I don’t care how much I spend
If money isn't a factor, with an heirloom like that I would ask a luthier to replace the neck with another one to make it like it was.
ive scowered you tube and have yet to find a Gibson with their multi peace maple walnut maple necks with a broken headstock! the mahogany they use has very short grain witch is great for some things and bad for others. maple on the other hand has a long grain and provides better support. it got so bad at a point wear a large number of guitars wer not surviving initial shipment to dealers witch epiphone was even worse! if i ever buy another Gibson its got to be a custom with maple neck and a staple neck pickup and a p90 in the bridge. its probably a made to measure item that would ballpark cost 6k to get into. ill stick to my thick maple top mahogany back strat for now i guess. lol
Yeah that's true, it's not *just* the lack of a volute, although that's a weakness. A multi-laminate neck is much stronger than the one-piece mahogany necks Gibson uses and would be far less likely to break.
This is why you should install splines and not just glue the break.
Oh, I did us splines. As I said in this video, this was a whole new break, unrelated to the repaired break. It wasn't a failure of the original repair. Someone (not me) dropped the guitar on its end.
@@MonsterGuitars some one needs to get a telecaster.
Could be a fake epiphone. It's not just Gibsons that get faked.
nah, Gibson quality control sucks.
same guitar same neck same break.
Jesus. Not cool.
Les Pauls are such inferior design compared to Strats
Ummmmmmm why do you think one pays peanuts for a c hina guitar. Well now you know, get over it already
Thanks for your helpful comment. :)
As you can see, I did better than getting over it. I replaced it!