A guy I was working for in Western Australia bought a 12t class wheel loader for $40k new a few years ago. Similarly it was very basic - no computer, no fancy electronics, no B.S. warranty forfeitures. We found we had to change all the oils and the batteries and once we had done that, it was brilliant. It was a copy of a ‘70s Komatsu, so design-wise it can’t get any better. Great geometry, components matched, easy to work on, everything worked like it should. I certainly recommend that brand and model as long as all out production is not your ultimate purpose.
Hey Tu te Kohe what was the make and model of the loader you mentioned in your post I'm also from W.A and am looking for such a machine just to use on my hobby farm Regards
The larger tire valve stems are standard on most heavy equipment. Nothing special about it. The engine oil drain valve is also standard on most heavy equipment. Deere and Volvo both use the same drain as the SDLG. Sounds like a lot of whining from someone who has no clue what they are even looking at.
no offense but this is what I find most of the time when this channel pop up on my suggested videos. also moaning about power because you brought the smallest engine and not say "maybe I should of brought the bigger engine one" seem unfair plus add blue is coming on everything so your going to have to make the move at some point so dont know why you would use that as your only reason why.
that stuff is called cosmolene, its a coating to protect it from sea water on it's travel over. Subaru's that come from Japan have the same stuff on them
Seems like a good little loader,the fact that it does not use def is more than one reason to own it.i was impressed that it was set up with quick oil change fittings and large air fittings,you can get a air chuck to fit those
That's why i love cat. I can get parts in the middle of a storm when everything is closed. Granted you pay for the convenience, but when time is money it pays for itself.
I can't believe they have had it two years and it seems to be getting it's first oil change. Or at least that's what it seems like when you can't work the drain or know the amount. Sounds like it still needs its first grease job.
I'm a British electronics engineer and Chinese schematics have never been an issues for me . Diagrams are diagrams, for everything else just point your phone at the diagram and google will translate any Chinese text into English for you on the spot.
@@alexandergraef8940 go to your nearest injection pump shop and they'll either turn the pump up or chip the computer if it has one any of the machines we imported still had an inline injection pump all we did was turn the pump up and set the governor
The femco is North American brand and deutz is European the threads on that oil drain are a little different then femco the femco would not work on all the deutz I use to maintain had to get one from deutz dealer had no problem after that.
"If the schematics weren't in Chinese I could do a better job." Electricity works the same in English and Chinese. Wiring diagrams are symbol based not linguistically based.
A few years ago using the Escher staircase as a model and a map of my city I carefully bid jobs that allow me to take my plowing route all downhill and back to my yard. Then UPS suggested that making all Right Hand Turns makes a route even more efficient and so now my route is all uphill. Sigh...
This is a prime example of not being smarter than the equipment you are operating. A FEL with Hi/Low gearing isn't meant to be driven on hardball. You need to load it on a trailer to transport from job to job. Those tires need adapters because normal valve stems would be ruined in normal dirt moving operations. Then you'd complain they were cheap and something like what is supplied should have been used. It is 74hp, it is not a 185hp HMEE. You use it for its utility, not at its capacity.
Yup. Bought and fixed then sold user abused equipment. Beat it to death then complain that it costs a lot to repair then sale it as a broken POS to someone like me who can turn a wrench and make a very good profit selling it when fixed. Made plenty of coin doing that.
Thats what happens world over buy a machine smaller than required and not specified for purpose work it to death on applications it wasn't designed for and then complain that it's crap.
normal valve stems are 100% fine in dirt moving operations as long as the have a cap on them, the larger valve stem is so that it is quicker to fill up the tire because it takes a while to fill it up with the smaller one
I’ve seen that style drain plug on semi’s before, it threads on like a garden hose and then it has a piece of hose hanging down to direct the flow. As you screw it on it pushes the valve open and starts to drain. It’s actually a convenient way to drain oil.
I have run into this residue on RVs in the '90s. It was caused by a reaction between cheap rubber and acid rain, the only ways we could get rid of it was 1 chemicals so harsh we needed a special lic. for or 2 a buffer and rubbing compound neither of which were practical. I am not sure if the current ones are the same but I would not doubt that cheap chinese equipment is using the old formula crap.
8:50 Its is called a "Big Bore" valve stem, all loading shovels have them, You can get the screw on adaptors like you got, or get an airline end to fit.
It's still cheaper than a new Skid Steer for moving snow, plus you can put a larger pusher on it. If I had a snow moving operation I would really appreciate the visibility that comes from being up high in a cab as opposed to nestled in a SSL For the oil changes you might look into a vacuum oil extractor, it can suck the oil out of the fill hole and not have to mess with a drain plug Coating may be a protective rust coating when it's sent over on the ship from overseas. Dealers are supposed to wash that off prior to delivery
That is a common equipment drain valve by No-Spill Systems, the air valve takes a 3/8" chuck due to the volume of air the tire takes and not the 1/4 inch one that you adapted it too. Your Deutz engine oil capacity changed depending on application, that is why they can't just tell you off the top of their heads with out the ESN(Engine Serial Number) and access to the built specifications for the ESN. That grim on your machine is a protective coating that is applied before it is shipped to prevent salt water corrosion and if you use the proper cleaning method for machines, de-greasers properly mixed and a steam cleaner. I have worked one Chinese built machines for a rental company where we were the only company to have them and I have worked on CAT, Deere, JCB, Kubota, Yanmar, Doosan, and many others. This seems like a normal run of the mill loader experience you would have with any manufacturer, the only issue is that you seem to lack understanding and experience.
That little valve for the oil drain is call an ecology valve. Get yourself a pipe nipped close to that size and you can screw it in the to one it up to drain easier. Cat equipment those too on certain pieces of equipment for example D7 and D8 have those on the transmission drain.
Yeah thats what theyre called! I've gotten so used to calling them gynecology drains at work I forgot the real name. lol. I keep several hoses and adapters on my service truck to fit all the drains on cat equipment. Its nice to route the hose directly into a bucket and not make a mess too
I am here to say hoses rattle lose can definitely happen on other new equipment. my $140,000 weiler paver had lines come loose all over the machine and when they came loose, they ruined the o rings. I don't think it should be like that, but it is.... after going through and replacing all the o rings with high pressure o rings and tightening everything, its a pretty good machine.
Being under powered isn't the loaders fault it's how you wanted it to dodge def laws . 2 it's high lo box is just that not for all situations but would be perfect for a landscape yard . As for the electric issues get another tech he's useless it's only the wording in Chinese the wiring diagram is the same the world over. And contact Volvo FOR the oil drain tool. We have a 6 month old cat loader that's had way more issues than that.
I work at a mine with a cat dealer so close that we've got a dedicated private road from the mine to the dealer. There has been brand new equipment that couldn't make the 10 mile trip without breakdowns / issues.
@@manuelvergara8944 I'm not making it up. It's usually "little" issues. Electrical, injector o rings leaking, e.t.c. but it's enough to shut the equipment down till it gets repaired.
7:40 I took 5 seconds and google searched L918F Wheel Loader oil and found this: www.sdlgna.com/images/brochures/L918F-Wheel-Loader-Brochure.pdf So 2.6 gallons or 10 liters.
@@nmmxiii9389 no kidding! People are so disrespectful. Where's their channel, with daily content? Full of their expert knowledge delivered flawlessly with zero human error ever?
"with only a low and high gear, it doesn't give you many gear options" Let me count them for you. (It's two.) 'with only 74 horsepower you have to shift to low gear when climbing a hill". Didn't you purposely get the 74 horsepower model? (because you wanted not even one more horse?)
For 65K this thing is a dream. Fantastic machine for the money. A 4 series JD compact tractor with a cab will cost you that much. Guessing they are no longer 65K, but probably not much more than 70K. Still a great deal from what I can see.
We have Volvo’s and the valve stems are much larger and require a reducer adapter. We also have a short hose that threads on the oil drain and opens it.
The original design for these was a Portland Oregon company back in the ‘50’s. I just bought one built in 1963 and somebody used it for mining and cut the roof off. I got it for $1500 here in Alaska and it has a Dodge in-line six and killer power
I have the same machine the best way to get that off is purple power. My service guy told me it was from when they shipped it from China they put a coat of oil wax on it to prevent it from rusting when it’s in the storage containers coming overseas. I have On the machine for five years and still trying to get it off. This video is spot on about the machine great snowmachine and great mulching machine absolutely horrible in the dirt.
Best with any loader,especially underpowered is to follow the face of the pile up to load bucket,as opposed to jamming it into pile..Use more rpms.Does that loader not have a neutralizer switch for loading?Even the best loader sucks in snow without winter tires.Difference is incredible
I'm not gonna bash your operators, they are good especially on those skid steers. Better technique on even a weak loader would make it far more productive.
good channel. fun to see the china tractor. I went and looked at one just because I was so eager to buy one a few years ago. but I went and looked. and made a movie available on youtube. thought of a return visit in a year. for and see if it holds 😅 in and check. there are subtitles
Stan, I think when it was sent over from China, they may have sprayed it down with cosmoline. The same stuff new tires have on them. Never having need for a bath, it probably baked on over the two years you have had it. 👍👍
I don't know what a comparable Cat/Deere/Volvo loader would've cost, but they're all pretty proud of their iron. Stan might eventually regret buying this thing, but far as I can tell he doesn't. For better or worse this COVID China VS USA thing will be old news in a year. In fact the Chinese are probably loading US bound container ships as we speak. Maybe some US companies will pull some production back home, but Americans are addicted to cheaper off-shore stuff. We can wish it were different. I edited to show this ad I found..seems to be comparable in some ways. 2019 CAT 906M/wheel loader For Sale Price: USD $77,900 Purchase today for USD $1,309.13/monthly* Hours: 3 Drive: 4 WD Horsepower: 74 hp ROPS: Enclosed UNUSED CAT LOADER, QUICK COUPLER, CAB HEAT A/C, GP BUCKET
That makes Stan's loader deal look even better probably. He could get bit in the butt with parts sourcing after a major break-down, but I think he said his Volvo dealer is supporting this import. Re-sale/trade in probably wouldn't be pretty, but if he can run it for 10 snow seasons, maybe resale isn't a such big thing.
Wait for the first major breakdown and then trying to get parts. That I bet is going to be fun. I bought some Chinese equipment some years back and parts were just on nightmare to get.
I'd recomend taking a look at the JCB 907, I got to use it a bit for plowing and snow removal this winter and it is suprizingly nice for its cost. I do not know the exact cost, it was a rental, but heard they are rather inexpensive for what they are. It comes in at 74hp as well i believe, has a very roomy cabin, comfortable to use for hours, had a highway gear option on it, great visability, and good lights. The build quality was very nice as well and it just felt more solidily built then the Wacker Neuson WL60 we also use. Over the two, I'd take the JCB any day. Can't speak on dirt work as the most I've done with it was push up and back brush piles, but it didn't seem to be lacking in power.
The quick connect oil dump is common with large machines...as is the tire stem...volvo gives you an adapter in the tool box or with the service manual....Hitachi iv found them on top of the batterys for some reason
Yeah umm for 64.000 you would have been much better off used deer or cat.. And also had something with resale value. How much depreciation has that Chinese loader accrued? Here's your sign
Business tax write off. 64k+yearly depreciation will make it much cheaper than used and still get to keep new toy. Same thing with building new home get to have government pay about 50% the cost.
I feel like if we supported Chinese companies more often we could get higher quality inexpensive equipment with better service manuals Im glad you gave this one a chance.
@@clownhitter9919 or I could just get in the Volvo loaders that I normally operate... I would gladly take the 1970s Case loaders that I learned on over the piece of garbage that is SDLG
It’s coated with China! Everything from China has a funky smell fresh out the box. I think it’s some sort of of fish oil they use on everything. It’s what gives Harbor Freight its unique smell.
Would you like to have a computerized John Deer which you can not repair yourself? Expensive too. They will tell you how much oil you need to add though.
I'm shocked how expensive equibment is in the US. You will get a nice 6 ton wheelloader from Atlas or other brands for around 65.000€ before taxes. One euro is currently 1,08 Us Dollars
Hell in Australia, you can get the same basic machine for $20k Au brand new, that's about $13500 US, someones getting bent over if they are paying $60000 US for one.... (link not for advertising, just showing I am not BSing.... www.tradeearthmovers.com.au/detail/active-machinery-al916c-733017 ) ETA in case the ad disappears, here's a screenshot of it, blacked out the phone number, dealers name etc as I don't want to be accused of advertising lol i.postimg.cc/MHNx6fgM/Screenshot-from-2020-05-12-13-13-01.png
@@The1337Rainman Most buyers can get it GST tax free, but even if you did have to pay the tax, that's only 10%, so add an extra $2000 Au for it.... (that's why I added the link so people could see for themselves- a yank would say I was lying otherwise LOL)
That’s not a special adapter for the tire air fill. Most large commercial heavy equipment have large bore valve stems. And yes they have a special screw on coupler to drain the oil. After you use it you will wonder why more machines don’t use something similar.
For you guys dealing with this Chinese stuff, I use the Google translate APP on my phone, select camera after it loads then I take a picture of the Chinese writing and then send it to the printer if I need to. Some copiers will translate the whole page, like an owner's manual or service manual.
Got a cheap item, expect cheap results. Further as it gets older will you find replacement parts. of course, will you have something to work on as it delineates. plus, are there junk parts to call on? keep it.
The fact that seeing that it doesn’t have wet brakes and it takes like 3 hours to do 15 minute oil change cause of a bad service guy, I’d stick with a Deere or a Cat or something else. I’d rather pay more to have less headaches, but it’s nice to see how it held up for you; cause now I know the short term problems I would have if I would get one
He was expecting exactly what he got and made an honest review about how he was very happy with it but outlined the negatives and stated if he intended to use it with dirt that it would not have been the right pick? You guys need to rewatch the video.
look in the litte tool kit for a adapter to drain your oil. They are called FENCO fittings.The idea is hot oil control ,need to stop to change your catch pail midstream ,oil sample half way through.Call dealer for the fitting if not able to find one in the toolbox.
Tire fix. Buy a heated tread regroving tool. Pit a single blade no more than 5/16 deep. Cut slots on the tread surface like blizzack tires have. Should improve snow and ice traction. Just a few. Not enough to cause the tread to peel. Gives bite to the ice at front and rear of tire contact patch .
We brought a victory and ace loader both cost about 40 grand each aud. And they are nothing but trouble breaking every second week. Never again we now only buy hyundai and cat loaders now.
My two comments are, the large bore adapter for the tire is common. Second, please grease to loader linkage it makes nuts to hear the noise. Of all the SDLG loaders that 918 is the best. This comes from my local dealer. He has shared nightmare stories of the larger machines. Like each machine that comes in they have two mechanics go over the entire machine to tighten ALL the must and bolt and hose connections. Good luck .
You could pick up a used CAT 906 and get done way more than the chinese loader at the same price, I’m in a CAT908 60 hours a week.... pick a used one up for $80,000 and 1500 hours and you get a very capable machine with all the options
Steve do you know the weight of a Cat 908 think that would be what I want to replace my Bobcat 2410 it is 11000lb without backhoe or 14000 with backhoe thank you
I serviced one like that at work and found a hose that the machine comes with behind the seat that screws onto that oil drain to keep that valve open. FYI
As a Deere guy, for that money, I'd buy a used John Deere 324 with between 3,000 and 5,000 hours. There are a ton of skid loader bucket and implement options for the 324.
Hi Stan, I was very curious about your review. I agree, bells and whistles are nice, but, I have an older John Deere 244E, likely about the same size as yours. It's a very simple machine compared to a brand new one, but being old school, is very simple to work on. Simple to me, usually always equates to less things to go wrong. I totally agree about going cross country. Mine will do about 20 mph on level ground, but hills really slow it down. A mid range gear would make it far better. In your case though, the goofy way to change the oil and non standard valve stems are in-excusable. Also, since they are non standard, the adapters should be included with the machine!
A guy I was working for in Western Australia bought a 12t class wheel loader for $40k new a few years ago. Similarly it was very basic - no computer, no fancy electronics, no B.S. warranty forfeitures. We found we had to change all the oils and the batteries and once we had done that, it was brilliant. It was a copy of a ‘70s Komatsu, so design-wise it can’t get any better. Great geometry, components matched, easy to work on, everything worked like it should. I certainly recommend that brand and model as long as all out production is not your ultimate purpose.
Hey Tu te Kohe what was the make and model of the loader you mentioned in your post
I'm also from W.A and am looking for such a machine just to use on my hobby farm
Regards
Changing the oil makes a lot of sense. Get some quality fluids and battery. Smart .
“Brand new out of the box” I really want to build a fort with that box.
Next episode "we build a cardboard tiny home"
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The larger tire valve stems are standard on most heavy equipment. Nothing special about it. The engine oil drain valve is also standard on most heavy equipment. Deere and Volvo both use the same drain as the SDLG. Sounds like a lot of whining from someone who has no clue what they are even looking at.
no offense but this is what I find most of the time when this channel pop up on my suggested videos. also moaning about power because you brought the smallest engine and not say "maybe I should of brought the bigger engine one" seem unfair plus add blue is coming on everything so your going to have to make the move at some point so dont know why you would use that as your only reason why.
Lol that's what i said.. I think these guys are clueless or their use too operating ancient equipment..
@@TheMarky26 I would pretty much say they they are not really use to operating any equipment this chanel is kind of a joke
doosan have the oildraik just like that i use a peache of hose whit u copler
@@TheMarky26 thats why kubota and case equipment are the most easyist machine out there
that stuff is called cosmolene, its a coating to protect it from sea water on it's travel over. Subaru's that come from Japan have the same stuff on them
Michael Langlie same stuffs on rifles that went to warehouses after the wars.
👍 yup,,, they would coat printing presses and press parts that were shipped from Germany in it.
You're right.. I think it's a type of petroleum jelly. I think it's spelled "line" at the end.
I agree on cosmolene. I worked at several foreign car dealerships in the 80s and cars from overseas always had that protective coating.
@@stevenhorne5089 You;re correct, at least according to Google, 'cosmoline'. A brown wax-like petroleum-based corrosion inhibitors...
Lol thats a quick drain for the oil..They are the best thing ever and its on a lot of American equipment too..
The tire valve adapter is pretty common. The large bore valve is standard in large earthmover tires.
Yes all the loader tractor tires they all have that bigger adapter you go to use.
We had to do the same with Volvo and CAT ADTs. Most air supplies were of the car/automobile size, so needed an adapter to fit.
If it’s made your money back, and then some. Then I’d say it was worth it!
Seems like a good little loader,the fact that it does not use def is more than one reason to own it.i was impressed that it was set up with quick oil change fittings and large air fittings,you can get a air chuck to fit those
0:27 Sounds like you need to find someone who knows how to work a grease gun or you’ll have bigger problems to worry about.....
Every shift, grease the bitch.
he also needs to find out how to operate the loader
@@calebalt1557 I was thinking the same thing as a loader operator with 1500hrs+
On Chinese leaders like this one do ALOT of squeaking trust me I've driven one for three years it's normal
@@bogdeep2175 It's just making new tolerances, normal communist break in then down procedure.
And this is why you buy the big name brands. Service is probably the most important when buying a piece of equipment
That's why i love cat. I can get parts in the middle of a storm when everything is closed. Granted you pay for the convenience, but when time is money it pays for itself.
mfk12340
Yeah and they send mechanics if needed and the stickers aint in chinese lol
Except the John Deere's who make it so you have to use their services.....
@@APPLEPIE978 Yeah I'll never buy a piece of John Deere equipment, same with the apple products.
@@APPLEPIE978 in Europe I've never seen 'Deere' machinery, but lots of volvo cat terex hitachi liebherr doosan.
Wow, I have wondered about that machine!! Can’t believe that you’ve had it for 2 years already!
AMAZINGLY
I thought the same thing! I was like I can’t believe it’s been 2 years!
I thought exactly that: has it been two years already?
I can't believe they have had it two years and it seems to be getting it's first oil change. Or at least that's what it seems like when you can't work the drain or know the amount. Sounds like it still needs its first grease job.
Your oil drain is a volvo quick drain. Volvo owns part of SDLG and alot of this cross over.
The first 'tech' thought he needed to read Chinese to read the electrical diagram/schematic?
They must ALL be Chinese to him then. wow.
If its in Chinese how to do you know what components and color wires what use your brain a little 🤔
Ah.....it's in english. I have no problem reading it:
manualzz.com/doc/6293713/service-manual-maintenance-of-wheel-loader-electrical
I'm a British electronics engineer and Chinese schematics have never been an issues for me . Diagrams are diagrams, for everything else just point your phone at the diagram and google will translate any Chinese text into English for you on the spot.
"It doesn't have the power to deliver on high gear." To be fair, you did intentionally pick the machine 1hp under the DEF limit......
You can turn the horsepower up on that engine that engine is detuned for that machine you can get a lot more horsepower out of that engine
@@dalepaul8153 how do you do that? Thanks
@@alexandergraef8940 go to your nearest injection pump shop and they'll either turn the pump up or chip the computer if it has one any of the machines we imported still had an inline injection pump all we did was turn the pump up and set the governor
@@dalepaul8153 O yeah, make it NASCAR ready !
That oil drain is standard on a lot of Deutz motors. There is a hose that threads on and it actually works really well
Parker Fetters we used to sell a brand at Peterbilt called Femco... a lot of truckers found their oil changes a lot easier
The femco is North American brand and deutz is European the threads on that oil drain are a little different then femco the femco would not work on all the deutz I use to maintain had to get one from deutz dealer had no problem after that.
The big issue for him for the specifics is he just cant get answers from the dealer/company on anything
Reminds me very much of the old JCB 410 we used to have. Simple,basic ,no frills and way way better than doing the work by hand!
"If the schematics weren't in Chinese I could do a better job."
Electricity works the same in English and Chinese. Wiring diagrams are symbol based not linguistically based.
That's exactly what I thought!
Guy blames the machine for not putting snow tires on itself.
Or the manufacturer?
Should've been able to read a wiring diagram no matter what language is in,
No excuse with many Chinese online daily.
Ok boomer
Caleb 23 it's a mark of your generation to believe ignorance is something to be proud of. And you are wrong, I am not a boomer
Or you can just use the photo function on the Google Translate app. May not work too good on Chinese but it will probably give you a rough idea.
@@calebduke8948 what part of his comment made you respond with "ok boomer"? I don't think you know what it means, you just been itching to use it.
Man when I saw those disk brakes it brought back bad memories of old 70-80’s Cat 920 wheel loaders. Give me wet disk of a Deere or Volvo any day.
A few years ago using the Escher staircase as a model and a map of my city I carefully bid jobs that allow me to take my plowing route all downhill and back to my yard. Then UPS suggested that making all Right Hand Turns makes a route even more efficient and so now my route is all uphill. Sigh...
When following an Escher Staircase, you will never reach the bottom step.
This is a prime example of not being smarter than the equipment you are operating. A FEL with Hi/Low gearing isn't meant to be driven on hardball. You need to load it on a trailer to transport from job to job. Those tires need adapters because normal valve stems would be ruined in normal dirt moving operations. Then you'd complain they were cheap and something like what is supplied should have been used. It is 74hp, it is not a 185hp HMEE. You use it for its utility, not at its capacity.
Yup. Bought and fixed then sold user abused equipment. Beat it to death then complain that it costs a lot to repair then sale it as a broken POS to someone like me who can turn a wrench and make a very good profit selling it when fixed. Made plenty of coin doing that.
Thats what happens world over buy a machine smaller than required and not specified for purpose work it to death on applications it wasn't designed for and then complain that it's crap.
normal valve stems are 100% fine in dirt moving operations as long as the have a cap on them, the larger valve stem is so that it is quicker to fill up the tire because it takes a while to fill it up with the smaller one
Is the bigger valve stem also meant to accommodate powder to be put into the tire for weight when needed?
I agree
I’ve seen that style drain plug on semi’s before, it threads on like a garden hose and then it has a piece of hose hanging down to direct the flow. As you screw it on it pushes the valve open and starts to drain. It’s actually a convenient way to drain oil.
No-Spill systems !
Super common on large equipment
The residue that is on the machine is most likely some sort of wax to prevent rusting, they use this when they ship them from overseas.
I have run into this residue on RVs in the '90s. It was caused by a reaction between cheap rubber and acid rain, the only ways we could get rid of it was 1 chemicals so harsh we needed a special lic. for or 2 a buffer and rubbing compound neither of which were practical. I am not sure if the current ones are the same but I would not doubt that cheap chinese equipment is using the old formula crap.
It's cosmoline
8:30 i believe you need the drain adapter, it's a screw on part normally with a attached hose so you dont make a mess.
8:50 Its is called a "Big Bore" valve stem, all loading shovels have them, You can get the screw on adaptors like you got, or get an airline end to fit.
It's still cheaper than a new Skid Steer for moving snow, plus you can put a larger pusher on it. If I had a snow moving operation I would really appreciate the visibility that comes from being up high in a cab as opposed to nestled in a SSL
For the oil changes you might look into a vacuum oil extractor, it can suck the oil out of the fill hole and not have to mess with a drain plug
Coating may be a protective rust coating when it's sent over on the ship from overseas. Dealers are supposed to wash that off prior to delivery
Yup thats the way to go.
Cosmoline. Rust inhibitor. Good stuff. Honda has been using it for ever.
Deutz engine is pronounce “doytz” like toys, not dootz like toots.
@krabbi , you were probably the reason hall monitors were needed.
Haha glad to see it wasn't just me it bugged 😂
i just figured it was the chinese clone
John Smith don’t be a Deutschbag
@@smokingbluedream Ha! I think you meant 'Deutz-bag'..!
That is a common equipment drain valve by No-Spill Systems, the air valve takes a 3/8" chuck due to the volume of air the tire takes and not the 1/4 inch one that you adapted it too. Your Deutz engine oil capacity changed depending on application, that is why they can't just tell you off the top of their heads with out the ESN(Engine Serial Number) and access to the built specifications for the ESN. That grim on your machine is a protective coating that is applied before it is shipped to prevent salt water corrosion and if you use the proper cleaning method for machines, de-greasers properly mixed and a steam cleaner. I have worked one Chinese built machines for a rental company where we were the only company to have them and I have worked on CAT, Deere, JCB, Kubota, Yanmar, Doosan, and many others. This seems like a normal run of the mill loader experience you would have with any manufacturer, the only issue is that you seem to lack understanding and experience.
That little valve for the oil drain is call an ecology valve. Get yourself a pipe nipped close to that size and you can screw it in the to one it up to drain easier. Cat equipment those too on certain pieces of equipment for example D7 and D8 have those on the transmission drain.
Yeah, it says more about the people using it. Get yourself the right tools.
Yeah thats what theyre called! I've gotten so used to calling them gynecology drains at work I forgot the real name. lol. I keep several hoses and adapters on my service truck to fit all the drains on cat equipment. Its nice to route the hose directly into a bucket and not make a mess too
@@eaveskc hell yea brother.
I am here to say hoses rattle lose can definitely happen on other new equipment. my $140,000 weiler paver had lines come loose all over the machine and when they came loose, they ruined the o rings. I don't think it should be like that, but it is.... after going through and replacing all the o rings with high pressure o rings and tightening everything, its a pretty good machine.
At a old job are 300k case wheel loaders loved to loosen its own lines, mostly the ones under the cab in the hard to reach area naturally.
Extremely hard to beat Weiler pavers though.
Unless it’s an F series Cat of course.
Being under powered isn't the loaders fault it's how you wanted it to dodge def laws . 2 it's high lo box is just that not for all situations but would be perfect for a landscape yard . As for the electric issues get another tech he's useless it's only the wording in Chinese the wiring diagram is the same the world over. And contact Volvo FOR the oil drain tool. We have a 6 month old cat loader that's had way more issues than that.
I work at a mine with a cat dealer so close that we've got a dedicated private road from the mine to the dealer. There has been brand new equipment that couldn't make the 10 mile trip without breakdowns / issues.
@@markrahkola3365 no way
@@manuelvergara8944 I'm not making it up. It's usually "little" issues. Electrical, injector o rings leaking, e.t.c. but it's enough to shut the equipment down till it gets repaired.
Chinese wiring uses green as batt negative and black as frame negative
@@doubleagent6951 thanks
7:40 I took 5 seconds and google searched L918F Wheel Loader oil and found this: www.sdlgna.com/images/brochures/L918F-Wheel-Loader-Brochure.pdf So 2.6 gallons or 10 liters.
congrats- I googled it and didn't find it for 10 minutes. Your google skills beats my google skills
@@Dirtmonkey oh my. 10 minutes? So much wasted time. I definitely shouldn't buy this. What a trashy company
Saltyyyyyyy
@@nmmxiii9389 no kidding! People are so disrespectful. Where's their channel, with daily content? Full of their expert knowledge delivered flawlessly with zero human error ever?
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“You get what you pay for”
Sometimes you don't get what you paid for.
I mean all of his complaints sound like simple issues all brands have
"with only a low and high gear, it doesn't give you many gear options" Let me count them for you. (It's two.)
'with only 74 horsepower you have to shift to low gear when climbing a hill". Didn't you purposely get the 74 horsepower model? (because you wanted not even one more horse?)
its because anything over 75hp has to have EGR system for emmisons he's working around that
@@MaryJaneismyGF Look up and listen.
That distant sound is it going over your head.
To make it easy for him, he can take his shoes and socks off (1 foot + 1 foot) bingo 2, that's 2 foot short of a yard stick. LOL
If you can only afford spending 64,000 for a loader, you should not expect getting one worth 120,000 .
For 65K this thing is a dream. Fantastic machine for the money. A 4 series JD compact tractor with a cab will cost you that much. Guessing they are no longer 65K, but probably not much more than 70K. Still a great deal from what I can see.
They didn't know how many quarts of oil it takes "off the top of their head"...
My next sentence to them would be, 'well, then look it up!'
I can't believe it's been 2 years already! I appreciate the update on it. It was a big help. Thanks
Glad it helped!
We have Volvo’s and the valve stems are much larger and require a reducer adapter. We also have a short hose that threads on the oil drain and opens it.
Thanks as a guy starting out your videos are very helpful!
You’re going to be fine if all your jobs are downhill😂🤣👍
What goes down must go back up I would think. 🤷🏻♂️
@@CoastConcreteCorp Unless you're driving from Texas to Colorado. Don't know how but I swear it's uphill both ways lol.
Just get a chip tune for the thing. Shut fix it
Beat me to it.
At some point you'll find yourself doing a job for satan himself.
The original design for these was a Portland Oregon company back in the ‘50’s. I just bought one built in 1963 and somebody used it for mining and cut the roof off. I got it for $1500 here in Alaska and it has a Dodge in-line six and killer power
Did you buy a Wagner MS-1?!
Headframe Hunters it was called a “Scopmobile”
@@andybrooke1961 Yeah, I've seen those. I would have been seriously impressed if you picked up an MS-1 for $1500.
Driving from job to job on roads is going to hurt when replacing tires.
I have the same machine the best way to get that off is purple power. My service guy told me it was from when they shipped it from China they put a coat of oil wax on it to prevent it from rusting when it’s in the storage containers coming overseas. I have On the machine for five years and still trying to get it off. This video is spot on about the machine great snowmachine and great mulching machine absolutely horrible in the dirt.
Best with any loader,especially underpowered is to follow the face of the pile up to load bucket,as opposed to jamming it into pile..Use more rpms.Does that loader not have a neutralizer switch for loading?Even the best loader sucks in snow without winter tires.Difference is incredible
You won't beat a JCB digger for versatility. Their worth the money in the long run.
I’ve got a 2012 jcb sitting at the yard with a blown engine
That’s all or most wheeloader engines no power to go up hills in high gear
Especially TTC machines. Hydrostatics do much better on hills, but are more sensitive to fluid quality.
Larger equipment use those valve stems it's to fill the tires quicker.
I'm not gonna bash your operators, they are good especially on those skid steers. Better technique on even a weak loader would make it far more productive.
Not a bad machine in other words.Good video guys!
Yup! Thanks
I bought a used Chinese tractor a couple years ago, I’ll never make that mistake again
good channel. fun to see the china tractor. I went and looked at one just because I was so eager to buy one a few years ago.
but I went and looked. and made a movie available on youtube. thought of a return visit in a year. for and see if it holds 😅 in and check. there are subtitles
Stan, I think when it was sent over from China, they may have sprayed it down with cosmoline. The same stuff new tires have on them. Never having need for a bath, it probably baked on over the two years you have had it. 👍👍
I don't know what a comparable Cat/Deere/Volvo loader would've cost, but they're all pretty proud of their iron. Stan might eventually regret buying this thing, but far as I can tell he doesn't. For better or worse this COVID China VS USA thing will be old news in a year. In fact the Chinese are probably loading US bound container ships as we speak. Maybe some US companies will pull some production back home, but Americans are addicted to cheaper off-shore stuff. We can wish it were different. I edited to show this ad I found..seems to be comparable in some ways.
2019 CAT 906M/wheel loader
For Sale Price: USD $77,900
Purchase today for
USD $1,309.13/monthly*
Hours: 3
Drive: 4 WD
Horsepower: 74 hp
ROPS: Enclosed
UNUSED CAT LOADER, QUICK COUPLER, CAB HEAT A/C, GP BUCKET
A 906 is much smaller. This is similar to a 910.
That makes Stan's loader deal look even better probably. He could get bit in the butt with parts sourcing after a major break-down, but I think he said his Volvo dealer is supporting this import. Re-sale/trade in probably wouldn't be pretty, but if he can run it for 10 snow seasons, maybe resale isn't a such big thing.
This Chinese loader looks good... But i think all the force abuse it take it might end breaking often..
Sad thing, nobody makes a American made compact loader. JD is made in New Zealand, Case is made Austria and so on so on.
yet another 2 years later...
Wait for the first major breakdown and then trying to get parts.
That I bet is going to be fun.
I bought some Chinese equipment some years back and parts were just on nightmare to get.
Nice! I'd love to have one of those! Great video Stan #stoneyridgefarmer
Right on-Thanks brother!
No thanks...I will pay the money and buy American or buy used if I can't afford new.
The coating on the loader is to protect it when shipping on a boat over seas from salt and corrosion
Gasoline to remove?
@@andreab6271 Yes just pour gasoline on it and add fire to remove the coating.
A little more money and you get a svl-95 2 and that's skid is a beast load just as much as that thing
Joshua Lacross only issue is you will never push a 17ft plow with any skid. Snow removal is the only thing he bought this machine
Ya a 95 good machine not a 90. That's why you buy a machine that's a leader and or the first Takeuchi.
the R630 kubota is same size but powerful and easy service wich why love kubota
@@nickscustoms269 a 95-2 could push one no problem just gotta be smarter with it
I'd recomend taking a look at the JCB 907, I got to use it a bit for plowing and snow removal this winter and it is suprizingly nice for its cost. I do not know the exact cost, it was a rental, but heard they are rather inexpensive for what they are. It comes in at 74hp as well i believe, has a very roomy cabin, comfortable to use for hours, had a highway gear option on it, great visability, and good lights. The build quality was very nice as well and it just felt more solidily built then the Wacker Neuson WL60 we also use. Over the two, I'd take the JCB any day. Can't speak on dirt work as the most I've done with it was push up and back brush piles, but it didn't seem to be lacking in power.
You should do a video of all your equipment and trucks etc. Interested what a company of your size has in its fleet
Thanks for the suggestion Derek !
The quick connect oil dump is common with large machines...as is the tire stem...volvo gives you an adapter in the tool box or with the service manual....Hitachi iv found them on top of the batterys for some reason
Yeah umm for 64.000 you would have been much better off used deer or cat..
And also had something with resale value. How much depreciation has that Chinese loader accrued? Here's your sign
Business tax write off. 64k+yearly depreciation will make it much cheaper than used and still get to keep new toy. Same thing with building new home get to have government pay about 50% the cost.
I feel like if we supported Chinese companies more often we could get higher quality inexpensive equipment with better service manuals Im glad you gave this one a chance.
I've spent an hour in an SDLG and hated every second on it. The fit and finish alone of that thing was horrible
Well go get your own loader..yaa whiner..
@@clownhitter9919 or I could just get in the Volvo loaders that I normally operate... I would gladly take the 1970s Case loaders that I learned on over the piece of garbage that is SDLG
It’s coated with China! Everything from China has a funky smell fresh out the box. I think it’s some sort of of fish oil they use on everything. It’s what gives Harbor Freight its unique smell.
Hey stan theres a google translate app that literally translates with the phones camera, it works pretty good.
You have never actually tried that with a service manual have you? It STILL won't make sense for the majority of techs.
@@MRIsomewhaereguy its better than nothing and yes, i have tried it. Its srill easier to read than scribly lines
@@MRIsomewhaereguy have used google translate to fix a Japanese machine that no one knew how to fix. I have a video on my channel.
Great guys! Thank you, chalk another thing learned today. :)
All loaders and graders use those big tire valve stems.
Would you like to have a computerized John Deer which you can not repair yourself? Expensive too.
They will tell you how much oil you need to add though.
I've been waiting for this video to come out since you bought it. Looking forward to watching later.
Hope you enjoy it!
@@Dirtmonkey better than I expected, thanks for the update!
I'm shocked how expensive equibment is in the US. You will get a nice 6 ton wheelloader from Atlas or other brands for around 65.000€ before taxes. One euro is currently 1,08 Us Dollars
Hell in Australia, you can get the same basic machine for $20k Au brand new, that's about $13500 US, someones getting bent over if they are paying $60000 US for one.... (link not for advertising, just showing I am not BSing.... www.tradeearthmovers.com.au/detail/active-machinery-al916c-733017 )
ETA in case the ad disappears, here's a screenshot of it, blacked out the phone number, dealers name etc as I don't want to be accused of advertising lol
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@@steved2136 thats crazy!
@@The1337Rainman Most buyers can get it GST tax free, but even if you did have to pay the tax, that's only 10%, so add an extra $2000 Au for it.... (that's why I added the link so people could see for themselves- a yank would say I was lying otherwise LOL)
@@The1337Rainman be no good for him though- its got 100hp and a four speed transmission ;-)
Been waiting for this vid. Next vid please be review on all the trucks in your fleet and past trucks you've owned!
Thanks for suggesting Nathan !
That’s not a special adapter for the tire air fill. Most large commercial heavy equipment have large bore valve stems. And yes they have a special screw on coupler to drain the oil. After you use it you will wonder why more machines don’t use something similar.
Thanks for the update been thinking about looking at one for the farm
No problem 👍
when you make enough money, you can play around with money. ie buying this.
I mean the guy uses it for work.
@@MustObeyTheRules exactly-it's an ASSET because it makes him money
For you guys dealing with this Chinese stuff, I use the Google translate APP on my phone, select camera after it loads then I take a picture of the Chinese writing and then send it to the printer if I need to. Some copiers will translate the whole page, like an owner's manual or service manual.
Got a cheap item, expect cheap results. Further as it gets older will you find replacement parts. of course, will you have something to work on as it delineates. plus, are there junk parts to call on? keep it.
Go to a Deere dealer and ask for a oil drain hose for a 324j, it looks right the right fitting. It screws on to drain no holding required
The fact that seeing that it doesn’t have wet brakes and it takes like 3 hours to do 15 minute oil change cause of a bad service guy, I’d stick with a Deere or a Cat or something else. I’d rather pay more to have less headaches, but it’s nice to see how it held up for you; cause now I know the short term problems I would have if I would get one
What loader do you have?
@@clownhitter9919 are you Chinese? Can't see any other reason you would be so defense about this garbage brand.
No.. just asked what kind of loader the spud have.
you are going to have a bunch of headaches with any brand.
Clown Hitter I don’t personally own any, I run loaders like that one for a living but 3x bigger
The stuff on the machine is transit coating. So it won’t get messed up from salt on the trip from China and sitting in dealer inventory.
well the Chinese will be thinking "What is a quart"
Well, the spec sheet from their website lists 10 liters or 2.6 gallons. Wondering why they haven't looked into that 🤔
We were looking at the same machine you own, so glad we bought a 908m from Cat. But it is more expensive $99k
It’s a small hydrostatic tractor ..... I don’t know what you’re expecting
He was expecting exactly what he got and made an honest review about how he was very happy with it but outlined the negatives and stated if he intended to use it with dirt that it would not have been the right pick?
You guys need to rewatch the video.
First parade servicing is so important to the life of any piece of equipment
9.40 that stuff on the paint looks like shipping wax was never removed at pdi :(
look in the litte tool kit for a adapter to drain your oil. They are called FENCO fittings.The idea is hot oil control ,need to stop to change your catch pail midstream ,oil sample half way through.Call dealer for the fitting if not able to find one in the toolbox.
Good lord buy a grease gun that would drive me crazy
That's the brakes I don't think it would stop very fast after greasing those
The pins were shooting out sparks
Tire fix. Buy a heated tread regroving tool. Pit a single blade no more than 5/16 deep. Cut slots on the tread surface like blizzack tires have. Should improve snow and ice traction. Just a few. Not enough to cause the tread to peel. Gives bite to the ice at front and rear of tire contact patch .
We brought a victory and ace loader both cost about 40 grand each aud. And they are nothing but trouble breaking every second week. Never again we now only buy hyundai and cat loaders now.
My two comments are, the large bore adapter for the tire is common.
Second, please grease to loader linkage it makes nuts to hear the noise.
Of all the SDLG loaders that 918 is the best. This comes from my local dealer. He has shared nightmare stories of the larger machines. Like each machine that comes in they have two mechanics go over the entire machine to tighten ALL the must and bolt and hose connections.
Good luck .
if the cheap chinese loader is 64 grand what would a Case or CAT loader cost ? 🤔
Upwards of 350000
For that size prolly around $125grand-ish
@@seth3366 upwards of 350000? Is that in pesos? Oh wait, it must be RMB, since the SLDG is Chinese. LOL. No, a 15k lb cat doesn't cost $350k.
You could pick up a used CAT 906 and get done way more than the chinese loader at the same price, I’m in a CAT908 60 hours a week.... pick a used one up for $80,000 and 1500 hours and you get a very capable machine with all the options
Steve do you know the weight of a Cat 908 think that would be what I want to replace my Bobcat 2410 it is 11000lb without backhoe or 14000 with backhoe thank you
Do u think u might consider demoing some jcb equipment such as the jcb 1cx skid steer backhoe or some of the loaders and telehandlers
Cat dozers use some of those oil valves as well.
John deere and Volvo machines have that style of drain for the engine. They sell a hose adapter for them
Throw some nokian tri2’s on that thing and it’ll be a whole new animal!
I serviced one like that at work and found a hose that the machine comes with behind the seat that screws onto that oil drain to keep that valve open. FYI
To bad you brought Chinese YOU GET WHAT YOU BUY
As a Deere guy, for that money, I'd buy a used John Deere 324 with between 3,000 and 5,000 hours. There are a ton of skid loader bucket and implement options for the 324.
Hi Stan,
I was very curious about your review. I agree, bells and whistles are nice, but, I have an older John Deere 244E, likely about the same size as yours. It's a very simple machine compared to a brand new one, but being old school, is very simple to work on. Simple to me, usually always equates to less things to go wrong.
I totally agree about going cross country. Mine will do about 20 mph on level ground, but hills really slow it down. A mid range gear would make it far better.
In your case though, the goofy way to change the oil and non standard valve stems are in-excusable. Also, since they are non standard, the adapters should be included with the machine!
Sounds like we are thinking along the same lines
Great video Stan