@@linkskywalker5417 Goes to show when you're the most powerful person around, you can afford to not care about being serious. Formalities are for those who follow the rules, not for those who make them.
@@EmptyMan000 Is that why toddlers appear far more serious than their parents half the time? As well as why bosses are goofballs while their subordinates are so serious?
...seven people. The seven guardians of light. That couldn't win on their own but needed help from a lot of others. Of course he friggin knew, OH THAT ASSHOLE.
@Biluga420 Spoilers, but Yeah, Braig is Luxu. He kept reincarnating himself in new bodies to live on and carry the MoM's will, and Braig was his newest host.
@Biluga420 yeah, they're similar but the only scene we have of Braig is his encounter with Terra and he just acted like some random guy hired by Xehanort, one of those guys who only care about the money. We still don't know when Luxu approached Braig to possess him or what they talked about.
@Biluga420 maybe the possessed person retains half of his personality so Braig had 50% himself + 50% Luxu. Kinda symbolized by the eye patch + I'm already half Xehanort (which is irrelevant in this case but...he said half)
@@lucyhardy-styles-shield2728 I feel bad people don’t like Noctis’ voice actor even though he did great as MoM, really tells you the potential he has and how he’s developed
His cadence reminds of the guy from Total Drama Island "Ok guys, I heard from an anonymous source that one of your hearts have sunk into darkness. Not. Cool. Dudes."
He seems to be a complex person On one hand he seemed to orchestrate the end of the world, using his own apprentices to make it happen On the other hand, he helped preserve and restart the world through Ava, the Dandelions, and the Keyblade being passed on into modern times One can argue because he saw the future he knew the Keyblade War was inevitable, instead of preventing it, he worked with history to make sure life would survive But he seemed to have his own plans Still it seems he’s both a good and bad guy at this point
@@arbaazkhan934 That's a cop out for people who don't have the mind to imagine better choices to make. Choosing choices you know are bad is not a sign of making tough but right decisions, but a sign you messed up big and lack the skill to do better.
@@EmptyMan000 one often meets their destiny on the road they take to avoid it. Rather than trying to do something to prevent it and causing everything to end he found a way to let the destruction happen and still ensure people survive
@@stampoulisrafail7836 I hope they do. because if the next arc requires it i'm gonna be mad. even 3 did have some union x lore but the major stuff was in back cover.
I love how incredibly casual and irreverent he is. He's such a unique maybe-villain for this franchise, Xigbar probably being the closest we've had to him so far (for multiple reasons, including the obvious spoiler reasons). I can't wait to hopefully see a lot more of him in the next phase of the story, if only to hear more of Ray Chase's phenomenal performance.
Actually, he is quite wise (in a different way) if you observe his words and actions carefully. His otherwise manchild attitude is probably just the cover he maintain to hide his true personality.
We all thought someone who is really old with a merlin/Yensid deal. But nah, I think he's early 30's with a humored out look on like, favorite uncle deal.
SPOILERS: I just love the fact that MoM started the Keyblade war and got his foretellers killed, but there was actual purpose behind his plan. The trap the darkness entities into the foretellers so they become killable
I thought how it's probably the master of masters is Sora theory. I believe that Kairi is sort of like a reincarnation of Ava or something close to that, their personalities are similar and the color pink also is what resembles them both. I also think that Sora is the Master of Masters from the future and is trying to save Ava from the same fate of what happens to Kairi in the future. He went in time to the past just to change everything of all the future events to come. And well.. that's just my theory.
@@jazzwilton8199 I think namine might be ava’s roxas being part of kairi there has to be a reason namine looks different considering the sora and roxas situation with ven
@@myoldchannel0 No, I meant the archetype of a joker, including moe girls who are comic relief types. Because sometimes, there's more to comic relief characters than meets the eye.
I wouldn't be surprised if the box was empty because whatever isn't meant to go in it doesn't exist yet, or something has to be put into it later at a very specific point. Maybe it's a vessel to hold all the darknesses?
Master of masters is obviously Pride/Superbia. His name is quite arrogant. But i what love about him is he uses other peoples ego instead of his ego to do his bidding. "May your heart be your guiding key" Ego right there. Pride the deadliest Sins of all.
"May your heart be your guiding key". I guess when you think about it, when you always rely on your sense of personal justice and assume that YOU are in the right, acting on your emotions alone and never logic or reasoning, and you refute the personal justice of others to enforce yours, that COULD be treated as Ego. It's brilliant in scope. ... And so the fandom moves a little closer in trying to figure out what this guy is really after.
Ventus was confirmed pure light and the master was hinted at being light in remind. Darkness called the master its old friend (vanitas and ven) and they both form the x blade. Vanitas relates to pride (the masters sin) I think the master is ven and vanitas or pure light and darkness joined. They could have grown and ended up in a time loop.
It could explain why Ava has seemed so... off in the newer updates on HKUX. If she had no heart as of now, her strange actions and her presumable relations to darkness might have a new layer.
The look on Aced's face at 10:40 was just...XD Then the Master of Masters repeats himself, and gets freaked out by Aced's outburst LOL "Speak up if you're listening! That was embarrassing for me!" ROFL! Rather than being sulky about not being chosen for the leader role, I think that Aced is more distressed at the fact of the Master leaving them more than anything. The other LOLzy moment was with Gula at 13:27. MoM has quite the humorous side. Definitely a character that is worthy of an Academy Award performance.
The box contains the Masters Heartless. When a Heartless and Nobody are slain, the original person they used to be is revived. He's using it as a way to revive himself in the present
Yeah because if he is strong like the organization 13 members, then he would look like himself as a nobody and won’t age. Then when his nobody and heartless (that’s in the box) are destroyed, he will be revived
Only Luxu knew what was really going down when the Master told him about his real plans. Of course at first Luxu could barely accept any of it as it was just insane to start with, but hundreds (thousands) of years later after many body jumping from one to the next all alone, he couldn’t care less as Xigbar.
The Master of Masters seems so burnt out by not being included in the Deadly Sins gang because the only one left is pride, and all the names are the first part of each sin's Latin translation, and pride in Latin is superbia. If we're following the naming conventions, the Master of Master's real name is either Sup, Super or Superb. I, for one, will refer to him as Sup until further information is provided.
@@-B4sh- nah... vanitas just means empty or worthlessness. That’s why his keyblade is called void gear. Xehanort made him from Ventus’ darkness to artificially make kingdom hearts to get the x-blade. Let vanitas stay dead I already got nightmares of his remnant destroying my lv1 crit terra.
@@cubethepixel3025 Ventus was confirmed pure light and the master was hinted at being light in remind. Darkness called the master its old friend (vanitas and ven) and they both form the x blade. Vanitas relates to pride (the masters sin) I think the master is ven and vanitas or pure light and darkness joined. They could have grown and ended up in a time loop.
@@getnmoutthegod1697 ? Xigbar is Luxu, so Luxu here is in fact Xigbar cause Luxu is Xigbar. Saying seeing the original Braig here as a young lad would be wrong.
@@wagonfoundation7100 Sora is however currently a young fellow. The master of masters seems to be old or at least way into Adulthood. Sora has displayed plenty of playful behavior until shit hits the fan though. So the theory of him being the master of masters could hold some weight if he caused himself to be reborn.
i dont think MoM is a bad guy. very interesting detail at 10:34- 10:35 how he squeezes/grips his hands when Aced cries "does that mean you will no longer be teaching us?" the way MoM squeezes his hands is like it saddens him to hear that from Aced and what he has to say after because he knows how much his departure will hurt Aced so i dont think MoM is a bad guy
Call me crazy, but hear me out. With all that talk of "fading" and "disappearing", his ability to see into the future, how nonchalant he is, the creation of dream and nightmare spirits as well as being able to create keyblades for others, I have my own personal theory. What if the Master of Masters is an avatar of Kingdom Hearts? In other words, Kingdom Hearts given flesh
I’ve also had this theory. It’s possible. He even low key compares himself to Kingdom hearts when he’s talking to ira “People believe the light that is kingdom hearts will be here forever, but if it were to DISAPPEAR, the world would be enveloped in darkness”
@@Z-A-C There's also his words regarding the purpose of Keyblades. "Oh, it's not for protecting Kingdom Hearts." As well as him giving his keyblade no name at all and his conversation with Young Xehanort in a cutscene in KH3. Why would YX be so shocked to hear his name unless it was a name that he wouldn't expect to hear from a *person* ?
"On that faded land a great war will transpire. Darkness will prevail and the light expire." I mean it did for a few seconds till sora rewrote the passage with the power of awakening.
3:30 that passage was the ending of kingdom hearts 3. So the book of prophecies ended there since light perished. They changed the future because of the dandelions. And so does that mean the book of prophecies changed since light prevails?
Unlikely. Xehanort was still wielding the no name so the Master of Masters would have seen the battle between Xehanort and Sora. And it’s obvious from the ending that Luxu got a lot of info the other didnt, probably a entirely different volume of the book.
@@thedeerking7220 Luxu didn't get a book whatsoever, the reason that he has more info than the others is simply because he knows what the Master's "Gazing Eye" actually is, while the others had no idea that he literally saw the future (hence why Ava and Ira kept thinking they could change it and why Gula thought he could actually find the traitor before they acted). Luxu knew Ava was the traitor the second she appeared to him above Daybreak Town, which is why he tells her about his role and the Master's intentions. Luxu might even know more than the Master, considering he was able to transfer his heart without a Keyblade, as he didn't have 1 for 100s-1000s of years after he passed it down, although the Master was able to keep his original form for that exact same amount of time without aging...
"The truth is what you see with your eyes, not what you hear." -Master of Masters, KH3 Remind Now we have a couple options to think about here. Is everything written in the Book of Prophesies true or did the Master of Masters write some garbage within it to throw his students off? Based on his eccentric personality, I can believe that he's willing to put in the time to do the later. Sadly we will not get this information yet until future installments establish who the Master of Master is and what he gains from all of this.
He was trying to see if he could turn everyone against eachother, and after seeing the darkness in their hearts, he decided that the whole organization was a failure. None of them turned down his offer to find a traitor. They also were more worried about their roles🙄
I have a slightly different opinion. In most mythologies, knowing the future is usually what causes it to happen. He gave them their roles and worded them in a way that would inevitably cause them to clash. Like what he told Aced. He let him believe that he was meant to take over when Ira strayed or failed in his role. He wanted this to happen, he set the stage and watched the show unfold
@@TVHead003THIS!!! I believe Sora isn't MoM due to not going with his character. Sora doesn't do that and even if he did like timeless river, he has swore a secret(albeit via goofy shutting him up) and other times before hand. Sora is the type of Guy who will do the most for his friends at the cost of his mental health. MoM is someone who uses future events and carefully placed wording to see the desire outcome he wanted.
So noctis became yozora and now is a future version of sora who is a past version of the Mom who is the real antagonist of the game who has like 120 versions of himself or something which most of'em lived inside his heart and got revived yeah noctis you silly goose Which mean yozora=noctis=Mom=sora=xion=roxas=ventus=vanitas (lmao)
Honestly I half expect that MoM is an alternate timeline Noctis, which Yozora also definitely is, as well as Yozora likely being an alternate Sora, and then these three just end up all being some variation of Sora. Because I know Nomura seems to love fucking with us.
Why does the MoM reminds me so much of Sora. I can totally imagine him being a grown up Sora with his still funny but somewhat dark personality due to everything he went through or is going to go through (in future kh games) as he grows up. Also talking about disappearing and what not. Which Sora did experience at one point. I'm not super informed with the whole kh plot so don't come at me with your kh facts. I'm just having fun here theorising. This makes sense to my limited knowledge.
Honestly I can't see him NOT being Sora at this point. Everything about him screams Sora and with how much Sora went through even before KH3, after KH3 he is bound to be affected by things and him becoming a bit... eccentric seems like a less alarming development for his character.
I have a feeling that whatever that box is, it’s BOUND to be opened inevitably. If not the foretellers themselves, then by any manner of good or bad guy. Pete and Maleficent WERE hunting it themselves. And going into wordplay here, the MoM explicitly states that “you”, or rather, “Luxu” was to never open the box. I’d take it as standing orders to ensure NONE are to open it as well, but with all things in this series, take that with a pinch of salt.
@@tahutheprotector6988 Well..having been able to see where the games have ended up, and hearing Master of Masters' theme from the OST, consider this (also spoilers, just in case!): MoM's theme is an insane melody; rapidly playing piano with arguably some terrifying strings playing, a collection of chaos if you will, almost as if the theme represents a character of a chaotic sort. It might just be me, but doesn't MoM seem like a character who is fairly insane? Like a man who knows too much, has seen so much, that such knowledge has driven him a bit crazy? A mind of discord given a theme of chaotic synergy, in a way it does make sense. And then, his theme plays only once in this 'movie': when he's with Luxu (who we know is Xigbar now), who acts almost the same as MoM does? Luxu also seems like someone who's sort of lost his mind as he fulfilled his role over the many MANY years; comparing how he acts here to how he's been acting onward, his personality has changed radically. From fairly straightforward and serious to much more carefree and flamboyant. He now has a personality similar to MoM now, almost as if MoM's theme has a connection between him and Luxu. This could all be a just a massive stretch, but maybe it'll make sense in some way!
I have to say, the Master of Masters saying to not to focus on preventing the war, but focusing onwhat comes next is rather refreshing in JRPG terms. Pretty much ALL JPRGs is about preventing the prophecy of the end of the world, but he just saying "Ah, that! Don't worry about it, let's it happen and focus onf the aftermath."
It's an interesting contrast to the classic Greek tragedy of trying to prevent your fate. If you try, you'll either fail or even CAUSE it. So instead, he's focusing on the aftermath. *How things can get fixed after the prophecised fate.*
This Master of Masters is a complete mystery. He seems to have a good heart, but has some dark ulterior motives behind everything. He acts like a goofball, but speaks in wisdom and humor. I wonder what he’s after?
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I was not expecting this top notch tier of a voice actor from kingdom fucking hearts
@ I wish we just got the jp version with accurate subtitles. It's feels like we get worse version every game but we shouldn't let this get us down since we can look up the differences in this internet era and not let this ruin our prespective of the story.
If this guy ends up being Demyx, I am going to be genuinely upset. Not only does he joke around in a different way than Demyx AND actually is more intelligent than he lets on (unlike Demyx), but I also just want a new character to be the mastermind. Nomura seems to like the notion of keeping a lot of the old Org. Members. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, I actually enjoy what he's doing with them so far, but I just want a new big bad for a new saga. Not some familiar face that was "secretly planning something the whole time *wink, wink*". Anybody else feel me?
Good news, it seems very likely that MoM and Demyx are two different people. They released a bunch of short stories for each character and Demyx’ story actually talks about MoM in his like he’s met him before, but they’re both defined as separate people. Unless they do time travel or something to make MoM a separate version of Demyx, I don’t think they’re the same guy. Also crossing my fingers MoM is someone new under the hood.
What if demyx is the master of master's nobody? Just think we all know that Roxes is sora's nobody and xemnas is xehanort's nobody and namine is kairi's nobody
Ventus was confirmed pure light and the master was hinted at being light in remind. Darkness called the master its old friend (vanitas and ven) and they both form the x blade. Vanitas relates to pride (the masters sin) I think the master is ven and vanitas or pure light and darkness joined. They could have grown and ended up in a time loop.
For those of you saying that the Master is future Sora or future Luxu, I think I’ve thought of something……. What if both are right? What happened with Xehanort and Terra, what if the same thing happened, like Luxu leaving Xigbars body and trying to hijack Soras. And that body is the Master of Masters?!?! Honestly this theory terrifies me but it was the best one I could come up with.
That is a interesting theory. And from what we already know with Terras body, his voice changed when xehanort took control. If being both right, that is both interesting, but scary.
Notice how out of all his apprentices, he is completely serious with Ava. All the others, he maintains a sense of humour and mystery. But with Ava, he keeps a consistent tone throughtout their meeting.
Ava had the most important role. All the others had roles that didn't mean much except for causing friction and distrust. Ava had to create the dandelions who would leave the world when the Keyblade War begin, to ensure the light wouldn't expire. Her failing means the world ended so he needed to be strait forward and direct in order for her to remained focuses and grasp how serious it was.
@@Sephiroth766 I think the others were meant to serve as distractions to the darkness, so he needed Ava to keep a low profile and avoid drawing attention to herself. She needed to know that he was serious and that her role was the most important to securing a better future,
Probably a greater-scope villain first, with Luxu and the four Foretellers being the primary big bads for the next set of games in this saga. Then, he takes up the center stage as the ultimate big bad in the last installment of the saga.
But like like he does care about the world thought on what comes after so yeah wait😨 I just had a crazy thought if you guys didn't know theirs a glitch with the picture and young xehanort when he uses his armor he had the same eye as master of masters what if it isn't a glitch and he time traveled to the past and became the master of masters mind blown😱
Listening to Master of Masters voice and mannerisms always reminds me of a less sociopathic Handsome Jack. Lol just realized it's the same voice actor as Rhys from Tales from the Borderlands.
i hope the master of masters is someone we dont know yet. because we know luxu, yet his voice is totally different. luxu and xigbar/braig dont sound similar in any way i think the MoM has an amazing voice and i would hate for them to change it later on because its a char we know alrdy. and then ofc... how did sora come across to say the line "may your heart be your guiding key" that is weird
Sora came across it because Master Yen Sid said the line when he got his new attire after the Olympus trip. He just doesn't know the significance of it... yet.
10:34 One thing I don't see people mention is the MoM's reaction to what Aced said. He tenses up, as if the thought of him not being around for his pupils is something he genuinely doesn't like the idea of.
Just noticed that the Master of Masters seems to clasp his tighter when Aced starts to get emotional about the Master no longer teaching him and the other foretellers. Indicating that he actually does care for his students or is getting emotionally affected by having to leave and has just been trying to pretend that he's been fine. It's clear from how the foretellers act that the Master of Masters hasn't always acted like this, at least not to this agree. I find that interesting, especially how in the Japanese version Ira and Aced are called little childish nicknames by MoM that seem to indicate that MoM might have actually raised them.
I mean Chirithy said that the Master of Masters gave the Foretellers their new names, so he probably took them in from an early enough age that they grew up with one another. So he probably raised them all, although he doesn't seem to be that much older than them himself.
Now that reincarnation is a thing in kingdom hearts, I DEFINITELY think that kairi is a reincarnation of ava. Sora might be a reincarnation of the MoM as well
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This guy throws the whole " all masters are old ancient dudes that use big words" theme out the window
That, and masters are usually more serious than their pupils
@@linkskywalker5417 Goes to show when you're the most powerful person around, you can afford to not care about being serious. Formalities are for those who follow the rules, not for those who make them.
@@EmptyMan000 Is that why toddlers appear far more serious than their parents half the time? As well as why bosses are goofballs while their subordinates are so serious?
@@linkskywalker5417 Pretty much. When you're higher on the totem pole, you can be as goofy as you want. No one can tell you not to be.
@@EmptyMan000 I think that was sarcasm friend
“C’mon, are you telling me that you think the world can be saved by just seven people?”
Almost every RPG game ever made: Am I a joke to you?
Shulk: Hold my beer.
@@jamesdigennaro6705
Hey now, I said ALMOST.
@@eon1014 Persona 5, FFXV, KH1, KH2, Botw. Need I go on?
@@mdbsonic5772
Again, I said ALMOST.
...seven people. The seven guardians of light. That couldn't win on their own but needed help from a lot of others. Of course he friggin knew, OH THAT ASSHOLE.
I find it kinda hilarious that the Master of Masters said his keyblade had no name, so Luxu took that literally
@Biluga420 Spoilers, but
Yeah, Braig is Luxu. He kept reincarnating himself in new bodies to live on and carry the MoM's will, and Braig was his newest host.
@Biluga420 The Wiki says Braig is his vessel, so prolly that
@Biluga420 you can see his eye color change in bbs, his first apparition had normal eyes (Braig) but later near the end it was Luxu
@Biluga420 yeah, they're similar but the only scene we have of Braig is his encounter with Terra and he just acted like some random guy hired by Xehanort, one of those guys who only care about the money. We still don't know when Luxu approached Braig to possess him or what they talked about.
@Biluga420 maybe the possessed person retains half of his personality so Braig had 50% himself + 50% Luxu. Kinda symbolized by the eye patch + I'm already half Xehanort (which is irrelevant in this case but...he said half)
The voice acting of MoM is so good, like I'm in love with the playful expressive tone
but why is terras voice acting so bad 😭
The same guy voices Noctis in Final Fantasy, it's weird for me to associate Noctis' VA with the Master of Masters
@@lucyhardy-styles-shield2728 I feel bad people don’t like Noctis’ voice actor even though he did great as MoM, really tells you the potential he has and how he’s developed
@@revya4294 I loved Ray as Noctis, Noct is my fave FF character
@@lucyhardy-styles-shield2728also Bucciaratti in the dub of JoJo
His cadence reminds of the guy from Total Drama Island
"Ok guys, I heard from an anonymous source that one of your hearts have sunk into darkness. Not. Cool. Dudes."
Chris McLean, the insane host that we think all game show hosts are XD
I'm just hoping MoM is Demyx.
@@IsomerMashups people think it's Sora...SORA...
He seems to be a complex person
On one hand he seemed to orchestrate the end of the world, using his own apprentices to make it happen
On the other hand, he helped preserve and restart the world through Ava, the Dandelions, and the Keyblade being passed on into modern times
One can argue because he saw the future he knew the Keyblade War was inevitable, instead of preventing it, he worked with history to make sure life would survive
But he seemed to have his own plans
Still it seems he’s both a good and bad guy at this point
You win some you lose some
He is more likely neutral
sometimes the only choices you have are bad ones but you still have to choose
@@arbaazkhan934 That's a cop out for people who don't have the mind to imagine better choices to make. Choosing choices you know are bad is not a sign of making tough but right decisions, but a sign you messed up big and lack the skill to do better.
@@EmptyMan000 one often meets their destiny on the road they take to avoid it. Rather than trying to do something to prevent it and causing everything to end he found a way to let the destruction happen and still ensure people survive
Yo master of masters might be my favorite kingdom hearts character
Instantly became mine too after watching Back cover; used to be Roxas
It may be fun to finally fight him in the inevitable KH4... In about another 8-10 years.
Too bad he's in a mobile game
@@Nahobinoah They will probably make Union X and Dark road console games one day,Coded was also a mobile game and it got a remake Re:coded.
@@stampoulisrafail7836 I hope they do. because if the next arc requires it i'm gonna be mad. even 3 did have some union x lore but the major stuff was in back cover.
I love how incredibly casual and irreverent he is. He's such a unique maybe-villain for this franchise, Xigbar probably being the closest we've had to him so far (for multiple reasons, including the obvious spoiler reasons). I can't wait to hopefully see a lot more of him in the next phase of the story, if only to hear more of Ray Chase's phenomenal performance.
He's Adult Sora.
@@keithfilibeck2390 demyx
@@keithfilibeck2390 more likely adult Luxu
@@BirdRaiserE Honestly that makes a lot of sense, as Luxu kinda acts like MoM at this point.
@@Kaifen. well, it's mainly the fact that MoM said his keyblade has his eye in it, and Xigbar is missing an eye, and Luxu..... you know.
I anticipated the Master of Masters to be a wise and aged man but nah. That notion is threw out of the window.
Actually, he is quite wise (in a different way) if you observe his words and actions carefully. His otherwise manchild attitude is probably just the cover he maintain to hide his true personality.
@@axceljulio5747 or maybe it IS his true personality, eccentric doesn't mean unwise.
We all thought someone who is really old with a merlin/Yensid deal.
But nah, I think he's early 30's with a humored out look on like, favorite uncle deal.
He’s wise, but the way he acts isn’t. I love this character
@@axceljulio5747 Like tobi being obito and supposedly madara from naruto
"Here take it"
Lol straight up.
The MoM doesn't like to waste time. Or skip a leg day
Who says all masters had to be old, cryptic, well diction, and serious? I like this guy. I can have tea with him and just talk with him all day.
Yep. And at the end of you're talk he'll tell you you'll die in 3 minutes
Damn, MoM is playing Among Us before it was cool.
SPOILERS:
I just love the fact that MoM started the Keyblade war and got his foretellers killed, but there was actual purpose behind his plan. The trap the darkness entities into the foretellers so they become killable
How funny it would be if he was a woman
Oh, you think that’s “gross,” do ya?
That’s my favorite line from him.
My favorite is when he says to aced you get big promotion good job
@@obiwan8934 the one with Gula funny as heck Way to steal my thunder show off!
@@roleemack1535 oh yeah that one's good to
*whining voice* "he's terrible at this"
"Uh...that's not what it's called." Is mine, because he sounds so offended and it doesn't even have a name. Unless you count, "no name".
“I can’t have you causing any temporal paradoxes”
Yeah we’ll leave that to sora.
MoM IS Sora.
No SORA IS Mom
@Hooty HOOT HOOT Yozora and my oc Aozora: Yes
@@God-T Mom is demyx
@@plotarmour1471 no
He’s the Deadpool of Kingdom heart and man Ray Chase voice acting is beyond perfect
Why does he sounds like he wants to go on a road trip with his bros while Stand By Me plays in the background
LOLL (Ray Chase aka Noctis' VA)
I take this as a hint. Notice how the Master of Masters is comedic in front of everyone... except Ava, by being dead serious?
Probably has to do with (SPOILERS BELOW)
why she wasn't there at the end of KH3
I thought how it's probably the master of masters is Sora theory. I believe that Kairi is sort of like a reincarnation of Ava or something close to that, their personalities are similar and the color pink also is what resembles them both. I also think that Sora is the Master of Masters from the future and is trying to save Ava from the same fate of what happens to Kairi in the future. He went in time to the past just to change everything of all the future events to come. And well.. that's just my theory.
@@jazzwilton8199 I think namine might be ava’s roxas being part of kairi there has to be a reason namine looks different considering the sora and roxas situation with ven
@@jazzwilton8199 DONT GIVE NOMURA IDEAS!
@@UchihaFabio LMAO, why not? (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧
I love how as the story continues and the master starts show his true colors the music changes with him
Never ever underestimate the joker type characters. Including and especially those who look cute
@@linkskywalker5417 like tobi/obito
@@linkskywalker5417 he is MOST DEFINITELY not ANYTHING like the joker
@@myoldchannel0 No, I meant the archetype of a joker, including moe girls who are comic relief types. Because sometimes, there's more to comic relief characters than meets the eye.
@@linkskywalker5417 I feel you, my bad bruh, bruh! ✌🏿👍🏿
The way Aced goes “what?” after learning about his role is hilarious to me. XD 9:21
16:08. Saving this for me. Love this exchange.
"There's nothing in it. Nothing at all."
"But why?!"
"You'll see."
After the reveal about the real purpose behind the Book of Prophecies and why Luxu was specifically not given one, THIS would make perfect sense.
@@1aundulxaldin why was that again? I played UnionX some months ago so I forgot
Just imagine, the box is open and there is nothing inside.
Ultimate troll
I wouldn't be surprised if the box was empty because whatever isn't meant to go in it doesn't exist yet, or something has to be put into it later at a very specific point. Maybe it's a vessel to hold all the darknesses?
Master of masters is obviously Pride/Superbia. His name is quite arrogant. But i what love about him is he uses other peoples ego instead of his ego to do his bidding.
"May your heart be your guiding key" Ego right there.
Pride the deadliest Sins of all.
"May your heart be your guiding key".
I guess when you think about it, when you always rely on your sense of personal justice and assume that YOU are in the right, acting on your emotions alone and never logic or reasoning, and you refute the personal justice of others to enforce yours, that COULD be treated as Ego. It's brilliant in scope.
... And so the fandom moves a little closer in trying to figure out what this guy is really after.
@@1aundulxaldin probably selfish stuff
Ventus was confirmed pure light and the master was hinted at being light in remind. Darkness called the master its old friend (vanitas and ven) and they both form the x blade. Vanitas relates to pride (the masters sin) I think the master is ven and vanitas or pure light and darkness joined. They could have grown and ended up in a time loop.
@@wonderingobserver2231 interesting theory
His real plan is to escape video game dimension and into Real Life. His name? God
7:58 the master gives the best advice, honestly I try my best to remember this quote
Avas heart is in the box. Xemnas said box contained hope. Master said Ava is hope.
I actually like this idea way more than I should cause damn that seems sorta dark
Dude I literally thought this when I heard him saying that, and seconds after I see this comment. Way to steal my thunder, showoff!
It could explain why Ava has seemed so... off in the newer updates on HKUX. If she had no heart as of now, her strange actions and her presumable relations to darkness might have a new layer.
Luxu when he found out censored
I feel the Box is connected to Unreality. A fantasy McGuffin.
The look on Aced's face at 10:40 was just...XD Then the Master of Masters repeats himself, and gets freaked out by Aced's outburst LOL "Speak up if you're listening! That was embarrassing for me!" ROFL! Rather than being sulky about not being chosen for the leader role, I think that Aced is more distressed at the fact of the Master leaving them more than anything. The other LOLzy moment was with Gula at 13:27. MoM has quite the humorous side. Definitely a character that is worthy of an Academy Award performance.
I cannot get enough of the Master of Masters
that "ew he's terrible at this" still has me laughing my ass off to this day
And “You! Here’s a huge promotion! Good job! 👍🏻”
Remember when this all started when a kid from an island just wants to find his friends
"C'mon, are you telling me that you think the world can be saved by just seven people?" Nah id wager you need like 10
And a king rat
The box contains the Masters Heartless. When a Heartless and Nobody are slain, the original person they used to be is revived. He's using it as a way to revive himself in the present
Well RE Mind threw it out of the window as he actually appeared to Young Xehanort prior to his Mark of Mastery Exam and in between KH Dark Road
True, but there is something in this theory. Would explain why the MoM is still alive, after all, his plan as he said would take many lifetimes.
That is actually very very smart, if you are right I will come back here and say that you knew it all along :)
But how do you know if he's even alive he'd be at least hundreds if not thousands of years
Yeah because if he is strong like the organization 13 members, then he would look like himself as a nobody and won’t age. Then when his nobody and heartless (that’s in the box) are destroyed, he will be revived
All the apprentices looked up to their master, and it’s shocking knowing he raised them to be vessels without knowing.
Only Luxu knew what was really going down when the Master told him about his real plans. Of course at first Luxu could barely accept any of it as it was just insane to start with, but hundreds (thousands) of years later after many body jumping from one to the next all alone, he couldn’t care less as Xigbar.
"You think the world can be saved by just seven people?"
The dramatic irony in that statement.
I gotta say, if this guy is the new antagonist of the series, I am 100% down for it. I love villains like this.
Yes, he is!!! The Lost Masters Arc will be awesome!!!
The Master of Masters seems so burnt out by not being included in the Deadly Sins gang because the only one left is pride, and all the names are the first part of each sin's Latin translation, and pride in Latin is superbia.
If we're following the naming conventions, the Master of Master's real name is either Sup, Super or Superb.
I, for one, will refer to him as Sup until further information is provided.
HIs real name is prob. Light, there is a theory about this with his ReMind appearance
@@-B4sh- nah... vanitas just means empty or worthlessness. That’s why his keyblade is called void gear.
Xehanort made him from Ventus’ darkness to artificially make kingdom hearts to get the x-blade. Let vanitas stay dead I already got nightmares of his remnant destroying my lv1 crit terra.
@@nunezyan Did you forget vanitas?
@@cubethepixel3025 Ventus was confirmed pure light and the master was hinted at being light in remind. Darkness called the master its old friend (vanitas and ven) and they both form the x blade. Vanitas relates to pride (the masters sin) I think the master is ven and vanitas or pure light and darkness joined. They could have grown and ended up in a time loop.
Superbia Lux
Good to see Xigbar as a young lad
thats not xigbar
@@getnmoutthegod1697 What if it is! Plot twist!
CubeThePixel In the future he is because Luxu is using his body..... watch the epilogue again he says he uses different bodies
@@getnmoutthegod1697 ? Xigbar is Luxu, so Luxu here is in fact Xigbar cause Luxu is Xigbar. Saying seeing the original Braig here as a young lad would be wrong.
yourFBIagent bruh I know that’s what I said...
How didn't I see it before. 3:39 this man is Sora without a doubt. THAT STRETCH!!
He has so many of Sora's mannerisms it's so glaringly obvious idk how people argue about this
FOR SURE
@@garrettjensen1188 Sora isn't this playful, I think, nor has he shown any signs of being a manipulative schemer.
I also think MoM is a future Sora.
@@wagonfoundation7100 Sora is however currently a young fellow. The master of masters seems to be old or at least way into Adulthood. Sora has displayed plenty of playful behavior until shit hits the fan though. So the theory of him being the master of masters could hold some weight if he caused himself to be reborn.
Aced's "What?" at 9:23 always cracks me up.
Me too
Luxu "My heart says it wants a gun"
16:40 the master clapping is so funny to me idk why
He's got those 100km/s hands
i dont think MoM is a bad guy. very interesting detail at 10:34- 10:35 how he squeezes/grips his hands when Aced cries "does that mean you will no longer be teaching us?" the way MoM squeezes his hands is like it saddens him to hear that from Aced and what he has to say after because he knows how much his departure will hurt Aced so i dont think MoM is a bad guy
MoM is a Nomura self insert.
Change my mind.
Not exactly.. because his real name is God
People believe this man is demyx and I can't help but laughing imagining that reveal
@Hooty HOOT HOOT OH HI ROXAS
@@nicogalax Roxas: Why seeing you gives me déjà vu?
MoM/Demyx: Of course it would! You lived in my timeline
Call me crazy, but hear me out. With all that talk of "fading" and "disappearing", his ability to see into the future, how nonchalant he is, the creation of dream and nightmare spirits as well as being able to create keyblades for others, I have my own personal theory.
What if the Master of Masters is an avatar of Kingdom Hearts? In other words, Kingdom Hearts given flesh
I’ve also had this theory. It’s possible. He even low key compares himself to Kingdom hearts when he’s talking to ira
“People believe the light that is kingdom hearts will be here forever, but if it were to DISAPPEAR, the world would be enveloped in darkness”
@@Z-A-C There's also his words regarding the purpose of Keyblades. "Oh, it's not for protecting Kingdom Hearts."
As well as him giving his keyblade no name at all and his conversation with Young Xehanort in a cutscene in KH3. Why would YX be so shocked to hear his name unless it was a name that he wouldn't expect to hear from a *person* ?
Well, we do have a Character who is literally an embodiment of Darkness, who perhaps the virus ,so..,
@@Fragmentsinfractals488 it is said that the darkness is close with the master of masters too,,,,
With Melody Of Memories out he originates from that world beyond Fiction
"On that faded land a great war will transpire. Darkness will prevail and the light expire."
I mean it did for a few seconds till sora rewrote the passage with the power of awakening.
Just because Donald obliterated terra/xehanort with zettaflare
@@UchihaFabio *Most raw Donald moment in the entire franchise.* 👌
14:26 It amazing to see that his plan here is what happens in KH3 when all the former keyblades weilder that these two started saved you.
I like this guy, I dunno why I like him, but I like this Guy
"You're gonna Ira's right hand man."
"what"
3:30 that passage was the ending of kingdom hearts 3. So the book of prophecies ended there since light perished. They changed the future because of the dandelions. And so does that mean the book of prophecies changed since light prevails?
Unlikely. Xehanort was still wielding the no name so the Master of Masters would have seen the battle between Xehanort and Sora. And it’s obvious from the ending that Luxu got a lot of info the other didnt, probably a entirely different volume of the book.
@@thedeerking7220 Luxu didn't get a book whatsoever, the reason that he has more info than the others is simply because he knows what the Master's "Gazing Eye" actually is, while the others had no idea that he literally saw the future (hence why Ava and Ira kept thinking they could change it and why Gula thought he could actually find the traitor before they acted). Luxu knew Ava was the traitor the second she appeared to him above Daybreak Town, which is why he tells her about his role and the Master's intentions. Luxu might even know more than the Master, considering he was able to transfer his heart without a Keyblade, as he didn't have 1 for 100s-1000s of years after he passed it down, although the Master was able to keep his original form for that exact same amount of time without aging...
rsmouse31
That last statement of your comment... I’m pretty sure the master is just time traveling which is why he’s “not aging”
BulldogPlata
Sora made a new timeline by traveling back in time after the book’s progeny came true anyways so does it really matter?
"The truth is what you see with your eyes, not what you hear."
-Master of Masters, KH3 Remind
Now we have a couple options to think about here. Is everything written in the Book of Prophesies true or did the Master of Masters write some garbage within it to throw his students off? Based on his eccentric personality, I can believe that he's willing to put in the time to do the later. Sadly we will not get this information yet until future installments establish who the Master of Master is and what he gains from all of this.
He was trying to see if he could turn everyone against eachother, and after seeing the darkness in their hearts, he decided that the whole organization was a failure. None of them turned down his offer to find a traitor. They also were more worried about their roles🙄
I have a slightly different opinion. In most mythologies, knowing the future is usually what causes it to happen. He gave them their roles and worded them in a way that would inevitably cause them to clash. Like what he told Aced. He let him believe that he was meant to take over when Ira strayed or failed in his role. He wanted this to happen, he set the stage and watched the show unfold
@@TVHead003THIS!!! I believe Sora isn't MoM due to not going with his character. Sora doesn't do that and even if he did like timeless river, he has swore a secret(albeit via goofy shutting him up) and other times before hand. Sora is the type of Guy who will do the most for his friends at the cost of his mental health. MoM is someone who uses future events and carefully placed wording to see the desire outcome he wanted.
Hey is it true that the world will end?
"Yeah bummer isnt it?"
Lul
Noctis is that you!?!? I guess he left his throne to become Master of Masters
So noctis became yozora and now is a future version of sora who is a past version of the Mom who is the real antagonist of the game who has like 120 versions of himself or something which most of'em lived inside his heart and got revived yeah noctis you silly goose
Which mean yozora=noctis=Mom=sora=xion=roxas=ventus=vanitas (lmao)
@@Thetheoryiswrong LoL. That is the kind of convoluted story crafting I would expect from Nomura!
Honestly I half expect that MoM is an alternate timeline Noctis, which Yozora also definitely is, as well as Yozora likely being an alternate Sora, and then these three just end up all being some variation of Sora. Because I know Nomura seems to love fucking with us.
Mom is that you
Me, sees this comment and all it’s replies: Oh yeah, it’s all coming together
Why does the MoM reminds me so much of Sora. I can totally imagine him being a grown up Sora with his still funny but somewhat dark personality due to everything he went through or is going to go through (in future kh games) as he grows up. Also talking about disappearing and what not. Which Sora did experience at one point. I'm not super informed with the whole kh plot so don't come at me with your kh facts. I'm just having fun here theorising. This makes sense to my limited knowledge.
Honestly I can't see him NOT being Sora at this point. Everything about him screams Sora and with how much Sora went through even before KH3, after KH3 he is bound to be affected by things and him becoming a bit... eccentric seems like a less alarming development for his character.
I have a feeling that whatever that box is, it’s BOUND to be opened inevitably. If not the foretellers themselves, then by any manner of good or bad guy. Pete and Maleficent WERE hunting it themselves. And going into wordplay here, the MoM explicitly states that “you”, or rather, “Luxu” was to never open the box. I’d take it as standing orders to ensure NONE are to open it as well, but with all things in this series, take that with a pinch of salt.
I Think its his heart
16:07 *rapidly randomly slams piano*
😂
Doesn’t even fit the scene...lol
@@mdbsonic5772 doesn’t fit it at all
I was expecting some slow piano music to fit the mood, but NOPE!
@@tahutheprotector6988 Well..having been able to see where the games have ended up, and hearing Master of Masters' theme from the OST, consider this (also spoilers, just in case!):
MoM's theme is an insane melody; rapidly playing piano with arguably some terrifying strings playing, a collection of chaos if you will, almost as if the theme represents a character of a chaotic sort. It might just be me, but doesn't MoM seem like a character who is fairly insane? Like a man who knows too much, has seen so much, that such knowledge has driven him a bit crazy? A mind of discord given a theme of chaotic synergy, in a way it does make sense.
And then, his theme plays only once in this 'movie': when he's with Luxu (who we know is Xigbar now), who acts almost the same as MoM does? Luxu also seems like someone who's sort of lost his mind as he fulfilled his role over the many MANY years; comparing how he acts here to how he's been acting onward, his personality has changed radically. From fairly straightforward and serious to much more carefree and flamboyant. He now has a personality similar to MoM now, almost as if MoM's theme has a connection between him and Luxu.
This could all be a just a massive stretch, but maybe it'll make sense in some way!
@@mdbsonic5772 fits the character its named after though lol
Watching this after Union X's grand finale, an old quote from Adventure Time comes to mind...
"Y'alls got played!"
As the great Guzma from Pokemon Sun&Moon once said:
"Y'all stupid!"
My favorite part is 4:18 4:26
I love the way he just leaves it always makes me laugh 😂
I have to say, the Master of Masters saying to not to focus on preventing the war, but focusing onwhat comes next is rather refreshing in JRPG terms.
Pretty much ALL JPRGs is about preventing the prophecy of the end of the world, but he just saying "Ah, that! Don't worry about it, let's it happen and focus onf the aftermath."
It's an interesting contrast to the classic Greek tragedy of trying to prevent your fate. If you try, you'll either fail or even CAUSE it.
So instead, he's focusing on the aftermath. *How things can get fixed after the prophecised fate.*
This guy is basically the Bill Cipher of Kingdom Hearts.
Except he actually has justifiable motives for what he does, and isn't just out to cause chaos for its own sake.
That ending hit different after KHUX wrapping up...
This Master of Masters is a complete mystery. He seems to have a good heart, but has some dark ulterior motives behind everything. He acts like a goofball, but speaks in wisdom and humor. I wonder what he’s after?
I was not expecting this top notch tier of a voice actor from kingdom fucking hearts
Well kh always has A+ Voice work in JP or orignal version it's just the eng version not being taken seriously.
@@sarthakarora3212 yeah and thats sad. I wish they gave us the option to choose the language
@ I wish we just got the jp version with accurate subtitles. It's feels like we get worse version every game but we shouldn't let this get us down since we can look up the differences in this internet era and not let this ruin our prespective of the story.
I find it interesting that with Ira, Luxu, Aced, Invi and Gula, he is making jokes and mischievous qualities, but with Ava is very serious.
And casually Ava resembles too much to a young Kairi.
For everyone who doesn't know Xigbar is actually Luxu because Luxord and the 4 masters called Xigbar, Luxu.
Looking back at these cutscenes, it’s really jarring and speaks levels that the MoM is all jokester with everyone but Ava.
@4:08
"You really think the world can be saved by just seven people?"
Shulk from Xenoblade: Yes.
If this guy ends up being Demyx, I am going to be genuinely upset. Not only does he joke around in a different way than Demyx AND actually is more intelligent than he lets on (unlike Demyx), but I also just want a new character to be the mastermind. Nomura seems to like the notion of keeping a lot of the old Org. Members. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, I actually enjoy what he's doing with them so far, but I just want a new big bad for a new saga. Not some familiar face that was "secretly planning something the whole time *wink, wink*". Anybody else feel me?
Good news, it seems very likely that MoM and Demyx are two different people. They released a bunch of short stories for each character and Demyx’ story actually talks about MoM in his like he’s met him before, but they’re both defined as separate people. Unless they do time travel or something to make MoM a separate version of Demyx, I don’t think they’re the same guy.
Also crossing my fingers MoM is someone new under the hood.
What if demyx is the master of master's nobody? Just think we all know that Roxes is sora's nobody and xemnas is xehanort's nobody and namine is kairi's nobody
Ventus was confirmed pure light and the master was hinted at being light in remind. Darkness called the master its old friend (vanitas and ven) and they both form the x blade. Vanitas relates to pride (the masters sin) I think the master is ven and vanitas or pure light and darkness joined. They could have grown and ended up in a time loop.
While I don't think the Master is Sora either, I wouldn't be surprised if he looks like Sora's concept art.
@Hooty HOOT HOOT I think he fits luxord more brain seemed wise like him not as goofy as demyx and he is kind of a gambler of fate
I only ever saw this once, but It's amazing to see that the Scala ad Cailum theme was well in use before KH3 came out.
For those of you saying that the Master is future Sora or future Luxu, I think I’ve thought of something…….
What if both are right? What happened with Xehanort and Terra, what if the same thing happened, like Luxu leaving Xigbars body and trying to hijack Soras. And that body is the Master of Masters?!?! Honestly this theory terrifies me but it was the best one I could come up with.
That is a interesting theory. And from what we already know with Terras body, his voice changed when xehanort took control. If being both right, that is both interesting, but scary.
After knowing Ray chase voiced MoM, I'm always hearing Noct
The true master of master’s was noctics all along
I love how aced has the same voice actor as knuckles from sonic boom lol
The way he gave him that passage letter was like cheat code
Notice how out of all his apprentices, he is completely serious with Ava. All the others, he maintains a sense of humour and mystery. But with Ava, he keeps a consistent tone throughtout their meeting.
Ava had the most important role. All the others had roles that didn't mean much except for causing friction and distrust. Ava had to create the dandelions who would leave the world when the Keyblade War begin, to ensure the light wouldn't expire. Her failing means the world ended so he needed to be strait forward and direct in order for her to remained focuses and grasp how serious it was.
@@Sephiroth766 I think the others were meant to serve as distractions to the darkness, so he needed Ava to keep a low profile and avoid drawing attention to herself. She needed to know that he was serious and that her role was the most important to securing a better future,
The counting part is hilarious
Master of masters>>anyone else
Aaaand now he's going to be the new...bad guy? Maybe?
Only if he needs to be. His plan shall save us all, whether you understand it or not.
Probably a greater-scope villain first, with Luxu and the four Foretellers being the primary big bads for the next set of games in this saga. Then, he takes up the center stage as the ultimate big bad in the last installment of the saga.
But like like he does care about the world thought on what comes after so yeah wait😨 I just had a crazy thought if you guys didn't know theirs a glitch with the picture and young xehanort when he uses his armor he had the same eye as master of masters what if it isn't a glitch and he time traveled to the past and became the master of masters mind blown😱
he's Time Traveling adult Sora.
Listening to Master of Masters voice and mannerisms always reminds me of a less sociopathic Handsome Jack.
Lol just realized it's the same voice actor as Rhys from Tales from the Borderlands.
12:21 HIS FACE!!!!!
He’s not human. His name is God
Wait never mind that’s not his face that’s just the page on the wall :/
@@Z-A-C yep
i hope the master of masters is someone we dont know yet.
because we know luxu, yet his voice is totally different. luxu and xigbar/braig dont sound similar in any way
i think the MoM has an amazing voice and i would hate for them to change it later on because its a char we know alrdy.
and then ofc... how did sora come across to say the line "may your heart be your guiding key" that is weird
Good question i want to know too
Sora came across it because Master Yen Sid said the line when he got his new attire after the Olympus trip. He just doesn't know the significance of it... yet.
@@axceljulio5747 I think he knows the meaning of it at the secret ending of KH II, where they were heading to colosseum right?
@@abdoplays9317 Yeah. And just right after the prologue of KH3
@@axceljulio5747 Alright Thank you for your reply :)
Ray Chase Killed it in this role
10:34 One thing I don't see people mention is the MoM's reaction to what Aced said. He tenses up, as if the thought of him not being around for his pupils is something he genuinely doesn't like the idea of.
I just realized that MoM has the same personality and talks like Chris Mclean
HOLY CRAP its Ray Chase doing the english voice
Just noticed that the Master of Masters seems to clasp his tighter when Aced starts to get emotional about the Master no longer teaching him and the other foretellers. Indicating that he actually does care for his students or is getting emotionally affected by having to leave and has just been trying to pretend that he's been fine. It's clear from how the foretellers act that the Master of Masters hasn't always acted like this, at least not to this agree. I find that interesting, especially how in the Japanese version Ira and Aced are called little childish nicknames by MoM that seem to indicate that MoM might have actually raised them.
I mean Chirithy said that the Master of Masters gave the Foretellers their new names, so he probably took them in from an early enough age that they grew up with one another. So he probably raised them all, although he doesn't seem to be that much older than them himself.
He may be an evil bastard (who knows at this point)- but I like the man's voice. His goofiness reminds me of Tobi from Naruto Shippuden.
Ray Chase is awesome as the Master of Masters! He also voiced Noctis Lucis Caelum in 'Final Fantasy XV' and NieR (Brother) in 'NieR Replicant 1.22'.
@@MikeAruba69 Nice
I am so in love with him
« May your heart be your guiding key »…
8:38 The Master of Masters &KNUCKLES
12:02 who the F is he talking to?
Himself
MOM is a skilled manipulator
It’s pretty easy for him when he’s God
Its my eye
Me: cool
Luxu: ew!!!
Now that reincarnation is a thing in kingdom hearts, I DEFINITELY think that kairi is a reincarnation of ava. Sora might be a reincarnation of the MoM as well
Sora might more likely be the player character.
7:49 you can see his chin and mouth
man is really fawning over the book he wrote as if he was just now seeing it at 12:09
He’s posing just like Sora does at 3:47
This dude is *clearly* Nomura
I noticed the Master never mentioned Gula by his name, is there any reason for this?
also there's no "Case of Gula" at the start of their scene
Let there be a person inside of that black box and I'm leaving!
I wonder... the Master said he wasn’t sure yet if he’ll disappear, I wonder if that anything to do with Sora disappearing at the end of KH3...?