This feels eerily similar to how Kojima used resources intended for MGSV development to stealthily produce PT and deploy it using his station without getting internal executive approval (likely because he felt he had to to prove there's an interest)
Kingdom Hearts 3 ReMind DLC let me “remind” everyone about Versus XIII and how I hated the fact it got scrapped must be what Nomura feels but I’m only speculating I really do wish they make a FFXV-2 and have it be an alternate universe and have it be Versus XIII but I doubt that’ll happen.
Why do the fans make up this narrative of Nomura being an old bitter man? If he was this wouldn't have been approved? It's just a passion project seemingly that both he and many of us want.
Back when Nomura was still working on Versus XIII, he stated that any ideas he can't fit into Versus XIII would be reserved for Kingdom Hearts. Granted, in context he was most likely referring to gameplay ideas, but there's nothing to say that story ideas wouldn't also get carried over (especially if XV's story was drastically different from Versus XIII's).
@@thedothackerkeyblademaster Whatever Versus' story was, it's not clear. The game's plot kept getting rebooted multiple times through development. Towards the end of the 7 years of development, Versus' earlier trailers weren't part of the plotline anymore.
@@arrivederciliebe32 Maybe he did had a vision but was limited due being force to work on too many projects. At last it was his and the company's fault that the original ffv13 even tho lack so much narrative and drivng plot, but just by watching that iconic trailer alone had more potential then the entire 15 version. 15 will always be the most disappointing FF game i bought to date, follow by 13 part 2.
@@XenoJaed I'd use plurar. Now that Yozora is integrated into KH, it has changed beyond a point of being the old KH. The next games are going to feature him right to the ending of KH itself. It's like we're stepped in not only a whole different arc, but an entirely distant part of the franchise.
I mean if we’re honest, pretty much all the secret bosses and ending from the numbered games were like that. The hooded figures in the realistic city from 1 & the armoured knights in the desert from 2 left the same feeling at the time. The Verses XIII stuff is new though.
I think you mean the world ends with you. But yeah i call TWTNW, TWEWY. And now that we see TWEWY, we calling it TWTNW. Lets interchange them both. Its all the same lmao
@@GcorpCoPrez the world that never was is the city from kingdom hearts 2. The world ends with you is where shebuya came from. Its the city that sora and yozora fight in. But i think its funny that a world that never was. Is technically versus xiii. A game that never was lmao. The world ends with square enix LMAO cause them niggas aint tellin us NUFFIN
Corey Corey It did, but Nomura got kicked out of the director position. He was making Versus/XV when KH3 started development. Hell I’d wager that KH and Versus were meant to be connected, but when he got kicked off the team I guess he changed noctis’ name and altered a bit of his design. Also m, Noctis translates to “Of The Night”, and Yozora translates to “Night Sky”.
Yozora's appearance: Maybe it's a reference or easter egg? Similar cinematic: Okay, they're pretty similar, perhaps it's just a wink to the fans though? Exact same car interior: Aight something fishy is goin on here!
fans wanted the original FF15 concept which is FF13 Versus, which they completely changed in the final game. Kh series and FF13 versus had almost the same HUD and gameplay pacing. so maybe they somehow want to re-continue the original project on KH3
"Nomura-san, we are over budget for Kingdom Hearts 4." "Nomura-san, there are thousands of unused assets for that vsXIII game you were making." "Nomura-san, the KH3 full motion video creation team is here, and we're only up to the Toybox level." Nomura: This time, we go together.
Driver: "Commander! Commander! It's impressive, is it not?" Yozora: "I've been having these weird thoughts lately..." Driver: "But what about what I was talking about..."
Being the chauffeur and probably retainer of Yozora, it does seem to explain his power of time. Keeping things in order, making sure Yozora goes where he needs and arrives in an orderly fashion. Prolly played cards with buddies too or even Yozora
@@fisthound0027 A survivor of the war who moved to the other side? How the war ended is never explained... the unions couldn't have killed each other like that
I wonder if his driver is kinda like Alfred, I know Noc... er, Yozora has a dad, but he could have been there since he was a child, maybe the reason he knows card tricks is he used to entertain Yozora as a kid. XD
Noctis/MoM: I found you, Faker! Yozora: Faker, I think you’re the fake one around here. You think you can compare yourself to me? You’re not good enough to be my fake Noctis: I’ll make you eat those words!
SignedCentaur Right, he also stalking Riku in previous secret ending, maybe tracking wrong guy because they also look similar (Riku said it was a dream o.o)
Yozora mentioned he doesnt normally look like what he is now and Yozora isnt his true name, at least that is what I am getting at. He might have some meta sense of awareness because he is aware that he should look like Noctus and have his name.
That's what MoM is after! He's Noct! He wants his story told and he's going to use Kingdom Hearts to reset the World just like Xehanort was trying to do.
Wow, look how perfectly these line up. The angle, the shots, the exact length and the dialoge is exactly the same. This just blatenly proves that Nomura is so bound to this character and concept that he will do anything so make it work, using KH as a launching platform
I love my 60 dollars going to a completely separate and unconnected series, instead of the thing I actually paid for. And the best part's when he ruined the thing I paid for, just so he could then take my money, and fund the thing I specifically did not pay for. Thanks, Nomura!
The person that claimed that(probably the one above this comment) is ignorant and does not know anything of anything. As well Nomura did not mess up anything. It was all square Enix's fault
@Fandom Breaker Of course it is, I buy KH games to support the KH series, not to support Nomura's revival of a project he fucked up in the first place.
Square enix: and so 15 prevails and versus expires, You need to focus in the other game Nomura: my move isn't ? S.E.: huh? Nomura: (show's Disney Kingdom hearts) it's not over! S.E.: come on it's not fair, I know I had you! Nomura: yes ! You nearly did!, But a games no fun, If you know where it's going.
So is nobody going to bring up the driver looks and sounds exactly like Luxord? Dunno if there's a Japanese version of KH3 remind up yet but that is a huge giveaway. He even has ear piercing and the hair color looks just like his. I wouldn't be surprised if Demyx is an alternate reality version of Prompto.
OMG, I'm freaking out. The guy driving referred to Noctis as Nocitis Ouji (Prince Noctis) and the guys who literally uploaded this is literally named Ouji. It's all connected. Kingdom Hearts. Reconnect.
@@ZrCorelx the idea of sora going to the final fantasy universe is such a good one. I love disney, i really do, but change can be good for the franchise
@Mary's Mother oh please, the story stopped making sense around the Dream Drop. At this point, you just gotta sit tight and enjoy the ride that is Nomuras imagination
@@aricente I can't hear you over him literally focusing more on making his FF15 fanfiction than finishing this series properly. No, it is not good for the series that the creator doesn't care for it, and is instead using it to make a project he was kicked off of because he was too incompetent to make it.
That moment you also realize in the bad ending that Sora turns into crystal and Yozora says 'I'll save you', like this was Sora's focus ala FFXIII and Versus within Fabula Nova Chrysalis. Now we're all having weird thoughts lately!!!! 😱
Yeah, Sora turning to crystal was a major XIII lore-flashback for me. And seeing as the l'cie concept was originally in the VS XIII universe, I just cackled at Nomura's blatant use of scrapped material.
VegaPreferred probably because square won’t let him I bet. They want to keep thinking 15 was perfect. JUST LET NOMURA TELL THE STORY OF VERSUS 13 HOW IT WAS MEANT TO BE.
In the Versus XIII trailer, the driver says "あれ 迫力ですね" (0:14) while in the Japanese version of the Kingdom Hearts scene the driver says "あれ すごいですね". Due to the same sentence structure and the fact that both 迫力 and すごい can mean "impressive", the Versus XIII line could just as accurately be translated as "Impressive, is it not?".
I freaking love Nomura , he was like thanks for taking my project and turning it into something it was not meant to be . Now I am more excited to play the game that Noruma originally created
@@yeelengmoua8035 you know there's a prize for the one who guesses right the next KH game name, they said it's 2 words and 8 letters, and versus 13 fits perfectly...
Brian Silva actually made into what. A selfie road trip lol nah. Nomura would have eventually finished the game. And it would have been great. At least in versus there was gonna be more action in the fighting than just holding X the whole time to attack and using fuckin unlimited potions. First play through I only died once. The fuckin duscae demo had a better battle system than the base game. And more random enemies at night.
My theory: Is Yozora a direct nod to Noctis? Yes. Is Yozora in fact Noctis? Hmmm. Outside the game we know so but inside KH it’s yet to be told. While Yozora can be a big player in the story to come I sorta saw this as symbolism. FFXIII Versus went on without Nomura and became XV. Final Fantasy XV is the heartless of Versus so the nobody would be...... Verum Rex. Nomura took his own situation and made it writing material. Hence “ A fantasy based on reality” 🤯
It's not weird or petty Nomura wants to revive versus XIII. He spent almost 10 years working on it, just imagine working 10 years on something just for it to be erased, 10 years, where were you 10 years ago? and he seemed extremely passionate about the project in interviews too. Its not weird at all, and Nomura knows there are vs XIII fans, he's said to read fans opinions online for feedback
Imagine making characters that are very special and dear to you, and then someone else takes them and re-writes everything with only the goal of having a finished project on the shelves, erasing your intended feelings and love interests and all kinds of stuff. That has to just sting. I wish XV just made a new protagonist it feels weird just having the look and name of a character from something completely different there.
The issue is Nomura works on a lot of convoluted stuff, so it's possible Square got tired or thought it wouldn't be profitable. Look at FF VII, the whole series is so convoluted (I'm a fan of everything FF VII btw) and let's not even start with the lot of games from Kingdom Hearts. I do hope he gets something from Versus 13 out. It looked dope.
This is great i loved it! I was wondering what this scene was then on my recommended, i saw the final fantasy verses and it was exactly like yozora's ending scene,
KH fans: "No! You can just make Final Fantasy cannon it will mess up timelines and be really confusing on what is real!" Nomura: " haha, video game go vrrr"
Had to come back after the most recent leak. For ppl who might not know, the prototype version of the Verum Rex cinematic at the beginning of Toy Box world leaked and we can see how Yozora uses Noctis Engine Blade while fighting alongside Prompto and Gladiolus. We already knew Verum Rex is FF Versus XIII and Yozora is Noctis, but the fact they actually used the models for the concepts of the cinematic is crazy to me
If i have to choose between having versus 13 or ff7 remake first I’ll chose versus 13! It was one of the most ambitious projet square Enix ever did. Too bad they forced nomura to drop the game so he can focus on kingdom heart 3
Versus development was a mess, and both SE *AND* Nomura are to blame for it. SE kept pulling people to another projects, while Nomura got too ambitious with his ideas and kept changing stuff all the time instead of actually finishing them, and planning entire series out of it already. The game was only 25% complete when Tabata stepped in, and had to redo and drop lot of work to make it finished in time to the set deadline.
@HaremGodRance ffxv HAD to be out by the end of 2016, even as half-assed. so they had to try to patch it up afterwards through dlc. while i dont like that either or their decision to cut out story stuff, it was their choice in order to get the game out before deadline.
@@FeraNelia don't be naive! they cut out story content in order to sale it as DLC money is the only thing they had in mind! SE went full EA with the development of FF15
Did anyone also notice the OST for Dearly Beloved start to transition to a FFXV song O_O!!!!!? It happens when Sora says, "None of this.. Makes sense to me"
Kind of scared that theyre mixing bits of versus 13 with KH. I feel like it wouldnt live up to its true potential and the grim/dark aspects would definitely be toned down. Another reason being that the KH story is sooo complex and crazy at this point that idk if all this should be mixed in. Plus yozora's design just makes me think attempt #3 at all this, with noctis and riku all looking the same except yozora has weapons that i'm not particularly fond of, especially that weird crossbow thing. I really wanted versus 13 to be a thing but its been a really bumpy road, and they butchered my boy Noctis in XV that definitely didnt live up to expectations. But maybe somehow they'll make it all work and it will be awesome which i hope so badly.
This feels eerily similar to how Kojima used resources intended for MGSV development to stealthily produce PT and deploy it using his station without getting internal executive approval (likely because he felt he had to to prove there's an interest) Feels like Nomura is sneakily pushing Versus XIII
I have been waiting since the very first trailer of Versus XIII..and while some games just don't come out, this is the one game, the one final fantasy i truly wanted.
Watch him actually make Verum Rex a real game on it's own to feel like FF Versus XIII wasn't a wasted concept. Then in a secret scenario of that game, it reveals how that world got connected to KH. So in other words, we've been seeing a crossover by a game that's secretly in development.
Wow, I knew these scenes were very similar. And in the original non DLC secret ending the theme that plays is basically just a couple of notes away from Somnus. But I didn't realize that these clips were THAT similar. They didn't even majorly change the design of the vehicles, timing, or camera angles!
@@ronceval different games hence the title different, under different directors, and different stories, they just took the names and majority of character ideas from Nomura, and got lazy with a lot of the game
@@UnrealDreamer Can you guys quit with this stupid shit? Got lazy? Nomura didn't even have a game outside a cgi tech demo. Tabata literally had to crunch in order to make a game to meet the deadline.
@@Darksasune13 yeah cause the engine they were using for versus was shit and made for linear stories like 13, not open world like they were for versus but of course you should know that already
cause was the same team of FFversus13, it is an cameo . i feel a lot of love from the work of the creators that surely fought to make this camera layout
Remember the next game Eraqus was going to show Xehanort? This time, it would be a game of 7 darknesses and 13 lights. Yozora translates to "Night Sky" as opposed to Sora's regular "sky." Theory: Yozora is one of the 7 darknesses and will be the protagonist of the next story, or at least one of the protagonists. His story will set up his battle *versus XIII lights*
Not to add more confusion by mentioning another final fantasy (like 15 and v13), in the shadowbringers expansion of FFXIV, you basically have to restore balance between light and darkness. Maybe in this next KH game, light becomes too powerful so you have to then try and balance it out with darkness with Yozora?
@@QuixoticUkulele hahahahahaahahahaha I cant wait to play Versus XIII, a Final Fantasy XV but with terrible dialogue and stupid story. I cant wait for Versus
Square Enix: Sorry Tetsuya...we can't make Final Fantasy versus XIII...but hey! You can make another Kingdom hearts game! Nomura: I Know... I will make Kingdom hearts versus XIII... Square Enix: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
So you're telling me that all these 18+ years of Kingdom Hearts series was a pre-sequel to Final Fantasy Versus XIII??? Omg, my mind is blown! This is why I freaken love Square Enix, I don't know if I can keep up with this time wait for each game to come out xD
@@audriari Many are theorizing it's Luxord or his human counterpart. The evidence heavily supports this. His English and Japanese voice match with the driver. Everything from the driver's hairline, the back of his hair, the shape of his head, his silhouette, his voice, and a lot of context all support this. The dlc hints early on about WHO is Luxord. After being defeated by Sora in the Keyblade Graveyard, Sora says "Let's meet again when we're both people." It's a ton of supporting evidence. Oh and Tetsuya Nomura said Luxord was his favorite character. Consider Nomura really wanted to make Final Fantasy Versus XIII and now we see Luxord included, the evidence is enormous.
PolyRon with that context then now I’m sure I was just being obsessive over Noctis’ voice haha That’s so cool tho! I haven’t been able to try and check the dlc out but now that you said that it makes sense. Thank you for replying!
![[HD] Final Fantasy Versus XIII Complete Official Trailer - Stella & Noctis (ENG SUB)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/IMhg65dUTbw/mqdefault.jpg)
![Yozora's Story in KINGDOM HEARTS III & Re𝄌Mind [All Cutscenes][Secret Ending/Episode][4K UHD]](/img/n.gif)
Corporate: "Nomura, you can't make FF13 Versus. Just focus on Kingdom Hearts."
Nomura: "How about I do...anyway"
Hes also doing ff7r xD
Nice Bill Wurtz reference.
This feels eerily similar to how Kojima used resources intended for MGSV development to stealthily produce PT and deploy it using his station without getting internal executive approval (likely because he felt he had to to prove there's an interest)
Kingdom Hearts 3 ReMind DLC let me “remind” everyone about Versus XIII and how I hated the fact it got scrapped must be what Nomura feels but I’m only speculating I really do wish they make a FFXV-2 and have it be an alternate universe and have it be Versus XIII but I doubt that’ll happen.
@@adammaginnis719 would be cooler to call it final fantasy versus xv
nomura: hey can i copy your homework
nomura: yeah just make sure to change it up a bit
Why did you say Nomura twice?
@@sinlessgalaxy3132 because nomura made both games
Slithy1010 Well, one game. The other got cancelled.
save money....
@@sinlessgalaxy3132 Other homework was lost, he had to remake it only to find his original homework stuck lost in between pages in his history book
Nomura was so mad for being taken off of the Versus XIII project that he made it anyway in KH3. Xemnas was right: anger and hate ARE supreme.
Underrated comment right here
Why do the fans make up this narrative of Nomura being an old bitter man?
If he was this wouldn't have been approved? It's just a passion project seemingly that both he and many of us want.
Back when Nomura was still working on Versus XIII, he stated that any ideas he can't fit into Versus XIII would be reserved for Kingdom Hearts. Granted, in context he was most likely referring to gameplay ideas, but there's nothing to say that story ideas wouldn't also get carried over (especially if XV's story was drastically different from Versus XIII's).
@@thedothackerkeyblademaster Whatever Versus' story was, it's not clear. The game's plot kept getting rebooted multiple times through development. Towards the end of the 7 years of development, Versus' earlier trailers weren't part of the plotline anymore.
@@arrivederciliebe32 Maybe he did had a vision but was limited due being force to work on too many projects. At last it was his and the company's fault that the original ffv13 even tho lack so much narrative and drivng plot, but just by watching that iconic trailer alone had more potential then the entire 15 version. 15 will always be the most disappointing FF game i bought to date, follow by 13 part 2.
Plot twist: There is no Kingdom Hearts 3, there's no Kingdom Hearts at all. All of this was just a prequel to Final Fantasy V 13.
I. Will. TAKE IT!!!!!
Big fucking yikes.
Is that supposed to be a good thing?
Kingdom Hearts was a dream all along.
Plot twist: Reality has always been Final Fantasy Versus XIII
seriously, this yozora scene made it feel like kh is a whole different game
The next KH game will probably be a slightly different game before Kingdom Hearts 4.
@@XenoJaed I'd use plurar. Now that Yozora is integrated into KH, it has changed beyond a point of being the old KH. The next games are going to feature him right to the ending of KH itself.
It's like we're stepped in not only a whole different arc, but an entirely distant part of the franchise.
It’s the beginning of a new saga
@@saxenart You couldn't be more right. Now that Xehanort is gone, the most plausible case is a new saga related to Yozora and Verum Rex.
I mean if we’re honest, pretty much all the secret bosses and ending from the numbered games were like that.
The hooded figures in the realistic city from 1 & the armoured knights in the desert from 2 left the same feeling at the time.
The Verses XIII stuff is new though.
That face when you realize versus xiii is ACTUALLY the world..that NEVER was
I think you mean the world ends with you. But yeah i call TWTNW, TWEWY.
And now that we see TWEWY, we calling it TWTNW. Lets interchange them both. Its all the same lmao
@@GcorpCoPrez the world that never was is the city from kingdom hearts 2. The world ends with you is where shebuya came from. Its the city that sora and yozora fight in. But i think its funny that a world that never was. Is technically versus xiii. A game that never was lmao. The world ends with square enix LMAO cause them niggas aint tellin us NUFFIN
@Arthur Daniel right?? Hahaha
@Arthur Daniel wait thats actually genius lmfaooo
Alex Major ........oh my god.......OMG holy shit my fuckin is BLOWN!!!!!
"Can't cancel my ideas if I just put all my ideas in the next game I'm allowed to make" -Tetsuya Nomura
Nomura: "FINE, I'LL MAKE MY OWN FF! WITH PLAID! AND ZIPPERS!"
You know what, FORGET ABOUT FF!
Omg this shit is hilarious had me laughing for 2 mins. Straight good job gg
I hope people realize how clever this joke is...
LoL never thought I would read a reference to that in a comment section, well played xD
AND SPIKY HAIRS!!!!
"God as my witness, Versus-13 will be made. Come Hell, high water, or as DLC for a different game entirely." - Tetsuya Nomura, 2020
amen
Did he really say that???
Some in the comments above said there never was a kingdom hearts it's all just been a sequel to verses
I thought Versus XIII just became Final Fantasy XV? At least that's what Square-Enix said.
Corey Corey It did, but Nomura got kicked out of the director position. He was making Versus/XV when KH3 started development. Hell I’d wager that KH and Versus were meant to be connected, but when he got kicked off the team I guess he changed noctis’ name and altered a bit of his design. Also m, Noctis translates to “Of The Night”, and Yozora translates to “Night Sky”.
Yozora's appearance: Maybe it's a reference or easter egg?
Similar cinematic: Okay, they're pretty similar, perhaps it's just a wink to the fans though?
Exact same car interior: Aight something fishy is goin on here!
fans wanted the original FF15 concept which is FF13 Versus, which they completely changed in the final game. Kh series and FF13 versus had almost the same HUD and gameplay pacing.
so maybe they somehow want to re-continue the original project on KH3
@@andrealcenenrico3751 Or tease it in KH
"Nomura-san, we are over budget for Kingdom Hearts 4."
"Nomura-san, there are thousands of unused assets for that vsXIII game you were making."
"Nomura-san, the KH3 full motion video creation team is here, and we're only up to the Toybox level."
Nomura: This time, we go together.
Something's wrong I can feel it
@@andrealcenenrico3751 i need the two games separated. ffvs 13 needs to happen.
Nomura will make versus xiii even if it kills him...
RIG I BEG OF HIM NOMURA PLEASE I BELIEVE IN YOU
Or until SE kicks him out for his BS, he's wasted millions already procrastinating with VS.
this time with another name
Given time and patience, a man can accomplish anything.
i hope not for another 10 years
Driver: "Commander! Commander! It's impressive, is it not?"
Yozora: "I've been having these weird thoughts lately..."
Driver: "But what about what I was talking about..."
I think the driver is Luxord
Yozora: Shut up Dolur.......Dollar....I just blew my mind. YOU THINK??? 😧
I heard it too I agree with you!
Both games suck...
@@pumpumswalls2293 shut up
Sora = Sky
Yozora = Night Sky
Noctis = Of The Night
Not a coincidence
No shit Sherlock.
We’ve discussed this over ten years ago dude and we are oooovveeerrr kingdom hearts. Just make a new goddamn game
@@bichitomax You're an ass
I actually didn't piece that together.
Noctis's last name is Caelum, which means Sky
Not a coincidence, just a dumb, contrived connection
You also technically fight 13 people to unlock this last fight. Vs. 13. The numbers! Mason, what do the numbers mean?? 🤣
Mason mean elimante
@@sadigyara El.??.imanate?
Oh God😂😂😂 it's bad I know the reference
Damn it Nomura it was your plan all along to make FFXIII Versus even if it meant dragging the mess of a story called Kingdom Hearts
Means Nomura will get his FF versus 13. And we'll have to wait till 2050 for it. 🤣
Square: "So, you've finally given up on this whole 'Versus XIII' thing?"
Nomura: "Well, yes, but actually no..."
For those that haven’t realized it yet... Yozora’s driver is none other than Luxord’s somebody
Being the chauffeur and probably retainer of Yozora, it does seem to explain his power of time. Keeping things in order, making sure Yozora goes where he needs and arrives in an orderly fashion. Prolly played cards with buddies too or even Yozora
hes a nOoNE.
Captain Ramirez but if it is Luxord i wander how his connected to the ancient keyblade war
@@fisthound0027 A survivor of the war who moved to the other side? How the war ended is never explained... the unions couldn't have killed each other like that
I wonder if his driver is kinda like Alfred, I know Noc... er, Yozora has a dad, but he could have been there since he was a child, maybe the reason he knows card tricks is he used to entertain Yozora as a kid. XD
*FF15 Releases*
Nomura: Sea-Salt Flavor, extra salty
Lol it’s alright, many XV players feel the same way too lmao
@@sakonan4883 Good for you and those handful! The thousands that followed the original and saw what it was supposed to be, aren't impressed.
Ray Chase (the English VA for Noctis) is also the voice of the MoM.
So you could say Noctis is in this game twice now.
Noctis/MoM: I found you, Faker!
Yozora: Faker, I think you’re the fake one around here. You think you can compare yourself to me? You’re not good enough to be my fake
Noctis: I’ll make you eat those words!
who MoM?
@@stellacepttekai Master of Masters, the guy that nobody knows the identity of.
SignedCentaur Right, he also stalking Riku in previous secret ending, maybe tracking wrong guy because they also look similar
(Riku said it was a dream o.o)
@@stellacepttekai the master of masters.. the one potentially behind everything in kh
"I've been having these weird thoughts lately, like is any of this for real or not?"
Book-end
Kingdom Hearts plot be like: "None of this makes sense to me"
Gintoki San for real if the characters in the game are confused 🤷♂️ then what are we
THANK YOU
"corporate wants me to find the difference between these two videos."
They’re the same.
@@GcorpCoPrez That was an Office reference.
@@nnaproductions I'm positive he knows
@@MatiuxFox Oh doi.... My bad, I forgot it was Pam's line... X(
@@nnaproductions L
The "Fantasy based on reality" is a really good coincidence here, because it could be used for either clip and make sense
Yozora mentioned he doesnt normally look like what he is now and Yozora isnt his true name, at least that is what I am getting at. He might have some meta sense of awareness because he is aware that he should look like Noctus and have his name.
That's what MoM is after! He's Noct! He wants his story told and he's going to use Kingdom Hearts to reset the World just like Xehanort was trying to do.
For someone who didnt know final fantasy lore, im pretty confused. What just going on here man?
Wow, look how perfectly these line up. The angle, the shots, the exact length and the dialoge is exactly the same. This just blatenly proves that Nomura is so bound to this character and concept that he will do anything so make it work, using KH as a launching platform
I love my 60 dollars going to a completely separate and unconnected series, instead of the thing I actually paid for.
And the best part's when he ruined the thing I paid for, just so he could then take my money, and fund the thing I specifically did not pay for.
Thanks, Nomura!
The person that claimed that(probably the one above this comment) is ignorant and does not know anything of anything. As well Nomura did not mess up anything. It was all square Enix's fault
@Fandom Breaker Of course it is, I buy KH games to support the KH series, not to support Nomura's revival of a project he fucked up in the first place.
@zahclutchin Making games is reliant on infinitely more than the director, and he made his staff's lives infinitely worse by his incompetence.
So i guess i'll wait some extra 10 years, my life will be defined by "man waiting for Versus XIII"
And the day it finally comes out will be the most glorious day..one 20 years in the making
You won't have to wait 10 if the engine isn't shit again :)
Tetsuya "Come what may Vs XIII will be made" Nomura.
SE: *Kicks Nomura off FFV13 and turns it into FFXV*
Nomura: "Fine. I'll do it myself."
What if noctis dreamed the entire kingdoms hearts saga lmao
Oh no nomura better not screw this up but it will be hilarious all th kh fans are gonna go crazy
A plot twist to end all plot twists.
I will literally kms if that happens
We’re all living in Nomura’s dream
I feel like the kingdom hearts world is gonna be connected to the final fantasy world in kingdom hearts 4 finally
Square enix: and so 15 prevails and versus expires,
You need to focus in the other game
Nomura: my move isn't ?
S.E.: huh?
Nomura: (show's Disney Kingdom hearts) it's not over!
S.E.: come on it's not fair, I know I had you!
Nomura: yes ! You nearly did!, But a games no fun,
If you know where it's going.
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So is nobody going to bring up the driver looks and sounds exactly like Luxord? Dunno if there's a Japanese version of KH3 remind up yet but that is a huge giveaway. He even has ear piercing and the hair color looks just like his. I wouldn't be surprised if Demyx is an alternate reality version of Prompto.
Eng dub is Kaz Miller lol
That is luxord man I highly believe he returned to his real home
@@Obsidemon I thought it sounded more like Ray Chase, the guy that voiced Noctis in FFXV..? :o
Andy Pham wait... So you’re telling me Ray Chase voices both noctis and The master of masters... Why didn’t they have him voice Yozora?
same VA in japan as well.
"Ive been having these weird thoughts lately" broo that line kills my nervous system
OMG, I'm freaking out. The guy driving referred to Noctis as Nocitis Ouji (Prince Noctis) and the guys who literally uploaded this is literally named Ouji. It's all connected. Kingdom Hearts. Reconnect.
@@flouserschird Nomura is playing 4d chess while we are still playing checkers
The guy talking to Yozora is Luxord.
BYE BYE RECONNECT!
HELLO AN OATH TO RETURN!
I-
Isn't the guy driving, Cor? Thats the spelling? Sorry im confused
Yes and its same cutsene as ffv
Lol, Nomura will make versus 13 by hook by crook, even if it means inserting it in another game 😂
this is total bullshit, KH doesn't deserve this....
@@ZrCorelx the idea of sora going to the final fantasy universe is such a good one. I love disney, i really do, but change can be good for the franchise
@Mary's Mother oh please, the story stopped making sense around the Dream Drop. At this point, you just gotta sit tight and enjoy the ride that is Nomuras imagination
Mary's Mother I mean it’s a new sega now so if course it’s going to be different.
@@aricente I can't hear you over him literally focusing more on making his FF15 fanfiction than finishing this series properly.
No, it is not good for the series that the creator doesn't care for it, and is instead using it to make a project he was kicked off of because he was too incompetent to make it.
Versus Noctis will always be my favorite version. He looked so damn cool in this trailer.
Agree FFXV is also pretty pog but yonow
That moment you also realize in the bad ending that Sora turns into crystal and Yozora says 'I'll save you', like this was Sora's focus ala FFXIII and Versus within Fabula Nova Chrysalis.
Now we're all having weird thoughts lately!!!! 😱
Lol I should start charging for educating the masses.
Yeah, Sora turning to crystal was a major XIII lore-flashback for me. And seeing as the l'cie concept was originally in the VS XIII universe, I just cackled at Nomura's blatant use of scrapped material.
I actually really liked FFXV...but I really can't wait for Kingdom Hearts Versus XIII now.
oh my God
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
and in KHIII you FIGHT THIRTEEN DARKNESSES
KINGDOM HEARTS III (in a way) WAS ALREADY VERSUS XIII
It was always KH Vs XIII, it's about Sora versus the Organization XIII xDD
It’s EXACTLY THE SAME. Why does nomura deny it then in interviews
VegaPreferred probably because square won’t let him I bet. They want to keep thinking 15 was perfect. JUST LET NOMURA TELL THE STORY OF VERSUS 13 HOW IT WAS MEANT TO BE.
Tetsuya "This game will be made one way or another lol" Nomura
Nomura wanted to keep it simple and clean.
@@1polyron1 i hope he don't think twice
@@Sora-el-manco He went to his sanctuary to face his fears so he wouldn't think twice.
Yo when i saw the car scene i was like "WAITTTT A MINUTE, THIS LOOKS FAMILIAR"
In the Versus XIII trailer, the driver says "あれ 迫力ですね" (0:14) while in the Japanese version of the Kingdom Hearts scene the driver says "あれ すごいですね".
Due to the same sentence structure and the fact that both 迫力 and すごい can mean "impressive", the Versus XIII line could just as accurately be translated as "Impressive, is it not?".
None of this, makes sense to me.
Now we're cooking here... And it's getting very interesting. If KH4 will be more like FF Versus XIII vibe or it'll be FF Versus XIII, I'LL LOVE IT.
KH fans whenever Nomura releases something new: 1:33
That moment when you realize that this was secretly the first trailer for KH4.
At this point he’ll make his own final fantasy going to be called “Last Dream”
Me: Yep they’re same especially the car
Nomura: 🤫
I freaking love Nomura , he was like thanks for taking my project and turning it into something it was not meant to be . Now I am more excited to play the game that Noruma originally created
So Nomura create the old Trailer of FFv13 to remake KH3...
Where the god damn game Square Enix.
Yeah, where's my KH3, I can't see it.
Nomura when this DLC was being made: “This is a fantasy based on a cancelled game.”
When I heard the "I've been having this weird thoughts lately" I literally stated crying.
Omg......
I can't believe it is happening!!!
As a hyper-active knuckle head ninja wearing an orange tracksuit once said, "BELEIVE IT!!!"
@@1polyron1 *DATTEBAYO*
Final Fantasy versus 13 is back! Well, in Kingdom hearts 4!
Kingdom hearts versus 13
Kingdom hearts 1.3
Bunowa for the people who wanted more FF in kh again. We get the vs xiii saga.
@@yeelengmoua8035 you know there's a prize for the one who guesses right the next KH game name, they said it's 2 words and 8 letters, and versus 13 fits perfectly...
Nah, I'm sure that it'll get its own game before KH4.
Versus XIII coming
Noctis Lucis I fucking wish. Square Enix please. Admit 15 was a disaster and let nomura give us the real story 😭😭😭
Tetsuya "This game will be made one way or another lol" Nomura
@@ImagineXAdventures They let him make the game for 8 years and he did nothing concrete, 15 isn't a masterpiece but at least it was actually made.
Brian Silva actually made into what. A selfie road trip lol nah. Nomura would have eventually finished the game. And it would have been great. At least in versus there was gonna be more action in the fighting than just holding X the whole time to attack and using fuckin unlimited potions. First play through I only died once. The fuckin duscae demo had a better battle system than the base game. And more random enemies at night.
@Mustapha El Saytari it would probably just be called "verum rex: a kingdom hearts story"
The lighting in that 2011 Versus XIII CGI still looks good as hell to me. Like, I absolutely love it.
There's something in that original trailer that just sucks u back to watch it again and again
My theory:
Is Yozora a direct nod to Noctis? Yes. Is Yozora in fact Noctis? Hmmm. Outside the game we know so but inside KH it’s yet to be told. While Yozora can be a big player in the story to come I sorta saw this as symbolism. FFXIII Versus went on without Nomura and became XV. Final Fantasy XV is the heartless of Versus so the nobody would be...... Verum Rex. Nomura took his own situation and made it writing material. Hence “ A fantasy based on reality” 🤯
Tetsuya wants to Re Mind us that he’s not done with ff versus xiii
When nomura wasn't aloud to make final fantasy vs 13 he was just like "you fool I have 13 alternative accounts!"
It's not weird or petty Nomura wants to revive versus XIII. He spent almost 10 years working on it, just imagine working 10 years on something just for it to be erased, 10 years, where were you 10 years ago? and he seemed extremely passionate about the project in interviews too. Its not weird at all, and Nomura knows there are vs XIII fans, he's said to read fans opinions online for feedback
Imagine making characters that are very special and dear to you, and then someone else takes them and re-writes everything with only the goal of having a finished project on the shelves, erasing your intended feelings and love interests and all kinds of stuff. That has to just sting. I wish XV just made a new protagonist it feels weird just having the look and name of a character from something completely different there.
The issue is Nomura works on a lot of convoluted stuff, so it's possible Square got tired or thought it wouldn't be profitable. Look at FF VII, the whole series is so convoluted (I'm a fan of everything FF VII btw) and let's not even start with the lot of games from Kingdom Hearts. I do hope he gets something from Versus 13 out. It looked dope.
I'm curious as to how a Riku and Yozora meeting would go... "Why do you look like me?" in unison
This is great i loved it! I was wondering what this scene was then on my recommended, i saw the final fantasy verses and it was exactly like yozora's ending scene,
Plot Twist: What if Noctis is dreaming of Yozora' dream of Sora.
KH fans: "No! You can just make Final Fantasy cannon it will mess up timelines and be really confusing on what is real!"
Nomura: " haha, video game go vrrr"
Had to come back after the most recent leak. For ppl who might not know, the prototype version of the Verum Rex cinematic at the beginning of Toy Box world leaked and we can see how Yozora uses Noctis Engine Blade while fighting alongside Prompto and Gladiolus. We already knew Verum Rex is FF Versus XIII and Yozora is Noctis, but the fact they actually used the models for the concepts of the cinematic is crazy to me
Hes actually doing it holy shit
Plot twist: yozora is actually noctis
That's why Noctis is surrounded by guys. Ph, that explains why Sora is obssesed with Riku too, self insert characters.
Thats not really a plot twist cause its pretty obvious
So noctis=yozora=Mom=sora
Kingdom Hearts: Re:Mind. Remind you that FF Versus XIII is fucking real, Imao. Get ready, boiz
bruh...Nomura really cant let go..
Neither can any of us that have been waiting since the first trailer and saw something beautiful that got pushed out of the way
And good on him for that.
@@DigiCube4 You have only Nomura to blame for Versus 13 never being made.
Good
@@Peasham exactly this....he got too bold and took on too many projects and look where that got the games
Square: *removes nomura & puts him to character designer
Nomura: “none of this makes sense to me”
If i have to choose between having versus 13 or ff7 remake first I’ll chose versus 13! It was one of the most ambitious projet square Enix ever did. Too bad they forced nomura to drop the game so he can focus on kingdom heart 3
No, they forced Nomura to drop the game because he was bad at his job and couldn't finish the game.
Versus development was a mess, and both SE *AND* Nomura are to blame for it. SE kept pulling people to another projects, while Nomura got too ambitious with his ideas and kept changing stuff all the time instead of actually finishing them, and planning entire series out of it already. The game was only 25% complete when Tabata stepped in, and had to redo and drop lot of work to make it finished in time to the set deadline.
@HaremGodRance nah, you just dont understand game development. vs13 and ff7 are two different cases with different circumstances.
@HaremGodRance ffxv HAD to be out by the end of 2016, even as half-assed. so they had to try to patch it up afterwards through dlc. while i dont like that either or their decision to cut out story stuff, it was their choice in order to get the game out before deadline.
@@FeraNelia don't be naive! they cut out story content in order to sale it as DLC money is the only thing they had in mind! SE went full EA with the development of FF15
Kingdom Hearts 3 remind.... The reason it named remind was probably Nomura wants to remind us about Final Fantasy Versus XIII that it isnt dead yet
They've been called organization XIII this entire time...fuck
Woah
Versus and 15 both have great stories of their own, the only problem was that Versus was scrapped and 15 was unfinished.
I think xv story actually needs work done to it
May Nomura find peace in yozora
Did anyone also notice the OST for Dearly Beloved start to transition to a FFXV song O_O!!!!!? It happens when Sora says, "None of this.. Makes sense to me"
I'm glad I'm not the only one who can see the comparison.
literally everyone did. it couldn't be more obvious if they had tried it
Every time i see a Versus clip, Im amazed by the quality
Kind of scared that theyre mixing bits of versus 13 with KH. I feel like it wouldnt live up to its true potential and the grim/dark aspects would definitely be toned down. Another reason being that the KH story is sooo complex and crazy at this point that idk if all this should be mixed in. Plus yozora's design just makes me think attempt #3 at all this, with noctis and riku all looking the same except yozora has weapons that i'm not particularly fond of, especially that weird crossbow thing. I really wanted versus 13 to be a thing but its been a really bumpy road, and they butchered my boy Noctis in XV that definitely didnt live up to expectations. But maybe somehow they'll make it all work and it will be awesome which i hope so badly.
maybe this is marketing/a sneak peek of verum rex, and it wont actually be in kh?
With Sora being sent to another world (presumably Versus 13 world) there is a chance that Disney worlds may not even be in Kingdom Hearts 4
This man brought versus 13 back from the void
1:15 Luxord ?!?!!!?????
If the next KH game gonna be Sora and Yozora travelling throughout the unfinished Square Enix game!
This feels eerily similar to how Kojima used resources intended for MGSV development to stealthily produce PT and deploy it using his station without getting internal executive approval (likely because he felt he had to to prove there's an interest)
Feels like Nomura is sneakily pushing Versus XIII
I have been waiting since the very first trailer of Versus XIII..and while some games just don't come out, this is the one game, the one final fantasy i truly wanted.
Watch him actually make Verum Rex a real game on it's own to feel like FF Versus XIII wasn't a wasted concept. Then in a secret scenario of that game, it reveals how that world got connected to KH. So in other words, we've been seeing a crossover by a game that's secretly in development.
Just from this short clip, I can safely assume that Nomura had dried an entire ocean..
Just when I thought I had finally moved on from versus XIII.... why Nomura? Why?
Wow, I knew these scenes were very similar. And in the original non DLC secret ending the theme that plays is basically just a couple of notes away from Somnus. But I didn't realize that these clips were THAT similar. They didn't even majorly change the design of the vehicles, timing, or camera angles!
It's not fair! Stop teasing me, Nomura! I want Versus XIII to be real!
it came out already as this game called final fantasy xv, check it out sometime its not bad
@@ronceval different games hence the title different, under different directors, and different stories, they just took the names and majority of character ideas from Nomura, and got lazy with a lot of the game
@@UnrealDreamer Can you guys quit with this stupid shit? Got lazy? Nomura didn't even have a game outside a cgi tech demo. Tabata literally had to crunch in order to make a game to meet the deadline.
@@Darksasune13 yeah cause the engine they were using for versus was shit and made for linear stories like 13, not open world like they were for versus but of course you should know that already
cause was the same team of FFversus13, it is an cameo . i feel a lot of love from the work of the creators that surely fought to make this camera layout
Do you guys know the insanity that would happen if Nomura and Kojima joined forces?
Remember the next game Eraqus was going to show Xehanort? This time, it would be a game of 7 darknesses and 13 lights.
Yozora translates to "Night Sky" as opposed to Sora's regular "sky."
Theory: Yozora is one of the 7 darknesses and will be the protagonist of the next story, or at least one of the protagonists. His story will set up his battle *versus XIII lights*
Zenith Tempest if this is true i will accept nomura as being undoubtedly genius
Thts a good theory Yozora trying to save Sora so their can be 13 lights again since without him itll be only 12
I thought the next game was 7 darknesses vs 1 Light(King piece)
Meaning, Yozora vs MoM and the ancient Keyblade masters.
MillionShadesofDarkness same bro
Not to add more confusion by mentioning another final fantasy (like 15 and v13), in the shadowbringers expansion of FFXIV, you basically have to restore balance between light and darkness. Maybe in this next KH game, light becomes too powerful so you have to then try and balance it out with darkness with Yozora?
The Nomura's revenge
Nomura won't let it die 🤷🏾♂️ 🙄he's just a little bitter I guess.
Why would he? The little bit of vXIII we have is better than A L L of XV.
I would be too and I actually am as well. It sucks to be waiting for a game for so long just for it be competely replaced
@@QuixoticUkulele hahahahahaahahahaha
I cant wait to play Versus XIII, a Final Fantasy XV but with terrible dialogue and stupid story.
I cant wait for Versus
@Mustapha El Saytari Lol, The dude had 9 years to make the game. Square Enix took him off of the project because he could never finish it.
ShockinglyBleh Wait I don’t understand so the game never came out?
I hope nomura makes this game i swear to everything in this planet i will buy it day one.
Nomura is like Snyder he doesn't give Up until he get it, even when everybody says no.
Yozora is Noctis's nobody.
In the end of FFXV, Noctis dies ending up creating his Nobody named Yozora
I will never forget Versus Xlll....
Not gonna lie, if I was Nomura, I'd be mad enough to do this too.
Square did him pretty dirty.
The hair, the voice...That driver is Luxord!
I like how instead of really answering any questions, nomura instead create a 100 more questions. almost as if none of this is planned out...
you silly goose its not a kingdom hearts game if it dosnt add more questions to the player
Square Enix: Sorry Tetsuya...we can't make Final Fantasy versus XIII...but hey! You can make another Kingdom hearts game!
Nomura: I Know... I will make Kingdom hearts versus XIII...
Square Enix: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
So you're telling me that all these 18+ years of Kingdom Hearts series was a pre-sequel to Final Fantasy Versus XIII??? Omg, my mind is blown! This is why I freaken love Square Enix, I don't know if I can keep up with this time wait for each game to come out xD
You shouldn't love square Enix when they're at fault as to why versus wasn't made
Nomura you absolute madlad
I think I’m just obsessed but the guy saying “commander” sounds like Ray Chase to me xd
Sounds like Robin Atkins Downes to me. Teehee.
PolyRon ohh you’re right, I hear it too
@@audriari Many are theorizing it's Luxord or his human counterpart. The evidence heavily supports this. His English and Japanese voice match with the driver. Everything from the driver's hairline, the back of his hair, the shape of his head, his silhouette, his voice, and a lot of context all support this. The dlc hints early on about WHO is Luxord. After being defeated by Sora in the Keyblade Graveyard, Sora says "Let's meet again when we're both people." It's a ton of supporting evidence. Oh and Tetsuya Nomura said Luxord was his favorite character. Consider Nomura really wanted to make Final Fantasy Versus XIII and now we see Luxord included, the evidence is enormous.
@@1polyron1 I agree with you 1000%i think the same things,i think really is luxord
PolyRon with that context then now I’m sure I was just being obsessive over Noctis’ voice haha
That’s so cool tho! I haven’t been able to try and check the dlc out but now that you said that it makes sense. Thank you for replying!
For the moment this kingdom hearts Venrum Rex & Quadratum is a resurrection of FF Versus XIII.