Korg PS 3300 FS - Analog Polyphony King
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- Опубліковано 16 гру 2024
- Korg announced an insane project: The resurrection of the PS 3300 FS.
I had a chat with Korg's rep about how it came about.
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I like that it has a MIDI thru in case you want to daisy chain it to a Volca.
Or in case you bought two?
That sound... So gorgeous. KORG saw the Moog One and thought, hold my beer.
It would complement a Moog One very nicely, for those people who can swing both.
This is such a massive FU to Roland and I'm absolutely here for it all day long. Korg have obviously been REALLY listening to the community 😍 Shout out TE for the recording mic in this video too, fantastic quality and clarity in such a loud and chaotic environment.
Korg has had all of these synths in the works for years. The issue with releasing them was getting the parts and manufacturing them.
Korg underdstands that it's not about "cloning" or "ghosts of the past". Instrument concepts that still work can still make new music.
How many people will be buying these though?
@@J-HzPeople with $13K
At this point Roland is dead to me. Korg reissuing their old gear AND ARP’s old gear while Roland tricking kids into thinking synths have yearly subscriptions. Major suckitude.
the microtuning knobs should be on every synth 😱
Diva
That resonator circuit should be on every synth
The wood should be on every synth
Cuckoo with the best demo I ever seen so far of that monster
Agree - best interaction with it of any vids I’ve seen so far
Check Anthony Marinelli's demo ....
Full, snappy, and routing to explore for the next 50 years. What more could one want?
I would really like to have 3 of these and hook them all together with Midi and patch them to each other -Because 3 oscillators times 49 voices times 3 synthesizers is finally "enough". They wouldn't let me order three though, sadly. Probably to my benefit in the end because I bet if I did that it would rip a hole in spacetime and all the lights in the northern hemisphere would dim until I turn it off. 😂
A cheaper synth
A lower price tag?😀
@@crhkrebsi reckon the 86% sized version without keybed will release for $3499.
@@thomvsse was that the percentage $$ drop with other Korg products that were “miniaturized”?
There are magical vibes emanating from this Synth 👍
Wow this thing should be certified as a spaceship.
Amazing. MUST HAVE!!!
Roland, take notes! This is how you do it! This is what people want! Full size reissues, not some tiny crappy version.
This was great and you really showed the best demo so far by starting from scratch. I know it's using octave divide rather than 49 true oscs but that is a big part of the 70s sound for me... the sound is already great so you can imagine adding modern reverbs and it sounding wild. Add the storage and it's quite something. Would be interesting to know if the patching is stored as a program... I guess not but it should be possible I think...
What a beast of a synth
This looks like so much fun and something we could all get lost in, playing around with the possibilities with so many different variables for sound would be an absloutely amazing experience I wonder how much it costs, I am halfway through the video and loving it
This synth is insane. Wish I had 13k down the back of the sofa! Would love to hear this through some lush reverbs. Love your channel Cuckoo!
This great video motivated me to delve deeper in Cherry Audio's VST version of the synthesizer. Thanks for sharing. Btw, your walkthrough video of the Novation Peak was super helpful.
wow what a beautiful patch you were able to make so quickly lol
Does Korg accept kidneys as payment? I want this! 😂
Kidneys from others... 😈
Thank you so much Cuckoo! 🎉❤
Lovely demo. It’s really hard to get a feeling across in a video like this but you did a great job of that. Always sounds out of tune and I love that ! Hope you have a great NAMM. Sorry to have missed you !
Those were the good ol days...Great instruments...Music class in high school...we had an arp 2600...fun toy..
I've used the cherry audio version, and it's amazing. Those individual temperament knobs allow you to detune in the most organic sounding way by setting each one, on just one section, to slightly different cents. Its very nice sounding. I can only imagine what this monster sounds like. But i have to face reality: this was not meant for me.
As nice as the new PS 3300 is, I think I'd get along better with a Hydrasynth or a Peak. It may only do 8 notes at a time, but that's plenty for my purposes and the underlying engine is far more powerful and flexible.
I will never find one at a car boot sale, for sure
@@ToyKeeper I have a Hydrasynth Explorer, and you're absolutely right. Whenever I start to use it, I can count on seeing the sun come up.
@@incaroads001One of these years I'll have to get one. I don't have a good polysynth. I'm really enjoying my Force and Pro 3 though, so I don't really _need_ another synth... I just _want_ one.
@@ToyKeeper Preach !
Oh my god thats a monster, in a good way! Love KORG
I would use this for sound design purposes only and making fully use of its polyphonic power. I have played with Cherry Audio’s VST version of the PS3300 and it clearly gives a great insight to how the actual PS3300 works in its workflow and its patch points. Nothing beats the analog Korg PS3300 !!!!
I need at least an hour of Cukoo playing with this amazing man toy!!
There is one more significant difference between the reissue and the original not mentioned anywhere atm: Korg changed the design of the Envelope Generator 1 to ADSR, at the original it was an ADS envelope with switchable Release, that made the Sustain knob control the Release instead of Sustain. But I always thought that the EG1 is the weakest part of the synth and appreciate that Korg changed it to a more usual and handy ADSR.
he has commented that they have a wide envelope for ambient sound.
But sometimes I think it would be better to have a not so wide range,
because you have the same knobs range and if it would be make a difference in
sound if you turn the knob within 1 millimeter than it would make sense if you
have a smaller envelope range and you can adjust more in detail.
So maybe it would make sense to have a new knob which controls the range of the envelope.
perfect sound
So cool to finally see the 3300 in action! Is it just me or was 13:54 about to turn into the great fairy's fountain 🧚🧚♂🧚♀🧚
had to delete my comment after seeing the same thing here - defintiely!
Where it began it ends. I remember being in electronic music courses in the 80's with Alan Strange learning how to get a sound out of walls of modular synths, the big Buchla at the time. If we could get it to bubble, woosh, and sizzle we got an A in the class.
And now they are rereleasing his book. My first class- we had a week to get something out of the Buchla and onto tape. Not everyone succeeded ☮
Really interesting. Seems like Korg saw that there is actually demand for behemoths like this as evidenced by the fact that Analog Solutions is actually selling the Maximus and Colossus. Pretty cool to see them undertake what is essentially a passion project even if 99.9% of us synth lovers out here will never even be in the same room as one.
Ok…..can Yamaha just hand over the CS-80 blueprints to Korg?……and we just get this taken care of…..ok?
sooo, if this is FS will korg also make a M that is 60% smaller, without the keyboard and more affordable? 🤔
they could defo reutilise the technology and put keyboard scanning on it to reduce the polyphony needed... 8 voice per module is really all that's needed... the full polyphony is a bit of a gimmick I think..
Despite of it's price it's going to be sold like hot cake.
Thanks Cuckoo, first video manipulating the beast ❤
im dying to see one inside .
Well, there is little left to say about this semi-modular.
Although I don't like the knobs it has, they are the same ones that my MS20 FS has, the white stripe is like a silicone that turns yellow and it is really ugly when it gets dirty, I try to clean them and some asked for that white stripe, I had I had to buy new ones, but I decided to buy the original Korg MS-20 ones, which are made of plastic and without that problem of deteriorating silicone.
For the most part, very good, I hope the lucky ones enjoy it. 👍
This utterly destroys Moog One. If I had this kind of disposable income I would order one immediately.
Why on earth would this destroy the Moog One? These are both very different instruments. As a composer I really stick by the Moog One, but the Korg can happily live beside it though.
@@Asyouwere while they are not VERY similar these two are also not VERY different instruments and for me those differences are what put the Korg way ahead. (Iridium, Minifreak, and the like are very different instruments) While the Moog One has a broad and "complete" voice architecture the filter per oscillator and especially the resonators per oscillator are pure magic. With good programming anyone would be hard pressed to tell the Moog from say a 3rd Wave in a mix. For a lot of 3300 territory it is the only synth that will get you there. None of that takes away from the Moog and what it does just that the Korg also covers a fair bit of that space as well.
10:00 godly sounds. 🔥👊🧡👍🔥
You had me at PS-330
Can hex mult cables be used with this synth? I'm assuming yeah but was curious
EPISKA!
Amazing
So with only 12 microtuning knobs we will still only have 12 notes per octave, correct? For true micro tunings you’d need to be able to tune every key, like I can do on my Keen Association 220e.
Still, where can I sign up for this beauty? If they really make them for 13k USD, that’s 265$ per voice (= per key). Compare that to 3750$ per voice for a used Jupiter 8, for instance.
True micro tuning is really in the ear of the beholder, I get you want to put each key at it's own fundamental. But if you really wanted you could build up stems with different tunings here. I think the point is more you can do just intonation or any other sort of prepared piano sort of tuning. It's such a gigantic polyphonic machine it's hard to imagine them creating 49 tuning dials for each layer. You'd surely need digital menu for that, and might as well reach for a linnstrument of you want to play that way.
Yes indeed! Also, I have come to know now that indeed the synth doesn’t have 3 oscillators per key. The oscillators are devided down, which is why you have 12 tuning knobs - one for each of the 12 notes of one octave. It all makes sense.
Amazing. I guess I’ll be waiting for some sample packs though lol
Do the knobs on the PS-3300 transmit SysEx/CC message via MIDI? You know, like the Juno-106 and JD-800 do.
Hope that there will be at least VST version of this synth soon, world needs it so hard.
there are two, one by cherry audio, and a free one by fullbucketmusic
i use the fullbucket one a lot, it's really good
there already is : Cherry Audio PS3300.
And full bucket has the PS-3300, PS-3200, and PS-3100, each a little different
@@cubistguitar and free!
@@cubistguitar I love the sound of the full bucket synth. I just need a week to learn the workflow 😆✨🪐
Here's hoping they do the 3100 as well. It's 1/3 of this one, so it should be much more reasonable to produce. I could easily see that coming out for about the price of an OB-X8.
Cool ! A conversation piece 😂
It looks awesome but imy guessing id have to sell a kidney
probably more than just a kidney, it's 14k 🤣
Good thing God gave us keyboardists three kidneys.
Please Korg make the QUADRA next ❤
Nice
B-e-a-you-tifull. Love the in-depth exploration on sound and visuals.
What’s the audio recorder/mic you’re using? Remarkably clear
Teenage engineering CM-15 and TP-7.
Trent from NIN will have two I reckon.
🥲 hurts to hear something so beautiful and so financially out of reach
No velocity?
I don't know if this instrument makes sense today, but it is, despite the price tag of 13.5 k, not as expensive as the original at its time, and certainly significantly less than today's used prices for the rare OG PS-3300 (I have seen an offer charging 65 k £) .
It is an ambitious step to reissue the top model (quite unaltered), so we can hope that Yamaha may rethink their policy and do us another favor (before Behringer does).
I personally would prefer the Alesis Andromeda, but maybe with a better styled case.
I remember buying LPs like Space's Deliverance (1977) and being amazed by the tiny pic of them around the PS3300... it looked such an amazing keyboard even though the LP itself was kinda pants...
Looking at inflation calculator the 1977 price would be about 30k in today's money for this synth.
@@neilloughran4437 Ha, That group wasn't quite on my radar ! Thanks for that, I'm hearing them on bandcamp now ;-)
I was able to play a bit with a PS-3100 around 1980, in the store where I bought my first synth, the MS-20. I had to sneak in, when the owner was away, cause I was 15 and she was afraid I could damage the expensive unit. But a friendly employee let me play with it. Later, I could spend a day with another PS-3100 in a studio, just for fun and exploring. But I found it quite hard to get more massive or impressive sounds out of it. So I was unimpressed by it. I think b/c it has only 1 osc. But I remember, it was excruciatingly expensive then for normal people. About 7 MS-20 IIRC. The PS-3300 was only something we heard about, an instrument that was only for bigger studios. You could buy a not-so-small flat for it.
Awesome! Did you plug the 3300 into your Tx-6 for us too hear it better for your demo play?
What no MPE?? 😂
Enfin un bontempi ,
Does it sound Godly or what :O
I guess Korg could simply make a cheaper version of this by using keyboard scanning and limiting/controlling the voice count and hence the number of voice cards required just like all polyphonics since this era... back in 1976/77 microprocessors were really coming through (Oberheim 4 voice used E-mus approach) and solving many of these problems... 99% of the time these synths will be used to play a max of 8 notes... still it is interesting to note the mindset of designers in this era... and I applaud Korg for releasing a no-holds barred version of the original.
I am in high hopes that Korg will release the PS-3300 FS as software! (I know Cherry has, but Korg knows their own stuff way better!).
Which artists recorded with this synth?
Supposedly Aphex Twin had 3 at one point...
Jean-Michel Jarre on Equinoxe, Klaus Schulze, Pierre Salkazanov (Zanov) and Vince Clarke.
I LOOOVE whats going on around 18:40
Probably the first owners would be Jean -M Jarre + Vince Clarke + Junkie XL - hahahaha
Wow
is this a haunt machine?
That poor Korg guy must be loosing his voice by now.
Yeah....great...£13,000! I'll have three....😂😂😂
It’s really hard to feel excited about a piece of gear only an elite few can afford or even get the opportunity to play 🤷♂️
with all due respect to these synthesizer companies , id like to have some of what the engineers are smoking putting short hinged keys on a 13,000 dollar synthesizer. have they ever played a vintage synth? one with a long hinged keys ? i know i sound like a broken record, but in this instance im happy to be the town crier . all the dave smith synths have tp/9s now days , its really a shame . that being said i love your videos and music cuckoo, be well!
Very old, very new and very expensive!
Given that FS in the name, could they be working on a M version!?
Not really my jam anyway, as I am not so great a keyboardist. Still, it is going to make someones day.
maybe play something that’s not completely out of tune, just a thought. amazing synth tho
I don’t have $15,000 to spend on a synth ATM… 😐
Completely authentic??
So it still has Cadmium in it?
That's the magic ingredient, so yeah.
No, they can't do that anymore. The design seems to have been updated in that regard as well.
@@OMG_so_Nerdy it might affect the sound though; sometimes sacrifices are needed.
Another video he said it does not have Cadmium.
Also there were no patch memories on the PS3300 they were on the PS3200 which came a year later so not totally authentic, but even so - well done KORG👍
che buco nell'acqua
I think this has been the best performance so far but it still doesn't show the full potential of this synthesizer.
yeah I'm still waiting to be blown away... it was great how Cuckoo started from scratch so we could hear the building blocks though... the patches they had stored and nothing to write home about however...
When I listen to this I hear no difference in sound to Cherry Audios PS-3300. I think that I might not sell my liver and mortgage my wife after all.
Moog one sounds away better
It will cost about the price of a car...😆
I just say VST 😅
Ha ha. Yeah this is not for the average person.
Full Bucket's FB-3300 is an amazing recreation of this synth! And it's absolutely FREE!
😂$13,000 okay Korg.
Poor sound
Listen the difference with the vintage PS series
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not easy to manipulate this machine
🤔but only for rich's producers😔
Very nice ….but I’ll wait for behringers £500 version 😀
Which will be monophonic, single voice and broken in 14 months.
@@g3cd 😂
Are you paying attention Roland? We are tired of repackaged digital software synthesizers shoved into fragile, miniature plastic boxes with crappy knobs and faders. The boutique line has become like “direct to streaming” market of movie sequels. Yeah, a few people will plop down some cash for cheap imitations of the past, but the endless stream of derivative products is not that interesting or even reliable. It only tarnishes the Roland name in the long run while other companies continue to release new and interesting products.
I GOT THE vst SOUNDS JUST THE SAME
Every time a new synth comes out there's always some nerd going off about his silly little VST. Enjoy twiddling knobs with a mouse on your lame-ass laptop, bro. 🤘
its a bit exp for a synth that well ... does not even sound as good as stock logic vst
But why? $13K for something that you can get sounds that I have heard before, a thousand times. Korg would have been better off releasing a new Trident, DV 800, 770 or Polysix.
Trident MKIII
This is like having an orgasm over a Model T car while your neighbor is driving a McLaren. Dare I be the first one to say this is all about living in the past and the sound is CRAP compared to modern tech? OK, I just did. This will do nothing for Korg's performance as a company. How about moving forward instead of backwards for no benefit?
I agree with this message
It will have a ridiculous price and so it only feeds elitism. Something we finally do not need in music making !! I hope Behringer will copy this one soon ate 1/8th of this idiot price. Good sound or not.
But isnt it elitism that makes Behringer so cheap?
A grand piano is far more expensive than this. A normal piano or something like an accordion is about the same price. It seems very specific to today’s synth world, that people think they should be able to own every new synth.
sounds like a poly reissued ms 20...
Well, not quite, but also more. MS-20 has no resonators, and only 2 VCOs. This one has three. It was a very good decision not to reissue the 3100 (one VCO) or the 3200 (no resonators).
The polyphony here is in reality only 12-part, 49-keys is achieved by frequency-division.
So it's 12x 1,5 =18x MS-20 😀
@@pontram I think they should have added the ensemble effect though... that was pretty nice.
@@neilloughran4437 If you buy one and you are nearly broke then, you could buy a Behringer Solina or aVC-340 and use their FX (if that's possible) - they are IMO sounding nice and authentic. Or, cheaper, you buy a Ibanez mini chorus (csmini), if available. Imagine the PS-3300, modern altar of a lost era, standing in its own room just to have the adept humbly kneeling in front of it, and on its top there is a cheap FX pedal. What a heresy 😄
seems. cool but also seems outdated and too big for my Space .. , i like Korgs. smaller and newer products. more