Wow. Just wow. The amount of detail from past 4 generations is amazing. I shared this with 2 groups, one with 2,000 members, another with 50,000 members. You deserve some more subscribers.
@ Yes, hands down. The only thing I’ve been hung up on is how much RAM to get. I ended up buying the M4P 12/16 with 24/512. I’m going to install the apps I use and run some tests. Depending on how it does, I may end up exchanging it for a 48/512 or maybe even 1TB.
@@organizedchaosmark gotcha, that makes sense. I think the base m4 could probably do what i need for a bit, but its going to be my daily driver so idont want to be kneecapped. the base m4 pro seems ideal, for me at least. 48gb of ram would absolutely rip, but your getting into base m4 pro studio territory likely
@ yeah, the price jump to 48gb is a tough pill to swallow, especially since you’re inching closer to Studio pricing. I’m pretty sure that the base m4p is going to be more than sufficient for my needs. Looking forward to setting it up and putting it through its paces.
Hello and sending much appreciation for your work from Toronto. Sorry I missed the opportunity to say so in person. Even though I’m a pro audio guy, you continually offer performance comparisons and insights that are universally applicable. 👍🏽👍🏽 My M1 Mac Studio sits silently on my desk, even running 500+ track ProTools sessions. Definitely considering an upgrade to an M4 Max next year 🤞🏽🤞🏽.
So glad I found your channel as I'm making the long overdue conversion from maxxed out Mac Pro Intel to Mac Studio Silicon. Pro photographer, 40 years experience, Mac user since Mac II
As a hobbyist photographer with an M1 Mac Mini 16gb memory and 512gb ssd, I found this video really useful. I don’t have the workflow of a professional, but I would like a cost effective upgrade as a begin my retirement, as this will hopefully see me out. It has confirmed my decision to buy the M4 pro Mac Mini with 24gb memory and a 512gb ssd.
Thanks for stressing out the importance of encoder/decoder for export speed. Nobody else is doing this and your data saved me from buying M4 Pro Mini. I went for the heavily discounted, brand new M1 Max Studio instead.
I'm just thesis wondering whether to choose Mac mini m4 pro 14/20 48gb RAM or Mac Studio 12/30 64gb RAM. I work with video in fcpx and photo in Lightroom. However, with GPU testing the studio performs better. I have one foot in choosing Mac Studio but I still have thoughts whether it is better to invest in the latest m4 pro. I also would like the mac to work with me for a few years. Currently iMac 2020 with 96gb RAM 16gb radeon pro 5700xt i7 intel
There is no doubt at all, this is the best channels for complete and deep reviews, thanks. I will acquire the Mac Mini in a few days, this is a very great insight.
This is an absolute ton of testing and exactly what I was looking for as well, thank you for putting in that work and giving us an incredibly comprehensive comparison.
Thanks for doing such an exhaustive look at such a wide range of systems - really helps see where you'll benefit for spending more, and where you won't. Other than a few odd results (the base M1/M2/M3 being fastest on the Pano stitch, oddly slow time for 14" M2M on the LrC Export), I can't see much to question in your testing, and nobody else is doing anything like this comprehensive. You've both given me reasons to want to upgrade from my M1 Pro 32GB/2TB 14", and reasons not to (or to look at configs I never would have considered) - no small feat! Thanks for all the great work!
From this day forward, I will always watch your videos whenever there new mac releases, macs are really go to machine for creatives like photographers and videographers.
Thanks - this only confirms my choices and reasoning based upon my work and analysis of the leaked benchmarks. Amazing compliments you will receive for sharing this with us.
As always this is the best review comparison for creators on youtube! I went with the mac mini m4 pro. So far very impressed but the fan noise is a bit of a downer. Hope that I rarely really need the full perfomance of the chip.
Excellent video! Could you elaborate on the thermal performance differences between the machines, especially under heavy workloads? I'm concerned about noise levels.
PHENOMENAL analysis, thank you! Interesting to see how my 16”MBP M1M 64GB 8TB still is right up there in terms of performance for many of the tasks that I do daily (Lightroom Classic import/export, denoise, ai masks…etc). I’m really looking forward to your future video on the M4 Max machines. The Max SoCs are really the way to go for Pro users so you get the huge boost in GPU cores, memory bandwidth…
Great to hear your opinion about the m4 family! looking forwards to the M4 max one to get a full picture. I just have a question as a not even one video per week user with LR and FCP, if I don't need to save time in pro workflow, I am interested in the comparison between M1 Pro and m4, to me it seems this generation of m4 is already similar to the M1 Pro right?
Wow, lots of testing, Art! My mind is about to explode but this gave me the information I need. I think a base.Mac Mini M4 Pro with a 1TB SSD is in my future. Thanks, great job.
@ Apple M1 Ultra 48-core 64GB memory. When I get the new mini I Will do some comparisons basically testing out things I do frequently in LRC. If it’s no faster I will just send it back to Apple
Great video, just liked and subscribed too as the depth and detail in top tier and well beyond what many multiple if not 10s of people channels outputs and all done as a 1 person. Wow. You should be proud of what you are doing and have achieved.
I appreciate your comparisons and likely best use for each upgrade configuration. I was ready to get the M4 Pro spec'd for photo work but opted to wait for an upcoming Studio due to the Mini's fan revving up and audible.
Thanks Art, good to see you. While the Pro is very good, one point not brought up is as soon as you start upgrading it to the higher chip, SSD, and maybe Ram, you are very close to the Max Studio base price, and the M2 Max is a terrible buy as it’s soon to be replaced. Take the last gen that had comparable specs between the Mini Pro and Max Studio, the pro was a horrible value unless you kept it base. I predict the same to happen here between March and June when the new Studios come out. A used M2 Studio could be worth a look though.
Absolutely the best. There are the” day to day” tests that I need but everyone else is doing synthetic comparisons that doesn’t tell me a jack shit about how fast my pano from 10 A7R images will be merged or how fast the AI fill will work in LR.
Thank you for that profund Review. Was considering to switch from my Windows PC to a M4P and I'm really surprised that the Lightroom Denoise for a D810 file on the M4P takes 29 sec. On my i5-6600k with a Nvidia 4060 it takes 24 seconds. Thank's again, 1649€ saved
Always waiting for you to have the last word if it’s worth or not. Thank you for the effort! Will probably go with the M4P 48gb/1tb, currently on the M1/16gb/256 and to often run out of memory
Wow! More than review this is a MASTER CLASS! Any consideration about one or 10Gb network? I want to keep the new mini for at least four years. No other computer in a network in my home.
This is a really good review, thank you for your effort. Based on my use and budget, I’ve gone with the M4 Mini Pro (base option) as I’m upgrading from the M1 Mini 16GB 512GB. I’m using LR with 3rd party noise reduction, Audicity for audio podcasts editing, and Final Cut for video editing. To get the base Mac Studio M2 Ultra is $800 more Cdn. At this point, M4 Mini or Mini Pro is so much better than the M1 that I have, that it’s going to help quite a bit, especially now that I’m getting into astrophotography which is has to stack hundreds to thousands of files to make one image (star alignment, image processing for imperfections). Glad to see that the middle of the road performance vs the top Core computers is still pretty good! The Mac Studio M2 Ultra base in Canada is $5500!
This is the comprehensive analysis that's missing from other UA-camr's tests - great job!
Exactly why I subscribed to him months ago. Other tubers are still talking about the power button 😒
@@defyiant Exactly who gives a shit about the power button, basically use it once to power on, and thats it lol.
This is the only technical video anyone needs, thanks art
Thank you so much
Amazing work. Best Apple Mac review for photographers
Thank you!
Best Mac comparison for photographers! Thank you Art!
My pleasure!
Wow. Just wow. The amount of detail from past 4 generations is amazing. I shared this with 2 groups, one with 2,000 members, another with 50,000 members. You deserve some more subscribers.
Thank you! much apprecaited!
I appreciate your style as well as your thoroughness. It's like sitting down and having a normal conversation.
Thank you!
I literally gasped when I saw this go live! Awesome work as usual, Art! That M4P is a screamer.
yup
Bravo! I’ve watched dozens of MM M4/M4P videos over the past week, and this is by far the most informative. Thank you!!
Did you, like I, come to the conclusion the M4P (12/16) is worth the premium if you are purposely buying into this generation to sit on for a while?
@ Yes, hands down. The only thing I’ve been hung up on is how much RAM to get. I ended up buying the M4P 12/16 with 24/512. I’m going to install the apps I use and run some tests. Depending on how it does, I may end up exchanging it for a 48/512 or maybe even 1TB.
@@organizedchaosmark gotcha, that makes sense. I think the base m4 could probably do what i need for a bit, but its going to be my daily driver so idont want to be kneecapped. the base m4 pro seems ideal, for me at least. 48gb of ram would absolutely rip, but your getting into base m4 pro studio territory likely
@ yeah, the price jump to 48gb is a tough pill to swallow, especially since you’re inching closer to Studio pricing. I’m pretty sure that the base m4p is going to be more than sufficient for my needs. Looking forward to setting it up and putting it through its paces.
Thank you!
this is how tech reviews should be, not like 90% of bloggers
haha, where the world is going now a days.... and Thank you!
He didn’t just conduct a test; he delivered an in-depth lecture on the M family analysis!
Thank You!
This is by far my trusted apple reviewer here in yt. Thanks for consistently making these videos for us!
Thank you!
Just love the overall comparison of all the generations at timestamp 17:12. Thx for putting all the effort. Great analysis
Much appreciated!
Fantastic Video for Photographers! The best testing on the internet by far! A LOT of information to go through. Thank you!
Thank you!
I have just begun my videography journey. This is incredibly rigorous and helpful analysis. Thank you.
You're very welcome!
Amazing job for a one man channel. Clear, to the point and all that data so clearly presented. Good job!
Thank you!
Hello and sending much appreciation for your work from Toronto. Sorry I missed the opportunity to say so in person.
Even though I’m a pro audio guy, you continually offer performance comparisons and insights that are universally applicable. 👍🏽👍🏽
My M1 Mac Studio sits silently on my desk, even running 500+ track ProTools sessions. Definitely considering an upgrade to an M4 Max next year 🤞🏽🤞🏽.
No worries!
So glad I found your channel as I'm making the long overdue conversion from maxxed out Mac Pro Intel to Mac Studio Silicon. Pro photographer, 40 years experience, Mac user since Mac II
nice!
Great chatting with you at the show Art! I'm sure you're relieved to have that heavy heavy research weekend over with :))
Yes and now it is all filming time. But I was a pleasure to chat with you!
always a pleasure watching your videos. Simple but very helpful suggestions, keep up the good work Art !
Thank you! Cheers!
As a hobbyist photographer with an M1 Mac Mini 16gb memory and 512gb ssd, I found this video really useful. I don’t have the workflow of a professional, but I would like a cost effective upgrade as a begin my retirement, as this will hopefully see me out. It has confirmed my decision to buy the M4 pro Mac Mini with 24gb memory and a 512gb ssd.
Nice!
Thanks for mentioning the Fan Noise mixing audio with an audible fan noise is an absolut no go...thumbs up
Thank you!
Excellent, excellent review! Thanks for reviewing most of the "heavy-weight" programs in use currently. Helped make my decision easier. Cheers!
Thank you!
Thank you, best answers for photographers! I can hold off until the next studio release.
Nice!
Phenomenal work on this, really looking forward to more of these types of videos on the other M4 models!
Thank you!
Thanks for stressing out the importance of encoder/decoder for export speed. Nobody else is doing this and your data saved me from buying M4 Pro Mini. I went for the heavily discounted, brand new M1 Max Studio instead.
Thank you!
I'm just thesis wondering whether to choose Mac mini m4 pro 14/20 48gb RAM or Mac Studio 12/30 64gb RAM. I work with video in fcpx and photo in Lightroom. However, with GPU testing the studio performs better. I have one foot in choosing Mac Studio but I still have thoughts whether it is better to invest in the latest m4 pro. I also would like the mac to work with me for a few years. Currently iMac 2020 with 96gb RAM 16gb radeon pro 5700xt i7 intel
There is no doubt at all, this is the best channels for complete and deep reviews, thanks. I will acquire the Mac Mini in a few days, this is a very great insight.
thank you!
No one and I mean NO ONE goes this hard on reviews like Art and that is why I love watching them.
Thank you!
Amazing down to earth and straight to the point review unlike the overexcited reviews of other UA-camrs
Thank you!
Great review Art! Thank you so much and this is definitely the best review for pro photographers.
My pleasure!
Your channel is incredible, the quality from your videos is amazing, your channel deserv 1M+ followers.
You said it, Thank you!
That lightroom 1:1 import time for the mac mini pro is insane!
word!
Merci pour cette vidéo très précieuse...j' étais perdu, là je vois beaucoup mieux le model qu il me faut
You're Welcome!
It’s mind blowing how comprehensive this comparison is. 🤯 Wonder how long it took you to obtain all the data. Waiting for my MM M4 Pro to arrive.
Wow... just wow. the best review for Mac mini and application usage I've ever seen. Amazing job. First time I've seen your video. The best bar none.
Thank You!
This is an absolute ton of testing and exactly what I was looking for as well, thank you for putting in that work and giving us an incredibly comprehensive comparison.
Thank you!
this guy finally shows how other youtubers should do, great job!
Thank you!
Only 10 minutes in, but I can say already this is already a super helpful comprehensive video. Thanks ! Subbed.
Thank You!
Insane stats and analysis. Solved my confusion in an instant
Thank You!
Thanks for doing such an exhaustive look at such a wide range of systems - really helps see where you'll benefit for spending more, and where you won't. Other than a few odd results (the base M1/M2/M3 being fastest on the Pano stitch, oddly slow time for 14" M2M on the LrC Export), I can't see much to question in your testing, and nobody else is doing anything like this comprehensive.
You've both given me reasons to want to upgrade from my M1 Pro 32GB/2TB 14", and reasons not to (or to look at configs I never would have considered) - no small feat! Thanks for all the great work!
There's a bug in Pano merge on the software. And Thank you!
From this day forward, I will always watch your videos whenever there new mac releases, macs are really go to machine for creatives like photographers and videographers.
Thank you!
ton of thanks to this legend from the communities all over the world
Thank you!
I was waiting for your detailed technical analysis review and Mac Mini tests
Thank you!
Great video, thank you! Does the M4 Pro routinely spin up for tasks, or is it really only at peak difficulty tasks where you'll hear it going?
peak to dissipate heat
This video definitely clarified which direction I need to go… Thanks!
Thank you!
you're the only Mac review I trusted. your work is comprehensive and amazing.
Yay! Thank you!
Thanks - this only confirms my choices and reasoning based upon my work and analysis of the leaked benchmarks. Amazing compliments you will receive for sharing this with us.
Thank you!
As always this is the best review comparison for creators on youtube! I went with the mac mini m4 pro. So far very impressed but the fan noise is a bit of a downer. Hope that I rarely really need the full perfomance of the chip.
I hear you
I bought Mac Studio M2 Max few weeks ago and it's very powerful for Logic, Adobe Premiere and etc... Thank you for the review.
You're welcome!
Welcome back! It’s so nice to see you post this video. 👍🏽
Thank you!! 😊
Very nice! Is there a plan to add M4 Max into this? I’m considering a 16” M4 Max, but holding out to see reviews and how it stacks up over M4 Pro.
That video should be release tomorrow, tuesday or Wednesday at the latest, I have a few in queue.
Excellent video! Could you elaborate on the thermal performance differences between the machines, especially under heavy workloads? I'm concerned about noise levels.
MM M4 is relatively quite, very light hum, MM M4 Pro can get relative loud compared to M4 and MS M2M along with the Ultra is mostly quiet.
Great stuff here, Art. I appreciate you adding in some of the new Lightroom Classic tests.
Thank you!
Thank you so much! Was looking for real world data on photo processing between M4 and M4 Pro!!
Thank you!
Yo my friend... The greatest comparison video in the MAC MINI Universe...so far GREAT VIDEO , subscribing !
Thanks for the sub!
Professional presentation! Can't wait for your future vids especially the nano-texture!
Thank you!
bro you just did everything you can do in any mac :) appreciate the work ❤❤
I appreciate that!
Amazing video. I've been waiting for this for a very long time...
Thank you!
PHENOMENAL analysis, thank you! Interesting to see how my 16”MBP M1M 64GB 8TB still is right up there in terms of performance for many of the tasks that I do daily (Lightroom Classic import/export, denoise, ai masks…etc). I’m really looking forward to your future video on the M4 Max machines. The Max SoCs are really the way to go for Pro users so you get the huge boost in GPU cores, memory bandwidth…
yes but the just realized, especially in the laptop that they are much closer that we think ;) video coming this week with data on these.
This is my new go to channel, bored of constant clickbait on another certain channel
Thank you!
Please tell you friends too!
Art, you did it again. Perfect, practical test for us photographers and videographers. Thank you.
Thank you! my friend! I'll see you sometime next year!
@@ArtIsRight Looking forward to catching up. Rock on my friend.
Great to hear your opinion about the m4 family! looking forwards to the M4 max one to get a full picture.
I just have a question as a not even one video per week user with LR and FCP, if I don't need to save time in pro workflow, I am interested in the comparison between M1 Pro and m4, to me it seems this generation of m4 is already similar to the M1 Pro right?
ua-cam.com/play/PLjlr8rlxl_q4aVEJ3WD5lXBZJoEe_t_hS.html
Wow, lots of testing, Art! My mind is about to explode but this gave me the information I need. I think a base.Mac Mini M4 Pro with a 1TB SSD is in my future. Thanks, great job.
Thank you!
Yet again, you've told me exactly what I need to know. Thank you Art!
Thank you!
Thanks for this. I am about to finally move from an Intel machine and this was what I needed.
Nice!
Thanks Art based on your results I just ordered a MM M4P with 14‑core CPU, 20‑core GPU 64GB RAM This will replace my aging M1 Studio Ultra.
What specs is your ultra?
@ Apple M1 Ultra 48-core 64GB memory. When I get the new mini I Will do some comparisons basically testing out things I do frequently in LRC. If it’s no faster I will just send it back to Apple
it will come close and surpass it in some task but it won't necessary be the all around winner.
@@ArtIsRight well if that’s the case I’ll just send it back to Apple.
Great video, just liked and subscribed too as the depth and detail in top tier and well beyond what many multiple if not 10s of people channels outputs and all done as a 1 person. Wow. You should be proud of what you are doing and have achieved.
Thank you!
I bought the 256GB Mac Mini and attached a 4TB external NVME SSD. Works great.
Which SSD and enclosure? Also the speeds ?
nice
Thank you Art for this comprehensive testing video!! Greetings from The Netherlands 🇳🇱
My pleasure!
I appreciate your comparisons and likely best use for each upgrade configuration. I was ready to get the M4 Pro spec'd for photo work but opted to wait for an upcoming Studio due to the Mini's fan revving up and audible.
:)
I am very excited how the figures will be with M4Max SoC😊
My workflow contains a lot of panoramas and I am thrilled to see your results tomorrow ❤
Thank you!
Amazing stuff. How is performance vs noise if you run the MacMini M4 Pro in its energy saving mode?
good point, I should test that.
Amazing detailed video!
Thank you!
thank you I was waiting for this video to drop!
Thank you!
this the benchmark for reviews! Thank you
Thank You!
Artisright cracking the nut for good once again!
Thank You!
Thanks Art, good to see you. While the Pro is very good, one point not brought up is as soon as you start upgrading it to the higher chip, SSD, and maybe Ram, you are very close to the Max Studio base price, and the M2 Max is a terrible buy as it’s soon to be replaced. Take the last gen that had comparable specs between the Mini Pro and Max Studio, the pro was a horrible value unless you kept it base. I predict the same to happen here between March and June when the new Studios come out. A used M2 Studio could be worth a look though.
there's still some delta especially for the laptop, a few video is coming this week that will go over just that
Yoo you back
I'm back!
Absolutely the best. There are the” day to day” tests that I need but everyone else is doing synthetic comparisons that doesn’t tell me a jack shit about how fast my pano from 10 A7R images will be merged or how fast the AI fill will work in LR.
Thank you!
Most valuable reviews for photographers!
Thank you!
very detailed - you have the whole spread of results!
I do!
Thank you for that profund Review. Was considering to switch from my Windows PC to a M4P and I'm really surprised that the Lightroom Denoise for a D810 file on the M4P takes 29 sec. On my i5-6600k with a Nvidia 4060 it takes 24 seconds. Thank's again, 1649€ saved
platform and what you are used to is more important
A beacon of clarity in a sea of BS "reviews." Thanks Art for all the in-depth research and solid advice.
although, I think I need a click baity title to get more views ;)
this the most useful video when you doing purchase decision in practice, amazing work, thank you!
Great to hear!
Your testing is well appreciated. So thorough.
Thank you!
Always waiting for you to have the last word if it’s worth or not. Thank you for the effort!
Will probably go with the M4P 48gb/1tb, currently on the M1/16gb/256 and to often run out of memory
Totally!
Wow! More than review this is a MASTER CLASS!
Any consideration about one or 10Gb network? I want to keep the new mini for at least four years. No other computer in a network in my home.
If you are going set that up for your home then yes!
@@ArtIsRight Thank you!!! I just sent some love to your top jar. Just ordered a MM4pro 24GB/1TB/10Gb Network. Again, THANK YOU!
+1 for the effort and depth of this breakdown. Thank you!
Thank you!
You are the man! Best testing of these machines by far.
Thank you!
This is a really good review, thank you for your effort. Based on my use and budget, I’ve gone with the M4 Mini Pro (base option) as I’m upgrading from the M1 Mini 16GB 512GB. I’m using LR with 3rd party noise reduction, Audicity for audio podcasts editing, and Final Cut for video editing. To get the base Mac Studio M2 Ultra is $800 more Cdn. At this point, M4 Mini or Mini Pro is so much better than the M1 that I have, that it’s going to help quite a bit, especially now that I’m getting into astrophotography which is has to stack hundreds to thousands of files to make one image (star alignment, image processing for imperfections). Glad to see that the middle of the road performance vs the top Core computers is still pretty good! The Mac Studio M2 Ultra base in Canada is $5500!
I hear you and great choice
The video I’ve been waiting for to help make my purchase
Thank you!
great analysis! helped me make a solid decision
Thank you!
Amazingly detailed analysis.
Thank you!
Awesome and very informative video mate, appreciate it!
Thank you!
when will get Macbook Pro - M4 Pro chip review video?
Tomorrow, he says it in the video
already out ua-cam.com/play/PLjlr8rlxl_q4aVEJ3WD5lXBZJoEe_t_hS.html
Great work. Please add the Mac Mini M4 Pro 14/20 when you can.
looking for someone to send me a loaner
Your videos are the best, such in-depth analysis which is way better than all the lame tech influencers.
Wow, thanks!
Is it worth upgrading to the M4 Pro 14/20 and 48gb ram?
I say that 28GB RAM is but as far as Silicon upgrade, it is really up to you
nice review! I want M4P right away 😁
nice!
When do you release the M4 Max Video, Sir? Can't wait
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Great video. Did you consider the MM M4 Max in your tests? Thanks
there's no MM M4Max
@@ArtIsRightApologies, my mistake. I must have been thinking about the MacBook.