The BBC should have no political slant. They should report factual news without any 'opinion' applied. Why should anyone be required to pay to have ideologies and agendas forced on them?
Exactly, and that's my biggest issue with them - rename them the world broadcasting corp as they dont promote the thoughts of the British who pay for their deluded views !
@@the_once-and-future_king. They are very much like Disney these days in more ways than one which is why it's no surprise they are working together now on such masterpieces as Disney Doctor Who (RIP Doctor Who)
The problem is that they thing their left wing bias is centrism. They think it's perfectly unbiased to not give people like Tommy Robinson a chance to speak. And because the Overton window is so far to the left, a lot of people agree with this.
I can lend you my wonderful wife to tell the licencing people to go away. I had told them multiple times we didn't need a license. Then another letter turned up. My wife 🤬💥 got on the phone and politely responded to them. She told them that I, her husband was very sick and these letters and threats didn't help me. Not a brown envelope since.😂
The licence fee is a very expensive luxury these days considering the poor quality of the programmes and biased news reporting. The BBC model is no longer fit for purpose in the digital age.
@@elwynj5379cheap as chips ? £170 a year to watch non bbc tv , as someone else commented it’s like paying Asda £170 a year for the privilege of shopping at aldi or Lidl
Funny how I have never seen, Reps from other broadcasters demanding £'s because they broadcast. Only a matter of time before they could be asking for funds for having a front door or paying Royal mail for a letterbox tax. 😅 infinite possibility in an infinite universe with all possibilities not beyond being true. Revenue & cash for a select few. In the mis belief that it is there right to demand it. I've never been into propaganda. Especially when it makes rich people richer. It is better to watch the ultimate entertainment ! Life itself. Just an option!! It's not a statement of fact. As Albert Einstein once stated. "There only two things that are infinite, one being the Universe and the other is humans stupidity, and I am not sure about the prior." (A. Einstein-1879 -1955).
That’s right, in order to watch sky tv you need to pay BBC first, effectively double charged…for fuck sake…absolutely nonsense for subscribing an unwanted service, adding burden to us and have our free press taken away, too as we can’t have the updates on the country and the world as a whole
Don't pay it then pretty simple really, as I've never had one, just make sure you have no conscriptions like netflix etc. Pay with cash for a TV leave no evidence.
@@ruledtrendy5066 You don't get it. It's a licence to watch TV because otherwise it would be illegal. What if you only want to watch ITV? You still have to pay the BBC or else it's illegal to watch ITV.
I wouldn't mine the licence fee so much if the BBC were totally impartial, as they are supposed to be, and if they didn't give massive salaries to some presenters.
YOU NEED EDF TO WATCH HALF AN HOUR IF AMERICAN TV, ITS LIKE PULLING YOUR TEETH OUT ALL AT ONCE, THE BBC IS GREAT ITS THE TORIES WHO RUNNIN IT AND THE RENT BOYS THEY USE
@@emuu6232If you cancel it properly on their website you don’t get harassed. They just sent an email every 4 to 5 years or so and you confirm again you don’t want to watch tv. Been licence free over 8 years.
We DON'T have a T.V. Licence. We don't wish to fund the B.B.C. We are law-abiding and so cannot, therefore, watch any other channels live as they are being broadcast. We MAY wish to, however. Therefore, we would like to see the Licence abolished in order to give us choice AND out of fairness to other channels who are unfairly losing viewers such as ourselves.
I'm not too sure whether the BBC is bothered about the other channels losing viewers because of the TV licensing rules. There are suggestions that we will end up paying for the BBC through a hiked Council Tax whether we watch live broadcast TV (and bbc iplayer) or not. Imagine having no choice other than to pay for the propaganda and awful programmes that the BBC churns out!
@@oxforddon2210 I'm sure that the B.B.C. is not in the least bothered about anyone other than itself. Certainly, the idea of our funding this awful broadcaster through any generic taxation is even worse than the Licence which we can, at least, not pay. My first choice (for what it is worth) would be that the B.B.C. folds. My second/third choice is that they fund themselves by advertising and/or subscription. (When in an hotel, we do occasionally tune to the B.B.C. just to remind ourselves why we don't buy a Licence. This generally lasts all of two minutes!!)
If the US can have a national TV service for 350 million people without forcing the viewers to pay a license fee, why can't UK pull it off for 67 million people.
@@jacquilayton2557 What about people who want to watch other channels, and do not want to watch the biased woke BBC ? They still have to pay for a tv licence even though they don't watch the BBC, and still have to sit through 30 mins of adverts every hour, and as a result are paying twice, once with the licence and a second by having to watch adverts anyway ? Would it just be much fairer for the BBC to show adverts and scrap the daft licence, I think so. The BBC makes plenty of money selling it's 'products' worldwide, by using the alter ego of BBC studios. They seem to have their cake AND eat it.
If I wear Adidas and shun Nike, Nike should not get my money. It doesn't matter what channel I watch, if it is not part of the BBC and I rigerously shun any BBC service, BBC should not get my money. If the BBC is so insistent on maintaining the TV licence, then they should stop being a private corporation and go back to being 100% state owned and have their services reduced to only essentials, such as maintaining the Emergency Broadcast infrastructure, nothing else. If the BBC wants to be a private corporation and produce "entertainment" (or whatever it is they call the trash they produce these days), they need to find their funding with subscription models or advertisement.
BBC: We offer fantastic value for money and people are happy to pay. Public: Great! Go Subscription Service and leave those of us who don't want to watch the BBC alone! BBC: We can't do that, no-one would pay.
Forcing people to pay for an entertainment product they have no interest in, is just unacceptable. Sending those who choose other entertainment providers threatening letters is obscene. It must end.
@manchegocheese997 many people aren't fully aware of the rules and feel under duress to buy something they don't need. Particularly older people who are further compelled by threatening letters and are under a historic idea that just owning a tv requires a license.
I haven't watched the BBC or much of any UK stations for many years, mainly because of pure poor quality content and msm bias. This should be a subscription service imo.
How would Kier Starmer and Lisa Nandy feel if 100% of the tv licence fee went to a television company that did not unconditionally supported the Labour party, for example GB News?
If we have a national broadcaster, funded by the taxpayer, it should not be spewing out left wing views, constantly. I object to being fined, for that’s what it is, to finance such a biased, twisted organisation. There, absolutely, has to be some kind of opting out available, to those of us who despise the BBC.
We have a state broadcaster funded by a TV License tax that spews communist fascist views, constantly. Scrapping that tax that people CAN get out of, means they want to tax everyone and the BBC’s budget will rise exponentially as their buddies in power try to keep brainwashing the muppets in our society and around the world 🏴🇬🇧🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
There is. If you look at the terms on their website. You don't need a licence if you don't watch live broadcast TV or access the iPlayer. Alternatively, get rid of the TV.
It wouldn't surprise me if this government doesn't allow us to opt out. They see it as acceptable If they can gain an advantage from something that is morally wrong.
I remember a couple of years ago the TV licence letter even tried to claim that watching a livestream on UA-cam counted, even if the stream was coming from another country. I thought that was a bit of a stretch of logic there even for them
It always annoyed me in the music industry. You'd buy a vinyl 45, then buy a vinyl LP with the same track, then buy a Cassette, then a CD, then a download. Each time You'd pay full price for the music and the medium but you'd already paid the copyright it was just new format to play on the latest kit or in your car. Why do you have to pay the copyright for the same recording multiple times.
TV licencing uptake is right on the tipping point where it is becoming unsustainable to enforce those ignoring it. How many letters are they sending out every month that go straight in the bin? How much does that cost them? By 2026 it will become plainly obvious that the ONLY way it can survive is to move to a subscription model.
@@rogerkay8603 You do understand that watching UA-cam doesn't involve live broadcasts from defined broadcasters. An individual streaming an interview or a history presentation, etc... is not considered a 'live broadcast'.
Should people running this country have to obtain a license, I think a high percentage would or could not qualify, as an engineer I have to sit theory exams and do practical tests to obtain a license maybe it's time to update our system to test our MP's and remove those that fail. No interview required, no qualifications required, very disturbing.
They book a court room in areas all over and do block cases, if the person fails to turn up or pleads guilty just a procedure, so worth going, my mate baffled the magistrates on what he could n couldn't watch and how the tv goon acted during the procedure. Cos he was connected didn't mean he watched live tv, legal to have the equipment. I have virgin for the catch up and on demand and Internet all legal without a tv license
They may well have been had they not agreed to push Boris's Covid narrative. There shall be further, future narratives from Government too. The B.B.C. are too useful.
As a pensioner I have to be careful; with my money. I choose what I eat, I choose how much I heat. I do not choose to watch any live TV etc. and therefore save the £164 whatever to spend say, on clothes. If the Licence fee is abolished and comes under 'General taxation', I shall be paying for something I do not want and I do not consume. How unfair is that ?
Bbc is dead and has lost all respect down to their constant lies and attempts to silence their critics while charging vulnerable people for not paying their extortion fees
Turn it into a subscription charge, if you want it, you pay for it, if you don't want it, don't pay for it......... it is an outdated system that needs bringing up to date....
If the BBC genuinely believed that it would survive/prosper with a subscription model of funding rather than a licence model it would happily adopt the subscription model.
Please can we understand that broadcasting is not the same technology as data packet-streaming. I wish BBB would stop using the term 'broadcast' when talking about online viewing.
imagine being forced to pay for propaganda and lies ... i mean just imagine that! we live in the uk where our news is totally un-bais and everyone is treated equally. /s
Sweden has replaced the TV licence with a tax that everyone have to pay. It doesn't matter if you watch TV or listen to radio at all. If you have a taxable income you have to pay. I wouldn't consider that an improvement.
Crapita, who run the BBC licence scheme, essentially accuse anyone who says they have no licence as a liar. Their latest letter to me says that while I can go to their website and make a declaration that I don't need a licence, but they will still want to make a "quick check" to confirm. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
Never contact capita/BBC to tell them you dont need a licence!!! This authorises them to keep your details. Simply cancel your direct debit, thats it!!!!!
@@robtheplod That's what I did, ignored them, but they send me a letter every couple of weeks and have sent an "investigator" round once. I don't have a TV, and don't want one either.
The licence fee has to be scrapped. The BBC being the sole beneficiary is wrong. The BBC wastes money, does not provide quality programs and of the four main channels two don't operate until 7pm. It pays presenters like the awful linneaker an obscene amount of money for what? It has produced the disgusting Saville and Edwards to name a couple and worst of all knew what was going on and did nothing. We are not in the 30's anymore when there was a need to fund broadcasting via TV licencing. Scrap the licence and if the appalling BBC is to continue it should fund itself.
Licence and License - Licence is the noun: We bought a TV licence. License is the verb: We are licensed to use the TV. We have a licence from TV Licensing. I have a driving licence. I am licensed to drive. I got it from Vehicle Licensing, who issue the licences.
Quite a few years ago I went to a Question Time recording and Billy Cotton Jnr was doing a kind of warm up talking about the licence fee. I had to agree to his arguments then that if the BBC went to advertising the ITV and Channel 4 (was no 5) would have to compete on price and everyone would start to lose out. However, with so many channels now accepting low-cost advertising, that has happened and ITV is as rubbish as everything else. So 'Cry havoc and let loose the dogs of war.' Let them all fight for it.
Americans find the UK TV license odd because it's mandatory, even for those who don't watch BBC content. Unlike in the U.S., where people pay only for services they choose, the TV license feels restrictive. Enforcement with fines or jail also seems excessive, and many see it as outdated in a world dominated by streaming. Public broadcasting in the U.S. relies on donations, not mandatory fees, which better aligns with consumer freedom.
I want to see the BBC go to another country and set up capita to obtain more from there country population. I really want to see what happens. the stupid people who Pay for the TV licence, Pay for TV shows that earn money in other countries yet the profits from these shows go into some one else pocket
I think if the BBC didn't rely on intimidation tactics for the licensing fee and didn't do things like support past, present and future Jimmy Savilles, people might not reject the license as much as they do. As for myself, I just don't watch live TV or anything BBC.
Today the “licence fee” is a grossly distortion of competition in favour of a single broadcaster. Why does none of the revenue got to other free to air services? The BBC has a massive legacy of intellectual property that can be licensed by to broadcasters. Time to abolish the licence fee and make the BBC self fund itself commercially.
The licence fee and the way live over the air TV content is transmitted is archaic and unnecessary. We live in a modern world and should be able to watch content when we want and in many cases pay for that privilege. The BBC should fund itself via selling content through subscription. The unwarranted tax is a detriment to the poorer end of the pay scale such as pensioners, students and so on. The fact that you can be fined a lot of moeny (and in the past jailed)for not having a TV licence while watching live broadcasts, which again affect the poor and vulnerable, is abhorrent as being jailed for 2 years for a tweet on X! Modern living, who would believe Orwell predicted this!
We in AUS got rid of that stupid Licence Fee system back in the 1960's Totally bureaucratic and unnecessary; our ABC is just funded out of general govt revenue. They do a fair bit of marketing too, and sell a lot of your stuff as well as their own !
I don't possess a TV and have no interest in watching that rubbish, nor am I interested in the 90% of the news which is about the petty squabbles of celebrities I've never watched in programmes I've never heard of rather than real events about which if they do report them they are lying anyway. Why should I pay for a service I don't want or use? Why is there an assumption that everybody watches television? We're not all morons.
I have not had a licence for years now, and I always make sure that I make this declaration online as soon as I receive an email from the BBC to confirm that I still do not need one. So far I have never been bothered by anyone knocking at my door.
Had a letter arrive saying I have a 10 window or they’ll be visiting… it was a great relief because I had just ran out of toilet paper and needed a shit so the letter was very helpful
You will be amazed at how complicated crooked the BBC is. Where do you think all old programs have been sold, the off shoots of the BBC. Franchise the BBC out or sell it after you have sold all the buildings.
As I understood it, the Post Office was given a monopoly (and thereby control) over Post, then telegraph, then telephone, then radio and finally TV. All involve information going from one premises to another.
Worth noting that when the House of Lords explored alternatives to the TV Licence Fee, they were against general taxation. However, they were supportive of a household levy on council tax. This would allow for discounts to be applied, such as single occupancy and those with SMIs. The collection and enforcement of it would also be covered by the existing council tax system. I believe they were also broadly supportive of a levy on broadband, though that had more issues/concerns. Replying on advertising is a non-starter, as it would be strongly opposed by all commercial TV channels. Subscription was also ruled out, not least as the government likes a bit of soft power, which the BBC brings particularly via the World Service.
Lords report: committees.parliament.uk/publications/23091/documents/169130/default/ Chapter 4 (paragraph 88) lists European countries that have abolished the licence fee, and states what it has been replaced with. Paragraphs 131 to 136 cover the household levy alternative. Hopefully, the current Labour government will take note of this report when making its decisions.
I'm glad yo brought this up again. Here in the U.S., so far as I know, we don't have a license fee. If you want to watch T.V., your choices are analog (antenna), cable or internet (streaming). With cable, you pay for it - cable companies are privately held companies. For internet, you pay your internet access fee and connect to any number of free streaming services or pay for subscriptions to companies like HBO or Amazon Prime. Live sports is rare unless you pay for it. I've been listening to you talk about licensing fees in the U.K. and am totally confused. We have PBS (Public Broadcast Service) TV (telly?) and radio - but it is subsidized via the Federal Government and donations - they get a lot of donations and couldn't survive on what they get from Federal Government. We do get BBC programs here in the U.S. but I've gotten a bit afraid to watch them. I didn't pay for BBC programs. Does that mean 007 is going to come bust in my door, arrest me and toss me in to prison? If I visit your country and watch a video on my phone, will I get thrown in to prison? Will I have to drain my savings account and pay the U.K. in order to get out of prison? A bit tongue-in-cheek but you catch my drift.
I gave up my licence a few months ago, I don't watch the BBC, i player C4 or any live shows/ programs of any sort on ANY channel the BBC are a national disgrace and are so biased and away with the faries. It's an institution that needs defending.
The system is very fair to those that understand this; If you do not engage with goons they are powerless and thus you never have to pay the licence fee.
I will be furious if they added it to council tax, if it's added to employee tax then that doesn't affect me. So far they've just mentioned "general taxation", I don't understand what is meant by that?
I wouldn't care so much if it was just for BBC stuff rather than all live channels like it should be, but they know they'll fail instantly that way because they are shit.
If you think about the big picture the cost per year isn't terrible if it was just for access to all the BBC stuff without any adverts, it's all the forceful ness of it trying to cover things it shouldn't etc that puts people off more.
Both myself and my neighbour had a combined harassment of about 3 years even though we each HAD a license then. We kept phoning, BBC Licensing kept agreeing that they had our licenses registered....but still the threats kept coming.
The BBC overseas services carry advertisements.. If they broadcast here you get something that plays over said advertisements so you don't see them here. If they did show them here it would give the game away so they have to ghost them .If you see BBC world news, they will have musical interludes. That is when overseas viewers are receiving ads. It's a complete con.
It all went tits up went the BBC became so darn political and woke. From that moment on, when they lost the support of the general public, it turned to a shower of sh.... I do not agree with it being a criminal act not to have one, that needs to be immediately addressed and cancelled as that is grossly wrong and they should not have been allowed to stop it for pensioners either!
I'm getting sick of them sending letters. I told them we don't watch live TV and now they just keep sending them it's harrassment. Is there a way to completely stop them?
im time served city and guilds fabricator welder they want contractors to have a scats card..health and safety ticket is probably around £400 for 2 years now..even though every time you enter a site you have a health and safety induction..penny pinching is everywhere if they could charge you for walking and breathing they would
I really used to like the idea of the BBC when it was impartial. Sometimes it's easy to forget the benefits. In the USA for example, if there was a guest that talked about subjects an advertiser didn't like they would threaten to withdraw their sponsorship if the guest was allowed to say certain things. I've just realised, that's a bit like UA-cam. It's great that's it's free but a lot of opinions are not allowed. If you want to hear free opinions you have to pay for it. The BBC in it's current state doesn't deserve any money though
The Licence tax is the equivalent of being forced to give ASDA £170 a year just so you can shop at ALDI, or Sainsburys. Absolutely unnecessary tax.
Don't give em ideas
Great analogy!
@@debbiemcgowan7447same comment said 10 mins before this one 😅
What a silly comment
@@duviworthing or £170 for a license for your use of the Internet. Stupid comment now is it.
The BBC should have no political slant. They should report factual news without any 'opinion' applied. Why should anyone be required to pay to have ideologies and agendas forced on them?
well said
Exactly, and that's my biggest issue with them - rename them the world broadcasting corp as they dont promote the thoughts of the British who pay for their deluded views !
@@the_once-and-future_king. They are very much like Disney these days in more ways than one which is why it's no surprise they are working together now on such masterpieces as Disney Doctor Who (RIP Doctor Who)
The problem is that they thing their left wing bias is centrism. They think it's perfectly unbiased to not give people like Tommy Robinson a chance to speak. And because the Overton window is so far to the left, a lot of people agree with this.
The BBC is supposed to be impartial
Its not a TV licence, its a protection racket, you pay the money so you dont get menaced.
if you do not pay the DOM the Mafia gang will send the boys around to collect it.
I can lend you my wonderful wife to tell the licencing people to go away. I had told them multiple times we didn't need a license. Then another letter turned up. My wife 🤬💥 got on the phone and politely responded to them. She told them that I, her husband was very sick and these letters and threats didn't help me. Not a brown envelope since.😂
They don’t menace me.
Well said. It's Gangster Economics.
The licence fee is a very expensive luxury these days considering the poor quality of the programmes and biased news reporting. The BBC model is no longer fit for purpose in the digital age.
Rubbish it’s as cheap as chips….. now biased beeb is a separate issue.
@ Maybe for you but not for a pensioner.
@ I am one, 41 years in the NHScammers!!
@@elwynj5379cheap as chips ? £170 a year to watch non bbc tv , as someone else commented it’s like paying Asda £170 a year for the privilege of shopping at aldi or Lidl
Funny how I have never seen, Reps from other broadcasters demanding £'s because they broadcast. Only a matter of time before they could be asking for funds for having a front door or paying Royal mail for a letterbox tax. 😅 infinite possibility in an infinite universe with all possibilities not beyond being true. Revenue & cash for a select few. In the mis belief that it is there right to demand it. I've never been into propaganda. Especially when it makes rich people richer. It is better to watch the ultimate entertainment ! Life itself. Just an option!! It's not a statement of fact. As Albert Einstein once stated. "There only two things that are infinite, one being the Universe and the other is humans stupidity, and I am not sure about the prior." (A. Einstein-1879 -1955).
It's a bit like having to pay Asda for the privilege of shopping at Aldi - a ludicrous tax.
That’s right, in order to watch sky tv you need to pay BBC first, effectively double charged…for fuck sake…absolutely nonsense for subscribing an unwanted service, adding burden to us and have our free press taken away, too as we can’t have the updates on the country and the world as a whole
It's a State TV!?!
Someone stole your comment 😂
@@seanstewart8942And it's got more likes in less time.
@@TomTomicMicNot directly state owned, no.
Bring forced to pay for crap that nobody wants and those in charge are taking the piss?
Don't pay it then pretty simple really, as I've never had one, just make sure you have no conscriptions like netflix etc. Pay with cash for a TV leave no evidence.
Don't need a licence to watch netflix, unless it's something live. @@nozyparker
You don't have to pay the BBC if you don't watch it
@@ruledtrendy5066 You don't get it. It's a licence to watch TV because otherwise it would be illegal. What if you only want to watch ITV? You still have to pay the BBC or else it's illegal to watch ITV.
@@wayland7150 that makes no sensetbh but I believe ya haha
I think the license fee is an archaic abuse of power.
Licence*
I wouldn't mine the licence fee so much if the BBC were totally impartial, as they are supposed to be, and if they didn't give massive salaries to some presenters.
Never had a TV licence in my life, the letters go straight in the bin, simply don't open the door and don't engage.
Its a Propaganda machine.
It's paid by leftist propagandists.
Hardly, it's just crap.
@invisiblekid99 of course it is. It's a leftist propaganda machine
@invisiblekid99 It's both.
YOU NEED EDF TO WATCH HALF AN HOUR IF AMERICAN TV, ITS LIKE PULLING YOUR TEETH OUT ALL AT ONCE, THE BBC IS GREAT ITS THE TORIES WHO RUNNIN IT AND THE RENT BOYS THEY USE
35 years and counting tv license free
your beating my18 years .
I've not had a licence in my life, perfectly legally. I don't own a TV
Good going. I'm on about 25y myself.
how have you dealt with the harassment letters and threats of enforcement teams coming?
@@emuu6232If you cancel it properly on their website you don’t get harassed. They just sent an email every 4 to 5 years or so and you confirm again you don’t want to watch tv. Been licence free over 8 years.
We DON'T have a T.V. Licence. We don't wish to fund the B.B.C. We are law-abiding and so cannot, therefore, watch any other channels live as they are being broadcast. We MAY wish to, however. Therefore, we would like to see the Licence abolished in order to give us choice AND out of fairness to other channels who are unfairly losing viewers such as ourselves.
I'm not too sure whether the BBC is bothered about the other channels losing viewers because of the TV licensing rules. There are suggestions that we will end up paying for the BBC through a hiked Council Tax whether we watch live broadcast TV (and bbc iplayer) or not. Imagine having no choice other than to pay for the propaganda and awful programmes that the BBC churns out!
@@oxforddon2210 I'm sure that the B.B.C. is not in the least bothered about anyone other than itself. Certainly, the idea of our funding this awful broadcaster through any generic taxation is even worse than the Licence which we can, at least, not pay. My first choice (for what it is worth) would be that the B.B.C. folds. My second/third choice is that they fund themselves by advertising and/or subscription. (When in an hotel, we do occasionally tune to the B.B.C. just to remind ourselves why we don't buy a Licence. This generally lasts all of two minutes!!)
Same here
Not all TV is free in the US. Some of us have to pay for cable. We can pay 125.00 a month and we still have three advertisers shown every 15 minutes.
I have been licence-free for nearly four years and my position is similar to yours. I will never give the BBC a penny again.
If the US can have a national TV service for 350 million people without forcing the viewers to pay a license fee, why can't UK pull it off for 67 million people.
It's just an old set up that needs to go
Is the US national service free from advertising?
The answer is pretty simple....US TV stations generate revenue through advertising, which TECHNICALLY the BBC doesn't do.
@@jacquilayton2557 What about people who want to watch other channels, and do not want to watch the biased woke BBC ?
They still have to pay for a tv licence even though they don't watch the BBC, and still have to sit through 30 mins of adverts every hour, and as a result are paying twice, once with the licence and a second by having to watch adverts anyway ?
Would it just be much fairer for the BBC to show adverts and scrap the daft licence, I think so.
The BBC makes plenty of money selling it's 'products' worldwide, by using the alter ego of BBC studios. They seem to have their cake AND eat it.
Adverts every five minutes. Advertisers breing able to control programme content. No thanks
If I wear Adidas and shun Nike, Nike should not get my money. It doesn't matter what channel I watch, if it is not part of the BBC and I rigerously shun any BBC service, BBC should not get my money. If the BBC is so insistent on maintaining the TV licence, then they should stop being a private corporation and go back to being 100% state owned and have their services reduced to only essentials, such as maintaining the Emergency Broadcast infrastructure, nothing else. If the BBC wants to be a private corporation and produce "entertainment" (or whatever it is they call the trash they produce these days), they need to find their funding with subscription models or advertisement.
For 4 years now I've had the same loop of threatening letters from TV licensing, ignored all, never had a knock.
8 years worth of letters never a knock
Yes their investigations are all fake.... just ignore them!
5 years 30 plus threatograms and three visits who all went off tail between their legs 😂
ten yrs never missed it
Lucky you. We've had 2 sales goons call since December, and the first one went away after HE said we didn't need a licence.
BBC: We offer fantastic value for money and people are happy to pay.
Public: Great! Go Subscription Service and leave those of us who don't want to watch the BBC alone!
BBC: We can't do that, no-one would pay.
I think you're wrong there as people seem quite happy to pay for Sky, Netflix, Disney, Apple etc.etc.
and that shows people would rather use them as opposed to bbc, difference is it is a choice
I keep getting the letters. They are great for lighting the log burner.
lol me to
We stopped paying the TV licence just over 12months ago and so did some of our colleagues.
Have you received the knock?
Good for you
@@frossato i have , just told them to go away , and they did !
@ianrichards4907 well done, mate!
I cancelled my TV license when they formed BBC Studios Limited to syphon off licences payers money into a private company.
BBC Studios, the company that sells the programmes around the world , that we fund, made £2090 million pounds last year!
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About 50% of what is raised by the TV licence.
@@Wee_Langside 63%
And they plough the profits back into programmes for the UK. The fact that so many broadcasters want BBC content shows the high quality it is..
@@barrieshepherd7694 Correct
Forcing people to pay for an entertainment product they have no interest in, is just unacceptable. Sending those who choose other entertainment providers threatening letters is obscene. It must end.
No one is forced.
@manchegocheese997 many people aren't fully aware of the rules and feel under duress to buy something they don't need. Particularly older people who are further compelled by threatening letters and are under a historic idea that just owning a tv requires a license.
500k people cancelled the tv licence tax last year.
500k cancelled their tv license 20 million+ just don’t pay , that’s a lot of “ love “ letters they have to send out each month !
I haven't watched the BBC or much of any UK stations for many years, mainly because of pure poor quality content and msm bias. This should be a subscription service imo.
15yrs not paid a penny and I'll never pay again.
you might if Lisa Nandy gets her way, shes looking to get BBC funding out of general taxation!!
How would Kier Starmer and Lisa Nandy feel if 100% of the tv licence fee went to a television company that did not unconditionally supported the Labour party, for example GB News?
BBC should stop the licence.. I only usually watch 1 program on there.. pensioners should not have to pay..
There would be hell to play
Talk TV is great on weekdays.
@@veronicasavage1182 Pensioners are the only people who watch TV.
@@fionagregory9147 😂 Talk Tv is news Uk literally the Sun newspaper, done your research though didn’t you 😅🫠 great is it 😂
I think the BBC should get revenue from advertising rather than subscription, like the other commercial channels
I gave up tv for 3 months to get on with other things. That was 12 years ago, I never watched it again.
Why was the license free for over 75s and then this benefit was taken away like my winter fuel allowance, our political system is broken.
Bully Boy Cartel
No that's not correct the BBC and Capita are a MAFIA GANG. who are beyond the law. untouchable
If we have a national broadcaster, funded by the taxpayer, it should not be spewing out left wing views, constantly. I object to being fined, for that’s what it is, to finance such a biased, twisted organisation. There, absolutely, has to be some kind of opting out available, to those of us who despise the BBC.
We have a state broadcaster funded by a TV License tax that spews communist fascist views, constantly.
Scrapping that tax that people CAN get out of, means they want to tax everyone and the BBC’s budget will rise exponentially as their buddies in power try to keep brainwashing the muppets in our society and around the world
🏴🇬🇧🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
You still use a TV aerial ??
There is. If you look at the terms on their website. You don't need a licence if you don't watch live broadcast TV or access the iPlayer. Alternatively, get rid of the TV.
It wouldn't surprise me if this government doesn't allow us to opt out. They see it as acceptable If they can gain an advantage from something that is morally wrong.
@ No, I use Sky Q for every channel I watch. I don’t watch anything on any BBC channel.
I remember a couple of years ago the TV licence letter even tried to claim that watching a livestream on UA-cam counted, even if the stream was coming from another country. I thought that was a bit of a stretch of logic there even for them
I think as I recall France has abolished their TV licence... but put it on council tax instead....so they still have to pay.
There’s still too many repeats on the BBC paying for something we have already paid for 🤦♂️🤦♂️
It always annoyed me in the music industry. You'd buy a vinyl 45, then buy a vinyl LP with the same track, then buy a Cassette, then a CD, then a download. Each time You'd pay full price for the music and the medium but you'd already paid the copyright it was just new format to play on the latest kit or in your car.
Why do you have to pay the copyright for the same recording multiple times.
TV licencing uptake is right on the tipping point where it is becoming unsustainable to enforce those ignoring it. How many letters are they sending out every month that go straight in the bin? How much does that cost them? By 2026 it will become plainly obvious that the ONLY way it can survive is to move to a subscription model.
When the charter is up for renewal in 2027, labour is trying to get the BBC funded out of general taxation!
No license in Spain. All channels depend on advertising as there is NO national TV network.
Televisión Española ?
As a pensioner I refused to pay the license I find much more on u tube that meets my needs, I've disconnect the Ariel, the bbc is rubbish🤮
I agree , I am a pensioner at the end of this month ! 👍☺
Yep, I decided to pay my tv license money to youtube instead.
but if you watch any form of live tv, you could be charged.......
@@rogerkay8603see Daniel’s earlier vlogs about what streaming you can watch without a licence.
@@rogerkay8603 You do understand that watching UA-cam doesn't involve live broadcasts from defined broadcasters. An individual streaming an interview or a history presentation, etc... is not considered a 'live broadcast'.
The law clearly doesn't apply to TVL, deliberately causing harassment, alarm and distress, especially to vulnerable people.
no other entity is allowed to use those tactics..
@@KemPeck1701 Apart from the Mafia!
@@gadgetman36 Spot on 😅
@@KemPeck1701Scottish gas do
@@gadgetman36 true.. but the mafia are not a legal organisation.. TVL is
Should people running this country have to obtain a license, I think a high percentage would or could not qualify, as an engineer I have to sit theory exams and do practical tests to obtain a license maybe it's time to update our system to test our MP's and remove those that fail. No interview required, no qualifications required, very disturbing.
As for the licence! Think of all the time it would free in the courts!!
there can't be that many cases that go to court
@@invisiblekid9931,000 prosecuted in 2023.
@@alexjudson9681 Really? Holy moly, that's insane.
They book a court room in areas all over and do block cases, if the person fails to turn up or pleads guilty just a procedure, so worth going, my mate baffled the magistrates on what he could n couldn't watch and how the tv goon acted during the procedure. Cos he was connected didn't mean he watched live tv, legal to have the equipment. I have virgin for the catch up and on demand and Internet all legal without a tv license
It's about time you could buy a tv/radio that couldn't tune in to the BBC.
You'd think a business with so many abusers etc and repeatedly and purposely told the public lies would be shut down
It's not a business
They may well have been had they not agreed to push Boris's Covid narrative. There shall be further, future narratives from Government too. The B.B.C. are too useful.
@@mattwoodford1820corporation
@@mattwoodford1820 they sell the rights to some of their shows in other countries ...is that not classed as a business or am i missing something?
A business yes but a corporation, no.
As a pensioner I have to be careful; with my money. I choose what I eat, I choose how much I heat. I do not choose to watch any live TV etc. and therefore save the £164 whatever to spend say, on clothes. If the Licence fee is abolished and comes under 'General taxation', I shall be paying for something I do not want and I do not consume. How unfair is that ?
You already pay tax to support schools, for example so is thaty unfair as well?
@daddad8707 if the Government continues down the path of indoctrinating children into LGBT+ and Woke ideals, then yes I would say it's unfair
There's a TV Licence advert with Jimmy Savile where he rips the letter to shreds!
Jimmy don’t take no sh!t
I have not paid for or watched a tv for over 11 years, when I see it in other folks homes I am shocked by the "new" stuff on tv, so gaudy and gruesome
The masked singer?
What a load of crap.
Why is it not subsidized by selling advertising like a normal broadcaster does?
it is on their other channels like gold channel 4 etc
they dont need to.... silly people keep paying their licence each month. Why would they give that up?
Bbc is dead and has lost all respect down to their constant lies and attempts to silence their critics while charging vulnerable people for not paying their extortion fees
Our government will try and charge for the fresh air you breathe soon and the public will do Fk all 🤦♂️
Quite so! Some are still wearing face nappies in Tesco's.
They do, but they disguise them as 'green' taxes.
Total recall 😂
Carbon tax?
Fresh‽‽‽
Turn it into a subscription charge, if you want it, you pay for it, if you don't want it, don't pay for it......... it is an outdated system that needs bringing up to date....
If the BBC genuinely believed that it would survive/prosper with a subscription model of funding rather than a licence model it would happily adopt the subscription model.
Please can we understand that broadcasting is not the same technology as data packet-streaming.
I wish BBB would stop using the term 'broadcast' when talking about online viewing.
imagine being forced to pay for propaganda and lies ... i mean just imagine that! we live in the uk where our news is totally un-bais and everyone is treated equally. /s
Sweden has replaced the TV licence with a tax that everyone have to pay. It doesn't matter if you watch TV or listen to radio at all. If you have a taxable income you have to pay. I wouldn't consider that an improvement.
Crapita, who run the BBC licence scheme, essentially accuse anyone who says they have no licence as a liar. Their latest letter to me says that while I can go to their website and make a declaration that I don't need a licence, but they will still want to make a "quick check" to confirm. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
I've declared no licence once.
That's enough.
Never contact capita/BBC to tell them you dont need a licence!!! This authorises them to keep your details. Simply cancel your direct debit, thats it!!!!!
@@robtheplod That's what I did, ignored them, but they send me a letter every couple of weeks and have sent an "investigator" round once. I don't have a TV, and don't want one either.
How many pay the tv licence in the migrant hotels?
None of them, your taxes pay
They don't even know how to use a remote.
The licence fee has to be scrapped. The BBC being the sole beneficiary is wrong. The BBC wastes money, does not provide quality programs and of the four main channels two don't operate until 7pm. It pays presenters like the awful linneaker an obscene amount of money for what? It has produced the disgusting Saville and Edwards to name a couple and worst of all knew what was going on and did nothing. We are not in the 30's anymore when there was a need to fund broadcasting via TV licencing. Scrap the licence and if the appalling BBC is to continue it should fund itself.
Licence and License -
Licence is the noun: We bought a TV licence.
License is the verb: We are licensed to use the TV. We have a licence from TV Licensing.
I have a driving licence. I am licensed to drive. I got it from Vehicle Licensing, who issue the licences.
Been 15 years since I've had a licence.
I got rid of my TV at the same time. Was never a huge fan.
Thanks Daniel.
I withdrew their implied right to come to my house. That got rid of them. It's a legal term too.
Bad idea.
This could lead to them getting a search warrant.
@@The_BigCheesethey have not and that was a decade ago.
@@The_BigCheesewhat are they searching for?
You're probably one of those uninformed and incorrect people that believes the nonsense Richard Vobes spreads
@@fionagregory9147 But they can.
Quite a few years ago I went to a Question Time recording and Billy Cotton Jnr was doing a kind of warm up talking about the licence fee. I had to agree to his arguments then that if the BBC went to advertising the ITV and Channel 4 (was no 5) would have to compete on price and everyone would start to lose out. However, with so many channels now accepting low-cost advertising, that has happened and ITV is as rubbish as everything else. So 'Cry havoc and let loose the dogs of war.' Let them all fight for it.
Americans find the UK TV license odd because it's mandatory, even for those who don't watch BBC content. Unlike in the U.S., where people pay only for services they choose, the TV license feels restrictive. Enforcement with fines or jail also seems excessive, and many see it as outdated in a world dominated by streaming. Public broadcasting in the U.S. relies on donations, not mandatory fees, which better aligns with consumer freedom.
Does the BBC make people outside the UK have a licence even though the BBC makes special problems for them paid for by us. Sounds normal nowadays.
I want to see the BBC go to another country and set up capita to obtain more from there country population. I really want to see what happens.
the stupid people who Pay for the TV licence, Pay for TV shows that earn money in other countries yet the profits from these shows go into some one else pocket
nope, just gullible UK citizens who pay their licence....
I think if the BBC didn't rely on intimidation tactics for the licensing fee and didn't do things like support past, present and future Jimmy Savilles, people might not reject the license as much as they do.
As for myself, I just don't watch live TV or anything BBC.
Ban the tv licence and BBC.
Today the “licence fee” is a grossly distortion of competition in favour of a single broadcaster.
Why does none of the revenue got to other free to air services?
The BBC has a massive legacy of intellectual property that can be licensed by to broadcasters.
Time to abolish the licence fee and make the BBC self fund itself commercially.
The licence fee and the way live over the air TV content is transmitted is archaic and unnecessary. We live in a modern world and should be able to watch content when we want and in many cases pay for that privilege. The BBC should fund itself via selling content through subscription. The unwarranted tax is a detriment to the poorer end of the pay scale such as pensioners, students and so on. The fact that you can be fined a lot of moeny (and in the past jailed)for not having a TV licence while watching live broadcasts, which again affect the poor and vulnerable, is abhorrent as being jailed for 2 years for a tweet on X! Modern living, who would believe Orwell predicted this!
We in AUS got rid of that stupid Licence Fee system back in the 1960's Totally bureaucratic and unnecessary; our ABC is just funded out of general govt revenue. They do a fair bit of marketing too, and sell a lot of your stuff as well as their own !
Make them stop forcing their signal into homes that don't want it... make it a box if you want to get their signal.
I don't possess a TV and have no interest in watching that rubbish, nor am I interested in the 90% of the news which is about the petty squabbles of celebrities I've never watched in programmes I've never heard of rather than real events about which if they do report them they are lying anyway.
Why should I pay for a service I don't want or use?
Why is there an assumption that everybody watches television? We're not all morons.
Wow that's a massive sweeping statement about the TV quality.
I bet you wipe from back to front. 😂
I have not had a licence for years now, and I always make sure that I make this declaration online as soon as I receive an email from the BBC to confirm that I still do not need one. So far I have never been bothered by anyone knocking at my door.
Where's the fun in that? Better not to tell them so they have to waste time chasing you. Do what ever you can to deplete the BBC.
You do realise by contacting the BBC every 2 years you are giving them authority to keep your details?
Had a letter arrive saying I have a 10 window or they’ll be visiting… it was a great relief because I had just ran out of toilet paper and needed a shit so the letter was very helpful
You will be amazed at how complicated crooked the BBC is. Where do you think all old programs have been sold, the off shoots of the BBC.
Franchise the BBC out or sell it after you have sold all the buildings.
I passed my motorcycle test when I was 16, my car test at 17, I’m now 78 and still use and ride car and motorcycle.
To quote an episode of not the nine o'clock news...
"I think the BBC is a load of crap"
i feel i am preached to whenever watching the BBC an I have to pay for it, not for much longer
As I understood it, the Post Office was given a monopoly (and thereby control) over Post, then telegraph, then telephone, then radio and finally TV. All involve information going from one premises to another.
Cannot tell what you are trying to say.
Worth noting that when the House of Lords explored alternatives to the TV Licence Fee, they were against general taxation.
However, they were supportive of a household levy on council tax. This would allow for discounts to be applied, such as single occupancy and those with SMIs. The collection and enforcement of it would also be covered by the existing council tax system.
I believe they were also broadly supportive of a levy on broadband, though that had more issues/concerns.
Replying on advertising is a non-starter, as it would be strongly opposed by all commercial TV channels. Subscription was also ruled out, not least as the government likes a bit of soft power, which the BBC brings particularly via the World Service.
Lords report: committees.parliament.uk/publications/23091/documents/169130/default/
Chapter 4 (paragraph 88) lists European countries that have abolished the licence fee, and states what it has been replaced with. Paragraphs 131 to 136 cover the household levy alternative.
Hopefully, the current Labour government will take note of this report when making its decisions.
I'd rather watch unbiased TV even if I have to watch adverts.
I'm glad yo brought this up again. Here in the U.S., so far as I know, we don't have a license fee. If you want to watch T.V., your choices are analog (antenna), cable or internet (streaming). With cable, you pay for it - cable companies are privately held companies. For internet, you pay your internet access fee and connect to any number of free streaming services or pay for subscriptions to companies like HBO or Amazon Prime. Live sports is rare unless you pay for it. I've been listening to you talk about licensing fees in the U.K. and am totally confused. We have PBS (Public Broadcast Service) TV (telly?) and radio - but it is subsidized via the Federal Government and donations - they get a lot of donations and couldn't survive on what they get from Federal Government. We do get BBC programs here in the U.S. but I've gotten a bit afraid to watch them. I didn't pay for BBC programs. Does that mean 007 is going to come bust in my door, arrest me and toss me in to prison? If I visit your country and watch a video on my phone, will I get thrown in to prison? Will I have to drain my savings account and pay the U.K. in order to get out of prison? A bit tongue-in-cheek but you catch my drift.
Don’t worry about it mate ,it’s all a con ,
@@KennyMcDermott-m8q Chuckle.
They will covert it to a tax. So everyone pays whether you use it or not !
lisa nandy is looking at that option now!
I gave up my licence a few months ago, I don't watch the BBC, i player C4 or any live shows/ programs of any sort on ANY channel the BBC are a national disgrace and are so biased and away with the faries. It's an institution that needs defending.
The system is very fair to those that understand this;
If you do not engage with goons they are powerless and thus you never have to pay the licence fee.
I will be furious if they added it to council tax, if it's added to employee tax then that doesn't affect me. So far they've just mentioned "general taxation", I don't understand what is meant by that?
Come on now the BBC is technically not state run but.... We all know what it truly is surely? I hope so at least! 😔😔
I wouldn't care so much if it was just for BBC stuff rather than all live channels like it should be, but they know they'll fail instantly that way because they are shit.
If you think about the big picture the cost per year isn't terrible if it was just for access to all the BBC stuff without any adverts, it's all the forceful ness of it trying to cover things it shouldn't etc that puts people off more.
Both myself and my neighbour had a combined harassment of about 3 years even though we each HAD a license then. We kept phoning, BBC Licensing kept agreeing that they had our licenses registered....but still the threats kept coming.
But IS NOT used for the roads, it was absorbed into general taxation and the roads are the worse for it !!
Exactly! Hence the poor state of British roads!
In the US we don't pay a licensing fee, as far as I know.
The BBC overseas services carry advertisements.. If they broadcast here you get something that plays over said advertisements so you don't see them here. If they did show them here it would give the game away so they have to ghost them .If you see BBC world news, they will have musical interludes. That is when overseas viewers are receiving ads. It's a complete con.
Just like the National Lottery is run by companies that bid for it, the state broadcaster role should be put out to tender.
Stayed in a hotel recently and watched TV for the better part of three days solid (no decent internet). It was absolutely shite.
ok, so on day one you'd discover that, yet continued on day 2 and 3... interesting!
Australia abolished tv license in 70s
Yes, radio and television licences abolished by the Whitlam Government in September 1974. Go Aussies.
If the BBC is publicly funded then it shouldn't be politicized.
Unless it represents the views of the general public I guess.
It seems to me that the STATE BROADCASTING SERVICE here in the UK has changed into the STATE PROPAGANDA MACHINE.
😂 pay for a tv license 😂
It all went tits up went the BBC became so darn political and woke. From that moment on, when they lost the support of the general public, it turned to a shower of sh.... I do not agree with it being a criminal act not to have one, that needs to be immediately addressed and cancelled as that is grossly wrong and they should not have been allowed to stop it for pensioners either!
100% well said
Anything the government runs, turns out being for the workers and not the customers, and the integrity and quality evaporates.
I'm getting sick of them sending letters. I told them we don't watch live TV and now they just keep sending them it's harrassment. Is there a way to completely stop them?
Stopped watching the rubbish BBC yonks ago and stopped paying for it best thing I ever did was switch off my TV altogether utube is my TV these days
They'll never get rid of the very vehicle that spreads their lies.
One of the biggest revenue raising licences is the SIA licence.
£184, and it only lasts 3 years. 🙄
And only law abiding people do the training, others just pay a fixer
Don't forget that you need to pay for a First Aid course, and after 1st April a two day top up course,
So the best part of £450
im time served city and guilds fabricator welder they want contractors to have a scats card..health and safety ticket is probably around £400 for 2 years now..even though every time you enter a site you have a health and safety induction..penny pinching is everywhere if they could charge you for walking and breathing they would
As far as I’m aware, it is still illegal to fund a criminal organisation. That’s why I don’t pay my BBC tv licence.😐
I really used to like the idea of the BBC when it was impartial.
Sometimes it's easy to forget the benefits.
In the USA for example, if there was a guest that talked about subjects an advertiser didn't like they would threaten to withdraw their sponsorship if the guest was allowed to say certain things.
I've just realised, that's a bit like UA-cam. It's great that's it's free but a lot of opinions are not allowed. If you want to hear free opinions you have to pay for it.
The BBC in it's current state doesn't deserve any money though