Technological devices have been thought to spring to life fully formed like Athena from the head of Zeus. It never has worked that way. I love the idea of adding Fletner (sp?) sails to Savonius turbines. Chris and Cheryl seem to be both unusual and cutting edge. Kudos to them and you.
Using the machines for side jobs can also build expertise that will certainly benefit the long term project and goals. I sure hope the investors see this as a good use of your time and resources.
I am sure they have a good speed control to adjust size.. but i kept thinking if they put an anemometer on the top or bottom of the unit with a Centrifugal governor to close the scoops and have the turbine always try to open the scoops. I think with gearing they could use an old school flyweight speed control to try to close the scoops. similar to old school elevators centrifugal governor. it seems like a piece of simple old school tech that may not be the best to adjust but it may be the most durable efficient way
Classic overthinking lol it’s a great company. Idk why you want unnecessary changes. Not to mention all that added cost and even more prototyping lol like cmon man
This company is going places. Wish I could invest in them. Unfortunately, I live in an area with very little wind, else I would buy one whenever they became available.
I really enjoyed this interview! I had no idea about this channel, because I have never heard you mention it on your channel Matt. Just a hint for you to mention it to make it more wide spread. 👌
Its a great idea but when I hear statements about installing them "in your back yard" warning bells go off, this thing is pretty big, no way its going to be safe to instal one at ground level nor would there be enough wind there in most cases. At 5+ grand with 500w of intermitent power generation it will create a payback of 10 or even 20 years. Add installation and maintenence costs to that? I hope I am wrong because I would love to see these in action...
I had to read through probly 50 or so comments to find this one. Something is wrong when nobody is questioning this. I thought the same thing and did the simple math in my head. Personally love the idea of wind turbines etc. But seems like a great field to fleece people. Read through these comments and you'll understand. All these people sposedly begging to throw money at this at the figures he quoted. Fishy if you ask me. I hope and we'll see but man I'd be careful
I'm seriously impressed with their tech, but as with many things like this, I worry about the durability of these turbines. I see lots of moving parts, gearing, etc. There's also a lot of mass, though that can likely be reduced to a point, but still. Regardless, a cool, fascinating idea. The possible melding with a flettner rotor is freaking awesome.
I still think it’s significantly less maintenance than any solar panel. Until nanotechnology is integrated fully in Panels. Gears are used in a million other things that we use, so just think kind of the same. Don’t let it rust lol
That center axis pole is not big enough. In fact, think about a design wrapped around existing momople towers. E.G. urban high tension, interstate light masts, bilboard masts. Add more scoops on the stack to get an offset angle of 8° or less. Incorporate a variation in scoop height, tied to a ratio of primes to null/eliminate sympathetic vibrations. Hopefully, these three specific suggestions can help you out as you continue forward. I'm rooting for you.
lol it’s still a prototype. It’ll obviously change if/when it comes to fruition. This company is a game changer when looking at all the other turbine companies coming out
I'm enthusiastic about the idea, enough to invest a small amout, what I can afford, in it to help development. I hope thet are able to get far enough to market it. Small scale wind generation seems a worthy niche to fill.
This is fascinating! I do wish that Cheryl would correct verbage to verbiage, but I’m just nitpicking. Seriously, I hope that their product comes to fruition and is a great success!
@@maggiem.5904 Hi! Cheryl said “verbage,” without the “i” before the “a,” rather than the correct “verbiage,” WITH the “i.” I too was nitpicking, though I understood what she meant. Does that make more sense now?
@@MJD925 yes, verb-ee-age IS the correct pronunciation, even if you’ve encountered people who don’t pronounce it that way. That said, English is an evolving language and maybe verb-age will supersede verb-ee-age at some point in the future. Regardless, her meaning was clear, and that’s the bigger takeaway.
Just to clarify, large wind turbines vary their blade angle to keep electric production at 60 hz. (USA). This is done to eliminate losses related to using inverters. (As I understand the design.) At very high wind speeds or when out of service they feather the blades to stop them. I was disappointed that the conversation didn't ger into AC power frequency regulation. Based on what was said I assume that an inverter will be use to create 60 hz AC electric power for applications were 60 hz AC power is desired. (Typical household power.)
I know you’re talking about wind turbines. I always think of water turbines and putting them in saying rivers under the water far enough that it boats don’t bother it. I don’t know why they haven’t done this makes sense in the world like rivers like the Niagara river where you’ve got quite a good current, just seems like you could have all the power you want
They are doing that. And the world has been doing that for quite some time now. I think this company would do just as fine under water as it does in air
There are multiple companies actually. Wind is being heavily invested in again cause it’s passive energy. None of them can do what Harmony Turbines is able to do though. That much is clear
Their comments about side jobs got me thinking. Are there any companies offering manufacturing "in the cloud?" I don't really want to own a bunch of equipment. I want to spin it up on demand when I want to test a new design
Doesn’t matter.. it’s the best wind technology that has ever been developed as of right now. I’d pull the trigger regardless. Even with the countless other companies trying to capitalize on wind turbine tech
It seems like the founders are honest and trustworthy but I do not belive they understand what they are trying to do. To me there are lots of red flags and alarmbells going of. 1. Why bother trying to capture the miniscule energy in low windspeeds? A 400 W turbine at 25 mph would produce roughly 0.002 W at 1 mph and 0.02 W at 2 mph. ( assuming the same efficiency).It is the equivalent of trying to sell a PW solar cell with the argument that i can produce electricity during the night, which its competitors can not. 2. The target of 400 W at 25 mph seems way to high for a turbine of that intended size. It would require an efficiency of about 90%. Doable but highly unlikley. 3. After five years the company only have a prototype which they hope to gather data from and they are expecting it to take years before a production ready product. In my head it sounds like an alarmbell. 4. I fail to see the big market. In most location the pricetag would have to be tiny in order to make this a viable product. A rough estimate for electricity production in my location would be in the ballpark of 4 kWh per year which would mean this thing has to be sold at a price comparable to a cup of coffe to make sense. I do not belive that is a reasonable price to make profit hence I am skeptical of the wider use. I can only see this as a niche product which already have exist competitors with prooven products.
I agree. In my area (city), we get an monthly averages of 5-9 mph, but along the cost there are annual averages of 15 to 20 mph, with daily wind speeds of 30 mph being common. At best it seems like the product will be nitch for costal areas, not for the masses. Give me some good numbers around 10 mph winds and lower the price by removing a 0, then we can talk.
Thank you for pointing that out. Very few comments like this. I do hope all is on the up and up but seems like an easy way to crowd fund and fleece folks. But give it time and well see
They didn’t start this company for that reason alone. It just so happens that this technology is capable of working in very low wind and extremely high winds
Just look at all the other companies in this same category, and you’ll understand. Well at least I’d hope you’d understand after that lmao. This company is dope
They have been doing this for years now and have produced nothing but taking money from people to fund and it is now October 24 and still nothing and still asking people to invest.
@ they haven’t been in business for that long.. I still have companies that I invested in going on 5 years that seem like they aren’t moving along, but there’s a lot that goes on. Especially when it’s a brand new innovation. This is all absolutely normal when you invest in startups
Nice way to quit your job and live based on funding. So he employed his wife, and will employ all his family members to make more salary from this company. Enjoy while you can. We know this project will not materialize.
@@meilyn22 lol I wish dude I definitely wish. I was just on a caffeine rush lmao 🤣. However I do believe what I said. Take a look at all the other wind turbine companies bro
In the year 2525, if man is still alive If woman can survive, they may find In the year 3535 Ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lie Everything you think, do and say Is in the pill you took today In the year 4545 You ain't gonna need your teeth, won't need your eyes You won't find a thing to chew Nobody's gonna look at you In the year 5555 Your arms hangin' limp at your sides Your legs got nothin' to do Some machine's doin' that for you In the year 6565 You won't need no husband, won't need no wife You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too From the bottom of a long glass tube In the year 7510 Harmony Turbines will finally be sold to the public and stop being a hustle for foolish investors...
Cool idea, but.... 1) The cost is inherently much higher than solar and solar is getting less expensive 2) This is a very small research project. The joint efforts with universities sound very tenuous. It can result in some good refinements but will take years. 3) To scale up the manufacturing will require many millions and will require a support organization etc.... in other words all of the trappings of a functional company I see this as more of a niche application. I suspect a success path is through licensing the tech to established companies. Best case this is 5 years away.
Solar is less expensive because it’s become way too saturated. Not to mention all the technical problems that come with solar panels. Wind is passive energy it pays for itself. Also, it’s not expensive at all when you consider that it’ll pay for itself pretty quick, and has its own energy storage if there’s 0 mph of wind. Easy investment for me
It’s far from a niche market when there are a lot of other win turbine companies in the world. Wind is being heavily invested in now cause it’s passive
Nifty looking lawn ornaments, but so silly to talk about it as if its some sort of revolutionary tech. Wind power is obviously inadequate for modern electricity consumption requirements. Talking about small efficiency improvements even though magical 100% efficiency turbines would still not be a cost effective means of electricity production. The little company is a bit of a joke too. They wasted a bunch of time and effort trying reinvent the wheel with basic aspects of the turbine design because they apparently didnt think to look at tech that had been around for a long time.
Thanks for highlighting this initiative. The effort put into this project deserves support from a variety of sectors.
I want one. My winter power needs are minimal, we don’t have much sun, but we have plenty of wind.
Technological devices have been thought to spring to life fully formed like Athena from the head of Zeus. It never has worked that way. I love the idea of adding Fletner (sp?) sails to Savonius turbines. Chris and Cheryl seem to be both unusual and cutting edge. Kudos to them and you.
Using the machines for side jobs can also build expertise that will certainly benefit the long term project and goals. I sure hope the investors see this as a good use of your time and resources.
Yessir!!
This is super exciting stuff! Thsnk you fot giving them more exposure
💯💯💯
I am sure they have a good speed control to adjust size.. but i kept thinking if they put an anemometer on the top or bottom of the unit with a Centrifugal governor to close the scoops and have the turbine always try to open the scoops. I think with gearing they could use an old school flyweight speed control to try to close the scoops. similar to old school elevators centrifugal governor. it seems like a piece of simple old school tech that may not be the best to adjust but it may be the most durable efficient way
I think they address this in their FAQ - the RPMs aren't high enough for a centrifugal type governor to generate enough torque to move the vanes.
When the turbines close, it isn’t a bad thing though.. they’re still producing
Classic overthinking lol it’s a great company. Idk why you want unnecessary changes. Not to mention all that added cost and even more prototyping lol like cmon man
48:41 I wish you would have explained more about what a Flettner rotor is or does. I had to google it. 30 efficiency gains sounds too good to be true.
So you’re mad cause you had to do some research? Lmao 😂😂. He talked about it plenty, bud. Welcome to work life
I feel your pain, Matt Ferrell. You are not alone.
I like the theme and idea of the series!
This company is going places. Wish I could invest in them. Unfortunately, I live in an area with very little wind, else I would buy one whenever they became available.
Here in the uk the SD3 and SD6 HAWT turbine has blades that flex back on springs in severe weather, so they don't need to be stopped in storms.
Significantly slowing down might as well be fully stopped when comparing to Harmony Turbines
Why not use a CVT (continuously variable transmission) ?
Cause this is different lol
I really enjoyed this interview! I had no idea about this channel, because I have never heard you mention it on your channel Matt. Just a hint for you to mention it to make it more wide spread. 👌
I love this design
Its a great idea but when I hear statements about installing them "in your back yard" warning bells go off, this thing is pretty big, no way its going to be safe to instal one at ground level nor would there be enough wind there in most cases. At 5+ grand with 500w of intermitent power generation it will create a payback of 10 or even 20 years. Add installation and maintenence costs to that? I hope I am wrong because I would love to see these in action...
I had to read through probly 50 or so comments to find this one. Something is wrong when nobody is questioning this. I thought the same thing and did the simple math in my head.
Personally love the idea of wind turbines etc. But seems like a great field to fleece people. Read through these comments and you'll understand. All these people sposedly begging to throw money at this at the figures he quoted. Fishy if you ask me.
I hope and we'll see but man I'd be careful
Dunking on ideas doesn't get as many views, gushing over them on the other hand!
It’s not as big as you think lol it’s actually very small. Take a look at the other companies in this space that are in backyards. The legit companies
They’re small enough to be placed on top of boats… think about that
Looks to have great potential. Hopefully the data results are what they expect or more.
I'm seriously impressed with their tech, but as with many things like this, I worry about the durability of these turbines. I see lots of moving parts, gearing, etc. There's also a lot of mass, though that can likely be reduced to a point, but still.
Regardless, a cool, fascinating idea.
The possible melding with a flettner rotor is freaking awesome.
Moving parts is one thing. Rubbing parts is the worry. Gears and such don't have much rubbing so I hope the maintenance is low!
I still think it’s significantly less maintenance than any solar panel. Until nanotechnology is integrated fully in Panels. Gears are used in a million other things that we use, so just think kind of the same. Don’t let it rust lol
What else rubs on it besides the gears?
That center axis pole is not big enough. In fact, think about a design wrapped around existing momople towers. E.G. urban high tension, interstate light masts, bilboard masts. Add more scoops on the stack to get an offset angle of 8° or less. Incorporate a variation in scoop height, tied to a ratio of primes to null/eliminate sympathetic vibrations.
Hopefully, these three specific suggestions can help you out as you continue forward. I'm rooting for you.
lol it’s still a prototype. It’ll obviously change if/when it comes to fruition. This company is a game changer when looking at all the other turbine companies coming out
I'm enthusiastic about the idea, enough to invest a small amout, what I can afford, in it to help development. I hope thet are able to get far enough to market it. Small scale wind generation seems a worthy niche to fill.
📈📈📈
This is fascinating! I do wish that Cheryl would correct verbage to verbiage, but I’m just nitpicking. Seriously, I hope that their product comes to fruition and is a great success!
What does “correct verbiage to verbiage” mean? - from a fellow nit picker.
@@maggiem.5904 Hi! Cheryl said “verbage,” without the “i” before the “a,” rather than the correct “verbiage,” WITH the “i.” I too was nitpicking, though I understood what she meant. Does that make more sense now?
Lmao nobody pronounces verbiage in that way though. That would sound like verb-ee-age
@@MJD925 yes, verb-ee-age IS the correct pronunciation, even if you’ve encountered people who don’t pronounce it that way. That said, English is an evolving language and maybe verb-age will supersede verb-ee-age at some point in the future. Regardless, her meaning was clear, and that’s the bigger takeaway.
@@rojoclazlmao this convo was very entertaining regardless of what happens. It’s like a-pricot or ay-pricot 😂😂
another great video, terrific interview, and so many exciting prospects ahead! Thanks for all of this
Just to clarify, large wind turbines vary their blade angle to keep electric production at 60 hz. (USA). This is done to eliminate losses related to using inverters. (As I understand the design.) At very high wind speeds or when out of service they feather the blades to stop them.
I was disappointed that the conversation didn't ger into AC power frequency regulation. Based on what was said I assume that an inverter will be use to create 60 hz AC electric power for applications were 60 hz AC power is desired. (Typical household power.)
Anything that solar panels can power
Harmony Turbines also have their own storage power. This company is dope
Nice idea & great if true but something smells off. The variable air gap is so obvious even I thought of it.
That doesn’t matter
I know you’re talking about wind turbines. I always think of water turbines and putting them in saying rivers under the water far enough that it boats don’t bother it. I don’t know why they haven’t done this makes sense in the world like rivers like the Niagara river where you’ve got quite a good current, just seems like you could have all the power you want
They are doing that. And the world has been doing that for quite some time now. I think this company would do just as fine under water as it does in air
I would love to have this tech on the property. Even if it's an out dated unit, it's better than what we currently have, which is nothing.
There are multiple companies actually. Wind is being heavily invested in again cause it’s passive energy. None of them can do what Harmony Turbines is able to do though. That much is clear
Their comments about side jobs got me thinking. Are there any companies offering manufacturing "in the cloud?"
I don't really want to own a bunch of equipment. I want to spin it up on demand when I want to test a new design
Doesn’t matter.. it’s the best wind technology that has ever been developed as of right now. I’d pull the trigger regardless. Even with the countless other companies trying to capitalize on wind turbine tech
It seems like the founders are honest and trustworthy but I do not belive they understand what they are trying to do. To me there are lots of red flags and alarmbells going of.
1. Why bother trying to capture the miniscule energy in low windspeeds? A 400 W turbine at 25 mph would produce roughly 0.002 W at 1 mph and 0.02 W at 2 mph. ( assuming the same efficiency).It is the equivalent of trying to sell a PW solar cell with the argument that i can produce electricity during the night, which its competitors can not.
2. The target of 400 W at 25 mph seems way to high for a turbine of that intended size. It would require an efficiency of about 90%. Doable but highly unlikley.
3. After five years the company only have a prototype which they hope to gather data from and they are expecting it to take years before a production ready product. In my head it sounds like an alarmbell.
4. I fail to see the big market. In most location the pricetag would have to be tiny in order to make this a viable product. A rough estimate for electricity production in my location would be in the ballpark of 4 kWh per year which would mean this thing has to be sold at a price comparable to a cup of coffe to make sense. I do not belive that is a reasonable price to make profit hence I am skeptical of the wider use. I can only see this as a niche product which already have exist competitors with prooven products.
I agree. In my area (city), we get an monthly averages of 5-9 mph, but along the cost there are annual averages of 15 to 20 mph, with daily wind speeds of 30 mph being common. At best it seems like the product will be nitch for costal areas, not for the masses. Give me some good numbers around 10 mph winds and lower the price by removing a 0, then we can talk.
Thank you for pointing that out. Very few comments like this. I do hope all is on the up and up but seems like an easy way to crowd fund and fleece folks. But give it time and well see
They didn’t start this company for that reason alone. It just so happens that this technology is capable of working in very low wind and extremely high winds
Just look at all the other companies in this same category, and you’ll understand. Well at least I’d hope you’d understand after that lmao. This company is dope
is Halcium Energy Inc dead?
They have been doing this for years now and have produced nothing but taking money from people to fund and it is now October 24 and still nothing and still asking people to invest.
You’re new to startup investing huh? Have patience, they’ll take off for sure
The most successful company of all time from StartEngine is still raising money on a regular basis lmao
@@MJD925 This has been years and other companies are producing and selling and here it is now 30th december 2024 still nothing
@ they haven’t been in business for that long.. I still have companies that I invested in going on 5 years that seem like they aren’t moving along, but there’s a lot that goes on. Especially when it’s a brand new innovation. This is all absolutely normal when you invest in startups
Barely more than an idea currently... Don't hold your breath
You’re incapable of forward thinking, Sir. This was obviously gonna be a hit with the world currently
Nice way to quit your job and live based on funding. So he employed his wife, and will employ all his family members to make more salary from this company. Enjoy while you can. We know this project will not materialize.
I suspect you may be right
lol except this company is doing what wind turbines have been trying to do since they first existed on earth.. you’re way off
@@MJD925 Looks like you are the burner account of the owner of this tech.
@@meilyn22 lol I wish dude I definitely wish. I was just on a caffeine rush lmao 🤣. However I do believe what I said. Take a look at all the other wind turbine companies bro
In the year 2525, if man is still alive
If woman can survive, they may find
In the year 3535
Ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lie
Everything you think, do and say
Is in the pill you took today
In the year 4545
You ain't gonna need your teeth, won't need your eyes
You won't find a thing to chew
Nobody's gonna look at you
In the year 5555
Your arms hangin' limp at your sides
Your legs got nothin' to do
Some machine's doin' that for you
In the year 6565
You won't need no husband, won't need no wife
You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From the bottom of a long glass tube
In the year 7510 Harmony Turbines will finally be sold to the public
and stop being a hustle for foolish investors...
I'm not gonna subscribe but you're chill so I'll leave another comment.
Cool idea, but....
1) The cost is inherently much higher than solar and solar is getting less expensive
2) This is a very small research project. The joint efforts with universities sound very tenuous. It can result in some good refinements but will take years.
3) To scale up the manufacturing will require many millions and will require a support organization etc.... in other words all of the trappings of a functional company
I see this as more of a niche application. I suspect a success path is through licensing the tech to established companies. Best case this is 5 years away.
Solar is less expensive because it’s become way too saturated. Not to mention all the technical problems that come with solar panels. Wind is passive energy it pays for itself. Also, it’s not expensive at all when you consider that it’ll pay for itself pretty quick, and has its own energy storage if there’s 0 mph of wind. Easy investment for me
It’s far from a niche market when there are a lot of other win turbine companies in the world. Wind is being heavily invested in now cause it’s passive
Integrate in 5g towers
Nifty looking lawn ornaments, but so silly to talk about it as if its some sort of revolutionary tech. Wind power is obviously inadequate for modern electricity consumption requirements. Talking about small efficiency improvements even though magical 100% efficiency turbines would still not be a cost effective means of electricity production.
The little company is a bit of a joke too. They wasted a bunch of time and effort trying reinvent the wheel with basic aspects of the turbine design because they apparently didnt think to look at tech that had been around for a long time.
Wind is passive energy dude. It sells itself. New sector for you?
Take a look at all the other wind power energy turbines that are currently on the market or in production. This company is far above in many of ways