Fantastic to see startups, um starting up(?) in Germany. You hear of all the outsourcing of manufacturing within Germany, and here you have precision machinery made in the good old DE again. Kudos to the team at Spinogy.
The difficulty in GER is more about governmental, tax stuff as well as paper work. Which makes it already such a serious headache for startups and other small business. There are other countries within the European Union that make this whole process so much easier.
@@p_mouse8676 Not only that, a constant worry is that granting your employees a living wage and the many other benefits afforded by law may price you out of your market. But 6k euros for that Spindle seems really good.
@@p_mouse8676 It's the same within these United States. Compliance with overly burdensome government regulations prevents far too many people from even investing in startups and is the direct cause of the failure of a large percentage of those which do launch.
Please, even if your channel turns out to be only about cnc machining and solar panels, it will be my favorite channel. Please don't stop making content!
Yes to the DIY imbalance meter! The _really_ cool thing would be to compare the phase of the drive and the vibration, so you could identify where a balance weight needs to be added as well as how big it needs to be. 😁
the metaflux paste is commonly used to lubricate the Toolchanger part of the Spindle. used to work with a few Hermle Machines and they did supplied a entire spraycan for this purpose.
I love the distinctly german advertiser friendly apple juice in the outro. Doesn't even foam up (though I wonder why apple juice would foam up in the first place?)
you mentioned at least 3 projects I would love to see, not like chasing errant ppm's isn't also cool, but CNC tool changers and high quality diy machining is what i grew up on and was in school doing, so I'd love to see your take on it all. also having that equipment handy means you can see if your high precision oven controlled references are vibrating within tolerance :P
Goddamn, that is one beautifully designed Spinogy spindle, Marco. I look forward to seeing you put it to good use, once you clean out your machine area that is.😬😆 Keep your excellent humor and editing up, and thanks for gracing us with such amazing content. Also, about that automatic collet chuck changer- DEW IT!!!😆😆
I program doosan turning centers at work, I love how rigid and reliable they are, but Fanuc controllers always feel lackluster compared to Okuma machines. Their GT3100 is a joy of a machine, it roughs steel, stainless, and nickle based alloys with no worries. The live tooling option can be pricey but worth it for sure. The MX2600 is a crazy machine I love to have an excuse to use. Good luck on your DIY CNC project, there's a lot to learn on how you're approaching it. Please do add an automatic tool changer, its worth it for automating longer run times that you don't want to spend all day for babysitting the machine.
@@oliverer3 Ultra high performance aluminum machining centers for aerospace and marine components capable of linear feeds on the order of 1000 inches per minute.
Awesome, was hoping to see this collab, I also have a spinogy spindle, It was for a project that was scrapped, but I got some plans for it in the future.
Cool. just 5 days ago my professor showed me this electronic Control box for the balancer (which he devolopt), didn't think that i see that so quickly. He also build his own High speed spindle and balanced it.
Ing_lish with a German accent/humor combination is in itself precious, but when adding a torrent of valuable technicality ... can't be described in words 😉.
There was a company in the 90's that manufactured a 50,000 RPM 1/4 hp spindle that could be mounted to a machine tool via an R8 collet. I tried using one exclusively for two weeks but wasn't impressed with the results. Of course, the machine tools of the 90's could not deliver the feed rates required by high RPM spindles.
@@gaiustacitus4242 it would also only be for the small tools. like my 1mm carbide endmill with 25mm long reduced shank or my 0.5mm carbide drill where the feed of the machine i have in minde is way more then needed for those rpm's at those sizes
Good Video! Are you from Germany, because of your rolling "r". Not chanche, because i Sounds cool and as a not native english its perfekt to understand!!! Uhhh Festo nice! Thanks for your work for us to show us good stuff. Greatings to all and stay safe!
And your old spindle is still sitting idle in my living room, cause I still did´nt have the time to integrate it into my CNC 😩. Sorry Reps, I´m working on it 😁 Anyway, good luck and have fun with your new spindle
One of our precision instruments for measuring the length of wool fibers included a keypad mount that started out as 24 in. x 6 in. x 6 in. (609.6 mm x 152.4 mm x 152.4 mm) aluminum bar. More than 85% of the aluminum was removed during the machining operations. Other materials and approaches had been tried but none proved adequate for producing a part that was required to aesthetically pleasing. Of course, this part was manufactured by a company that produced its own keyboards (which were sealed to prevent entry of dust and water vapor) at a cost of $1,200 US in 1984 (more than $3,500 US in 2023 after adjusting for inflation). Quality was never compromised regardless of the expense.
They should buy a desktop type CNC to carve out foam for the transport + 3 ply boxes at a minimum. That kind of upgrade might seem trivial, but it's the kind of thing that shows the customers that you aren't playing around (and it's better than perforated cardboard). This is a cheap upgrade that does a lot for the end experience of the person who purchases this jewel.
They avoided foam to be more environmentally friendly, plastic foam is terrible, it easily sheds particles that take hundreds of years to decay, and it can only be incinerated unless collected, sorted and then recycled. We need to limit the use of one time plastics, they really should not been seen as a standard. To make it look better they could have used a wooden box with laser cut inserts inside to hold the tool securely. Though wood also has an environmental impact in the form of land use and disturbing forests.
Nice to see the precision Doosan CNC from Korea. Hopefully in the future when Spinogy has more money, they can afford the top tier, ultra precision, yet affordable, machining centers from Jingdiao in China. 😂
When I want Chinese precision machine tools I turn to those manufactured in Taiwan. The quality of items manufactured in mainland China is hit or miss, and that goes for everything from the metal alloys used, to the dimensional accuracy of machined parts, and all the way down to simple things like connections for the wiring. Add to that the 30% import tariffs currently in effect within these United States on on a wide of range of goods from the PRC and the potential rewards don't outweigh the risks.
Gee, Marco... ONLY 50,000 RPM?? But, I guess that that is really humming for an electrical drive spindle...I did some consulting at a PCB manufacturer, and watched drills and mills running at 127,000 RPM, but I'm sure that those are air drive... Building a balancer would be pretty cool... using optical sensor to correlate shaft position with accelerometer readings, FFTs to look at spectra, maybe incorporate an oscilloscope as the central measurement and analysis 'hub'... My, my, my.... what a "christmas unboxing"!!
So for the home cnc, do you feel the Spinogy is a better choice over the Mechatron? I looked into the Mechatron after your video a few years back. 10K+ USD is a bunch.
There's a risk that I'm going to have an ATC before you. OK, although I'm using $$$$$ rather than actually MAKING one myself, and that's cheating, but the race is on! Props to Spinogy for *almost* letting you take that dynamic balancer apart.
Those are holes for tightening the mounting screws - at 12:20 ish you can see the hangers in the back that line up with those holes. You'll also probably need to loosen them a bit if needed to adjust the tram.
5:23 - why are those prices stated in thousandths of a Euro? Anyway, less than 6 Euros is a great price for that X22 model even after considering the exchange rate. I'll take 10. (yes, I know, I'm just kidding)
I’m sure this has been asked before… Is the narration recorded or computer generated? There is a certain staccato nature of it which makes it hard to tell. Neat to see a new startup!
I never understood advertising expensive products. I feel most of us watching on most UA-cam channels can’t afford it. If it’s free then yeah but if they pay the UA-cam I can’t imagine it’s worth it.
Because we can learn about how the best things are made and how they are better, then we can either save up money or do a DIY project to make our own for cheap.
Thanks for your feedback. This helps us to get even better. We fixed some bugs on the English site. We also ship to the US. There are some X22 in America 😊 if you have some issues by ordering via the shop write us an email.
A CNC spindle tool change contest is the most german party thing I have ever seen.
the most German thing is probably that glas bowl which is formed like a giant leaf and somehow shows up in every household.. but after that..
@@olik136 Serie Aspen by Luminarc :)
@@johanness6545 that is the one 😂
Fantastic to see startups, um starting up(?) in Germany. You hear of all the outsourcing of manufacturing within Germany, and here you have precision machinery made in the good old DE again. Kudos to the team at Spinogy.
The difficulty in GER is more about governmental, tax stuff as well as paper work. Which makes it already such a serious headache for startups and other small business. There are other countries within the European Union that make this whole process so much easier.
I’d buy one with my own money, so I know it’s amazing quality with excellent support! Greetings from USA!
We've been testing a spinogy spindle for professional cnc machines and it looks promising so far.
@@p_mouse8676 Not only that, a constant worry is that granting your employees a living wage and the many other benefits afforded by law may price you out of your market. But 6k euros for that Spindle seems really good.
@@p_mouse8676 It's the same within these United States. Compliance with overly burdensome government regulations prevents far too many people from even investing in startups and is the direct cause of the failure of a large percentage of those which do launch.
Please, even if your channel turns out to be only about cnc machining and solar panels, it will be my favorite channel. Please don't stop making content!
Yes I'd still like it also. But then I'd have to find another enthusiastic metrology nerd to follow, as I love that content as well.
Yes to the DIY imbalance meter! The _really_ cool thing would be to compare the phase of the drive and the vibration, so you could identify where a balance weight needs to be added as well as how big it needs to be. 😁
Have a look at model jet turbine builders - there are a few designs for DIY balancers that do exactly that.
Also interesting would be something DIY to measure stuff like thermal expansion.
3:53 This would be a DELIGHTFUL project and video!
Also laser ablative balancing intrigues me and could be something you could look into if you have the right lasers.
Was already enthusiastically writing my comment when I thought I can't be the only one who would love to see this come to life.
Wow. What a great affirmation of your channel and skills to get this type of recognition and product. I am looking forward to more hot CNC action!
You will *absolutely* build that tool changer magazine, you *know* you will :D
At 2:09 see that machine try to spit on you? 😂 Great video as always. Love seeing this kinda stuff
the metaflux paste is commonly used to lubricate the Toolchanger part of the Spindle.
used to work with a few Hermle Machines and they did supplied a entire spraycan for this purpose.
"RRRRUIN the chances"
I love it when the deutsche Aussprache comes out sometimes 😅
I love the distinctly german advertiser friendly apple juice in the outro. Doesn't even foam up (though I wonder why apple juice would foam up in the first place?)
Oh, das ist ja hier um die Ecke. Die kannte ich gar nicht. Das ist ja spannend!
2:08 - I was going to make a comment regarding how I feel about the visuals, but the machine summed it up perfectly.
Yes please on the diy balance meter. Sounds like an incredibly intriguing project.
Sad to see Doosan not Traub there though!
Marco - Always like the shout out to @Abom79 - he's working on his own CNC work.. alongside the manual milling.
you mentioned at least 3 projects I would love to see, not like chasing errant ppm's isn't also cool, but CNC tool changers and high quality diy machining is what i grew up on and was in school doing, so I'd love to see your take on it all. also having that equipment handy means you can see if your high precision oven controlled references are vibrating within tolerance :P
Yes, I agree, it's time to put everything else on hold and focus on the CNC project!!! ❤❤❤ More CNC please!
I didn't think it was possible to drool over collet chucks, but here I am with a wet throw pillow.
Goddamn, that is one beautifully designed Spinogy spindle, Marco. I look forward to seeing you put it to good use, once you clean out your machine area that is.😬😆 Keep your excellent humor and editing up, and thanks for gracing us with such amazing content. Also, about that automatic collet chuck changer- DEW IT!!!😆😆
The DIY CNC machine was how I found this channel. So definitely give us more CNC content soon!
If it were me, I would have to sift through all that cardboard packing material -- you never know where those last few PPMs are hiding!
I program doosan turning centers at work, I love how rigid and reliable they are, but Fanuc controllers always feel lackluster compared to Okuma machines. Their GT3100 is a joy of a machine, it roughs steel, stainless, and nickle based alloys with no worries. The live tooling option can be pricey but worth it for sure. The MX2600 is a crazy machine I love to have an excuse to use.
Good luck on your DIY CNC project, there's a lot to learn on how you're approaching it. Please do add an automatic tool changer, its worth it for automating longer run times that you don't want to spend all day for babysitting the machine.
I might buy an ATC spindle this year... watching closely!
GMN also makes spindles, that is direct drive spindles up to 150kW and 35,000 rpm for some of the world's highest performing machining centers.
I'm trying to think of what you need a 150kW spindle for and drawing a blank.
Half a meter depth of cut in tungsten?
@@oliverer3 Ultra high performance aluminum machining centers for aerospace and marine components capable of linear feeds on the order of 1000 inches per minute.
Awesome, was hoping to see this collab, I also have a spinogy spindle, It was for a project that was scrapped, but I got some plans for it in the future.
Cool. just 5 days ago my professor showed me this electronic Control box for the balancer (which he devolopt), didn't think that i see that so quickly. He also build his own High speed spindle and balanced it.
"Insurmountable Constipation" that is so far winning the best word combo i've heard all day challenge
Ah yes, the famous German "Advertiser friendly apple juice"
I've got one of these on my wishlist... now I just need the funds for one. Lets first finish the walls and ceiling of my new workshop I guess :)
Holy- I think the most impressive thing here is the fact that they tell you the price right on the website... THAT'S rare
Marius Hornberger made a tool changer from scratch and it's a beauty.
0:22 I like your Volvo!
Great to see you back! Impressive spindle!
Ing_lish with a German accent/humor combination is in itself precious, but when adding a torrent of valuable technicality ... can't be described in words 😉.
All your videos are great but I'm glad to see more cnc stuff again
Yes, more CNC content would be so much appreciated! 😁
Fun times, I look forward to seeing this spindle run!
Beautiful pieces of kit. Unfortunately it will have to be a ghetto ebay spindle for my CNC build.
Hey, we all have to start somewhere. I'm sure Marco started the same way and look at him now rocking some pretty amazing equipment.
yes! please more cnc content! I mean it's all good but the cnc stuffs the most fun
i could easily see my self putting on of those on a manual mill as a highspeed spindle when running the small tools
There was a company in the 90's that manufactured a 50,000 RPM 1/4 hp spindle that could be mounted to a machine tool via an R8 collet. I tried using one exclusively for two weeks but wasn't impressed with the results. Of course, the machine tools of the 90's could not deliver the feed rates required by high RPM spindles.
@@gaiustacitus4242 it would also only be for the small tools. like my 1mm carbide endmill with 25mm long reduced shank or my 0.5mm carbide drill where the feed of the machine i have in minde is way more then needed for those rpm's at those sizes
Not sure about the braking resistor in this little enclosure but otherwise neatly built
I have to build a balancer. They are actually pretty easy to build. You should build one.
9:00 ... Some FOC Controller or whatever it's called to allow you to tap holes and do magic
Good Video! Are you from Germany, because of your rolling "r". Not chanche, because i Sounds cool and as a not native english its perfekt to understand!!! Uhhh Festo nice!
Thanks for your work for us to show us good stuff. Greatings to all and stay safe!
What a fricken cool spindle!
2:09 It just came.
And your old spindle is still sitting idle in my living room, cause I still did´nt have the time to integrate it into my CNC 😩. Sorry Reps, I´m working on it 😁
Anyway, good luck and have fun with your new spindle
2:05 That thing tried spite on you!
The moment I knew I couldn’t afford one of these is when I saw the pallet on billet stock
One of our precision instruments for measuring the length of wool fibers included a keypad mount that started out as 24 in. x 6 in. x 6 in. (609.6 mm x 152.4 mm x 152.4 mm) aluminum bar. More than 85% of the aluminum was removed during the machining operations. Other materials and approaches had been tried but none proved adequate for producing a part that was required to aesthetically pleasing.
Of course, this part was manufactured by a company that produced its own keyboards (which were sealed to prevent entry of dust and water vapor) at a cost of $1,200 US in 1984 (more than $3,500 US in 2023 after adjusting for inflation). Quality was never compromised regardless of the expense.
Hyped for more cnc stuff
They should buy a desktop type CNC to carve out foam for the transport + 3 ply boxes at a minimum. That kind of upgrade might seem trivial, but it's the kind of thing that shows the customers that you aren't playing around (and it's better than perforated cardboard). This is a cheap upgrade that does a lot for the end experience of the person who purchases this jewel.
They avoided foam to be more environmentally friendly, plastic foam is terrible, it easily sheds particles that take hundreds of years to decay, and it can only be incinerated unless collected, sorted and then recycled. We need to limit the use of one time plastics, they really should not been seen as a standard.
To make it look better they could have used a wooden box with laser cut inserts inside to hold the tool securely. Though wood also has an environmental impact in the form of land use and disturbing forests.
You had me at 230V 2.2kw. Also those tool holders are sexy, just saying. P.P.S. wish my storage room was that tidy.
Nice to see the precision Doosan CNC from Korea. Hopefully in the future when Spinogy has more money, they can afford the top tier, ultra precision, yet affordable, machining centers from Jingdiao in China. 😂
When I want Chinese precision machine tools I turn to those manufactured in Taiwan. The quality of items manufactured in mainland China is hit or miss, and that goes for everything from the metal alloys used, to the dimensional accuracy of machined parts, and all the way down to simple things like connections for the wiring. Add to that the 30% import tariffs currently in effect within these United States on on a wide of range of goods from the PRC and the potential rewards don't outweigh the risks.
Gee, Marco... ONLY 50,000 RPM?? But, I guess that that is really humming for an electrical drive spindle...I did some consulting at a PCB manufacturer, and watched drills and mills running at 127,000 RPM, but I'm sure that those are air drive...
Building a balancer would be pretty cool... using optical sensor to correlate shaft position with accelerometer readings, FFTs to look at spectra, maybe incorporate an oscilloscope as the central measurement and analysis 'hub'...
My, my, my.... what a "christmas unboxing"!!
I need MOAR CNC!!! Please!!!
Finally more CNC content
Funnily, I was there just last week xD
Those guys are pretty awesome
It has been a life long goal to make a dynamic balancer! Please make that a open source project?
So for the home cnc, do you feel the Spinogy is a better choice over the Mechatron? I looked into the Mechatron after your video a few years back. 10K+ USD is a bunch.
Marco I'd watch a video on you changing a car tyre. Vibration meter and ATC videos would be sweet c:
There's a risk that I'm going to have an ATC before you. OK, although I'm using $$$$$ rather than actually MAKING one myself, and that's cheating, but the race is on! Props to Spinogy for *almost* letting you take that dynamic balancer apart.
Any transgression into *my* ATC niche will be understood as a deliberate provocation and might lead to me tinkering with microwaves in retribution! 😁
@@reps Heh heh!
Wow that is some sexy CNC spindle goodies !! In love at first sight :)
Did you build the tool changer yet ? ;)
3:55 - Please. please do. It's one of the major things missing from DIY. The last time I was searching around for info there was nothing.
Wow this is awesome! But is it just me that's concerned about those vent gaps on the side of the motor? What if some metal parts fly in there?
Those are holes for tightening the mounting screws - at 12:20 ish you can see the hangers in the back that line up with those holes. You'll also probably need to loosen them a bit if needed to adjust the tram.
can wait watching it works😍😍
Build a Tool Changer Marco !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5:23 - why are those prices stated in thousandths of a Euro? Anyway, less than 6 Euros is a great price for that X22 model even after considering the exchange rate. I'll take 10. (yes, I know, I'm just kidding)
Shit, if they were 6 Euros each I’d be importing them like a madman. 😆😆
I’m sure this has been asked before… Is the narration recorded or computer generated? There is a certain staccato nature of it which makes it hard to tell.
Neat to see a new startup!
Was that a dig at abom79?
Fun video! How's your magazine build going? ;)
Can't wait !!
Wait. No AvE safety labels? Certainly German officials would approve.
Are they making also LF, + HSK 63? Because the high frequency ones aren't that nice for steel.
3D printed tool changer for it? 😃
What happened to the mechatron spindle?
High speed spindle imbalance meter you say? We just built a t-slot frame test rig for high speed BLDC driven spindles running ISO20 tool changing .
That’s really super
All the components inside the control box are OMRON components.
Do it, do it, do it!
Can we start the tool changer bullying now?
We know this is serious business, because Marrrrco is rrrrroling his RRRRRRs.
Mom, I want one of those.
+1 for balance machine.
Tool changer pls.
Or do we need to find someone to sponsor you one for a video?
I never understood advertising expensive products. I feel most of us watching on most UA-cam channels can’t afford it. If it’s free then yeah but if they pay the UA-cam I can’t imagine it’s worth it.
Because we can learn about how the best things are made and how they are better, then we can either save up money or do a DIY project to make our own for cheap.
Still looking for a spindle that has good torque at 100 RPM
12:37 missed opportunity to say "perreps"
Me likes the adertiser juice!
10:37 I miss Jenna : (
Would like to order an X22 but they don"t seem to ship to the US and their English language site needs alot of work.
Thanks for your feedback. This helps us to get even better. We fixed some bugs on the English site.
We also ship to the US. There are some X22 in America 😊 if you have some issues by ordering via the shop write us an email.
Heller cnc used on heller factory to produce heller machine
Eve online thumbnail background.
Fly safe o7
Giant blue steaming Abom chips... lol.
Very nice! You really know people don't you?
These are very affordable for what you get, wow.
Ah jees you got expensive stuff again for free Nice video...
Straight up machineporn. When the Spindle is more expensive than your whole setup. Some better times in the future maybe....
Abom size good