@@immealldayeveryday9425 If pointing out the mistreatment, abuse and oppression of a company is killing my own career, then im all for it. Throw these girls anywhere else outside hybe and everyone would be open arms for them.
@@sarahstwart1653If members have given time to hybe till 25th sep , everyone is reporting that members have decided to terminate their contracts with hybe if they will not restore ador back. I think that's will be really good for newjeans, we don't want newjeans members to suffer through this extreme situation it's our fans priority to hope for members well , I will be more than happy if newjeans members gets normal life like idols back even if they will resign contract with other companies.
@@MHM6081 Google their contract termination penalty. Estimated between US$150 million to $350 million. They are not going anywhere except to Hybe dungeon.
@@MHM6081 and what exactly would they do after that. They'll be blacklisted and we both know what happens when someone gets blacklisted especially in korean ent. indystry
@@goldstay6469 yes, it is a matter of their careers. but these girls are talented and could still do well without MHJ being ceo but are now involving themselves in a situation where they didn’t need to be involved. In any case, this was MHJ way of trying to manipulate public opinion. I mean the set up is the exact same as MHJ did. The casual clothes, the somber vocal tone, it all looks like a setup. So yes, the girls are now being used in a fight that they should not have been put into in the first place. This entire thing should have stayed between Hybe and its executives and MHJ.
@@isabelladepietro2456make it make sense, they were involved in this since the beginning. Their entire medical history got leaked without their consent. They have all the right to step in and let everybody hear their side of the story.
Any Korean who is interested in K-pop knows Min Hee-jin. She produced Girls' Generation, SHINee, EXO, Red Velvet, NCT, and f(x). Many artists respect her. Producer Bang respected her, too. It was a good start, but she didn't follow his orders, which caused problems. Ador control was entirely up to her, so there was no reason to obey his command. He must have felt angry and inferior for not following his orders. You have no idea about them.
My thoughts are that it's weird. Weird that they have a specific date in their demand. Weird that they are fighting to remain in a company they don't trust and "tortures" the person they do trust. Weird that they think MHJ can ever be CEO again in a company she has already been found guilty of hating and attempting to sabotage. Weird that their descriptions of discrimination are very vague. And weird that they seem so wholly unaware of the difficulty MHJ has caused other HYBE groups that had nothing to do with anything. It all makes no sense. This grown woman turning to children for cover? I don't know what's going on, but I can't take their statements at face value. Something is up.
^ THAT. The specific date is odd, and the girls must have been made aware of some kind of deadline. They are used in a conflict they shouldn't be taking a part of
Someone said in 50/50’s case, they lost because they didn’t give the company 14 day notice of their intention to file a lawsuit. So they may be setting the groundwork to get out of their contract.
@@DaisyDee5610 the thing is, the Deadline they gave has nothing to do with their own contract, nor is it a formal notice for a law suit (which has to be written). This deadline was given for the sake of MHJ. So idk
I wish these girls had not done this. I know they think what they’re doing is right and that they’re standing up for themselves and someone they believe to be trustworthy / have their best interests at heart, but they are clearly being manipulated. I think both by Hybe and MHJ. They should have remained neutral, and if they wanted to make a public statement like this, done so through a lawyer reviewed letter. You cannot threaten and slander a big company like Hybe and it’s CEO and expect no legal action. This is definitely gonna end up as another fifty fifty scenario and it’s so sad to see.
They are not standing up for themselves at all their standing up for mhj it’s honestly scary how they talk about her….mhj talks about hybe being a cult but idk mhj created her own little one and has full control over them….this is not a normal ceo relationship you can tell they are manipulated 😬
Wait how are they being manipulated by HYBE again? Hybe has everything to loose in all this cases, they put money to create ADORE, they absorbed the debt the girls created when MHJ took them from Source music, The investment of Hybe in source music went to shit when the MHJ took them to ADOR by forcing source music to debut a half ass trained group (Lesserafim) just to remain on schedule. After that MHJ tries to stage a internal coup to steal ADor from under hybe, also paid smear campaings in the media for the remaining groups including BTS and HYBE stock plummet. Now this company literally has to clean the mess the woman made by trying to salvage what they can, (which is not much considering that this girls are refusing to cooperate for their own sake)... I mean if I was a HYBE investor i'd be pissed, not looking for ways to manipulate them , i'd be looking for ways to get rid of them all they are a LIABILITY. This whole mess is a dumspter fire, manipulation means that you need something from someone and you are whiling to do anything to get it, but in reality this big ass company does NOT need this group. ... but MHJ does.
Remain neutral?? Bruh Hybe is mistreating them and icing them out- not inviting them to events, not putting anything on their calendars- are they just supposed to sit there & twiddle their thumbs and take the BS?!?? Noooo they fighting back and damn brave for it!
Sad thing is , as far I've heared MHJ was also trying to hurt other groups (?) . If it's true then no wonder the parent company doesn't trust her . Plus , they are still under Hybe , what if they stops giving them any comebacks ? That would be horrible . @@madysonclaeys6934
Having whole bunch teens telling a corporation how to run a business is unheard of. MHJ totally orchestrated this since what would a bunch of teens know, especially when they have been manipulated by MHJ. It's mind-blowing that they and their parents don't care how MHJ talked trash about them behind their backs. Without HYBE privilege, they wouldn't get all the things they do now. MHJ didn't use a dime of her money to creat NJ.
@@camlee2341if bts defended nj as they are now, that would mean defending mhj, and why would they want to do that considering all that she has done and said
By how they acting supporting the actions of corporate espionage and hurting other groups. If it was me… Being ignored is the nicest thing she will get from me.
Okay u get ignored and been told directly how its a HYBE problem? Why dont she ask the manager instead? Like i understand the manager more for not letting his artist to be in contact with someone who actively voice out their disappointment toward the company.. to avoid rumors ofc..
@@yen-8680so did hybe prove corporate espionage because the courts definitely didn't think so. instead of providing any legally significant proof of any misconduct all they've done so far is to wage s shady smear campaign with misinformation.
@@yen-8680 Theyre being mistreated even predebut lol. Imagine the only person protecting you was gone and now you have to deal all the company mistreatment? Dont dimiss NJ experience.
@@사가지늑대 watch the live and they actually cried for help in new Ador's management and hybe but they are ignored and right there they asked themselves who can now they trust
I was planning on dropping my business course before the drama exploded. Now I don’t regret it cause it feels easier to understand half of the situation 🙂↕️
They talking about trust??? Like how trustworthy mhj planning a coup to steal from her boss and bully other groups? Their definition of trust is so selfish… like “i can bully you but you cannot defend yourself from me hurting you.”
True! And why would any agency trust them considering how they have acted publically. Right or wrong I’m not saying but no agency globally will take them. I can’t see a backer backing MHJ either after the way she has acted. It’s not even a deadlock. They just opened another hatch on the Titanic. Ummm ok.
May I ask how mhj planned or staged said coup? Is there any factual evidences for this? Since the last time I saw fit Hybe is not a good company and function shadily like other companies and mhj tried hard to shed light to her story (as social media portrayed the situation) so I just wanted to ask in full detail of such as to why now the tide is turning against mhj when the start of said issue everyone was siding with her and how said issue has gotten to this point
Honestly, doesn't sound like they decided to do this on their own. If they did, brave of them for speaking up. Don't know if another group was told not to talk to them, but it would make some sense, I mean you don't want your group pulled into the drama. Though not fair to the girls either. I think it's weird they think they can demand of hybe to bring her back. That seems a little over confident in where they stand in the company. They are young. Probably not the best decision on their part.
@ranjanajoshi4750 okay? So are you saying they clearly did it on their own because they wrote down what they wanted to say? Or that someone wrote down what to say for them? Sorry, the comment wasn't really clear for me. I have written scripts for myself, for videos, and have followed others scripts . I get that a script to you means it is one or the other, I'm just not sure which one you were trying to point out :) Thanks :)
They mentioned in the very beginning that they are doing this w/o any force, so don't make assumptions without any evidence. They said this is significantly affecting their lives, so they are standing for themselves in the way.
Absolutely. The girls have been groomed and brainwashed by MHJ that they can't see what's bad and good. If they were adults, this would've been avoidable to some extent.
@@shineeverse i m talking about debut age..understand the context first..and minji & all r thoroughly brainwashed by that problematic women already so now even if she is 20 25 doesnt matter ...damage is already done.. Well there r some mature idols under 18 as well ..sorry to u guys actually u nice keep going..i m talking about most of those are immatures and take time to understand. things and like this brainwashed by opportunist like MHJ.. Well Shaman had already said to MHJ to select these girls bcuz they wont create problems for her no wonder
@@Siiaa1297 shaman probably knew that these girls will follow min hei jin's rules no matter what 🫠 , and the fact that new jeans thinks that they are nothing without their ex CEO 😭 like girls ya all r talented and can do things without ur ex CEO the world's not gonna end without her yk
Srsly? Do you think they're too young to understand or to make decisions? So what do you call those ADULT manager who said < Ignore her...> and the new CEO < who thinks Hanni is just lying when she's relaying what happened in 4th floor > .. those adults who act childish in front of these young ladies. Remember age isn't a basis of how knowledgeable you are.
Ughhhhhh so young people shouldn't speak out for themselves even when they are treated really badly. Is that what you're saying? People like you are the reason why they had to come out to say things. People like you are the reason why "young" they had to be so brave from their fear. Be a better adult before you say what young people can do or not.
@@slkeiwjflldskj that's why some call them 'brave but unwise.' yes, it's undoubtedly more honourable to stand up for yourself but there are just some circumstances that require long term consequences. If they're not under hybe maybe it's alright, the problem here is that they are still under hybe which means hybe hold decisions that will affect their future. They should learn to be neutral instead.
They are deceived into thinking they have the power to demand anything especially restoring mhj. This makes me believe that these girls and their parents are under a spell set by mhj and her shaman because I don't think any parent in their right mind will support someone who insulted, their children the degree mhj did. She doesn't even acknowledge their talents and she's now using them as pawns I pity them and the parents who support them.
@@maggie198333 Definitely, that's what I've been saying since this mess began. MHJ really ran ADOR like a cult and her personality is like what a cult-leader exudes such as her arrogance, narcissism, psychological manipulation and gaslighting, not to mention her frequent consultations with her Shaman bestie, lol 😰
If not for MHJ, Hybe would never have taken interest in them. MHJ created NJ from recruitment to concept to promotion. She may not be easy to work with (allegedly), but no one can deny her impact on the industry for more than 2 decades.
MHJ never dragged other groups? Her issue was BeLift and Source. The only times LSF was brought up was when she was explaining the debut timeliness. She also said she had no issues with ILLIT, just eith BeLift
I do feel for the girls, but they have no one else to blame BUT their precious (former) CEO Min HeeJin who started all of this in the first place due to her greed; had MHJ not wanted to take over ADOR etc, we wouldn't be here. Unfortunately, it's pretty clear they've been manipulated by her and the fact that they're still too young/naive & inexperienced in the business side of kpop, they acted on their emotions instead of their head. Honestly, they're in no position to demand these things as their so-called "mistreatment" does not merit anything this big... They should've gotten a lawyer FIRST before putting out this statement (although, they may have... we dont know what's happening behind the scenes). Also, they're obviously trying to hurt HYBE and make the company look bad, which isn't going to go over well with BTS & their fans & other HYBE artists' fans, and esp. not the sharholders (which I'm sure BTS members have a stake in the company...)... this is going to get messy. Yikes
Ladies and gentleman, say goodbye to new jeans, cause there is no way that they will allow them to do any comebacks now Edit: could people stop fighting in the comments? Stop bringing other groups down and comparing situations, grow up
Bye new jeans..it's obvious tht they love min hee jin as their mentor..but she didn't care Abt group..her vision only was take over hybe..nj.. should not have done this..
I heard on the channel, “Korean Pizza Club,” there are several agencies that would snatch NJ up in a heartbeat. You can’t compare them to 50/50 as NJ has a wide fandom and a few years in the industry already. With that being said, I would think it would be a fatality for any agency to include MHJ as part of the package 😅.
Do you think NewJeans members will sit still? They stood up against Hybe for mistreatment and ustability, only PiGS like you will keep on sprouting nonsense like that lmfao. The entire nation is against Hybe now, Newjeans is Korea’s representative group atp, we bunnies won’t sit still 😂😂
the fact that they still believe they cannot go on without MHJ should be grounds for an investigation in itself the purpose of a mentor or “parent” as she prefers, is to teach your “children” the skills to grow and thrive WITHOUT YOU in the “real world” if a child’s growth is stunted to the point they cannot function that would be 100% abuse (e.g. gypsy rose before committing murder LOL) their biological parents continue to show their failure in raising these women right
You need to go watch the live. HYBE doesn’t look out for them when that’s literally their job. One of NewJean members tried telling the new CEO about the manager who told another idol to ignore her and the CEO accused her of lying. When an artist/idol is under a label, they need to have someone to look out for them because they’re competing with many other artists/idols. Now let’s add on how young them members of newjeans are, they’re not being taken seriously enough to have creative control even though they had it when MHJ was in charge. You seriously need to watch the stream because it sounds like you didn’t or else you would get it.
@miakaelvira9556 I agree with you 💯 It just seems that they have been treated so unfairly that they had to speak out on this situation. And I'm really proud of them for doing that. Hope that they can continue doing what they do in this field because this is the first time a kpop group has spoken out. I'm scared for them but will support them no matter what happens
@@miakaelvira9556 while I don’t expect you to agree and im not trying to change your mind, for me, going on camera was eerily similar to MHJ first press conference which served to generate (in this case solidify) public sympathy and opinion im not going to argue about the “ignore her” issue because it’s completely unacceptable from everyone involved yes, they should have people looking out for them, which is why it’s hard to grasp why they (and their parents and also MHJ) would openly want to stay under HYBE via ADOR instead releasing a statement via lawyer and fighting to end their contracts if they genuinely believe they have a case?
@@cmbts7 They said her place is irreplaceable for she is integral part of newjeans tone, music, creative production. They never said they are nothing without her. They are happy with the ador team before but HYBE replaced staffs and now interfering with a director they worked with. I dont understand why yall think you know their lives better than them. If you watched the live and you only heard abt MHJ and not anything else… you’re the brainwashed one.
@@miakaelvira9556 dude the other group could've been illit or lesserafim. Do you not know the damage MHJ has done to these groups with her accusations? Why would they still want to interact with a group that worships mhj? And another idol not saying hi is the base of "mistreatment" for new jeans, especially after everything that has happened.... Those girls are seriously privileged.
Crazy. I am still of the belief that they were definitely manipulated by MHJ and Hybe. I don't think minors should be trainees or in the entertainment industry at all. I don't blame the girls for doing what they did and they probably believe what they are doing is right. I don't think it's right for Hybe to treat them this way but MHJ is obviously nuts, too. Would probably be best for all the girls to get out of the industry and get psychological help for the way they've been treated.
Thing is other minors have thrived in similar or worse situations ( no comment on whether it’s right or wrong it’s their lives) - but not everyone is suited for the entertainment industry and not everyone has the support system to thrive. I think NJs fall in the category of people who are not suited for the industry at that age.
brave of them for going against hybe. It won't be surprising if they have a downfall (they already getting) and be kicked out of hybe. I personally think Min Heejin told them to do this as she only thinks about herself.
Po tem dogodku, Hyb bo trdno imel dekleta do zaključka pogodbe in mislim, da je to do leta 2029! Ja dekleta so si same skopale jamo, kjer ne bo izhoda!
and? that's probably the least of their concern right now living amongst hostile people!! Stop going through item by item, u talked about their career, such a sore loser you are!
Its their right to speak up but to demand alot of impossible things and even defamed HYBE in the process is a BIG NO NO. I think NJ in a great problem. Its either they makin this big issue with some weapon behind their back or just want to get attention from the fans media so they could get away from HYBE without paying the penalty (courts involved) for mistreatment.
@@KsenijaHajdu-x3glol don’t worry, bunnies will fight! Surprisingly filthy rats like you will support Companies rather than the Artist lol. Just because your favourite group is in the company doesn’t mean that they are the best. Hybe must reconsider before it’s too late, losing NewJeans is a big loss and we bunnies won’t just stay.
I can't think any other Kpop group that is so linked with their CEO. Usually when you think of people behind a group, it is the company, not a certain person. MHJ is doing everything she can to link herself to the group, so that she can rely on NJ and their fanbase to support her. Anything negative about MHJ can also be seen as an attack on NJ. Judging by her actions I do not think she cares about the members, only about what is beneficial for her.
@@gyrthez246they don't have such relationship. BTS got to say bang shi hyuk as their brother just few years ago and they also know how big a thing it is and they respect it . They are way more mature then this NJ and mhj scenario things .
BTS has a better relationship with Pdogg and their first manager who helped them financially than with Bang PD. It's true that sometimes they meet up for dinner, but that's literally what JYP does with JYPE groups and it's nothing extraordinary. No one calls anyone father or does not see a future without that person. BTS is just loyal. Even groups from other companies are meeting with Bang PD for a meal. Even considering Somi is besties with Teddy (her CEO and producer) she never said any of the same things NJ says about MHJ. NJ doesn't see their worth without MHJ. @@gyrthez246
@@gyrthez246BTS abd BSH do have a close relationship. They built Hybe together. However, BSH does not manipulate BTS members. BSH tries to inspire them to become the greatest and authentic artists that they can be. MHJ manipulates NJ members into believing that can't do anything without her, the reason they are so dependent on her. Pretty narcissistic isn't it.
Who else is tired of this bs?? To be honest, the girls should have kept quiet until their contracts ended because they are now gonna be put in the basement and unfortunately they can possibly end up being blacklisted like what happened with Ailee and her company I can't believe people. THIS IS JUST MY OPINION 😂😂
Are you srs rn? What they did was incredibly courageous, unlike a lot of other groups who think that this problem will resolve on its own, they took actions into their own hands. Stepping on what they did and saying they should’ve kept quiet is disgusting. Sure, you’re tired of this crap, we ALL are, but the ones that have it the roughest are the NewJeans members themselves. If they hadn’t done this, and just left the work to the “adults” the fact that the situation would resolve itself would’ve been highly unlikely. They did THIS to help out their fans, to try and at least HELP the damn situation. So stop spitting on what they did and try to appreciate it, because what they did also partially ruled in our favor.
@@MiniYuuKi No, the person who has it roughest is the ex-ADOR employee who had to file a criminal sexual assault lawsuit against ADOR. That isn't even HYBE vs ADOR anymore, that's ADOR literally treating one of their own like garbage. The multi-millionaire girls living in one of the nicest condos in Seoul aren't the ones who have it the worst. They could live off their riches for years at this point.
@MiniYuuKi as if it's gonna help the situation, but ok, all I see is it's gonna get worse for the poor girls, it's happened before, and especially considering hybe has more money and power
uh just say u didn't watch the live. hyein literally says in the beginning that she doesn't want people to spout some weird comments saying mhj told them to do this, even though she knows they will. like you have :)
@@Yoonji9212 I checked that translation, and it's not bad (not perfect). However, I can't reliably watch that video as an honest translation because of the snide remarks the translator continuously makes towards the statements the members say during the video. Also, the fact that they're a hybe group review channel, and their channel banner includes all of HYBE's kpop groups except new jeans? Seems like a biased source to me
I would do the same to someone who created a whole hate train against my group and media play against me .After all the things they did how can hanni expect everyone to be lovey dovey with her ?? i am surprised by her entitlement ngl.
Did you hear at the end that they legit gave HYBE a deadline like sorry you might be a big group but you don´t threaten a BIG COMPANY no matter how big you are, you'll get crushed. Also, them standing up for mhj is just stupid at this point
Lovey dovey? I belong to the same fandom as you but for GODS SAKE aint no one sending hate trains to BTS... i dont understand why my fandom is so easily manipulated by hybe?? Like they do a little mis-match of story to make us have their backs attacking mhj and we follow right into their palms?? And hanni asked for literal basic human rights. Everyone deserves to be treated humanely another group respected her presence htheir they gretted "hi" To eachother already and the manager says right onto her face " Iignore her" No she hasnt done nothing wrong they respect BTS too i just hope one day you can actually open your eyes and see what actually goes on instead of simply supporting anyone who who manipulates into it.... WE STAN BTS NOT HYBE
@bruhbro-zg7gh true they should have said it personally in a perfect world but maybe they really wanted her to hear it so she also sees how upset others are with her and the group and mhj and what has been done? Sometimes people say things out loud cause they can't even say it to them cause they just won't understand or spin that narrative instead.
Why do people keep ignoring the elephant in the room which is minheejin was removed for doing illegal things like insider trading, spreading false rumours about other innocent hybe groups including bts, and trying to cover up a sexual harassment scandal in her company??? I feel bad for new jeans sure but minheejin deserved to be fired 100%. And secondly it makes sense the manager told the group to not interact and ignore her. They have been openly supporting minheejin after she openly defamed and started insane levels of hate campaigns against all other hybe groups just out of greed, obviously no one wants to associate with them after that whole mess. I hope newjeans heal and realise they dont need a misogynist and greedy bully like min heejin to survive, they arent talentless like she claims and they can stand on their own two feet
Yall realise its an awful thing if an artists/groups entire trust is in one ceo right.. No ceo should be "irreplaceable". The artist should have their own identity. In mhjs leaked texts we saw her say the new jeans girls are fat, have no talent, and only successful because of her. Its a shame that it seems the new jeans girls themselves have started to believe this. If this isnt corporate grooming idk what is. Her leaving is the best thing to happen to them even if they cant see it yet !!
Those chats are proved to be edited in court like seriously the judges even criticised hybe and ruled in MHJ favour still you all believe some rumours about her without knowing the facts by that logic hybe has done so much more shady things against nj
corporate grooming is all the bts members refusing to accept the abuse bang pm put them through when he had jungkook doing a sexy concept as a child and working them to the point they were passing out on stage. what about bang pd on record saying to crush aespa next comeback?? everything is selective with y’all. You hate one problematic person but you’re gonna support another one??
but the thing is HYBE is a very big company rn and has so much power to do things like wipe off someone or some incident like it had never happened before or ban someone out of spotlight forever. The members chose to do things that are not smart at all. BSH will never let MHJ step in again that’s for sure cuz they couldn’t even set the agreement at the first place. All MHJ think about is money and income disadvantage that she wants to separate ADOR from HYBE but BSH won’t let it happen. Even if Newjeans members leave the company, and go to MHJ, their idol careers would still be over just like Jessica Jung (SM), who can’t even appear on the television.
Well seems like everyone is tryna paint hybe as the bigger evil when mhj is right there too. FYI not so long ago chat were supposedly leaked and there it was found that she called the newjeans members fat and dumb. I also remember Mhj making a very creepy comment on her live conference about how Minji was prettier when she was young like... so creepy. But hey everyone quickly forgot about all that. P.S their so call beloved Ceo they tryna defend so hard is also embroiled in "s**ual harrasment issue'' Defending and actively supporting such a controversial person.... those girls 🤦♀
imagine an employee think they have the power to pick who gonna be their ceo and even have the audacity to put dateline for it...this is just plain ignorant but then again these girls just teens didnt know the reality yet...not to mention them doing this literally blackmail/threaten the company which is not a good image for these girls
@@wh98412 sue hybe for? if ppl talk about mistreatment...the girls not gonna get a nice luxury dorm tho...do u ever see when the girls do live at their dorm? not to mention others benefit the girls get too...these girls going rebel right now because they cant be independent without mhj...mhj literally control them
One of the girls said something like “I don’t really understand the situation and I don’t know if I have to”. They’re content in being ignorant airheads.
I don't know about hybe but min hee jin will always be wrong for me no matter what this horrible women does she'll never be a good person for sure and i hope the girls get what they want and continue in a healthy way
Its proven in the court that the company conversation leaks from HYBE against MHJ are edited. And now can you trust everything that HYBE says against MHJ if they can manipulate evidence? All I know is to trust NJ. NJ know all the shit that goes on the company predebut until now and if NJ believes its HYBE's fault and it is really HYBE.
@@shrishtishrivastava5007 she made the girls step in themselves and also started massive h*te train against other artists like aespa, illit and le sserafim 💀
Fifty fifty girls were oversmart New jeans girls are undersmart Both trying to defy authority without understanding its implications like little children
If you work for someone then you have to know the term and conditions of an employee and employer. You don’t go livestream to demand things from your employer.
They aren't pretending, they simply know the consequence of taking an initiative where you aren't supposed to take an initiative. The gist of it is that you should know your place, especially in a business-related situation. Get it? This isn't rocket science so you shouldn't be commenting on how people "pretending" to be a lawyer or some shit like that.
@@zuriatiabdullah7347 this is them giving informal notice to HYBE that they will be suing for contract termination on the 26th. This video and it's demands were not for Hybe but for the public - it's softens the blow of the termination lawsuit if they state they are being mistreated, give Hybe time to "make amends" (knowing it won't happen), and then be "forced" to sue. It's funny that y'all think these girls are dumbasses when it's clear they know what they are doing and have a plan. Even if this was MHJs idea (which they explicitly deny), they are going in with their eyes wide open. Frankly I applaud their hutzpah
I'm glad they spoke out but at the same time So NJ we're basically sold the MHJ storyline. They don't know what discrimination means with Korean Societal norms in mind while considering the definition of "the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of on the grounds of ethnicity, age, sex, or disability." If the Managers are telling their groups not to speak to NJs there has to be a reason and they don't realize that MHJ has been isolating them from other groups. If it was a Boy Group we all know how companies like to separate GGs from BGs to avoid scandals. Also their so called mother promised their family kick backs which is up in flames now.
Why are you just assuming that they wouldnt understand korean sociatel norms? 3 of them have been born and raised there, all of them have lived and worked there long enough to understand such norms and regulations between BG and GG. Even with those things in mind, I dont think it would even matter since it happened inside of a private space of Hybe so it wouldnt have any influence on outside perspectives if they were to be able to great each other. To even think that there might be an instance in which it would be okay to tell a group to ignore a certain other person is crazy ngl. This is so obvious a matter of discrimination in a overall sense. Just because your googled definition wouldnt classify it as such doesnt mean it isnt. Also it wasnt mentioned here but in the Live, what really makes this incident bad is that NJ went to their new CEO with this story to resolve it privately but they made it out like Hanni was just lying to them and they didnt take any action to resolve the situation.
@@odi9974these people are so annoying. Creating narratives to preserve their takes on the story when NJ themselves are speaking the contrary. Internet is just tiring, and this is one of the reasons why the girls had stood up and spread their views on the matter.
Any Korean who is interested in K-pop knows Min Hee-jin. She produced Girls' Generation, SHINee, EXO, Red Velvet, NCT, and f(x). Many artists respect her. So does Lee Soo-man of SM. Producer Bang respected her, too. It was a good start, but she didn't follow his orders, which caused problems. Ador control was entirely up to her, so there was no reason to obey his command. He must have felt angry and inferior for not following his orders. You have no idea about them.
@@TYC365If Ador's control was entirely up to her, she wouldn't have planned to take over. Yes, she was the CEO but there was a higher authority which she didn't respect but wanted. If those people respect her so much why didn't she stay with them or go back to them. Anyways, didn't she have issues with SM which made her leave?
Hahahahahahaha these girls think this is high school 😅😅😅 I remember when I was in elementary school and my the leader older girl would make his little minions talk on her behalf when she would get in trouble.
They are digging their own grave by doing this ..... They are not getting it now but when they realised they are manipulated everything will be over by then and that time their respected ceo or "mother"will do anything to help them......... And how can their parents let them do this .....like are they not concerned about their children future and let them supporting min hee jin ....... Instead stopping their daughters and give them the right advice ...... How can their parents ruin their own children future
I think they should've kept their mouths closed. MHJ should also have advised that. They should've kept their heads down, worked to get a few more albums out until enough scandals had taken the news cycle and attempted a breakaway. I believe MHJ has the sliminess of an eel to have accomplished that. With the fifty-fifty scandal so similar to their own, they should've watched and learned from their outcome. I don't particularly endorse Hybe, but I do find MHJ 's brand of villainy fascinating.
its better to address the problems, so some change will happen. Even if they do end up in a worse situation, at least they have actually spoken and done something.
My question is this. MHJ has been removed as CEO of Ador. However, has she been removed from Ador altogether? Last I checked, no. She is still in charge of all creative aspects, so I'm not understanding what the big production is about. MHJ is no longer in charge of management, but the girls still get to work with her for music, for concept art, probably even for MV filming. So I'm not understanding why the six of them are causing such a ruckus over her not being in charge of the company as a whole. MHJ staged a battle and lost. She can't attempt a hostile takeover and then get upset when she has to deal with the repercussions.
Please do elaborate why and how MHJ “staged” this whole incident? It just baffles me especially how hard she fought to get her story to light (basing off on what and how social media portrayed said situation)
If they really want to be MHJ. Go follow her they are brave enough to do a live then they must have a hefty sum of money to pay and break their contracts. They can be free and have their own company with MHJ and start again.
Every group have different personal staff for their group only so whatever was said by the manager of the other group isn't hybe wholly even if its the case and she felt bad what min heejin has done to other groups is wayy more than what was done to newjeans all together
Exactly they were just ignored because they probably don’t want their groups involved and whose to say that the group wasn’t the one mhj talked about can you blame the manager for wanting to see them from mhj and her minions? Unfortunately everyone knows mhj has control of NewJeans and knows how to use and manipulate them can’t blame them for wanting to stay away from them…I do feel bad for the girls tho I wish their parents were smart enough to actually care for them and protect them…especially since mhj did this to herself
These kids officially ruin their lives. I really hope they are strong enough to handle everything. Soo dumb i mean MHJ is the reason soo many groups suffer but when NJ are suffering themselves but have zero remorse for others. Still siding with MHJ . They Forgot their job as an artist it to create music not drama
They r not small kids, they r kids of college age...If they are mistreated n abuse they can sue the company n get out of the company without paying fined if the company is found guilty... MHJ was not remove from the company but they act like she is removed...she was demoted not fired... But they don't hve right to demand hype to put mhj back to ceo, she hve been found guilty of some crimes... NJ members are bully n their parents r bully too...Who gave them money and resources for their success? Who is paying them? Who invested in them? Who gave them opportunity ? Who r the board members? They accused others of copying them but did they not also copy other previous girl group (with proved) ...Do they own y2k? Did they create y2k? Did they forget that mhj is a middleman in a business world...? Did they forget that mhj is like a caretaker of Ador n the real owner is hype? It was not nj members fight to begin with... It was an internal power struggle between mhj n hype...NJ members should have stayed neutral in this...This powers struggle would not have affect them as they were successful group n hype would not want to lose them...But they r interfering in matters that could displease their real bose...Who would like if a group is helping to overthrow you n snatch your company? Anyone?
Waiting for them to do the FA part so they can know what the FO part is about. This isn't a playground. Hybe's all about doing things legally as adults should do.
I liked their music but after watching these videos I won't support them anymore. They're immature young adults who tolerate a criminal. Granted they could be brainwashed or groomed but I dont wanna waste my time in such people.
They really are little girls. Especially when you are a trainee, the world around you is very small, you don't see much of life and all that has to offer. They are living inside a bubble
HYBE existed before New Jeans and they’ll be okay after them. They’re starting to leave a BAD taste in my mouth. The way they cling to this lady is sick and unprofessional. I would take the hit and cut ties with them as well.
also considering they so conveniently decide to ignore that why she was demoted of her ceo position? first she breached the trust & contract with hype which is like ok shitty, but not uncommon for people to get money hungry. but there is other case going about how she tried to hush an employee who came out about her SA experience & told her to go unalive herself for making a "fuss" over it. The girls arent kids anymore, they are old enough to attend college, how do they think mhj would be nice to them when she did that to other women? or are they so selfish that they dont care what trouble others went through & only want their wisehs to come true cuz they cant work under other ceo??????
New jeans need to leave cause I’m sick of them and MHJ, this disrespect has gone on way to long, of your so unhappy then pay up to get out your contract and leave
@@kopii00 clearly you missed all the shit MHJ has font not only that but she literally started the whole dam problem, crazy part is she stole new jeans entire concept even there name to make things worse she is being accused of sexual assault!!! So the question is do you mean you support MHJ cause eeewww 🤮
@@immealldayeveryday9425 you know hybe LAUGHED and mocked newjeans ditto song? You know hybe wanted newjeans to fail from the very beginning right? You seem to talk highly as if you know but you do not. You may not like min heejin but you must be fucking STUPID to like a million dollar company that has overworked and harassed their idols. Have you seen how tired enhypen has been recently? Hybe does not care but mhj Did in fact care about the girls, regardless if she started this drama that you call pointless when in fact she was fighting for the girls rights within the comoany thay mistreatmented them. You’re the ew one here
@@kopii00 it’s crazy that new jeans expect HYBe to leave MHJ as CEO when she literally betrayed HYBE is absolutely unrealistic, they wanna talk about their treatment but what about MHJ actions that brought a lot of hate to innocent KPOP groups, if they liked it so much before then why the hell did MHJ start all of this to begin with, not only that but they blatantly lied in this video, Dani said MHJ produces their music which she absolutely does not
New Jeans is the first group since T-ara to take their feud to the social networks. Does everybody remember how that worked out? NJ members have been far more spoiled than any other KPOP group. They should be sent home for a very long hiatus.
@aouzayr24 hybe gave them the platform and spoon fed them all the luxury of idol life. Eachother support? 😂 All they are supporting right now is the groomer mhj who's using them for her selfish interest after doing multiple fuckups. Any sensible individual can make out what's going on here. Fan base won't serve credibility when everything mentioned above is revoked by hybe.
Wow that is a huge. That said it sure does seem like MHJ is a manipulative narcissist, but of course I don’t know her personally. The feeling I get is one of her using cult leader like techniques to create loyalty / stockholm syndrome tendencies. Crazy that NJ did this though.
Agree, their attachment to her is not normal nor natural. That's for sure. It is okay to be on good terms with your boss/director but what the heck is this...
If they are being mistreated then they should sue hybe and let the court decide and let them leave the company for free without the penalty..find yourself a place you wont be mistreated and given the top floor and luxurious apartments😊..in my opinion if they dont do that i do not believe a single word out of their mouth and i hope they face the repercussions of their actions with great force ..also the manager thing i would totally do the same thing ..maybe not say it out loud but my group would definitely be banned from interacting with NJ
@@miakaelvira9556 probably for the best ..if it's really proved to be mistreatment then I hope they leave without the penalties but if it's just stuff like the "CEO didn't say hie" then that's another story
@@yonomi333 I could have said hope you get an ungrateful employee who will sue you to the ground for providing them with too much privileges but I'm all for peace and love so I won't say it 😊
These girls asked for "humanity" for mhj, but at the same time they have no humanity for 2 newjeans predebut members who mhj ruined over shaman words, no humanity for ILLIT they signed petition against, no humanity for other hybe idols she attacked, no humanity for ador SA victim
@@JH-bb8in Forget about humanity they are playing victims card everytime and do bratty things to provoke hybe everytime and they expect staff to hold flowers for them they know your sh*t and it is good they are telling other artists to maintain distance dont know what mhj do to target them again..they are no fvcking kids they r very clever and tokkies their so called fans well mhj was right once when she said they r fvcking stupid kids calling themselves fans..Atleast have some self respect
What if its their only way to get out from HYBE? They're not kids. I dont think theyre stupid at this point I think theyre going all out and know the consequences. It means the situation is really worst cause NJ already speaks up. There are stories that NJ did not disclosed. What they shared are surface level. NJ knows their career trajectory and what would happen to them. So I guess either way to speak up or just be ignored forever.
so if you get harassed at work, you just going to swallow it and pretend nothing happens? they are doing this because keeping silent is not going to change anything, what else can you do? accept to be shelved or suck balls? at least, this is going to get them somewhere
@@moodindemandthey should have spoken from the very start. Why only now? To defend MHJ? If MHJ is really trust worthy, she should have separated her self from HYBE from the very beginning and take those NJ with her if she really cares about since like what they said even before debut they were already discriminated. I don't trust HYBE, but I also don't trust NJ and MHJ. They all have ulterior motives.
They have the right to speak out and share their perspective on the situation and make requests regarding their career. It doesn't mean they actually think they'll get their way. When artists speak out like this it's more to get public support and understanding. They may feel stuck and unsure what to do next so this was a bit of a last resort. I wouldn't be so judgemental towards them. Hybe and Mhj didn't treat them right and now they have no one.
This is very unprofessional of them, this could have been done behind closed doors. They should know the backlash they're going to receive. They should also consider the other groups that were literally the punching bags because of the feud between MHJ and hybe.
Cinderella's "Mother Figure" was all lovey dovey until the father died. Then Evil step mother showed her real personality ( mean, selfishness, greed, arrogance). Except that in this story, there will be no Prince Charming. This is the real world! They think the grass is greener somewhere else, let them go, after they reimburse every scent spent on them!
MHJ trying to get Ador removed from Hybe & NJ and now demanding that Hybe has to returns Ador "to how it was before" is peak comedy. Sucks for NJ, but they have to get that MHJ brainwashing out of themselves
What?? They threatened bang shi hyuk to appoint min hee jin as a CEO by 25 September. I just want to say, girls this is too much now, at least think before talk and stop dancing as a puppet of your so called mother mhj
And i also don't understand how blind u have to be to not see how mhj talk abt newjeans behind thier back and plan literally Shaman stuff for other grps. Plz seek therapy ASAP. That pedo is grooming these poor girls and mhj puppets like u and the girls themselves don't see it. Sad. @linealie
MHJ trained these girls well.. to be Entitled narcissists🤬 They really think they’re High & Mighty demanding BangPD/ HYBE for apologies & reinstating MHJ as CEO. WOW ..they got nerves of steel
These kids have been completely brainwashed by their so called mother and I feel bad for them. Not that hybe is any better but if they want to talk about injustice then bullying and harassing other groups and backstabbing your own company (which their mother did) is not fine either.
@@wooliduuli again I know hybe is not innocent either but what I am trying to say is that these girls have to realise that all this started in the first place because min heejin decided to backstab the parent company. Had she refrained herself from all this and went on with the contract, none of this would have even happened in the first place. Why would a company trust an employee again who once tried to sabotage it. Why would they give her that CEO status again knowing very well how it can backfire on them once she gets her power back.
@@wooliduuli Also the manager incident, I know anyone of us in hannis position would have felt so bad if someone said that to us but at the same time how can you expect respect from the same groups that your CEO has been openly sh*tting upon in media, when you have clearly decided to be on your ceos side.🤷🏻♀️
@@wooliduuli what help tho? we dont know entirely how the new management is but what they did mention was all about mhj, she did this and that for us, well shes no longer ceo so you just have to deal with new changes, i think they wanna pin the new ceo to be evil and mean and shit but do they not get theyre literally her job too? she wont make money and nobody in ador will if newjeans arent successful, they just want cooperation and if they have to ignore their harmful intention then so be it
4/5 are adults, they're grown ass women, stop infantalising them to take away the blame and responsibility, these are not little girls, they know what they're dping
Literally so many fanbases are into this one all because of Min Heejin Kanyesque rant blasting Illit, Le Sserafim, BTS, and other girl groups. If u support Heejin, then u twisted😂 In the end it’s her fault for doing this to herself and Newjeans… She thought she was so powerful by making Newjeans and got an ego thinking she can breakaway from Hybe, and the plan failed. Now, Newjeans messing with Hybe? This is definitely something that could’ve been resolved INTERNALLY, but like MHJ, took it to the public 😂
Where were they when their mother was defaming these groups? If i was in one of these groups I wouldn't even greet them. Demanding from Hybe as if they own it just like how min he jin forgot Adore is not actually hers.
I'm sorry but I would do the same if I was a group manager. Like I wouldn't want my group to interact with a group whose CEO has no problem inciting hate and harassment on other groups
Lmao. No, it’s not normal behavior. Ya’ll petty AF. Are you guys in middle school? Grow TF up, be mature, and greet people at your workplace. By not greeting someone at work and telling them to ignore someone else at work then YOU are the one creating a toxic and unhealthy work environment. YOU should the one getting reprimanded for that, not the person who got ignored because they spoke up about it.
That’s a dumb way of thinking. MHJ allegedly have done those things, not NewJeans. None of this is NewJeans fault and yet they’re being treated like it is. That’s the problem
these girls are throwing their own career away for a CEO who probably doesn't care about them. they are young and naive, easily persuaded by her nice words but at the end of the day, someone being nice to you does not excuse all their other wrongdoings. they're her project to make money, that's it which they're confusing for kindness. i feel for them and hope they realise these things sooner than later.
I think New Jeans should start thinking more about themselves and their future rather than making demands which are just impossible. They are talented and has already established a name in KPOP. They need to stop getting in between ADOR & HYBE because at the end of the day, it's their career who is getting more affected. Time to think outside of the box and make decisions that would benefit them more.
yesss this is what ive been thinking as well 😭 they waste years of hard work for a woman who might abandoned them as well... they need to believe in themselves much more
these girls are gonna learn the (very) hard way how unfair life is. like most of us had to learn it just by living life but they're gonna learn it by losing millions of dollars and being engulfed in lawsuits for months/years and having their careers ruined and all of that in front of millions of people who are watching it all go down. godspeed to them
Over all this. If they (NJ) want MHJ then put up the money to buy themselves out of HYBE and start their own label, find their own distribution channels, built their own building, marketing, security, stylists, makeup artists, production, music equipment, copywriters, lawyers, administration teams. It's a lot to be a business. Also, refund all the training money and effort HYBE put towards these girls and MHJ. They did not get their endorsement deals because some one spotted them off a bus stop. If they want things the way they are demanding, then get the money together and buy yourself out. Also, you and your parents signed up for this, and behaving like there is egregious mistreatment is ridiculous. Just leave, and we can all move on. I want music, not drama.
Exactly, they know nothing about business and without HYBE, Ador never exist. Plus, Bang pd has experience with problematic girl group before, so bye NJ.
"signing up for this" is so weird. Like they should accept mistreatment BC it's common in the industry? This is why I can't fully get into Kpop BC in any other music scene ppl would rightfully be like "oh it's fucked that a large company is leaking personal and medical info about their underage employees." But Kpop fans just dismiss it, probably because we as consumers are complacent with the abuse the industry enacts on idols
Their manner of doing this was extremely unwise. They will face a lot of consequences professionally and legally. I am a fan of several Hybe groups, but I have not cared for New Jeans from day one.
Well at this point, ador has a NEW CEO…if new jeans doesn’t like the new leadership, then THEY can opt out of their contracts, pay any fees and leave HYBE..simple solution
All I can say is just be grateful of what they have already famous label and success. Some girls group don’t have both. Just be professional if they love their fans. Without HYBE money their wouldn’t be ADOR. Sometimes life it doesn’t go the way you wanted to be. If they wanted Mhj soo bad they need to leave. They need to respect other HYBE staff’s, too. Is not only Mhj who’s worked under HYBE. They need to grow up and be grateful.
bts is the reason the old jeans are successful. because Hybe has BTS under bighit, they have the attention of THE WHOLE WORLD on just their label, and their channel of course. so when they debuted, all the people liking bts and the other groups got notifications from Hybe labels youtube channel that some girl group has debuted. be fr.
I’m waiting for sept 25th. But in my opinion HYBE should kick out Ador, MHJ, and NewJeans. They don’t trust each other anymore since the moment they left SouMu and formed Ador Lab, they betrayed HYBE. So there is no use for HYBE to keep them. They just keep on making dramas.
@aouzayr24 whoever initiates the contract termination they should pay the fine fee. And ADOR belongs to HYBE not MHJ. Ador Lab was made at the cost of SouMu’s downfall in 2021. They have the right have Ador as their own company without MHJ and NewJeans.
@@roniacurin9415HYBE has never supported them and actively tried to sabotage them. They DID succeed without Hybe. Honestly, hybe should let them all go so they can go and conquer the kpop industry without the one thing holding them back: HYBE.
@nicoleb-r3033 I don't think this is true, though. Are you saying Ador has enough fame to get Apple and Coca-Cola contracts? That feels like something Hybe helped set up. Obviously, I could be wrong but hybe is huge, ador is not.
what i think will happen is that HYBE won't get allowed to manage NewJeans or Min Hee Jin takes NewJeans with her and ADOR's employees to either start her own independent label or go to JYP Entertainment because that's the best option without starting an independent label from scratch
They literally live in luxurious apartments, got paid millions while they were just rookies and they're talking about mistreatment? Girl go talk with OG idols who never got paid despite being super successful or were forced into doing sexual things, then you'll know about mistreatment in kpop. HYBE treated them very well considering BTS used to sleep in one room yet they did all of this because their new CEO refused to go harass another CEO just over Hani's word? So childish. And to say they are nothing without MHJ says a lot about their cultist mindset, they shouldn't be idols if their success depends on other people and not their own talent.
That is so funny. Someone under a contract demands a conglomerate to do her bidding..😅. Someone needs to educate these girls on the real world. No one is obligated to like you or speak to you. If they want to leave, h be your lawyers go to Hybe, offer to buy out their contract, repay all the funds that were used on them prior to debut and up to this point and to sweeten the deal not to participate in the K-pop industry for 5 years. By the way, who held the first press conference
I don't want to involve things but MHJ dragged BTS & comparing them with other groups that's a big mistake ador & MHJ did..... That's why it's became a big issue 😕 she mess with wrong fandom 😞
Honestly these girls are ruining their career so i won't be surprise when NJ don't get a comeback untik their contract ends Edit: some of you guys are misunderstanding what I'm saying. Im not saying they shouldn't talk about their mistreatment in fact I'm praising them for taking out about it but what I mean is the fact they keep saying them want MHJ back like I understand they've been manipulated into thinking she's their saviour but lets be real. Demanding that MHJ come back is just stupid.
“Ruining their career” NO THE COMPANY THEYRE IN ARE RUINING THEIR CAREER. By forcing them not to work with people they’re most comfortable with, people who see their vision even mv editors and such. You people are brainwashed and embarrassing.
I'm proud, it's better to be free then to work in a toxic place. Honestely, as a fan, i'm proud, i dont need a comeback, Newjeans has NOTHING to prove to kpop stan. Even if they disband, i will be happy.
both min heejin and hybe suck. two things can be true at once. I feel bad for the new jeans members though and props to them for having the courage to stand up to hybe.
True, they can both suck. But I honestly don't think New Jeans would be feeling 'isolated' if they themselves didn't put themselves in the middle of the feud to begin with. They could've just said nothing and they would've been fine. MHJ must be pretty special.
@@thzead these are my feeling too. It's bad that they are in the middle of this and they need a more responsible adult taking care of them and advising them. MHJ doesn't have their best interests in mind, she is essentially feeding them to the wolves.
Hyb ni slab, slaba je Min Heejin, ki s svojo igro in taktiko uničuje vse kar je dobro. Dekleta pa ima za svoj ščit! Žal so dekleta s to predstavo skopale globoko luknjo, kjer ne bo izhoda!
@@thzead more like NJ take the bait. And that's exactly what she wants a hostile take over. Like requesting Hybe to leave them alone? Hybe owns 80% of the company.
@@malu705Imagine yourself being that young and not talking even a slightly little bit about this decision with your parents. Some adults must have known about this live.
@@malu705 Sure, lets say you are right. Even if that were the case, any adult again including MHJ who cared about their futures would've told them to stay out of it from the rip months ago. Its an adult problem. Doing what they did unnecessarily put their futures at stake. There were a lot of ways to do this w/o taking a dump publicly on your company.
@@malu705 the mv been taken down so I think that's what's mostly likely has happened or the saw the comments on it and realised themselves it had back fired.
@dc300000 These girls are (mostly) old enough to speak for themselves. They've been suffering through this situation as well. Regardless of what Hybe does with MHJ, they've already decided that don't want to put effort into New Jeans. They literally copied New Jeans and debuted a new group.
Bye bye Newjeans at this point. Imagine doing this and thinking that Bang Shihyuk would let it slide? If they could agree on some terms, Min Heejin would still be there. That means that Bang Sihyuk is done with MHJ and there’s no hope for her to comeback when there’s still BSH running the company. Newjeans members are ruining themselves by not thinking more carefully before doing this type of thing. It will gain the media’s attention, yes, but at the end of the day, they can’t do sh*t cuz the one who controls everything is HYBE(BSH). Plus, I’ve seen the live vid, Minji’s tone was quite harsh/ sounded a bit rude of her voice tone and how she dictated the words. It’s bravery but brings no good to the table.
Are y’all that heartless? Everyone knows that min Heejin is a not a good person,however,she was definitely a good ceo to new jeans. Maybe she manipulated them we don’t know,but what matters is the girls felt safe (as in they were happy and viewed her as a mentor). These girls are literally getting mistreated and sidelined by their own fucking company and CEO (new one) ,and you’re here saying they’re stupid and that they”re careers are over?WELL OBVIOUSLY!But they aren’t that naive .They know the consequences of their actions,they also know that if they talk about this situation to the public it’s gonna bring light to the situation and expose how hybe is actually treating the girls.They can sue the company for mistreatment. Nw jeans are in a tough situation right now,either support them or just ignore it instead of calling them stupid.Minji’s obviously gonna get mad,her harsh tone isn’t as bad as hybe mistreating them.
@@mishuramim2006 Great CEO and what's next? Can MHJ do anything to help them in this situation? No. Do you think that this kind of action would do any good to them? Does MHJ have the power against BSH? No. Do the members have the ability to bring MHJ back? No. It's not about being heartless, but this is the reality where things don't work out the way you want it to be.
@@mishuramim2006 HYBE is a very big company rn and has so much power to do things like wipe off someone or some incident like it had never happened before or ban someone out of spotlight forever. The members chose to do things that are not smart at all. BSH will never let MHJ step in again that’s for sure cuz they couldn’t even set the agreement at the first place. All MHJ think about is money and income disadvantage that she wants to separate ADOR from HYBE but BSH won’t let it happen. Even if Newjeans members leave the company, and go to MHJ, their idol careers would still be over just like Jessica Jung (SM), who can’t even appear on the television.
@@Ririanni I’m not talking about power of company ,I’m talking about the group. It’s human emotion that desires you to talk about things that made you happy ,sad angry,etc.When you hold it in too long,you just get more eager to share it. New jeans have probably been getting mistreated for a long time,like they said this whole hybe sidelining them and being rude to them started PRE DEBUT. I’m not saying min Heejin is good or anything ,but if the girls were fine with her around THEM but don’t feel safe instead upset with their new ceo ,it’s best if they leave hybe or go to min Heejin or just do something to stop this behavior as they had enough.Instead of saying what will happen to the girls due to their “non smart decision of choosing to do a live and saying all these things”,we should stay neutral and see the outcome since 1) it’s only been less than a day since the live and hybe hasn’t done anything yet and we don’t know the future and 2) It ain’t like the girls are our personal relatives or something that we can do much.
@@mishuramim2006 I understand but if they chose to ruin their careers by expressing their frustration publicly by directly targeting BSH or feel okay to the consequences of their actions then I don’t know what to say. Another thing, I hope that they all have lawyers individually just in case… SM ent is the example. I hope HYBE will be more generous. We all know that it’s a hard situation for them right now but this type of thing should be handled privately for their own good. Or at least they should have someone that has that level of power as HYBE to take their side or else things gonna get worse.
They spoke bout how hybe were cancelling their princess treatment (promotions) Do they want to get hyped in this feud Hybe just gave them a small haitus till everything is resolved No gg was ever promoted like NJ in whole hybe They got yt TikTok insta Twitter weibo literally every social media platforms , influences were paid to promote them Hybe paid n bought brand offers for them , moreover individually from diff brands (none of the hybe gg are brand ambassadors of any brand) Sent them to fashion weeks n shows Sent them to every single award shows Every single hybe group did their challenges w them Gave them opportunities to interact w their senior most idols (BTS), no other artists gets such chances easily N when their princess treatment was stopped for a time being They started to whin n accuse their company n boss Whenever something good happens to them It's all bcoz of ador n mhj N whenever something bad happens it's hybe who's at fault Immature
The girls should have just remained quiet. It could have been a win-win for them. They are just the merchandise. But by putting their lives on the line for MHJ who in no logic in the world could be reinstated, they have somewhat sealed their fate.
Even BTS who are literal shareholders of HYBE don't straight up demand their company to provide them something in front of the whole world, and there are these girls who had the audacity to do so, just showing how spoilt they are, you had an instant success since your debut, being provided everything since the start, now you think you're something. Both HYBE and Min Heejin won't be much different, in the end, both just wants benefits for their own, that's the reality of any business corporation, its not because min heejin loves you so much, she is using you as a shield. I have been adoring you since your debut, but what have you got yourself into now.
How can they not see the reason they felt separated from the rest of HYBE artists is because MIN HEEJIN wanted it to be that way. Because her goal was always to GET MONEY and GET OUT of HYBE, she never wanted these girls to want to stay at HYBE. I feel bad for them but at this point they are mostly all adults and especially Minji and Hanni should be opening their eyes to the truth of this situation. And why is everything they complain about have to do with people not greeting them?? First BSH in the elevator and now a manager of another group? This is giving princess behavior. And when did this situation happen if it did happen? Because if it happened as of late, I could see why other companies don't want to associate with them anymore under hybe. At this point new jeans and min HEEJIN both need to just leave. Clearly they don't want to be there. End your contracts and just go.
They can’t just dictate what a company must do such as how they manage their artists.. I- this is so.. I just feel bad for them they are gone to a point of no return. The way they are manipulated by the adults is just so crazy.. there’s a lot of cults in SK and this is so very cult like
This is just way too much for these young girls! They never asked for all of the drama and unnecessary things going on. Clearly you can tell they’re suffering too. They never deserved to go through any of this.
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this is so scary. i've never seen a kpop group do something like this
50/50 and we see what happened with them, new jeans will kill their own career
Low key punk af 🔥 My respect for NewJeans after this 📈📈📈📈📈📈
JYJ.
@@immealldayeveryday9425 Hybe already killing their career.
@@immealldayeveryday9425 If pointing out the mistreatment, abuse and oppression of a company is killing my own career, then im all for it. Throw these girls anywhere else outside hybe and everyone would be open arms for them.
brave of them but would not be surprised if they have no more comebacks until their contract expires
When will their contract expire????????
@@sarahstwart1653If members have given time to hybe till 25th sep , everyone is reporting that members have decided to terminate their contracts with hybe if they will not restore ador back. I think that's will be really good for newjeans, we don't want newjeans members to suffer through this extreme situation it's our fans priority to hope for members well , I will be more than happy if newjeans members gets normal life like idols back even if they will resign contract with other companies.
Probably after 7 years of debut
@@sarahstwart1653 2029
Yep the next FIFTY FIFTY
Brave but unwise. Hybe will never let them go so MHJ could scoop them up. They will be frozen until their contracts end.
No. They could always pay the fine and leave.
@@MHM6081 Google their contract termination penalty. Estimated between US$150 million to $350 million. They are not going anywhere except to Hybe dungeon.
@@MHM6081depends on the fine maybe. This is a good group.
They will sue hybe and let the legal system handle this and also make anti hybe lives until they get what they want.
@@MHM6081 and what exactly would they do after that. They'll be blacklisted and we both know what happens when someone gets blacklisted especially in korean ent. indystry
i think these girls are being used as pawns in a fight that they should not have to be involved in
Ja in to s strani Min Heejin!
what do you mean, this is a matter of their lives.
@@goldstay6469 yes, it is a matter of their careers. but these girls are talented and could still do well without MHJ being ceo but are now involving themselves in a situation where they didn’t need to be involved. In any case, this was MHJ way of trying to manipulate public opinion. I mean the set up is the exact same as MHJ did. The casual clothes, the somber vocal tone, it all looks like a setup. So yes, the girls are now being used in a fight that they should not have been put into in the first place. This entire thing should have stayed between Hybe and its executives and MHJ.
@@isabelladepietro2456make it make sense, they were involved in this since the beginning. Their entire medical history got leaked without their consent. They have all the right to step in and let everybody hear their side of the story.
Any Korean who is interested in K-pop knows Min Hee-jin.
She produced Girls' Generation, SHINee, EXO, Red Velvet, NCT, and f(x).
Many artists respect her.
Producer Bang respected her, too.
It was a good start, but she didn't follow his orders, which caused problems.
Ador control was entirely up to her, so there was no reason to obey his command.
He must have felt angry and inferior for not following his orders.
You have no idea about them.
My thoughts are that it's weird. Weird that they have a specific date in their demand. Weird that they are fighting to remain in a company they don't trust and "tortures" the person they do trust. Weird that they think MHJ can ever be CEO again in a company she has already been found guilty of hating and attempting to sabotage. Weird that their descriptions of discrimination are very vague. And weird that they seem so wholly unaware of the difficulty MHJ has caused other HYBE groups that had nothing to do with anything. It all makes no sense. This grown woman turning to children for cover? I don't know what's going on, but I can't take their statements at face value. Something is up.
^ THAT.
The specific date is odd, and the girls must have been made aware of some kind of deadline. They are used in a conflict they shouldn't be taking a part of
I agree. Kinda weird
Someone said in 50/50’s case, they lost because they didn’t give the company 14 day notice of their intention to file a lawsuit. So they may be setting the groundwork to get out of their contract.
@@DaisyDee5610 the thing is, the Deadline they gave has nothing to do with their own contract, nor is it a formal notice for a law suit (which has to be written). This deadline was given for the sake of MHJ. So idk
@@monimuppet6132 they are pawns in a game they should not be in. Like JK’s message- don’t use artists as shields!
I wish these girls had not done this. I know they think what they’re doing is right and that they’re standing up for themselves and someone they believe to be trustworthy / have their best interests at heart, but they are clearly being manipulated. I think both by Hybe and MHJ. They should have remained neutral, and if they wanted to make a public statement like this, done so through a lawyer reviewed letter. You cannot threaten and slander a big company like Hybe and it’s CEO and expect no legal action. This is definitely gonna end up as another fifty fifty scenario and it’s so sad to see.
Če je to pregledal odvetnik "je največji norec". Mislim, da je tukaj glavna Min Heejin, ona igra svojo igro, dekleta pa ima za svoj ščit!
They are not standing up for themselves at all their standing up for mhj it’s honestly scary how they talk about her….mhj talks about hybe being a cult but idk mhj created her own little one and has full control over them….this is not a normal ceo relationship you can tell they are manipulated 😬
Wait how are they being manipulated by HYBE again? Hybe has everything to loose in all this cases, they put money to create ADORE, they absorbed the debt the girls created when MHJ took them from Source music, The investment of Hybe in source music went to shit when the MHJ took them to ADOR by forcing source music to debut a half ass trained group (Lesserafim) just to remain on schedule. After that MHJ tries to stage a internal coup to steal ADor from under hybe, also paid smear campaings in the media for the remaining groups including BTS and HYBE stock plummet. Now this company literally has to clean the mess the woman made by trying to salvage what they can, (which is not much considering that this girls are refusing to cooperate for their own sake)... I mean if I was a HYBE investor i'd be pissed, not looking for ways to manipulate them , i'd be looking for ways to get rid of them all they are a LIABILITY. This whole mess is a dumspter fire, manipulation means that you need something from someone and you are whiling to do anything to get it, but in reality this big ass company does NOT need this group.
... but MHJ does.
Remain neutral?? Bruh Hybe is mistreating them and icing them out- not inviting them to events, not putting anything on their calendars- are they just supposed to sit there & twiddle their thumbs and take the BS?!?? Noooo they fighting back and damn brave for it!
Sad thing is , as far I've heared MHJ was also trying to hurt other groups (?) . If it's true then no wonder the parent company doesn't trust her . Plus , they are still under Hybe , what if they stops giving them any comebacks ? That would be horrible . @@madysonclaeys6934
Having whole bunch teens telling a corporation how to run a business is unheard of. MHJ totally orchestrated this since what would a bunch of teens know, especially when they have been manipulated by MHJ. It's mind-blowing that they and their parents don't care how MHJ talked trash about them behind their backs. Without HYBE privilege, they wouldn't get all the things they do now. MHJ didn't use a dime of her money to creat NJ.
And the sad thing is she is still manipulating them in that live
without bts hybe would be bankrupt ..artists makes the company hybe should respect them
The funniest part is NJ do not want to leave HYBE. They still want that privilege that comes with HYBE.
@@isodin5415 i wish bts would defend the girls..they big enough and they built hybe
@@camlee2341if bts defended nj as they are now, that would mean defending mhj, and why would they want to do that considering all that she has done and said
The manager said it right in front of her face. She didn't over hear, It was said out so that she could hear it.
By how they acting supporting the actions of corporate espionage and hurting other groups. If it was me… Being ignored is the nicest thing she will get from me.
Okay u get ignored and been told directly how its a HYBE problem? Why dont she ask the manager instead? Like i understand the manager more for not letting his artist to be in contact with someone who actively voice out their disappointment toward the company.. to avoid rumors ofc..
@@yen-8680so did hybe prove corporate espionage because the courts definitely didn't think so. instead of providing any legally significant proof of any misconduct all they've done so far is to wage s shady smear campaign with misinformation.
@@yen-8680 Theyre being mistreated even predebut lol. Imagine the only person protecting you was gone and now you have to deal all the company mistreatment? Dont dimiss NJ experience.
@@사가지늑대 watch the live and they actually cried for help in new Ador's management and hybe but they are ignored and right there they asked themselves who can now they trust
I was planning on dropping my business course before the drama exploded. Now I don’t regret it cause it feels easier to understand half of the situation 🙂↕️
Can you explain a bit because as a science major Im confused 😅
Bahahahah as a commerce student, I second that!
explain pls
I think the op means that all of this is a marketing ploy. All that attention is good for business haha
@iman3622 but who's business is this benefitting tho? hybe? bc new jeans seems to be in shambles with no future in sight with the way they're acting
They talking about trust???
Like how trustworthy mhj planning a coup to steal from her boss and bully other groups? Their definition of trust is so selfish… like “i can bully you but you cannot defend yourself from me hurting you.”
True! And why would any agency trust them considering how they have acted publically. Right or wrong I’m not saying but no agency globally will take them. I can’t see a backer backing MHJ either after the way she has acted. It’s not even a deadlock. They just opened another hatch on the Titanic. Ummm ok.
May I ask how mhj planned or staged said coup? Is there any factual evidences for this? Since the last time I saw fit Hybe is not a good company and function shadily like other companies and mhj tried hard to shed light to her story (as social media portrayed the situation) so I just wanted to ask in full detail of such as to why now the tide is turning against mhj when the start of said issue everyone was siding with her and how said issue has gotten to this point
I don't like mhj but she never bullied other groups but rather their agencies.
@@lsrfmislifeshe did talk about ILLIT and lesserafim THOUGH. SOURCe music even sued mhj for that
@@dodokfearnotshe did it though because she thought the copied New Jeans. Idk I just think this is stupid & I dislike every label and agency
Honestly, doesn't sound like they decided to do this on their own. If they did, brave of them for speaking up. Don't know if another group was told not to talk to them, but it would make some sense, I mean you don't want your group pulled into the drama. Though not fair to the girls either. I think it's weird they think they can demand of hybe to bring her back. That seems a little over confident in where they stand in the company. They are young. Probably not the best decision on their part.
They had scripts in-front of them
@@ranjanajoshi4750 Yes, it felt like they were forced.
@ranjanajoshi4750 okay? So are you saying they clearly did it on their own because they wrote down what they wanted to say? Or that someone wrote down what to say for them? Sorry, the comment wasn't really clear for me. I have written scripts for myself, for videos, and have followed others scripts . I get that a script to you means it is one or the other, I'm just not sure which one you were trying to point out :) Thanks :)
@@wendyraye1 To je igra in taktika Min Heejin, dekleta pa ima za svoj ščit!
They mentioned in the very beginning that they are doing this w/o any force, so don't make assumptions without any evidence. They said this is significantly affecting their lives, so they are standing for themselves in the way.
See this is why we need to debut idols 18+😭😭
Ikr
Absolutely. The girls have been groomed and brainwashed by MHJ that they can't see what's bad and good. If they were adults, this would've been avoidable to some extent.
pls, Minji is like 20. most of them are old enough to understand the situation
@@shineeverse i m talking about debut age..understand the context first..and minji & all r thoroughly brainwashed by that problematic women already so now even if she is 20 25 doesnt matter ...damage is already done..
Well there r some mature idols under 18 as well ..sorry to u guys actually u nice keep going..i m talking about most of those are immatures and take time to understand. things and like this brainwashed by opportunist like MHJ..
Well Shaman had already said to MHJ to select these girls bcuz they wont create problems for her no wonder
@@Siiaa1297 shaman probably knew that these girls will follow min hei jin's rules no matter what 🫠 , and the fact that new jeans thinks that they are nothing without their ex CEO 😭 like girls ya all r talented and can do things without ur ex CEO the world's not gonna end without her yk
Not a good move NJ. They’re too young to understand what they just did. I hope they’re ready for the ramifications that will transpire.
Srsly? Do you think they're too young to understand or to make decisions? So what do you call those ADULT manager who said < Ignore her...> and the new CEO < who thinks Hanni is just lying when she's relaying what happened in 4th floor > .. those adults who act childish in front of these young ladies.
Remember age isn't a basis of how knowledgeable you are.
Ughhhhhh so young people shouldn't speak out for themselves even when they are treated really badly. Is that what you're saying? People like you are the reason why they had to come out to say things. People like you are the reason why "young" they had to be so brave from their fear. Be a better adult before you say what young people can do or not.
@@slkeiwjflldskj that's why some call them 'brave but unwise.' yes, it's undoubtedly more honourable to stand up for yourself but there are just some circumstances that require long term consequences. If they're not under hybe maybe it's alright, the problem here is that they are still under hybe which means hybe hold decisions that will affect their future. They should learn to be neutral instead.
They are deceived into thinking they have the power to demand anything especially restoring mhj. This makes me believe that these girls and their parents are under a spell set by mhj and her shaman because I don't think any parent in their right mind will support someone who insulted, their children the degree mhj did. She doesn't even acknowledge their talents and she's now using them as pawns I pity them and the parents who support them.
100000000 percent correct......
Also, the MV director is behaving irrationally. It's cult-like.
@@maggie198333 Definitely, that's what I've been saying since this mess began. MHJ really ran ADOR like a cult and her personality is like what a cult-leader exudes such as her arrogance, narcissism, psychological manipulation and gaslighting, not to mention her frequent consultations with her Shaman bestie, lol 😰
Yes I agree
If not for MHJ, Hybe would never have taken interest in them. MHJ created NJ from recruitment to concept to promotion.
She may not be easy to work with (allegedly), but no one can deny her impact on the industry for more than 2 decades.
Why didn't they stand up for other groups that were being dragged by MHJ in the media if they care that much about unjust treatment?
The other groups can stand for themselves. They have a career that they have a say in while newjeans do not.
@@miakaelvira9556 even BTS don't have a say and this much audacity even though they're shareholders lmfao. You think those girls are special?
MHJ never dragged other groups? Her issue was BeLift and Source. The only times LSF was brought up was when she was explaining the debut timeliness. She also said she had no issues with ILLIT, just eith BeLift
I do feel for the girls, but they have no one else to blame BUT their precious (former) CEO Min HeeJin who started all of this in the first place due to her greed; had MHJ not wanted to take over ADOR etc, we wouldn't be here. Unfortunately, it's pretty clear they've been manipulated by her and the fact that they're still too young/naive & inexperienced in the business side of kpop, they acted on their emotions instead of their head. Honestly, they're in no position to demand these things as their so-called "mistreatment" does not merit anything this big... They should've gotten a lawyer FIRST before putting out this statement (although, they may have... we dont know what's happening behind the scenes).
Also, they're obviously trying to hurt HYBE and make the company look bad, which isn't going to go over well with BTS & their fans & other HYBE artists' fans, and esp. not the sharholders (which I'm sure BTS members have a stake in the company...)... this is going to get messy. Yikes
Manipulated, naive, and inexperienced for sure. They're committing career suicide and acting like MHJ is their savior. It's sad at this point.
@@Sandyyyyyyyyyy It really is & I do feel bad, but not much...
another 5050 case happening LOL
@@SandyyyyyyyyyyI am too ...they are not thinking from their head and it can cost them alot 😢
Res je!
Ladies and gentleman, say goodbye to new jeans, cause there is no way that they will allow them to do any comebacks now
Edit: could people stop fighting in the comments? Stop bringing other groups down and comparing situations, grow up
Bye new jeans..it's obvious tht they love min hee jin as their mentor..but she didn't care Abt group..her vision only was take over hybe..nj.. should not have done this..
Its getting worse and worse
I heard on the channel, “Korean Pizza Club,” there are several agencies that would snatch NJ up in a heartbeat. You can’t compare them to 50/50 as NJ has a wide fandom and a few years in the industry already. With that being said, I would think it would be a fatality for any agency to include MHJ as part of the package 😅.
I can care less what those girls do. They just ended their career.
Do you think NewJeans members will sit still? They stood up against Hybe for mistreatment and ustability, only PiGS like you will keep on sprouting nonsense like that lmfao. The entire nation is against Hybe now, Newjeans is Korea’s representative group atp, we bunnies won’t sit still 😂😂
Do they think they're going to have a career after this ?
Nikoli več! S tem posnetkom so si zapečatile vse!
they already don't so they have nothing to lose with this. It's obvious what Hybe has been doing to kill their careers.
the fact that they still believe they cannot go on without MHJ should be grounds for an investigation in itself
the purpose of a mentor or “parent” as she prefers, is to teach your “children” the skills to grow and thrive WITHOUT YOU
in the “real world” if a child’s growth is stunted to the point they cannot function that would be 100% abuse (e.g. gypsy rose before committing murder LOL)
their biological parents continue to show their failure in raising these women right
You need to go watch the live. HYBE doesn’t look out for them when that’s literally their job. One of NewJean members tried telling the new CEO about the manager who told another idol to ignore her and the CEO accused her of lying.
When an artist/idol is under a label, they need to have someone to look out for them because they’re competing with many other artists/idols. Now let’s add on how young them members of newjeans are, they’re not being taken seriously enough to have creative control even though they had it when MHJ was in charge. You seriously need to watch the stream because it sounds like you didn’t or else you would get it.
@miakaelvira9556 I agree with you 💯
It just seems that they have been treated so unfairly that they had to speak out on this situation.
And I'm really proud of them for doing that. Hope that they can continue doing what they do in this field because this is the first time a kpop group has spoken out.
I'm scared for them but will support them no matter what happens
@@miakaelvira9556 while I don’t expect you to agree and im not trying to change your mind, for me, going on camera was eerily similar to MHJ first press conference which served to generate (in this case solidify) public sympathy and opinion
im not going to argue about the “ignore her” issue because it’s completely unacceptable from everyone involved
yes, they should have people looking out for them, which is why it’s hard to grasp why they (and their parents and also MHJ) would openly want to stay under HYBE via ADOR instead releasing a statement via lawyer and fighting to end their contracts if they genuinely believe they have a case?
@@cmbts7 They said her place is irreplaceable for she is integral part of newjeans tone, music, creative production. They never said they are nothing without her. They are happy with the ador team before but HYBE replaced staffs and now interfering with a director they worked with. I dont understand why yall think you know their lives better than them. If you watched the live and you only heard abt MHJ and not anything else… you’re the brainwashed one.
@@miakaelvira9556 dude the other group could've been illit or lesserafim. Do you not know the damage MHJ has done to these groups with her accusations? Why would they still want to interact with a group that worships mhj? And another idol not saying hi is the base of "mistreatment" for new jeans, especially after everything that has happened.... Those girls are seriously privileged.
Crazy. I am still of the belief that they were definitely manipulated by MHJ and Hybe. I don't think minors should be trainees or in the entertainment industry at all. I don't blame the girls for doing what they did and they probably believe what they are doing is right. I don't think it's right for Hybe to treat them this way but MHJ is obviously nuts, too. Would probably be best for all the girls to get out of the industry and get psychological help for the way they've been treated.
This👆
Yeah exactly my toughts, this is what you get when you debut extremely young idols in the scummiest envirovment they could end up in
Thing is other minors have thrived in similar or worse situations ( no comment on whether it’s right or wrong it’s their lives) - but not everyone is suited for the entertainment industry and not everyone has the support system to thrive.
I think NJs fall in the category of people who are not suited for the industry at that age.
Tukaj je najbolj kriva Min Heejin, ki ima dekleta za svoj ščit! S tem posnetkom pa so si dekleta dokončno uničile kariero!
Tukaj so krivi tudi njihovi starši!
brave of them for going against hybe. It won't be surprising if they have a downfall (they already getting) and be kicked out of hybe.
I personally think Min Heejin told them to do this as she only thinks about herself.
i guess hybe owns the name new jeans..i hope not i want them to sign with another company
Po tem dogodku, Hyb bo trdno imel dekleta do zaključka pogodbe in mislim, da je to do leta 2029! Ja dekleta so si same skopale jamo, kjer ne bo izhoda!
@@camlee2341 Hybe owns the name and all the music, they would not be allowed to perform NJ songs if they somehow signed with another company.
Wtf is brave about it it’s dumb. Why would they wanna stay at hybe after literally threatening them
@@camlee2341you think it’s that easy to start fresh when big companies black list you ? Oh boy dig in the history my friend
CAREER KILLER MOVE
Hybe already killed their careers and ignored them when they tried to speak to the management, they have nothing to lose.
@@crystal2484 well they could lose their dorm
and? that's probably the least of their concern right now living amongst hostile people!! Stop going through item by item, u talked about their career, such a sore loser you are!
whats a supposedly smart move then?
@@stephenkang99 to not go behind the back of Hybe. Embarrass them, and expect no repercussions
Its their right to speak up but to demand alot of impossible things and even defamed HYBE in the process is a BIG NO NO. I think NJ in a great problem. Its either they makin this big issue with some weapon behind their back or just want to get attention from the fans media so they could get away from HYBE without paying the penalty (courts involved) for mistreatment.
이게 MHJ가 말한 계획인가요? 정말 답답하네요...MHJ 너무 지겨워...신우석,이제뉴진스...25일 부터 소송을 가나요?
Tudi, če imajo to bazo oboževalcev, jih to ne bo rešilo!
Nothing is impossible, Hybe doesn’t have any options now. Newjeans will win
@@KsenijaHajdu-x3glol don’t worry, bunnies will fight! Surprisingly filthy rats like you will support Companies rather than the Artist lol. Just because your favourite group is in the company doesn’t mean that they are the best. Hybe must reconsider before it’s too late, losing NewJeans is a big loss and we bunnies won’t just stay.
@@mahabubajannathashi1199 u said that as one of the shareholders or legal workers or a fans?
They are crazy for this. I am curious to see how it ends
Končalo se bo slabo za dekleta!
Indeed
Yup.
this will not go well.
I can't think any other Kpop group that is so linked with their CEO. Usually when you think of people behind a group, it is the company, not a certain person. MHJ is doing everything she can to link herself to the group, so that she can rely on NJ and their fanbase to support her. Anything negative about MHJ can also be seen as an attack on NJ. Judging by her actions I do not think she cares about the members, only about what is beneficial for her.
@@gyrthez246 Vreča denarja za Min Heejin, ki jih ima za svoj ščit!
@@gyrthez246they don't have such relationship. BTS got to say bang shi hyuk as their brother just few years ago and they also know how big a thing it is and they respect it . They are way more mature then this NJ and mhj scenario things .
BTS has a better relationship with Pdogg and their first manager who helped them financially than with Bang PD. It's true that sometimes they meet up for dinner, but that's literally what JYP does with JYPE groups and it's nothing extraordinary. No one calls anyone father or does not see a future without that person. BTS is just loyal. Even groups from other companies are meeting with Bang PD for a meal. Even considering Somi is besties with Teddy (her CEO and producer) she never said any of the same things NJ says about MHJ. NJ doesn't see their worth without MHJ. @@gyrthez246
She does not truly care about NJ, rather she cares about what they can do for her. It's always been about her.
@@gyrthez246BTS abd BSH do have a close relationship. They built Hybe together. However, BSH does not manipulate BTS members. BSH tries to inspire them to become the greatest and authentic artists that they can be.
MHJ manipulates NJ members into believing that can't do anything without her, the reason they are so dependent on her. Pretty narcissistic isn't it.
Who else is tired of this bs?? To be honest, the girls should have kept quiet until their contracts ended because they are now gonna be put in the basement and unfortunately they can possibly end up being blacklisted like what happened with Ailee and her company
I can't believe people. THIS IS JUST MY OPINION 😂😂
They were brave. They only trusted MHJ, and I dont think they want to sit around for 5 years just scared.
Are you srs rn? What they did was incredibly courageous, unlike a lot of other groups who think that this problem will resolve on its own, they took actions into their own hands. Stepping on what they did and saying they should’ve kept quiet is disgusting. Sure, you’re tired of this crap, we ALL are, but the ones that have it the roughest are the NewJeans members themselves.
If they hadn’t done this, and just left the work to the “adults” the fact that the situation would resolve itself would’ve been highly unlikely.
They did THIS to help out their fans, to try and at least HELP the damn situation.
So stop spitting on what they did and try to appreciate it, because what they did also partially ruled in our favor.
@@MiniYuuKi No, the person who has it roughest is the ex-ADOR employee who had to file a criminal sexual assault lawsuit against ADOR. That isn't even HYBE vs ADOR anymore, that's ADOR literally treating one of their own like garbage.
The multi-millionaire girls living in one of the nicest condos in Seoul aren't the ones who have it the worst. They could live off their riches for years at this point.
@MiniYuuKi as if it's gonna help the situation, but ok, all I see is it's gonna get worse for the poor girls, it's happened before, and especially considering hybe has more money and power
If you’re tired then just get lost. Or tell your fav Hybe to stop harassing the girls and creating instability in their work!
How many dollars you wanna bet that it was mhj's idea 😂😭
Tudi brez stave se ve, kdo je igralka te umazane igre!
i will give you a million dollars if mhj didnt direct them explicitly
uh just say u didn't watch the live. hyein literally says in the beginning that she doesn't want people to spout some weird comments saying mhj told them to do this, even though she knows they will. like you have :)
HYBE BOY channel translated the whole live and it sounded like MHJ just wrote that and made them read this. But that's just my opinion.
@@Yoonji9212 I checked that translation, and it's not bad (not perfect). However, I can't reliably watch that video as an honest translation because of the snide remarks the translator continuously makes towards the statements the members say during the video. Also, the fact that they're a hybe group review channel, and their channel banner includes all of HYBE's kpop groups except new jeans? Seems like a biased source to me
I would do the same to someone who created a whole hate train against my group and media play against me .After all the things they did how can hanni expect everyone to be lovey dovey with her ?? i am surprised by her entitlement ngl.
Did you hear at the end that they legit gave HYBE a deadline like sorry you might be a big group but you don´t threaten a BIG COMPANY no matter how big you are, you'll get crushed. Also, them standing up for mhj is just stupid at this point
Lovey dovey? I belong to the same fandom as you but for GODS SAKE aint no one sending hate trains to BTS... i dont understand why my fandom is so easily manipulated by hybe?? Like they do a little mis-match of story to make us have their backs attacking mhj and we follow right into their palms??
And hanni asked for literal basic human rights. Everyone deserves to be treated humanely another group respected her presence htheir they gretted "hi" To eachother already and the manager says right onto her face " Iignore her" No she hasnt done nothing wrong they respect BTS too i just hope one day you can actually open your eyes and see what actually goes on instead of simply supporting anyone who who manipulates into it.... WE STAN BTS NOT HYBE
@@riskyriskywikiwiki mate it’s not just BTS.
@bruhbro-zg7ghthe manager said that because of min hee jin.
@bruhbro-zg7gh true they should have said it personally in a perfect world but maybe they really wanted her to hear it so she also sees how upset others are with her and the group and mhj and what has been done? Sometimes people say things out loud cause they can't even say it to them cause they just won't understand or spin that narrative instead.
Why do people keep ignoring the elephant in the room which is minheejin was removed for doing illegal things like insider trading, spreading false rumours about other innocent hybe groups including bts, and trying to cover up a sexual harassment scandal in her company??? I feel bad for new jeans sure but minheejin deserved to be fired 100%.
And secondly it makes sense the manager told the group to not interact and ignore her. They have been openly supporting minheejin after she openly defamed and started insane levels of hate campaigns against all other hybe groups just out of greed, obviously no one wants to associate with them after that whole mess.
I hope newjeans heal and realise they dont need a misogynist and greedy bully like min heejin to survive, they arent talentless like she claims and they can stand on their own two feet
Active and willful ignorance. A lot of the kpop community has a penchant for not remembering all of the details of an ordeal.
THIS... and in no other job in the world do you get to THREATEN the head of the company to hire back a boss you like who damaged the company.
You decided to speak nothing but facts! 🗣️
Absolutely true..
Write this comment in Korean UA-cam videos. Their comments are all delusional and they need a reality check.
Yall realise its an awful thing if an artists/groups entire trust is in one ceo right.. No ceo should be "irreplaceable". The artist should have their own identity.
In mhjs leaked texts we saw her say the new jeans girls are fat, have no talent, and only successful because of her. Its a shame that it seems the new jeans girls themselves have started to believe this. If this isnt corporate grooming idk what is. Her leaving is the best thing to happen to them even if they cant see it yet !!
Those chats are proved to be edited in court like seriously the judges even criticised hybe and ruled in MHJ favour still you all believe some rumours about her without knowing the facts by that logic hybe has done so much more shady things against nj
GIRL. Can u think? NJ are not kids. They are not stupid as well and they know more than you do. Stop acting as if you are paid by HYBE. Lol
The two comments under these, are well groomed online by Mother mhj as well. Pathetic losers.
corporate grooming is all the bts members refusing to accept the abuse bang pm put them through when he had jungkook doing a sexy concept as a child and working them to the point they were passing out on stage. what about bang pd on record saying to crush aespa next comeback?? everything is selective with y’all. You hate one problematic person but you’re gonna support another one??
@@moodindemandthey only understand corporate grooming with newjeans but never with bts
but the thing is HYBE is a very big company rn and has so much power to do things like wipe off someone or some incident like it had never happened before or ban someone out of spotlight forever. The members chose to do things that are not smart at all. BSH will never let MHJ step in again that’s for sure cuz they couldn’t even set the agreement at the first place. All MHJ think about is money and income disadvantage that she wants to separate ADOR from HYBE but BSH won’t let it happen. Even if Newjeans members leave the company, and go to MHJ, their idol careers would still be over just like Jessica Jung (SM), who can’t even appear on the television.
Well seems like everyone is tryna paint hybe as the bigger evil when mhj is right there too.
FYI not so long ago chat were supposedly leaked and there it was found that she called the newjeans members fat and dumb. I also remember Mhj making a very creepy comment on her live conference about how Minji was prettier when she was young like... so creepy. But hey everyone quickly forgot about all that.
P.S their so call beloved Ceo they tryna defend so hard is also embroiled in "s**ual harrasment issue''
Defending and actively supporting such a controversial person.... those girls 🤦♀
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Wow. Cool for stepping up but wondering if this will end as another fifty fifty.
It will be worst. The companyof fifty fifty isn’t as big as hybe
@@ranjanajoshi4750I REALLY PLS DONT WANT THAT.THESE GIRLS ARE THE SOURCE OF MY HAPPINESS.PLS DONT EVER DISBAND😭
@@ranjanajoshi4750wait...what happened to fifty fifty??
imagine an employee think they have the power to pick who gonna be their ceo and even have the audacity to put dateline for it...this is just plain ignorant but then again these girls just teens didnt know the reality yet...not to mention them doing this literally blackmail/threaten the company which is not a good image for these girls
The girls should sue hybe instead of doing this. Do they really think that hybe will listen to them. So naive 😅
@@wh98412 sue hybe for? if ppl talk about mistreatment...the girls not gonna get a nice luxury dorm tho...do u ever see when the girls do live at their dorm? not to mention others benefit the girls get too...these girls going rebel right now because they cant be independent without mhj...mhj literally control them
@@wh98412 They can't sue HYBE they have no grounds on which to sue HYBE on.
@@wh98412it was they’re last attempt I guess. I actually feel for them because it sounds like no one is listening to them
One of the girls said something like “I don’t really understand the situation and I don’t know if I have to”. They’re content in being ignorant airheads.
I don't know about hybe but min hee jin will always be wrong for me no matter what this horrible women does she'll never be a good person for sure and i hope the girls get what they want and continue in a healthy way
Its proven in the court that the company conversation leaks from HYBE against MHJ are edited. And now can you trust everything that HYBE says against MHJ if they can manipulate evidence?
All I know is to trust NJ. NJ know all the shit that goes on the company predebut until now and if NJ believes its HYBE's fault and it is really HYBE.
Res je! Min Heejin igra s svojo taktiko, dekleta pa ima za svoj ščit!
So true , I'd she really did care about the girls and their career . She must have tell them a thousand time to not step in. !!
@@shrishtishrivastava5007 she made the girls step in themselves and also started massive h*te train against other artists like aespa, illit and le sserafim 💀
Fifty fifty girls were oversmart
New jeans girls are undersmart
Both trying to defy authority without understanding its implications like little children
They are little children in reality 😂
Bunch of teens
They made a huge mistake in this
Imagine thinking you are big enough to give a multimillionaire company that put money on you a deadline lmao, like who do they think they are?
They are naive. Hybe did everything to kick out MHJ. They don't care of the media report at all. That showed how much they want MHJ to leave.
Exactly like who do they think they ARE
delusional, as are their stans
This is so uncomfortable to watch at this point.. is so embarrassing.
@@shinagi6807fr Like who tf do they think they are
Why is everyone pretending to be professional lawyers and business experts in the comments ?😭😭😭
If you work for someone then you have to know the term and conditions of an employee and employer. You don’t go livestream to demand things from your employer.
Damn like it’s not that hard to comprehend the fact that you can’t demand to ur boss like it’s common sense atp
They aren't pretending, they simply know the consequence of taking an initiative where you aren't supposed to take an initiative. The gist of it is that you should know your place, especially in a business-related situation. Get it? This isn't rocket science so you shouldn't be commenting on how people "pretending" to be a lawyer or some shit like that.
Too much free time and no compassion whatsoever
@@zuriatiabdullah7347 this is them giving informal notice to HYBE that they will be suing for contract termination on the 26th. This video and it's demands were not for Hybe but for the public - it's softens the blow of the termination lawsuit if they state they are being mistreated, give Hybe time to "make amends" (knowing it won't happen), and then be "forced" to sue. It's funny that y'all think these girls are dumbasses when it's clear they know what they are doing and have a plan. Even if this was MHJs idea (which they explicitly deny), they are going in with their eyes wide open. Frankly I applaud their hutzpah
I'm glad they spoke out but at the same time So NJ we're basically sold the MHJ storyline. They don't know what discrimination means with Korean Societal norms in mind while considering the definition of "the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of on the grounds of ethnicity, age, sex, or disability." If the Managers are telling their groups not to speak to NJs there has to be a reason and they don't realize that MHJ has been isolating them from other groups. If it was a Boy Group we all know how companies like to separate GGs from BGs to avoid scandals. Also their so called mother promised their family kick backs which is up in flames now.
Why are you just assuming that they wouldnt understand korean sociatel norms? 3 of them have been born and raised there, all of them have lived and worked there long enough to understand such norms and regulations between BG and GG.
Even with those things in mind, I dont think it would even matter since it happened inside of a private space of Hybe so it wouldnt have any influence on outside perspectives if they were to be able to great each other. To even think that there might be an instance in which it would be okay to tell a group to ignore a certain other person is crazy ngl. This is so obvious a matter of discrimination in a overall sense. Just because your googled definition wouldnt classify it as such doesnt mean it isnt. Also it wasnt mentioned here but in the Live, what really makes this incident bad is that NJ went to their new CEO with this story to resolve it privately but they made it out like Hanni was just lying to them and they didnt take any action to resolve the situation.
@@odi9974these people are so annoying. Creating narratives to preserve their takes on the story when NJ themselves are speaking the contrary. Internet is just tiring, and this is one of the reasons why the girls had stood up and spread their views on the matter.
Any Korean who is interested in K-pop knows Min Hee-jin.
She produced Girls' Generation, SHINee, EXO, Red Velvet, NCT, and f(x).
Many artists respect her. So does Lee Soo-man of SM.
Producer Bang respected her, too.
It was a good start, but she didn't follow his orders, which caused problems.
Ador control was entirely up to her, so there was no reason to obey his command.
He must have felt angry and inferior for not following his orders.
You have no idea about them.
@@TYC365If Ador's control was entirely up to her, she wouldn't have planned to take over. Yes, she was the CEO but there was a higher authority which she didn't respect but wanted. If those people respect her so much why didn't she stay with them or go back to them. Anyways, didn't she have issues with SM which made her leave?
Lol people from international would believe any craps that's plastered on Twitter... We can see it
Hahahahahahaha these girls think this is high school 😅😅😅 I remember when I was in elementary school and my the leader older girl would make his little minions talk on her behalf when she would get in trouble.
They are digging their own grave by doing this ..... They are not getting it now but when they realised they are manipulated everything will be over by then and that time their respected ceo or "mother"will do anything to help them......... And how can their parents let them do this .....like are they not concerned about their children future and let them supporting min hee jin ....... Instead stopping their daughters and give them the right advice ...... How can their parents ruin their own children future
Their Parents are Greedy Narcissist too Same as MHJ .. Only seeing 🤑$$.
I think they should've kept their mouths closed. MHJ should also have advised that. They should've kept their heads down, worked to get a few more albums out until enough scandals had taken the news cycle and attempted a breakaway. I believe MHJ has the sliminess of an eel to have accomplished that. With the fifty-fifty scandal so similar to their own, they should've watched and learned from their outcome. I don't particularly endorse Hybe, but I do find MHJ 's brand of villainy fascinating.
its better to address the problems, so some change will happen. Even if they do end up in a worse situation, at least they have actually spoken and done something.
My question is this. MHJ has been removed as CEO of Ador. However, has she been removed from Ador altogether? Last I checked, no. She is still in charge of all creative aspects, so I'm not understanding what the big production is about. MHJ is no longer in charge of management, but the girls still get to work with her for music, for concept art, probably even for MV filming. So I'm not understanding why the six of them are causing such a ruckus over her not being in charge of the company as a whole. MHJ staged a battle and lost. She can't attempt a hostile takeover and then get upset when she has to deal with the repercussions.
All of this is explained by the girls in the live
The answer to this is litterally go and see the live with whatever language subtitles you best understand
@@riskyriskywikiwikiwhy can’t you answer? Because they didn’t make sense
Please do elaborate why and how MHJ “staged” this whole incident? It just baffles me especially how hard she fought to get her story to light (basing off on what and how social media portrayed said situation)
Ona je sedaj glasbeni producen za dekleta!
If they really want to be MHJ. Go follow her they are brave enough to do a live then they must have a hefty sum of money to pay and break their contracts.
They can be free and have their own company with MHJ and start again.
Every group have different personal staff for their group only so whatever was said by the manager of the other group isn't hybe wholly even if its the case and she felt bad what min heejin has done to other groups is wayy more than what was done to newjeans all together
Exactly they were just ignored because they probably don’t want their groups involved and whose to say that the group wasn’t the one mhj talked about can you blame the manager for wanting to see them from mhj and her minions? Unfortunately everyone knows mhj has control of NewJeans and knows how to use and manipulate them can’t blame them for wanting to stay away from them…I do feel bad for the girls tho I wish their parents were smart enough to actually care for them and protect them…especially since mhj did this to herself
These kids officially ruin their lives. I really hope they are strong enough to handle everything. Soo dumb i mean MHJ is the reason soo many groups suffer but when NJ are suffering themselves but have zero remorse for others. Still siding with MHJ . They Forgot their job as an artist it to create music not drama
Nothing changes unless people speak up. Hiding your head in the sand like an ostrich might be standard Korean behaviour but it needs to change.
She said what she said go girl 💕💕
They r not small kids, they r kids of college age...If they are mistreated n abuse they can sue the company n get out of the company without paying fined if the company is found guilty... MHJ was not remove from the company but they act like she is removed...she was demoted not fired... But they don't hve right to demand hype to put mhj back to ceo, she hve been found guilty of some crimes... NJ members are bully n their parents r bully too...Who gave them money and resources for their success? Who is paying them? Who invested in them? Who gave them opportunity ? Who r the board members? They accused others of copying them but did they not also copy other previous girl group (with proved) ...Do they own y2k? Did they create y2k? Did they forget that mhj is a middleman in a business world...? Did they forget that mhj is like a caretaker of Ador n the real owner is hype? It was not nj members fight to begin with... It was an internal power struggle between mhj n hype...NJ members should have stayed neutral in this...This powers struggle would not have affect them as they were successful group n hype would not want to lose them...But they r interfering in matters that could displease their real bose...Who would like if a group is helping to overthrow you n snatch your company? Anyone?
Waiting for them to do the FA part so they can know what the FO part is about. This isn't a playground. Hybe's all about doing things legally as adults should do.
I liked their music but after watching these videos I won't support them anymore. They're immature young adults who tolerate a criminal. Granted they could be brainwashed or groomed but I dont wanna waste my time in such people.
They really are little girls. Especially when you are a trainee, the world around you is very small, you don't see much of life and all that has to offer. They are living inside a bubble
What the-
Did they really think that would work???
NewJeans you're done for girlies.
HYBE existed before New Jeans and they’ll be okay after them. They’re starting to leave a BAD taste in my mouth. The way they cling to this lady is sick and unprofessional. I would take the hit and cut ties with them as well.
Bolana je Min Heejin, ki manipulira z vsemi!
also considering they so conveniently decide to ignore that why she was demoted of her ceo position? first she breached the trust & contract with hype which is like ok shitty, but not uncommon for people to get money hungry. but there is other case going about how she tried to hush an employee who came out about her SA experience & told her to go unalive herself for making a "fuss" over it. The girls arent kids anymore, they are old enough to attend college, how do they think mhj would be nice to them when she did that to other women? or are they so selfish that they dont care what trouble others went through & only want their wisehs to come true cuz they cant work under other ceo??????
New jeans need to leave cause I’m sick of them and MHJ, this disrespect has gone on way to long, of your so unhappy then pay up to get out your contract and leave
@@kopii00 clearly you missed all the shit MHJ has font not only that but she literally started the whole dam problem, crazy part is she stole new jeans entire concept even there name to make things worse she is being accused of sexual assault!!! So the question is do you mean you support MHJ cause eeewww 🤮
@@immealldayeveryday9425 you know hybe LAUGHED and mocked newjeans ditto song? You know hybe wanted newjeans to fail from the very beginning right? You seem to talk highly as if you know but you do not. You may not like min heejin but you must be fucking STUPID to like a million dollar company that has overworked and harassed their idols. Have you seen how tired enhypen has been recently? Hybe does not care but mhj Did in fact care about the girls, regardless if she started this drama that you call pointless when in fact she was fighting for the girls rights within the comoany thay mistreatmented them. You’re the ew one here
@@kopii00 where in their words they ever said they "like hybe”
@@kopii00 it’s crazy that new jeans expect HYBe to leave MHJ as CEO when she literally betrayed HYBE is absolutely unrealistic, they wanna talk about their treatment but what about MHJ actions that brought a lot of hate to innocent KPOP groups, if they liked it so much before then why the hell did MHJ start all of this to begin with, not only that but they blatantly lied in this video, Dani said MHJ produces their music which she absolutely does not
New Jeans is the first group since T-ara to take their feud to the social networks. Does everybody remember how that worked out? NJ members have been far more spoiled than any other KPOP group. They should be sent home for a very long hiatus.
How stupid can u be? How much did HYBE pay u? AHHAHAHHA Stop dismissing the girls theyre not stupid. They know more shits than u.
What hiatus? Do you know how much it takes to speak out against mistreatment like this?
@@YoYo-wv9ob They were not mistreated. They were spoiled. Now they are finished.
@aouzayr24 fans can't do anything when hybe will not give the comebacks or a sudden hiatus or disband
@aouzayr24 hybe gave them the platform and spoon fed them all the luxury of idol life. Eachother support? 😂 All they are supporting right now is the groomer mhj who's using them for her selfish interest after doing multiple fuckups. Any sensible individual can make out what's going on here. Fan base won't serve credibility when everything mentioned above is revoked by hybe.
Wow that is a huge.
That said it sure does seem like MHJ is a manipulative narcissist, but of course I don’t know her personally. The feeling I get is one of her using cult leader like techniques to create loyalty / stockholm syndrome tendencies. Crazy that NJ did this though.
Agreed!
Agree, their attachment to her is not normal nor natural. That's for sure. It is okay to be on good terms with your boss/director but what the heck is this...
If they are being mistreated then they should sue hybe and let the court decide and let them leave the company for free without the penalty..find yourself a place you wont be mistreated and given the top floor and luxurious apartments😊..in my opinion if they dont do that i do not believe a single word out of their mouth and i hope they face the repercussions of their actions with great force ..also the manager thing i would totally do the same thing ..maybe not say it out loud but my group would definitely be banned from interacting with NJ
You gotta have money to sue unless some powerful lawyer is willing to do it for free. These girls have no money right now.
They probably will if things don’t get better
@@miakaelvira9556 probably for the best ..if it's really proved to be mistreatment then I hope they leave without the penalties but if it's just stuff like the "CEO didn't say hie" then that's another story
I hope you get to experience a vile workplace culture one day - maybe you’ll understand their actions better at that stage
@@yonomi333 I could have said hope you get an ungrateful employee who will sue you to the ground for providing them with too much privileges but I'm all for peace and love so I won't say it 😊
These girls asked for "humanity" for mhj, but at the same time they have no humanity for 2 newjeans predebut members who mhj ruined over shaman words, no humanity for ILLIT they signed petition against, no humanity for other hybe idols she attacked, no humanity for ador SA victim
No humanity toward Illit and Le Serrafim either
@@JH-bb8in Forget about humanity they are playing victims card everytime and do bratty things to provoke hybe everytime and they expect staff to hold flowers for them they know your sh*t and it is good they are telling other artists to maintain distance dont know what mhj do to target them again..they are no fvcking kids they r very clever and tokkies their so called fans well mhj was right once when she said they r fvcking stupid kids calling themselves fans..Atleast have some self respect
Do they expect Hybe to bow down to them? This s career suicide. Good luck.
What if its their only way to get out from HYBE? They're not kids. I dont think theyre stupid at this point I think theyre going all out and know the consequences. It means the situation is really worst cause NJ already speaks up. There are stories that NJ did not disclosed. What they shared are surface level. NJ knows their career trajectory and what would happen to them. So I guess either way to speak up or just be ignored forever.
so if you get harassed at work, you just going to swallow it and pretend nothing happens? they are doing this because keeping silent is not going to change anything, what else can you do? accept to be shelved or suck balls? at least, this is going to get them somewhere
@@moodindemandthey should have spoken from the very start. Why only now? To defend MHJ? If MHJ is really trust worthy, she should have separated her self from HYBE from the very beginning and take those NJ with her if she really cares about since like what they said even before debut they were already discriminated. I don't trust HYBE, but I also don't trust NJ and MHJ. They all have ulterior motives.
They have the right to speak out and share their perspective on the situation and make requests regarding their career. It doesn't mean they actually think they'll get their way. When artists speak out like this it's more to get public support and understanding. They may feel stuck and unsure what to do next so this was a bit of a last resort. I wouldn't be so judgemental towards them. Hybe and Mhj didn't treat them right and now they have no one.
@@jennxox1111 Finally someone who understands NJ.
This is very unprofessional of them, this could have been done behind closed doors. They should know the backlash they're going to receive. They should also consider the other groups that were literally the punching bags because of the feud between MHJ and hybe.
Cinderella's "Mother Figure" was all lovey dovey until the father died. Then Evil step mother showed her real personality ( mean, selfishness, greed, arrogance). Except that in this story, there will be no Prince Charming. This is the real world!
They think the grass is greener somewhere else, let them go, after they reimburse every scent spent on them!
No because mhj calls herself "mother figure" To this girls😂. It's funny tbh mhj using these girlies as pawns
MHJ trying to get Ador removed from Hybe & NJ and now demanding that Hybe has to returns Ador "to how it was before" is peak comedy. Sucks for NJ, but they have to get that MHJ brainwashing out of themselves
You mean ador removed from Hybe
@@noshintasnim3205 of course, my bad
What?? They threatened bang shi hyuk to appoint min hee jin as a CEO by 25 September. I just want to say, girls this is too much now, at least think before talk and stop dancing as a puppet of your so called mother mhj
ppl who are brainwashed like i are so funny, i dont understand the hate towards to mhj, yall are worshipping hybe and bighits ceo so bad 😂😂😂
And i also don't understand how blind u have to be to not see how mhj talk abt newjeans behind thier back and plan literally Shaman stuff for other grps. Plz seek therapy ASAP. That pedo is grooming these poor girls and mhj puppets like u and the girls themselves don't see it. Sad. @linealie
They are apparently brainwashed.
HYBE TREATS their artist horribly regardless if you dislike Min heejin. They can't bully these girls like that they did not do anything wrong
@@linealie clearly you missed out on previous drama to not know why people are hating mhj 🤣
its painfully obvious this script was written by mhj
Agreed!!
This is so confusing to me. I'm so scared for these girls. I hope everyone is safe.
MHJ trained these girls well.. to be Entitled narcissists🤬 They really think they’re High & Mighty demanding BangPD/ HYBE for apologies & reinstating MHJ as CEO. WOW ..they got nerves of steel
Thank you for summarizing everything Priscilla ❤!!
These kids have been completely brainwashed by their so called mother and I feel bad for them. Not that hybe is any better but if they want to talk about injustice then bullying and harassing other groups and backstabbing your own company (which their mother did) is not fine either.
they did mention that they have asked for help from the newly appointed ceo of ador (not MHJ) but she silenced them.
@@wooliduuli again I know hybe is not innocent either but what I am trying to say is that these girls have to realise that all this started in the first place because min heejin decided to backstab the parent company. Had she refrained herself from all this and went on with the contract, none of this would have even happened in the first place. Why would a company trust an employee again who once tried to sabotage it. Why would they give her that CEO status again knowing very well how it can backfire on them once she gets her power back.
@@wooliduuli Also the manager incident, I know anyone of us in hannis position would have felt so bad if someone said that to us but at the same time how can you expect respect from the same groups that your CEO has been openly sh*tting upon in media, when you have clearly decided to be on your ceos side.🤷🏻♀️
@@wooliduuli what help tho? we dont know entirely how the new management is but what they did mention was all about mhj, she did this and that for us, well shes no longer ceo so you just have to deal with new changes, i think they wanna pin the new ceo to be evil and mean and shit but do they not get theyre literally her job too? she wont make money and nobody in ador will if newjeans arent successful, they just want cooperation and if they have to ignore their harmful intention then so be it
4/5 are adults, they're grown ass women, stop infantalising them to take away the blame and responsibility, these are not little girls, they know what they're dping
Literally so many fanbases are into this one all because of Min Heejin Kanyesque rant blasting Illit, Le Sserafim, BTS, and other girl groups. If u support Heejin, then u twisted😂 In the end it’s her fault for doing this to herself and Newjeans… She thought she was so powerful by making Newjeans and got an ego thinking she can breakaway from Hybe, and the plan failed. Now, Newjeans messing with Hybe? This is definitely something that could’ve been resolved INTERNALLY, but like MHJ, took it to the public 😂
Where were they when their mother was defaming these groups? If i was in one of these groups I wouldn't even greet them.
Demanding from Hybe as if they own it just like how min he jin forgot Adore is not actually hers.
I'm sorry but I would do the same if I was a group manager. Like I wouldn't want my group to interact with a group whose CEO has no problem inciting hate and harassment on other groups
IKR. NJ slaps everyone in the face and then cries about the others not giving them attention.
Exactly. It’s a normal behavior after the other HYBE groups received online hate from what MHJ did. NJ openly support MHJ.
Lmao. No, it’s not normal behavior. Ya’ll petty AF. Are you guys in middle school?
Grow TF up, be mature, and greet people at your workplace. By not greeting someone at work and telling them to ignore someone else at work then YOU are the one creating a toxic and unhealthy work environment. YOU should the one getting reprimanded for that, not the person who got ignored because they spoke up about it.
That’s a dumb way of thinking. MHJ allegedly have done those things, not NewJeans. None of this is NewJeans fault and yet they’re being treated like it is. That’s the problem
@@zv8365 did New Jeans say or do anything to harm other groups though?
these girls are throwing their own career away for a CEO who probably doesn't care about them. they are young and naive, easily persuaded by her nice words but at the end of the day, someone being nice to you does not excuse all their other wrongdoings. they're her project to make money, that's it which they're confusing for kindness. i feel for them and hope they realise these things sooner than later.
I think New Jeans should start thinking more about themselves and their future rather than making demands which are just impossible. They are talented and has already established a name in KPOP. They need to stop getting in between ADOR & HYBE because at the end of the day, it's their career who is getting more affected. Time to think outside of the box and make decisions that would benefit them more.
yesss this is what ive been thinking as well 😭 they waste years of hard work for a woman who might abandoned them as well... they need to believe in themselves much more
The girls have messed up big time manager said that because of minheejin she is a monster.
Quit and pay the penalties or do your best to build a bigger fan base and not renew your contract after it expires. Welcome to the real world.
2026 - Who was New Jean's? Just signed your own demise.
these girls are gonna learn the (very) hard way how unfair life is. like most of us had to learn it just by living life but they're gonna learn it by losing millions of dollars and being engulfed in lawsuits for months/years and having their careers ruined and all of that in front of millions of people who are watching it all go down. godspeed to them
Over all this. If they (NJ) want MHJ then put up the money to buy themselves out of HYBE and start their own label, find their own distribution channels, built their own building, marketing, security, stylists, makeup artists, production, music equipment, copywriters, lawyers, administration teams. It's a lot to be a business. Also, refund all the training money and effort HYBE put towards these girls and MHJ. They did not get their endorsement deals because some one spotted them off a bus stop.
If they want things the way they are demanding, then get the money together and buy yourself out. Also, you and your parents signed up for this, and behaving like there is egregious mistreatment is ridiculous. Just leave, and we can all move on.
I want music, not drama.
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Exactly, they know nothing about business and without HYBE, Ador never exist. Plus, Bang pd has experience with problematic girl group before, so bye NJ.
They have refunded the training money - that's why the members were able to be paid last hear
"signing up for this" is so weird. Like they should accept mistreatment BC it's common in the industry? This is why I can't fully get into Kpop BC in any other music scene ppl would rightfully be like "oh it's fucked that a large company is leaking personal and medical info about their underage employees." But Kpop fans just dismiss it, probably because we as consumers are complacent with the abuse the industry enacts on idols
Their manner of doing this was extremely unwise. They will face a lot of consequences professionally and legally. I am a fan of several Hybe groups, but I have not cared for New Jeans from day one.
Well at this point, ador has a NEW CEO…if new jeans doesn’t like the new leadership, then THEY can opt out of their contracts, pay any fees and leave HYBE..simple solution
The girls are naive thinking that they can demand hybe to return MHJ to her position. Hybe kicked out MHJ. No way they will reinstate her
All I can say is just be grateful of what they have already famous label and success. Some girls group don’t have both. Just be professional if they love their fans. Without HYBE money their wouldn’t be ADOR. Sometimes life it doesn’t go the way you wanted to be. If they wanted Mhj soo bad they need to leave. They need to respect other HYBE staff’s, too. Is not only Mhj who’s worked under HYBE. They need to grow up and be grateful.
The entitlement, they were sadly trained too well by their groomer 😞
bts is the reason the old jeans are successful. because Hybe has BTS under bighit, they have the attention of THE WHOLE WORLD on just their label, and their channel of course. so when they debuted, all the people liking bts and the other groups got notifications from Hybe labels youtube channel that some girl group has debuted. be fr.
I truly dont think min heejin should come back if she ever come back they would never be able to cooperate
Min Heejin ima samo cilj, da uniči Hyb in BTS! To je omenila že na prvi novinarski konferenci. Dekleta pa ima za svoj ščit!
The girls are miserable without her. Even though mhj had her moments you just can’t deny that she loves these girls dearly
I’m waiting for sept 25th. But in my opinion HYBE should kick out Ador, MHJ, and NewJeans. They don’t trust each other anymore since the moment they left SouMu and formed Ador Lab, they betrayed HYBE. So there is no use for HYBE to keep them. They just keep on making dramas.
@aouzayr24 whoever initiates the contract termination they should pay the fine fee. And ADOR belongs to HYBE not MHJ. Ador Lab was made at the cost of SouMu’s downfall in 2021. They have the right have Ador as their own company without MHJ and NewJeans.
Yeah, I hope Hybe kick them out. Since both parties (NJ/MHJ) are arrogant enough to say that they are successful with or without HYBE.
@@roniacurin9415HYBE has never supported them and actively tried to sabotage them. They DID succeed without Hybe. Honestly, hybe should let them all go so they can go and conquer the kpop industry without the one thing holding them back: HYBE.
@nicoleb-r3033 I don't think this is true, though. Are you saying Ador has enough fame to get Apple and Coca-Cola contracts? That feels like something Hybe helped set up. Obviously, I could be wrong but hybe is huge, ador is not.
what i think will happen is that HYBE won't get allowed to manage NewJeans or Min Hee Jin takes NewJeans with her and ADOR's employees to either start her own independent label or go to JYP Entertainment because that's the best option without starting an independent label from scratch
They literally live in luxurious apartments, got paid millions while they were just rookies and they're talking about mistreatment? Girl go talk with OG idols who never got paid despite being super successful or were forced into doing sexual things, then you'll know about mistreatment in kpop. HYBE treated them very well considering BTS used to sleep in one room yet they did all of this because their new CEO refused to go harass another CEO just over Hani's word? So childish. And to say they are nothing without MHJ says a lot about their cultist mindset, they shouldn't be idols if their success depends on other people and not their own talent.
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That is so funny. Someone under a contract demands a conglomerate to do her bidding..😅. Someone needs to educate these girls on the real world. No one is obligated to like you or speak to you. If they want to leave, h be your lawyers go to Hybe, offer to buy out their contract, repay all the funds that were used on them prior to debut and up to this point and to sweeten the deal not to participate in the K-pop industry for 5 years. By the way, who held the first press conference
I don't want to involve things but MHJ dragged BTS & comparing them with other groups that's a big mistake ador & MHJ did..... That's why it's became a big issue 😕 she mess with wrong fandom 😞
Res je! Največja napaka Min Heejin je bila, da je napadla člane BTS in to v času služenja vojaškega roka!
Honestly these girls are ruining their career so i won't be surprise when NJ don't get a comeback untik their contract ends
Edit: some of you guys are misunderstanding what I'm saying. Im not saying they shouldn't talk about their mistreatment in fact I'm praising them for taking out about it but what I mean is the fact they keep saying them want MHJ back like I understand they've been manipulated into thinking she's their saviour but lets be real. Demanding that MHJ come back is just stupid.
They can demand an injunction and very much win cause this issue has been happening right in everyones faces
“Ruining their career” NO THE COMPANY THEYRE IN ARE RUINING THEIR CAREER. By forcing them not to work with people they’re most comfortable with, people who see their vision even mv editors and such. You people are brainwashed and embarrassing.
if speaking up against mistreatment. is ruining their career then I'm proud of them
so, would you just let people mistreat you go away without any fight back?
I'm proud, it's better to be free then to work in a toxic place. Honestely, as a fan, i'm proud, i dont need a comeback, Newjeans has NOTHING to prove to kpop stan. Even if they disband, i will be happy.
Thanks for summarizing. I think MHJ behind all these, Hybe is not gonna let it slide so the members are in grave danger.
both min heejin and hybe suck. two things can be true at once. I feel bad for the new jeans members though and props to them for having the courage to stand up to hybe.
True, they can both suck. But I honestly don't think New Jeans would be feeling 'isolated' if they themselves didn't put themselves in the middle of the feud to begin with. They could've just said nothing and they would've been fine. MHJ must be pretty special.
@@thzead these are my feeling too. It's bad that they are in the middle of this and they need a more responsible adult taking care of them and advising them. MHJ doesn't have their best interests in mind, she is essentially feeding them to the wolves.
Hyb ni slab, slaba je Min Heejin, ki s svojo igro in taktiko uničuje vse kar je dobro. Dekleta pa ima za svoj ščit! Žal so dekleta s to predstavo skopale globoko luknjo, kjer ne bo izhoda!
@@thzead more like NJ take the bait. And that's exactly what she wants a hostile take over. Like requesting Hybe to leave them alone? Hybe owns 80% of the company.
@@jessicapierce3027 they no longer kids they are young adults with jobs.They should be responsible of what they do and acted.
The adults in these kid's lives, to include MHJ (if she actually cared about them) should've stopped them from doing this, epically stupid thing.
They said its the members doing the live on their own. No one told them to. And I'm pretty sure if that's the case, they have been corrected
@@malu705Imagine yourself being that young and not talking even a slightly little bit about this decision with your parents. Some adults must have known about this live.
@@malu705 Sure, lets say you are right. Even if that were the case, any adult again including MHJ who cared about their futures would've told them to stay out of it from the rip months ago. Its an adult problem. Doing what they did unnecessarily put their futures at stake. There were a lot of ways to do this w/o taking a dump publicly on your company.
@@malu705 the mv been taken down so I think that's what's mostly likely has happened or the saw the comments on it and realised themselves it had back fired.
@dc300000 These girls are (mostly) old enough to speak for themselves. They've been suffering through this situation as well. Regardless of what Hybe does with MHJ, they've already decided that don't want to put effort into New Jeans. They literally copied New Jeans and debuted a new group.
RIP New Jeans 2022-2024
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I got nothing to lossseeee...
Bye bye Newjeans at this point. Imagine doing this and thinking that Bang Shihyuk would let it slide? If they could agree on some terms, Min Heejin would still be there. That means that Bang Sihyuk is done with MHJ and there’s no hope for her to comeback when there’s still BSH running the company. Newjeans members are ruining themselves by not thinking more carefully before doing this type of thing. It will gain the media’s attention, yes, but at the end of the day, they can’t do sh*t cuz the one who controls everything is HYBE(BSH). Plus, I’ve seen the live vid, Minji’s tone was quite harsh/ sounded a bit rude of her voice tone and how she dictated the words. It’s bravery but brings no good to the table.
Are y’all that heartless? Everyone knows that min Heejin is a not a good person,however,she was definitely a good ceo to new jeans. Maybe she manipulated them we don’t know,but what matters is the girls felt safe (as in they were happy and viewed her as a mentor). These girls are literally getting mistreated and sidelined by their own fucking company and CEO (new one) ,and you’re here saying they’re stupid and that they”re careers are over?WELL OBVIOUSLY!But they aren’t that naive .They know the consequences of their actions,they also know that if they talk about this situation to the public it’s gonna bring light to the situation and expose how hybe is actually treating the girls.They can sue the company for mistreatment. Nw jeans are in a tough situation right now,either support them or just ignore it instead of calling them stupid.Minji’s obviously gonna get mad,her harsh tone isn’t as bad as hybe mistreating them.
@@mishuramim2006 Great CEO and what's next? Can MHJ do anything to help them in this situation? No. Do you think that this kind of action would do any good to them? Does MHJ have the power against BSH? No. Do the members have the ability to bring MHJ back? No. It's not about being heartless, but this is the reality where things don't work out the way you want it to be.
@@mishuramim2006 HYBE is a very big company rn and has so much power to do things like wipe off someone or some incident like it had never happened before or ban someone out of spotlight forever. The members chose to do things that are not smart at all. BSH will never let MHJ step in again that’s for sure cuz they couldn’t even set the agreement at the first place. All MHJ think about is money and income disadvantage that she wants to separate ADOR from HYBE but BSH won’t let it happen. Even if Newjeans members leave the company, and go to MHJ, their idol careers would still be over just like Jessica Jung (SM), who can’t even appear on the television.
@@Ririanni I’m not talking about power of company ,I’m talking about the group. It’s human emotion that desires you to talk about things that made you happy ,sad angry,etc.When you hold it in too long,you just get more eager to share it. New jeans have probably been getting mistreated for a long time,like they said this whole hybe sidelining them and being rude to them started PRE DEBUT. I’m not saying min Heejin is good or anything ,but if the girls were fine with her around THEM but don’t feel safe instead upset with their new ceo ,it’s best if they leave hybe or go to min Heejin or just do something to stop this behavior as they had enough.Instead of saying what will happen to the girls due to their “non smart decision of choosing to do a live and saying all these things”,we should stay neutral and see the outcome since 1) it’s only been less than a day since the live and hybe hasn’t done anything yet and we don’t know the future and
2) It ain’t like the girls are our personal relatives or something that we can do much.
@@mishuramim2006 I understand but if they chose to ruin their careers by expressing their frustration publicly by directly targeting BSH or feel okay to the consequences of their actions then I don’t know what to say. Another thing, I hope that they all have lawyers individually just in case… SM ent is the example. I hope HYBE will be more generous. We all know that it’s a hard situation for them right now but this type of thing should be handled privately for their own good. Or at least they should have someone that has that level of power as HYBE to take their side or else things gonna get worse.
They spoke bout how hybe were cancelling their princess treatment (promotions)
Do they want to get hyped in this feud
Hybe just gave them a small haitus till everything is resolved
No gg was ever promoted like NJ in whole hybe
They got yt TikTok insta Twitter weibo literally every social media platforms , influences were paid to promote them
Hybe paid n bought brand offers for them , moreover individually from diff brands (none of the hybe gg are brand ambassadors of any brand)
Sent them to fashion weeks n shows
Sent them to every single award shows
Every single hybe group did their challenges w them
Gave them opportunities to interact w their senior most idols (BTS), no other artists gets such chances easily
N when their princess treatment was stopped for a time being
They started to whin n accuse their company n boss
Whenever something good happens to them
It's all bcoz of ador n mhj
N whenever something bad happens it's hybe who's at fault
Immature
They are such a drama queens.. They kept saying ceo ceo ceo ceo lol..
The girls should have just remained quiet. It could have been a win-win for them. They are just the merchandise. But by putting their lives on the line for MHJ who in no logic in the world could be reinstated, they have somewhat sealed their fate.
No one will touch these young women after all this.
Even BTS who are literal shareholders of HYBE don't straight up demand their company to provide them something in front of the whole world, and there are these girls who had the audacity to do so, just showing how spoilt they are, you had an instant success since your debut, being provided everything since the start, now you think you're something. Both HYBE and Min Heejin won't be much different, in the end, both just wants benefits for their own, that's the reality of any business corporation, its not because min heejin loves you so much, she is using you as a shield. I have been adoring you since your debut, but what have you got yourself into now.
How can they not see the reason they felt separated from the rest of HYBE artists is because MIN HEEJIN wanted it to be that way. Because her goal was always to GET MONEY and GET OUT of HYBE, she never wanted these girls to want to stay at HYBE. I feel bad for them but at this point they are mostly all adults and especially Minji and Hanni should be opening their eyes to the truth of this situation. And why is everything they complain about have to do with people not greeting them?? First BSH in the elevator and now a manager of another group? This is giving princess behavior. And when did this situation happen if it did happen? Because if it happened as of late, I could see why other companies don't want to associate with them anymore under hybe. At this point new jeans and min HEEJIN both need to just leave. Clearly they don't want to be there. End your contracts and just go.
They can’t just dictate what a company must do such as how they manage their artists..
I- this is so.. I just feel bad for them they are gone to a point of no return.
The way they are manipulated by the adults is just so crazy.. there’s a lot of cults in SK and this is so very cult like
This is just way too much for these young girls! They never asked for all of the drama and unnecessary things going on. Clearly you can tell they’re suffering too. They never deserved to go through any of this.
fr!! one of the most normal comments on here
i feel so sad for the girls... i really hope they can get people who actually are willing to protect and care for them on their side 😢
Im so tired of this bs this has to end one way or a another