That looks like a fantastic upgrade, just for safety. In my PX1 Ranger, I have a OME GVM 3330kg kit and have been tempted to go the next step to the 3500kg GVM but was worried that this would also require better brakes in the rear. Lots of good upgrade options, just need some time and $. Might have a look at their GVM upgrades as well.
Does the 2 inch lift from pedders with the upper control arm mod bring the geometry back to factory specs, or are the arms only needed for 3 inch or more?
I can’t say for sure that their arms will get you back to factory geometry with a 2” lift, because I honestly don’t know! But the tech fitting the UCAs said I had a much better alignment afterwards, however they don’t normally bother fitting aftermarket UCAs until you lift your vehicle over 2”. I can say for sure that it handles a shit load better at speed now, and I’m expecting to get a bit more travel Offroad.
Funny you say that. I’ve also heard that they’re stronger than OEM, and several of the Pedders employees have said they are. But I havnt been able to find anything concrete online or any specs. So I didn’t want to say they are in the video! They make street car drive shafts good for 1400hp which is pretty crazy!
Whilst these upgrades do have their place the elephant in the room will still be there If you’re planning on loading this rig with all the nice to haves and towing a van bigger than the one you already have you could easily end up with a bent chassis even though you’re below your upgraded GVM The Problem with utes is most of the load is overhung not between the axles as in most trucks The air gap between the cab and the canopy results on the chassis doing all the work as opposed to a wagon where the chassis and body take the bending and most of the load is between the axles Check out John Cadogan’s latest video on bent utes When it comes to high end loads there’s not much on offer in Australia in the Ute department
I hear you, and I've seen a couple of pictures of bent dual cabs doing the rounds on social media over the years. And I did watch John Cadogans video. Theres no denying physics - combine that design flaw with the dickhead factor, over loading, incorrect loading, poor performing suspension and poor conditions and its a risk factor. Thats probably one of the reasons why second stage manufacturers like Pedders wont fit kits to increase GCM. But, in 15 years of owning and travelling extensively in 4wds, I'm yet to come across or speak to anyone that's actually first hand bent a chassis (other than as a result of an accident). I mitigate my risk by sticking to my GVM/GCM (which I've travelled at the maximum end of for 10's of thousands of kilometres), fitting good suspension thats rated for the weight I carry (as John explained, one of the biggest risk factors is bouncing an overloaded vehicle along on the bumpstops), putting heavier items over or in front of the rear axle when possible , reducing tyre pressure when need be and driving to conditions.
@@WildTouring I’m sure your across it Cam Towing my “overloaded “ boat to gnaraloo 10 years ago I hit a cattle grid at speed which had an exposed block of concrete in front of it. I did manage to slow down in time however the boats springs flattened out and I limped into the station discovering others had done the same Sometimes you don’t get a chance to slow down enough as holes are filled with dust, I’ve since learned to drive slow so there’s no energy to dissipate
Yes mate, aftermarket piggy back ecu (ecu=shop cube touch combo). Selectable tunes on the fly for towing (leaner afrs/ more conservative tuning) or power (more fuel).
If your drums are adjusted correctly then this wouldn’t be any improvement for your handbrake. If that’s your only drama I’d just get your drums looked at 👍🏼
@@WildTouring thanks mate good to know. The only real solution for Toyota handbrakes are a disc hand brake on the driveshaft behind the transfer. Just thought this upgrade could be another option. I am the discs maintain the sane handbrake mechanism as the vechile.
Great work! Good to see some sensible upgrades for touring.
Looking at doing this upgrade to our BT50 as we do a lot of Caravan towing. Cheers for the great info
Hi. How much did you spend for DMax? Where to buy? Plan to change mine. No idea where to buy here in the Phil🇵🇭 Thanks for the info.👍👍
Thanks for the vid. Didn't know Pedders did a disc brake conversion. Just sent an enquiry to the local distributor. 👍
That looks like a fantastic upgrade, just for safety. In my PX1 Ranger, I have a OME GVM 3330kg kit and have been tempted to go the next step to the 3500kg GVM but was worried that this would also require better brakes in the rear. Lots of good upgrade options, just need some time and $. Might have a look at their GVM upgrades as well.
Good one mate, very sensible.
Does the 2 inch lift from pedders with the upper control arm mod bring the geometry back to factory specs, or are the arms only needed for 3 inch or more?
I can’t say for sure that their arms will get you back to factory geometry with a 2” lift, because I honestly don’t know!
But the tech fitting the UCAs said I had a much better alignment afterwards, however they don’t normally bother fitting aftermarket UCAs until you lift your vehicle over 2”.
I can say for sure that it handles a shit load better at speed now, and I’m expecting to get a bit more travel Offroad.
Hi Cam, really like the brake upgrade. Cheers Graham
Where did you get or bought the disc brake kit conversion?
From Pedders.
Two questions
Were you given a discount on the mods?
If not what was the cost of just the rear brake upgrade?
That’s two question 😂
Drum to disc conversion is around 3k.
@@WildTouring your correct thought of the 2nd question at the end
@@WildTouring Cost for you to have the conversation done
Great info
Well do once again!!!
How much for all of it can you do a cost price on all you did please.
Looking sweet buddy, love to change my rear drums 😡😡😡cost me money on my wet Holland track trip
Haha yeah Holland track cost our group a few bucks too between brakes, alternators and belts 😂
Any idea if the pedders cv shafts are just rebadged GSP rubbish? I’ve heard that the pedders cv shafts are stronger then OEM and hoping this is true.
Funny you say that. I’ve also heard that they’re stronger than OEM, and several of the Pedders employees have said they are. But I havnt been able to find anything concrete online or any specs. So I didn’t want to say they are in the video!
They make street car drive shafts good for 1400hp which is pretty crazy!
We don't tow, but with a canopy and extreme track this is one of the next mods for our dmax. Next will be an auto tranny cooler
Good move 👍🏼
Auto trans cooler made a massive difference to my trans temps. Was surprised how high they were getting before it!
THANK YOU FOR SHARE VIDEO
Be awesome if pedders did a disk conversion for the RC colorado. Brakes are terrible on mine.
Got my entry in for the amarok comp 🤞🏻
Me too, good luck!
Any idea on fitting costs to get this kit installed?
Drum to disc is around the 3k mark. But best to contact your local store for a price because they vary a bit being franchises.
@@WildTouring cheers mate yeah the actual kit is $2370 so around the $700 for install based on that. Thats not bad. Cheers for the reply mate
Whilst these upgrades do have their place the elephant in the room will still be there
If you’re planning on loading this rig with all the nice to haves and towing a van bigger than the one you already have you could easily end up with a bent chassis even though you’re below your upgraded GVM
The Problem with utes is most of the load is overhung not between the axles as in most trucks
The air gap between the cab and the canopy results on the chassis doing all the work as opposed to a wagon where the chassis and body take the bending and most of the load is between the axles
Check out John Cadogan’s latest video on bent utes
When it comes to high end loads there’s not much on offer in Australia in the Ute department
I hear you, and I've seen a couple of pictures of bent dual cabs doing the rounds on social media over the years. And I did watch John Cadogans video. Theres no denying physics - combine that design flaw with the dickhead factor, over loading, incorrect loading, poor performing suspension and poor conditions and its a risk factor. Thats probably one of the reasons why second stage manufacturers like Pedders wont fit kits to increase GCM.
But, in 15 years of owning and travelling extensively in 4wds, I'm yet to come across or speak to anyone that's actually first hand bent a chassis (other than as a result of an accident).
I mitigate my risk by sticking to my GVM/GCM (which I've travelled at the maximum end of for 10's of thousands of kilometres), fitting good suspension thats rated for the weight I carry (as John explained, one of the biggest risk factors is bouncing an overloaded vehicle along on the bumpstops), putting heavier items over or in front of the rear axle when possible , reducing tyre pressure when need be and driving to conditions.
@@WildTouring I’m sure your across it Cam
Towing my “overloaded “ boat to gnaraloo 10 years ago I hit a cattle grid at speed which had an exposed block of concrete in front of it. I did manage to slow down in time however the boats springs flattened out and I limped into the station discovering others had done the same
Sometimes you don’t get a chance to slow down enough as holes are filled with dust, I’ve since learned to drive slow so there’s no energy to dissipate
Cam have you had a remap done on the Dmax?
Yes mate, aftermarket piggy back ecu (ecu=shop cube touch combo). Selectable tunes on the fly for towing (leaner afrs/ more conservative tuning) or power (more fuel).
Just out of curiosity cam , what did this cost ?
The drum to disc? It’s around 3k
Thanks for the awesome video's 👌 mate I can't find the link 😢
www.letsgocaravanandcamping.com.au/xtremecamping/?
Legend thanks brother
Where abouts is that ridge track mate?
Helena Aurora Range. It’ll be in my next couple of vids coming out 👍🏼
@@WildTouring Thanks for that. Looking forward to them.
Would you say that this improves handbrake as well. As you may know hilux handbrakes suck.
If your drums are adjusted correctly then this wouldn’t be any improvement for your handbrake. If that’s your only drama I’d just get your drums looked at 👍🏼
@@WildTouring thanks mate good to know. The only real solution for Toyota handbrakes are a disc hand brake on the driveshaft behind the transfer. Just thought this upgrade could be another option. I am the discs maintain the sane handbrake mechanism as the vechile.
FYI, the comp link is not working :)
Thanks Peter!
Fixed it 👍🏼
How do I contact you for a quotation?
If you’re in Perth get in touch with pedders Cannington
No Amarok rear disc?
Nah not that I’m aware of.
Is anyone retrofitting the 2017+ rear discs setups onto the older models?
The reason these Thai ute come with drum brakes has to do with there commercial vehicle tax
Yeah I’ve heard the same 👍🏼