How a Neglected NATO Ally Became a Russian Puppet State?
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How a Neglected NATO Ally became a Russian Puppet State?
We review the history of Georgia, who are the people? What is the countries relationship with Russia? What happened during the Russian Georgian War? And what does the future of this country depend upon?
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Great content, my dude. Your channel is going places.
Side note: I think your title "How a Neglected NATO Ally Became a Russian Puppet State?" could benefit from dropping the question mark, since 'how' is not being used in an 'interrogative' way...
Tens of thousands of Georgians work in the Russian Federation. Hundreds more have business connections there. Because this sector of society and those they are allied to chose, democratically, to pursue a course of non-hostile relations with Russia doesn't mean Georgia is a 'puppet' of Russia currently. The pro-Western, urban group isn't the whole country.
ამაზე ქოცური პოსტი თუ მქონდეს ნანახი...
Don't forget to mention Mythical "billion Georgians Russia"
@@datoqamushadze164 I'm using data from the Georgian government itself as quoted in English language Caucus focused media.
True but the Geo Perspective grift is about repeating the narrative created by the US state department fed through it's corporate media puppets to suit it's strategic interests. It's a good grift as google/US state department reward you for being their mouthpiece by promoting your videos and not demonitizing you like they do to anyone who examines what they say and applies a critical analysis worth it's salt.
No Georgia 🇬🇪 did not choose ruSSia relations . RuSSia invaded Georgia 🇬🇪 because they wanted closer ties with EU and US UK and NATO. RuSSia will always be the aggressor and genocidal terrorist nation of thugs . Georgia 🇬🇪 belongs in EU ❤️💪🇬🇪
Pretty good video, here are some things I wish you added:
1. You should have elaborated more on what happened in Adjara
2. You also should have elaborated more on why Saakashvili lost in 2012, it isn't that black and white.
3. About the Yanukovich moment, if you ask most Georgians they would say that the "Gavrilov night" would be a more apt moment. The government ditching the EU deal was bad but Saakashvilis party was boycotting it so it wasn't seen as that unsurprising.
Still a great video tho! Don't worry about the pronunciations, we're used to it...😂
thanks for the pardons, the names are almost as tough as Finnish
Writer of the script here, point 2 is definitely something that would've been a good improvement. I originally had a mention about Saakashvili's heavy handed approach making him enemies if I remember correctly which then was lost during the editing stage by GP while being overlooked by me, which could have been then later connected to his political fall in a quick mention.
@@alehaimplease also elaborate more on Adjara why it remained part of Georgia despite of Abkhazia and South Ossetia declaring independence from Georgia.
@@GeoPerspectiveAll nato countries are americas puppet state.
As a disclaimer and due to lack of research on my part, this is merely just my educated guess@@papapeethehunks
My guess is that its due to Adjaria merely wanting autonomy which it was granted leading to more friendly initial relations between the central government and Adjara. Also the factor of Russia not being on the border of Adjara also possibly influenced its decision to remain part of Georgia, as it had no direct land based connections with Russia unlike Abkhazia and South Ossetia. There is also the factor (take this with a grain of salt) of the possibility that the Adjarans never had their own state of any kind, where as the Ossetians have ties to the unruly Caucasus which for a long time remained uncontrolled by big empires, while Abkhazia in the past was an independent kingdom that ended up as on part of Georgia.
This video and channel are both criminally underrated. ❤
Thank you for kind words
This channel is criminally false and hypocritical.
In the public domain, you can find a report of the European Commission that investigated the events of 2008, it says that the war began with aggressive actions of Georgia. Georgian troops attacked South Ossetia, 1,500 Tskhinvali civilians and dozens of Russian peacekeepers were killed overnight.
The Russian Empire did not seize Georgia, Georgia voluntarily became part of Russia on its own initiative.
On this channel, almost everything is a lie about Russia...
Brother, the way how engaged, professional, and complex your materials are is truly out of my mind. Editing, voiceovers, selection of visual materials, and even music (especially that in the last part, has some vibes), thrilled to discover your channel after the Montenegro video. Keep it up, waiting for a material about my home, Poland, that just like Georgia and Hungary is a lovely place, however with truly anxious direction of some political reforms in the latest 8 years. Stay safe!
And I’m anxious to make a video on Poland 😂 but it’s coming, thanks for watching
@@GeoPerspective I know why, only India has more sensitive army of snowflake-cyberdefenders of the rulling party in the internet. Fingers crossed anyway!
@@annarock8966 Nobody asked you, get out
@@GeoPerspectiveGeorgia can become a eu member if it becomes puppet of eu.according to u.
Good balanced report. Russia's provocation of Georgia with its claims of genocide after it irdered ethnic cleansing was cold logic allowing it to prevent Georgia from gaining acces to NATO at a time where both Ukraine and Georgia were real candidates. The fact that over 15 years later neither have gained access to NATO protection and that Russia is in direct control of parts of both nation's sovereign territories is no accident and it is shameful that the West was so "brain dead" for so long. We should have crimped Russia's imperialist ambitions earlier so as to lessen the conflict later. A stitch in time saves nine. But that is hindsight and it would gave required clarity of purpose which Obama almost never displayed.
Especially the part if the Kaiser had won. 😂
The only imperialist is nato
Its nato who attacks others for their interests. Then pretend they are angels
You really thought russia was gonna let you position nukes and missiles so near of them
Even ussr split it up was illegal and should not have happened
Usa was basicaly corrupting gorbatchev yeltsin and ussr regional leaders to go for independance and split up to destroy their opponent ussr. And manipulating people to split
Imagine if china was corrupting usa state leaders to go for independance. And manipulate amerikans to split up. So that usa become 50 independant countries
Are you aware that Bush was the US president when Russia invaded Georgia?
Pretty good video I would say.
Nice video
Support from Poland
Even the OSCE reports note that Georgia invaded the two regions that had been autonomous since the early 90s (they earned that autonomy with their blood). Russian peacekeeping soldiers were attacked, Russia fought back.
The OSCE said Russia started the war by invading Georgia. Georgia didn’t invade anything because you can’t invade yourself.
Two regions? Georgia invaded two regions right?
@@MtiuliBichi You can if they are autonomous regions.
Can't invade what already belongs to Georgia 🇬🇪. It is as usual ruSSia and genocidal terrorist that invaded Georgia, infiltrated ruSSians there and scream " eithic cleansing " and spread ruSSian propaganda. They done it in Georgia, Ukraine, dpr, lpr Moldova , that what ruSSia does .
Osettia and abhazia have right for self determention
They have no rights.
@@MtiuliBichi hypocrat why not
@@Narses_the_aremnian If South Ossetia and Abkhazia have right for self determination, then all the non Russian republics are Russia Federation also have same rights, agree or no ?
@@MtiuliBichi if they become democracys then yes chechnya wasnt one
@@MtiuliBichi agree
GEORGIA is wise to stick with the reality that Russia will be their neighbor forever. Making enemy of your permanent Neighbor is a wrong choice.
😂😂😂😂
I've thought from the beginning of this war that we ought to heavily-arm the Georgians and try to get them to open up a second front against Russia; they could drive the occupiers out of their captured lands of South Ossetia as well. This would accelerate the collapse of Putin's Russia and divide its incompetent forces even further. If the time had to come, both Ukraine and Georgia could push into Russia itself, but I don't think that's part of the plan.
Second front would be interesting but then Putin would have an easier time justifying the war also.
Yeah no, these "captured lands" as you call them declared independence 30 years ago. Georgia has no business there anymore.
@@rdrgtreer”independence” is a funny way of saying Russian occupied land
It's your problem that you believed in such fairy tale.
It just shows you what you actually want for Georgian people. They are nothing more to you than "second front" to attack Russia. Insane statement...
2008 perezagruzka happened everyone closed eye Georgia left alone then happened 2014 war in Ukraine and 2022 war is going on now. It started in 2008 when RuZZia did not get punished.
Did not get punished for what? Georgian soldiers attacked Russian peacekeepers. Georgian soldiers committed genocide against several nationalities. They knew how it could end for them
Also, I wish you a pleasant nuclear winter after nato decide to "punish" Russian
First
Too many lies:)
Second 🥈
We're all winners here🏆
Went out to get cigarette papers and found out I had competition 😅
You no nothing numb
Total gavno
They are all puppets... What an idiocy
I'm really interesting who is paying for such kind of Videos. So this person is saying that Georgia needs "essential reforms" for integration with the west, when in Reality Georgia is way ahead by level of democracy, rule of law and so on, than for instance Ukraine, Moldova or any other EU candidate state. Check European commission's analytical report 2nd February 2023 on Georgia's alignment with the EU acquis. This video is based mostly on propaganda Rumors not on facts.
No it is not... The EU will not add another country to the Union until they can be sure that it's not another Hungary, and Georgia's democracy currently is basically the same as Hungary's, so it has a long way to go
@@fabulouscat3911"Georgias democracy is basically the same as Hungary"
So…. A democracy ? Got it 👍
@@MtiuliBichiEver heard of illiberal democracies?
@@riton349 Basically a democracy but without liberalism 👍
However Georgia is liberal.
@@MtiuliBichibro you all buy into russian anti-lgbt propaganda, you're not liberal
I don't think reclaiming South Ossetia and Abkhazia is a realistic outcome even if Russia loses in Ukraine. I also don't think NATO will truly have the political will to bring Georgia into the alliance, but EU membership is a more likely possibility, as territorial disputes are less of a concern (look at Cyprus, for example)
This is the result of European politics. They did not fulfill their 2008 promise - that Georgia would become a member of NATO
I am romanian. God bless the georgians. Abkhazia and Samachablo are Georgia
The summer of 2008 was very importan. I remember that in august i was in Berlin when the Russians invaded Georgia. The difference between what was said on Russian TV and western TV was telling, and personally important change of opinions.
The fact that the US did nothing the support the reforming emerging democracy, nothing at all, was a fatal mistake. This has convinced Putin that the US will not do anything to stand in the way of his imperialist ambitions.
And as I see it, it was the assertiveness of the EU in February 2022 that was unexpected. I welcome that change
That's exaggerating 😀 wtf
He is NAFO, his emblem is literally a throw back to NATO symbolism.
@@linusmayden8465 there was Saakashvili's pro western government before this government but they didn't give Georgia NATO map in may 2008, which would avoid Russian attack on Georgia august that year, but they didn't give map and now they talk this bs
You know Georgian and Russian people have good relationship on a basic level , Russians love Georgian products and Georgia gets to sell and trade in the Russian market so it's a win win, but to be fair the West ditched Georgia so nobody gets to come here and blame them when they don't escalate against Russia .
Georgia has no importance or financial interest to the west. I'm sure every invasion since the 1990's have showcased this:
1. Kuwait
2. Breakup of Yugoslavia (initially stepped away after the killing of civilians was so bad. They had to do something to save face)
3. Afghanistan to give them a sense of winning the war on terror. Moreover to fund their military complex. To search for resources as much has not been done in the modern era. It turned belly up, then they knew the Ukraine war was coming up.
Iraq. Everybody knows what went on there
Ukraine: There have been geological surveys to support natural gas reserves in the country. Why let the country fall into Russian influence when our corporations can make good in a huge agricultural sector, resource extraction & rebuilding the country in the image of Japan or South Korea.
Countries ignored
Rwanda
Burundi
Zimbabwe
DRC
West Africa (Under French influence historically Wagner has infiltrated now)
Myanmar
Pakistan
There are maybe a few I missed. My apologies.
The narrative is so extremely nuanced, for example Pakistan is ostensibly during the Cold War & pax Americanus a loyal ally. They trained Taliban fighters to infiltrate Afghanistan to regain control. They have been found to sponsor certain insurgent groups. American weapons supplied to Pakistan were used in terrorist attacks.
I hope you guys can read between the lines.
Not sure if the west ´´Ditched´´ Georgia.
That a´s a simplistic way of looking at it.
The EU is looking at Georgia´s development phases politically and socially and see if Georgia can stabilize towards a fair democracy so they are able to get EU perspective and further EU integration.
The reason why Europe isn´t interfering with Georgian politics and Georgian problems is rather simple.
Should the EU meddle in Georgian affairs then it means that the west gets blamed for sticking its nose other´s business.
But we all know even if the west is reluctant to help foreign countries in need, the EU or the west always gets blamed, you´re damned if you do you´re damned if you dont.
And it seems the problems in Georgia should not be EU´s problems.
If Georgia decides to go with Russia then Georgia is more then welcome to do so, but that also means no more talks with the EU or any relations with the west.
Its that simple.
People tend to blame the west for everything, but as soon as the west nowhere to be seen, then the west gets more blame heading its way.
However, it seems that Ukraine fairs a hell lot better the Georgia.
@@SiranoxzGeorgia is simply not an European country.
Do you notice that the countries ignored by the West and not intervened with were all African or Muslim ?
Or ruled by a military dictatorship ?
As a Georgian, I'd like to express my gratitude for creating this insightful video analysis. I want to emphasize that, despite attempting to present itself as pro-western, the Georgian Dream Party is, in fact, aligned with Kremlin interests, which contrasts with its self-proclaimed stance. in 2019 the government used brute force against its citizens to protect Ruzzian politicians in Tbilisi. Some youngsters lost their sight because of that Gavrilov's night.
Furthermore, a significant majority of Georgians - according to polls, about 85% - hold pro-western views and identify themselves as part of the European community. Staunch pro-European views are very tangible in the people and you can easily notice if you live in this country. Therefore, any political actions that deviate from this trajectory are seen as a betrayal of Georgia's sovereignty and independence. Embracing a pro-European stance entails safeguarding Georgia's chosen path of development. The Georgian people are determined in upholding their nation's territorial integrity and its commitment to a pro-western political direction, which is rooted not only in contemporary politics but also in historical aspirations.
If that is the case how does 'Georgian Dream' keep getting elected?
For three reasons:
1. Elections are held in an unequal and violent environment (the regime is moving towards autocracy);
2. The population is so impoverished and the number of civil servants is so inflated that this part of the population is practically on state subsidies. And they vote for the government, regardless of what their real political vision is;
3. National minorities always support the ruling party. Their number is 10%
And one more thing: the electoral system was arranged in such a way that the official parties always got the majority. You could have received 40% in the proportional part, but still, you would have found yourself in the constitutional majority.
Writer of the video here, glad to see you found the video good :)
When the USSR collapsed----15 independent states appeared. Sakartvel became much much freer. When Russia splits into 6 new states----'Georgia and all Caucasus will get real and long-lasting independence.
As someone called George, I'd like you to be free and able to speak your mind and vote for your leader in a fair election.
They’ve stepped into Russia’s line of fire, not Ukraine’s ;-) unless Ukraine is shooting at the Georgian Legion! I sure hope they aren’t. 😄
Great video. Being Georgian myself, i wish things change sooner than later.
This is not a video about history of Georgia, but I'll just add just as an information that Georgian states existed far earlier than the Romans or Persians even got to the outskirts of the Caucasus.
Adjara was inhabited by Georgians, it wasn't situation of an ethnic minority, it was situation of a religious minority. But truth is that it was the Ottomans' plan, they demanded Adjara to get autonomy in their negotiations, at first glance it was for defense of these Muslim Georgians, but in reality it was just a plan to sooner or later have casus belli to attack and annex Adjara, but after 70 years of USSR this plan was never initiated.
Saakashvili even though I really don't like him, didn't escalate anything. Russians were constantly shooting towards Georgians for months before Georgia even answered. A few hours before Georgia started bombardment, Saakashvili asked for peace talks and it was first accepted by Russia and it was broken within a few hours, Georgia didn't really have any other options, this war would happen regardless of what Saakashvili or Georgia would do, just like in Ukraine 2022.
Ivanishvili is just a Russian Oligarch, while I acknowledge that the West has been spineless in regards to Georgia, was it in 2008 or legitimizitation of Ivanishvili's government again and again. This also comes with a mass propaganda from Russia that is supported by Georgian Dream and its use for their interests, the lack of general education in Georgian society also doesn't help, situation seems devastating, and if Georgian Dream wins again 2024 I don't think Georgia's future will be bright.
Ivanishvili is a hero of Georgia who saved the country from disaster. His name will be remembered for thousands of years as an example of a good citizen.
@@giopa110888 Lmao
An there is no massive EU propaganda, right?
The war was totally idiotic and it's good that traitor of Georgia was treated by Georgian people as he was.
He ensured absolute hate of Georgia by people of both separatist regions.
What are Georgian plans, maybe a little genocide to clear "your" land?
The Ossetians and Abkhazians have their own side of the story which is published around their own articles and websites. They don't view themselves as Georgians, but I get it "self-determination for me but not for thee." You can try to blame Russia as much as you want but countless Western sources have already said through investigation like this report from DW, "According to the report." carried out by Swiss diplomat Heidi Tagliavini and presented to the European Union on Wednesday, there is no evidence to support Georgia's claim that Russia had already sent troops to annex South Ossetia before Georgia began its attack on the region's capital Tskhinvali on the night of August 7/8 2008.
"There was no ongoing armed attack by Russia before the start of the Georgian operation," the report said. "There is the question of whether the use of force by Georgia in South Ossetia ... was justifiable under international law. It was not."
Very informative. Thank you.
Really hope Georgia will join the path of economic progress and freedom and leave the primitive Russian world behind once and for all.
hei dude get your facts straight what armenians ? when was Georgia part of armenia? maybe other way around a lot you might have missed on some crucial bit of info regarding the 2008 nato summit and treacherous actions by the germans and french which as it seems was vital for ruzzian aggressions of the few years
Georgia belonged to the Armenian kingdom/Empire back when the Iberian Kingdom (before the first Gerogian Kingdom formed from the union of Iberia and Abkhazia) was a subject of Armenia and as such it was a part of the Armenian empire, like how Afghanistan was part of the British empire between the second British-Afghan war and the Afghan revolution.
It would have been preferable to write this in more detail, though tonkeep the video's focus on the modern day required for this to be summarised as part of explaining how Georgia was at one point under the Armenians.
@@alehaimSouthern part of Georgia was part of Armenian kingdom. Georgia itself was never part of Armenian kingdom.
As Russian I am grateful to our Georgian brothers, who helped us to break thru criminal western sanctions and import many goods and weapons. Together we stand against horrible Western imperialism and we will win for sure. Georgia always got much more from Russia then from EU and they are on the right side of history now.
As a Georgian, I suggest that you screw thyself!
💪🇺🇦🇬🇪❤️
Don't forget about 1000s of Georgians fighting on Russian side. They are mostly AFAIK withing Donbas forces of RF.
They're really heroes.
Russia always behaving like if the world belongs to them 💩🇷🇺 the same who complains about US meddling 😂😂😂😂😂 SLAVA UKRAINA 🇺🇦❤️ FREEDOM FOR GEORGIA 🇬🇪
Lol, US started many more wars than Russia and using sanctions bends the will of free people.
Than God for China rise. We need some balance.
There's no glory to neo-nazi state and there's no freedom to NATO puppets.