Elsie's having the base stats of No Time to Explain (before either of their perks) is both a funny nod to the weapon but also devastating to other aggressive pulses. xD
Elsie's has decent competition. Red death for the healing allowing kill streaks. Messenger is just better due to the perfect recoil even more so if you have an old roll with zen. NTTe itself. And you could probably cook something with the solar H.I from crucible if you use elemental. High impacts are strong af.
@@fotis3v480Honestly I'll take an Elsie's with Zen over my God roll messenger any day of the week. The sights are waaaay cleaner and easier to hit shots with. Plus it pets me run the new craftable Pale Heart shotty, which is hard meta for that slot.
@@yamms5118 preference i guess. Shotties i use the someday but i feel like i lose oneshots i shouldn't so I crafted a ranghild with ele and i just have 53range 100 handling at all timed and it feels nice.
Me.going into trials with my new light buddies : " Aight , we got this" Bungie : " Ok , youre gonna face Cammycakes and Frostbolt in your first match "
The most frustrating match I ever had in comp was a Foetracer Hunter using Revoker around when it released. I was playing Titan in that match, and ended up having to switch to flashbangs just to push him. Super obnoxious to play against
Personally I wouldn't call this exotic a crutch before the buff. After the buff is good but I'll always respect this over a stompee or wormhusk huntard. Keep using what you like man.
Thank you for reigniting my love for this exotic. I just had my best game in a long time using this build and weapons. Playing with people's radar while enhancing your own is a lot of fun to play around with, and while they're lost from an overwhelmed radar, you have a tracer on them through walls leading to easy kills.
Ah Knucklehead, my go to "I can use this with any weapon combo and on any subclass and have it be impactful" since I started in early year 2 LONG before old foetracer's perks got rolled into it. Simply having radar while ads and the enhanced radar was useful for being able to cover a lane and knowing if your getting flanked ... add wallhacks to that and you know exactly how an enemy is moving when they get behind cover mid gunfight ... and that doesn't account for the AE buff it gives It's just a really solid neutral game exotic
I love the parallel you make to stomp33z in the video since (even before its massive buff) I've always kind of thought that knucklehead radar is to more passive play what stomp33z is to aggressive play in that they don't really pigeonhole you into those playstyles, but they can massively accentuate them and make you part of the problem.
Wanna know something crazy? I used pre-rework Foetracer all the time - loved the thing, particularly with auto rifles (especially 600s - to help counter peekshooting) but because of the rework and it being merged into Knucklehead, I never really used the new Knucklehead. Why? Because I don't have a knucklehead with even half-decent armor stats.
NGL, Knucklehead carried me on my Hunter last season. It also helps that primary gunplay was more effective last season too. I made it all the way to Ascendant III with KH and double HCs, only swapping to special for my 2 promotion matches. I like to call Knucklehead my Sharingan / Byakugan.
Knuckle head is mean with crimson (ew) and echo for over shield on kill (hunter oem). Not only this but smokes and jesters dont take knuckle radar. Its very underrated bc its not stompies. (Am a stompie main)
I've been using Knucklehead too much lately and I never took it off unless I'm using Ace. That free comsat is just too good to pass~ Also blink on hunter, its the perfect getaway from all of them W holding shotgun maniacs.
I used both knucklehead and foetracer all the time before they were combined, can't believe they put the two of them onto one exotic. Its absolutely busted and I'm so upset cammy is making this more well known lol
If I'm not running omni invis I'm using knuckles. Tracker + always mini is just too good. As someone who's not using a headset/low sound it give me huge awareness. Basically only exotic I use for trials
I definitely underestimated knucklehead, the first match I tried it in dropped a 40 bomb. The peak shots while using dmt hipfire against marked targets feels like cheating.
Stompees, Chaperone, and Riposte was my loadout about half the time last weekend during trials. It's a lot of fun but it makes me miss the old Way of the Wraith and Graviton Forfeit combo. Shit was stupid broken lol
Fastest primary ttk weapon type at range, easy to get, doesn't take up an exotic slot, good stats. You literally cannot compete with a high impact pulse sometimes unless you also have one on.
I’ve always mained knucklehead even before they buff/merged it with foetracer. I crutch on that radar hard and now with the wall hacks it is pretty free.
Seeing how effortlessly you use blink makes me feel like I can try it. But then every time I can’t make a single jump as intended. lol. Console player.
Knucklehead is my most used pvp exotic for Hunter. Anytime I take it off, I feel like I can't do anything. Ya, Stompees are cool and all but the info Knucklehead gives for just playing is crazy.
Catching up on your vids, I ran the gamble Feedback fence build yesterday taking a whopping 16 melee kills, many of which were assisted with the diamond lance melee, absolute scam but also insane risk, took a lot of broken eggs to get that kinda flow. Also Boudica with x5 Swash is a complete scam.
Started using it this season and its great. Only issue is I worry about becoming dependent on the highlight feature. It also relaxes TTK on some guns, including red dead when you have radiant. Still like the stand spiderman mask tho, i find the flinch reduction nice.
As a Knucklehead Radar Hunter main who started maining Warlock this season, I actually became worst from crutching KH on Hunter. I overpush on my lane peeks, because I'm used to strafing faster, having dodge to return to cover, and knowing when the enemy is going to peek. I also ads too much and for too long. I've been fixing my bad habits, but I would recommend Thorn for the dmg number tags through walls, or Ace / Mida if you are trying to switch from KH Hunter to Warlock. Also, the 4m/s crouch speed on T-steps is goated, but still it feels weird going from strafe god with tier 8-10 mobility, down to tier 1- 4 mobility max. And I used to complain that mobility was a useless stat when I mained Hunter.
It is stupid good. Early this season I got tired of getting ran over and put on knucklehead and Elsie rifle I got to a 2.0 kd, got incredibly bored and stopped playing crucible.
They nerfed glaive melee, I used winterbite to win close battles when i had no fusion ammo to outlunge shottys and ko titans or melee through hunter clones, it was litterly a free extra weapon, you could hold it out off trials spawn and peek middle and block sniper shots with no risk. Just crazy all glaives got shadow nerfed
I wish Warlock had something similar to Knucklehead or One Eyed Mask. Sanguine used to be similar in the past, but I actually haven't seen footage of old Sanguine in pvp, so Idk how good or bad it actually was.
The issue with OEM was the heals+overshield after getting a kill on wallhacked target,basically no cooldown and the perks were up all the time. OEM is still super good,just not broken anymore,I run into it a lot in trials.
@@moist_bluedon't forget it used to give like a 15% dmg against whoever shot you. Meaning you win no matter what after getting shot then you get full healed.
7.5% of players, 14% of hunters
Erm ok pal 🤓👍
@@micahschatz8001 did you get it tho
@@micahschatz8001 shut up nerd
roughly 54% of people playing hunter?
may i draw yoru atteenion to the descriptio
Elsie's having the base stats of No Time to Explain (before either of their perks) is both a funny nod to the weapon but also devastating to other aggressive pulses. xD
Elsie's has decent competition.
Red death for the healing allowing kill streaks.
Messenger is just better due to the perfect recoil even more so if you have an old roll with zen.
NTTe itself.
And you could probably cook something with the solar H.I from crucible if you use elemental.
High impacts are strong af.
@@fotis3v480Honestly I'll take an Elsie's with Zen over my God roll messenger any day of the week. The sights are waaaay cleaner and easier to hit shots with. Plus it pets me run the new craftable Pale Heart shotty, which is hard meta for that slot.
@@yamms5118 preference i guess. Shotties i use the someday but i feel like i lose oneshots i shouldn't so I crafted a ranghild with ele and i just have 53range 100 handling at all timed and it feels nice.
@@yamms5118why someday when you still have conditional? Even if it did take a nerf 80 handling on an aggressive is nutty.
@@CosmosCat Because I don't have conditional 👉😎👉
“Let’s prevent this mercy” GigaChad talk
Talk with skill to back it up 😮💨😏
Me.going into trials with my new light buddies : " Aight , we got this"
Bungie : " Ok , youre gonna face Cammycakes and Frostbolt in your first match "
Cammy + Frost, last team stood no chance 😅
Ong most rigged matchmaking I've ever seen, lol. I don't think it mattered even if their teammate was a new light on their first card lol
My fav destiny 2 combo tbh
Unfortunately, that wasn't the real Frostbolt. The real Frobby is #3385, the one he was matched with was #9114.
@@Blooblee3106 oh yup ur right
If u pair knuckles and Thorn, u can basically two taps because the marked low health enemy takes increase tick dmg.
Will go try this ty
@@daquancurry7805update?
The extra AE provided by knucklehead plus compensator mod, Icarus and perfect float allow my exhalted truth to have 100AE which is handy as well
I rock it like that with malfeasance which has like 67 base Ae iirc lol
Dead on in air lol
The most frustrating match I ever had in comp was a Foetracer Hunter using Revoker around when it released. I was playing Titan in that match, and ended up having to switch to flashbangs just to push him. Super obnoxious to play against
you have actually helped me improve so much on roller, I went from trying to be flashy and shit to playing slow and I frag out wat more now
NGL Knucklehead has been my crutch even before its buff.
Personally I wouldn't call this exotic a crutch before the buff. After the buff is good but I'll always respect this over a stompee or wormhusk huntard. Keep using what you like man.
@@ShadowNemesis575m8 trust this thing can be crutch worthy. Radar so strong always having it becomes a crutch and lowkey forms bad habits.
Hunters who ran Knucklehead before the merge were always bot walking with pulse rifles.
if I'm not using ace or mida I'm using this ngl
@@ShadowNemesis575the entire class is a crutch
Thank you for reigniting my love for this exotic. I just had my best game in a long time using this build and weapons. Playing with people's radar while enhancing your own is a lot of fun to play around with, and while they're lost from an overwhelmed radar, you have a tracer on them through walls leading to easy kills.
Ah Knucklehead, my go to "I can use this with any weapon combo and on any subclass and have it be impactful" since I started in early year 2 LONG before old foetracer's perks got rolled into it.
Simply having radar while ads and the enhanced radar was useful for being able to cover a lane and knowing if your getting flanked ... add wallhacks to that and you know exactly how an enemy is moving when they get behind cover mid gunfight ... and that doesn't account for the AE buff it gives
It's just a really solid neutral game exotic
I love knuckle head with revision because the 2 burst mode get alot of dmg glitches
little frostbolt cameo at the end there
I've been rocking Knucklehead since D1 and red war, almost never seen people rocking it tho
I don't even play destiny that much let alone the PvP and I still watch Cammy's vids
14% of hunters
Knucklehead made it feel like I could actually fight against the other team in the hardware mode goin on right now
I love the parallel you make to stomp33z in the video since (even before its massive buff) I've always kind of thought that knucklehead radar is to more passive play what stomp33z is to aggressive play in that they don't really pigeonhole you into those playstyles, but they can massively accentuate them and make you part of the problem.
Wanna know something crazy?
I used pre-rework Foetracer all the time - loved the thing, particularly with auto rifles (especially 600s - to help counter peekshooting) but because of the rework and it being merged into Knucklehead, I never really used the new Knucklehead.
Why?
Because I don't have a knucklehead with even half-decent armor stats.
A wild Frostbolt appeared
Been maining knucklehead since it was foetracer
NGL, Knucklehead carried me on my Hunter last season. It also helps that primary gunplay was more effective last season too. I made it all the way to Ascendant III with KH and double HCs, only swapping to special for my 2 promotion matches. I like to call Knucklehead my Sharingan / Byakugan.
Knuckle head is mean with crimson (ew) and echo for over shield on kill (hunter oem). Not only this but smokes and jesters dont take knuckle radar. Its very underrated bc its not stompies. (Am a stompie main)
Jester's actually can take your radar down, if you aren't ADS
@@LivingTheorem abd when you aim after it's taken down you get radar back.
I've been using Knucklehead too much lately and I never took it off unless I'm using Ace. That free comsat is just too good to pass~
Also blink on hunter, its the perfect getaway from all of them W holding shotgun maniacs.
I used both knucklehead and foetracer all the time before they were combined, can't believe they put the two of them onto one exotic. Its absolutely busted and I'm so upset cammy is making this more well known lol
If I'm not running omni invis I'm using knuckles. Tracker + always mini is just too good. As someone who's not using a headset/low sound it give me huge awareness. Basically only exotic I use for trials
When I decided to sweat in Trials, I used the Knuckle Head. It made hitting head shots on controller so easy.
played you twice this past weekend , i think my whole squad was using it (3 of us). I recently just swapped to it and im in love.
I definitely underestimated knucklehead, the first match I tried it in dropped a 40 bomb. The peak shots while using dmt hipfire against marked targets feels like cheating.
Stompees, Chaperone, and Riposte was my loadout about half the time last weekend during trials. It's a lot of fun but it makes me miss the old Way of the Wraith and Graviton Forfeit combo. Shit was stupid broken lol
Since The final shape, knucklehead and Cold Denial have NOT come off. So good.
This is kinda why I was just happy with its niche perk just the radar now it’s going to get ripped apart.
this got me my first flawless several momths back when sphrz talked about it. it is absurdly good.
Can you make a vid abt why you value Elsie’s rifle so much in the current meta?
it's a 340rpm pulse rifle with zen moment and high stats, what else is there to say?
Fastest primary ttk weapon type at range, easy to get, doesn't take up an exotic slot, good stats. You literally cannot compete with a high impact pulse sometimes unless you also have one on.
I’ve always mained knucklehead even before they buff/merged it with foetracer. I crutch on that radar hard and now with the wall hacks it is pretty free.
More good info, thanks for the time and effort into all these vids.
I'm attached to Frosty at the hip. I did notice some things about this exotic. I wasn't paying attention to. So might throw it on more
Seeing how effortlessly you use blink makes me feel like I can try it. But then every time I can’t make a single jump as intended. lol. Console player.
THE INFO STICK with the big play! :D
What happened with the grapple at 18:24?
Shhh don’t let them know. I’ve been abusing this wall hack exotic with red death to get my comp maxed out.
Knucklehead is my most used pvp exotic for Hunter. Anytime I take it off, I feel like I can't do anything. Ya, Stompees are cool and all but the info Knucklehead gives for just playing is crazy.
Learn how to aim, fixes the issue I find.
second match was clutch, beautiful to see
Casually slipped in the collaboration with frost
Laning larries gonna love this one
Catching up on your vids, I ran the gamble Feedback fence build yesterday taking a whopping 16 melee kills, many of which were assisted with the diamond lance melee, absolute scam but also insane risk, took a lot of broken eggs to get that kinda flow.
Also Boudica with x5 Swash is a complete scam.
Oh boy i wish i had a tuned-down version of release OEM
Huntrrs for 6 fucking years:
Original OEM was still 5x as strong, not to mention that knucklehead has only been good since the foetracer merge
Knucklehead was only good since they merged it with Foetracer lol
Started using it this season and its great. Only issue is I worry about becoming dependent on the highlight feature.
It also relaxes TTK on some guns, including red dead when you have radiant. Still like the stand spiderman mask tho, i find the flinch reduction nice.
As a Knucklehead Radar Hunter main who started maining Warlock this season, I actually became worst from crutching KH on Hunter. I overpush on my lane peeks, because I'm used to strafing faster, having dodge to return to cover, and knowing when the enemy is going to peek. I also ads too much and for too long. I've been fixing my bad habits, but I would recommend Thorn for the dmg number tags through walls, or Ace / Mida if you are trying to switch from KH Hunter to Warlock. Also, the 4m/s crouch speed on T-steps is goated, but still it feels weird going from strafe god with tier 8-10 mobility, down to tier 1- 4 mobility max. And I used to complain that mobility was a useless stat when I mained Hunter.
sounds fun but.... stompees has me by the neck lmao
literally the exact loadout i was using yesterday stop blowing up my spot bruh
The 1% of hunters on arc are some weirdos with 5+ kds garunteed
The tracking was Bungies nerf. You can't be a ninja any longer because of the tracking notification.
It is stupid good. Early this season I got tired of getting ran over and put on knucklehead and Elsie rifle
I got to a 2.0 kd, got incredibly bored and stopped playing crucible.
Been using it ever since they combined Foetracer into it!
They nerfed glaive melee, I used winterbite to win close battles when i had no fusion ammo to outlunge shottys and ko titans or melee through hunter clones, it was litterly a free extra weapon, you could hold it out off trials spawn and peek middle and block sniper shots with no risk. Just crazy all glaives got shadow nerfed
Im happy
I've been looking for a fun new exotic to use on Arcstrider.
Might have to try this.
I wish Warlock had something similar to Knucklehead or One Eyed Mask. Sanguine used to be similar in the past, but I actually haven't seen footage of old Sanguine in pvp, so Idk how good or bad it actually was.
isn’t facet of solitude and the strand equivalent bugged? i thought sever wasn’t working in PvP?
It’s the best exotic to run with box breathing 180s imo
CAMMY NO! DON'T TELL THEM ABOUT MY FAVORITE UNDERRATED EXOTIC
You're pretty smooth. Good job.
I have always use Knucklehead Radar in 3v3 the foe tracer thing is nice now though.
Coincidental Frostbolt collab at the end, ayo???
Elsie’s is a laser on PC holy shit
Do you think elsie’s rifle will make a return I kinda missed out on it 😢
You can still get it though. Onslaught is still here and recently they added attunement options back again.
Its funny as ive always loved the knucklehead. Back in d1 it was super usefull and it has been since
Hey cammy, what’s your sense on mnk?
Knuckle with box breathing 180scout and radar boosters is ai4s.
If you can't beat em Join them.
@Cammycakes - do you think knucklehead is as good for K&M? Also, why are you mostly playing controller lately?
I've mailed knucklehead radar since 2018. Is that not the norm? I just keep ADS with Crimson and walk around pvp
Seems like way more than 7.5% on knucklehead.
hardcore crutch exotic on a hardcore crutch class
I see that you jumped on the no waisted stat builds….
Been tryna put my hunter mains on but no one would listen😔
1. Chaperon's catalyst needs to be its D1 exotic perk that didn't get brought over
2. #DisablePrismaticIn"Competitive"PvP
What’s ur controller sens ?
I keep it on my Hunter in crucible
I’m just shocked knucklehead and stomp have stuck til this day. I haven’t played since base d2
Knucklehead got a major buff last year when it basically got fused with Foetracer
What is the best for proccing solitude other then not showering
Okay but what are you doing with a masterworked Blight Ranger
Blight Ranger in Momentum Control/Mayhem is the funniest thing ever lol.
i was using this when it was just foetracer's perks
you are a content factory cammy
It’s the only hunter Exotic I’ll use in PvP
Yo peep his stats 100 20 100 70 70 20 🤤
Heard you say "hella" are you from norcal? We norcal folks use that word
Foetracer cant be called foetracer no more
Try knuckle with malph, so much ae plus the peaks with wall hacks, so good
such clean gameplay, wow.
the new one eye mask，and titan didnt have it
knucklehead also the cheater starter pack to cover for their hacks
0:22 Should I not have deleted that?
Nope
2024 RIP Radar…
Knucklehead Radar needs a nerf. Way too easy to just remain ads and play passive. The addition of wall hacks put it over the top.
Knucklehead is disgusting right now. I win so many fights just off the wall hacks and that’s only one of the benefits
Revert the Ahamkara nerf then, Bungie I dare you.
i love monopolizing information 💸💸💸📈📈📈
ive always used knucklehead in pvp
hold up whats the drip
Find it weird that wall hacks in OEM was SO OP. Yet they give hunters full radar up time and free wall hacks for just looking at someone.
The issue with OEM was the heals+overshield after getting a kill on wallhacked target,basically no cooldown and the perks were up all the time.
OEM is still super good,just not broken anymore,I run into it a lot in trials.
@@moist_bluedon't forget it used to give like a 15% dmg against whoever shot you. Meaning you win no matter what after getting shot then you get full healed.
@@ghostridernz17 Christ so it was basically radiant against anyone so much as tagged you huh
One eyed mask marking feels so bad
@@Samsonfs it’s basically the same one as knucklehead though