One more thing to consider, since Mavuika is an archon and a very important and popular character, Hoyoverse might release characters that synergise well with her in the future. But for now, Citlali is not necessarily a worse character than Mavuika and can be better depending on your account. And don't forget Citlali is cryo....... She might never come back ~
Irrational. Mavuika is the best Carry and sub dps in the game by far, is better than all the other characters, how is not better than citlali being a niche mavuika support that doesn't do a better job than other characters outside Mavuika teams. Completely abdsolutely irrational.
@@gamingtemplar9893you might just be biased. She can output huge nuke numbers but without natlan characters (mostly Xilonen) the uptime will be poor and she would lose the dmg bonus after her burst. Without that, Arlecchino would outperform her. And again, as said in the video, Xiangling might just be a better sub dps outside of Natlan teams which are quite niche so you are being irrational here
@@gamingtemplar9893Also, how are you going to say that Citlali will only be good in Mavuika teams when Arlecchino will get a huge buff through melt teams and res shred and Chasca might just be getting one of her BiS support as well enabling her bullets to have the cinder scroll buff + melts
Citlali is low-key op. Her pyro res shred makes her the perfect melt support making pyro carries like Arle & even Hu tao op. If you have either of these you won't even need mavuika to hard pyro carry. She even makes Yanfei able to carry abyss & IT
Cit is not needed if you already have zhongli you can melt in thousands of ways already and she's not necessary if you don't have zhongli, it's an alternative good option yeah a lot of people hate Mauvika but she's definitely gonna be another future proof character like other Archons. even if she falls down on dps, her off field pyro application will never fall off and it's already better than anyone else in the game paired with Natlan's support artifact set
I collect Archons but I lost at Xilonen's banner. Based on why I gathered from theory crafters, Mavuika without Xilonen feels handicapped as a dps. Using her as a sub dps brings little to no value to my current roster. So I'll pull for Citlali first since she'll complete my Chasca team. Then try to get Mavuika with my remaining f2p funds
Mauvika is too expensive to be a slightly better upgrade to Xiangling. Mauvika will get powercreep by Snezhnaya pyro dps’s so this is why the other archons are better because they were first supports and then dps if people wanted. Raiden mains are a good example, they like her and go C3R1.
Citlali shreds Hydro resistance alongside Pyro, so she will be a buff to Freeze teams that specifically have a Hydro DPS. I don’t know much about Tartaglia Freeze teams, so you can experiment to see if it will work better than International. Citlali unfortunately does not buff Cryo directly, so the only increase in damage will be for your Pyro/Hydro sub DPS with Ganyu on field, and at that point, you will have to determine if that’s worth the trade off for Shenhe’s dedicated Cryo buffs.
I don't know who this mavuika is, but Citlali certainly is better than The Bike. The Bike is a supposed Archon but isn't nearly as versatile as the previous ones.
It is not about stress, it is about people scamming, lying, hating and saying irrational things like this guy. Mavuika is the best character, it's NUMBERS, math, doesn't matter what this idiot says. All the anti Mavuika arguments starting by "bike not realistic" are absolutely low IQ nonsense. Citlali is a character that only works with Mavuika. Everything these people say is false and it is opposite of what they say. If you watch an actual DECENT review you will see it and there are numbers by theorycrafters, it's all there. Anddad made the full review of the character with all the data by theory crafters and the right arguments and point of views.
Tbh As much as supportive mavuika feel a bit overwhelming and doesn’t offer much as new characters that could utilise pyro will definitely be designed to need her
@@gamingtemplar9893 a nice big glaze but i understand your hype I mean for start you need xilonen if you want high dmg ult and higher dmg boost from her passive which is somewhat low tbh 40% Until shes out for some time and most ppl try her unsure how she will feel but as i said in the first comment the game will be designed to fit her for the upcoming months
and one thing to consider, mavuika is an archon, and archon will be almost guarantee to be rerun on later patch, but citlali is not. So if you have low primos and not sure what to pull, i think you should pull citlali first
the only archon who aint being played is venti, so im pulling for the archon, Zhongli is still in my rotation, Raiden is still in my rota, as well as nahida and furina so defo going for archon
Furina gives 40%bonus dmg and is 97% usage rate, mavuika does the same and crazy dps, how she not must pull? Is like saying furina is not must pull. But if u don't care of none of that. Then just pull whoever u want. I personally will try to get both but mavuika is priority.
Where did you got that information? Furina is an amazing sub dps that gives 75% dmg bonus and not 40%? Also, she can heal, enables the usage of marechaussee hunter and an atk%/hp%/em goblet due to her high dmg bonus. She is most characters best in slot, has high uptime and has really good early cons. Mavuika is a niche dps depending on Xilonen (and Citlali) for good uptime and to outperform Arlecchino. As a sup dps she is outperformed by Xiangling in not natlan comps and her 40%? (Thought it was 50%) dmg bonus uptime isn‘t high since it decays over time only giving 25% after 6 seconds. She is not a must pull but will probably be the strongest character with her premium supports
@tmth.nts16 ur right 75 percent for furina, typo and mavuika is about the same with support artifact. I'm furina main and mavuika I'm telling u is on par with her tho in dmg and support even not exactly the same. U don't think she's must pull let's just agree to disagree.
I'm pulling for Mavuika, I've seen her gameplay and I'm really into it, I also wanna try and get Citlali since she's oke of the best supports for Mavuika, I also have Xilonen. Btw can someone tell me if I could replace Citlali (in case I don't get her) with Shenhe or any other cryo unit please
She is not only NOT better, she is worse than most characters in the game, and the only utility for citlali is helping mavuika reach max power. Mavuika is the best character in the game, after Mavuika there are many other including Zhongli better than Citlali. Saying Mavuika is not better than citlali is absolutely stupid.
So she have decent cryo off field capability, have a shield, can shred enemy pyro and cryo resistance and can use hero scroll. Yet Is worst than mavuika which apply pyro once every 2 second off field her buffing capabilities required another natlan character to utilise and she is just another pyro dps which we already have like ton of, that can be powercreep by upcoming Snezhnaya character.
@ maybe im too used to yelan and xingqui application speed. Hers seem slow. Its not fast as theirs which is disappointing for me personally. Maybe ill have to test her to see if im satisfied with it
It think she literally perfect for hu tao melt. She have a shield to protect her, pyro shred enemy resistance, off field subdps capability and she can use hero scroll to farther buff hu tao damage.
Hu Tao's Pyro application is too fast so I don't think Citlali will work with her, unless there's some tech, we need to wait till release to try it out.
I mean if I'm being honest if you are on 50 50 then you'll need like 28800 primogems just to be safe and get one character if you're super unlucky. But if lucks on your side then 90 pulls should suffice (about 14400 primogems)
Why are you still using Raiden Onfield DPS when you already have Mavuika? her C0 as a DPS can beat Raiden C3 even with the best team (C6 benet, C6 sara, C6 chev) just put your Raiden in the bench, she already expired.
They are both disappointing an underwhelming. Makes me question whether I even want to play nowadays. It's ridiculous when 3 year old units consistently outperform the newest ones in convenience, team compatibility and everything except damage output. Zhongli's shield and resistance shred are both better by a lot. Xiangling's application and off field damage beats the archon too unless you count the archon's burst with a Natlan team to refill fighting spirit as off field damage. And Citali scales on a stat that Cryo characters don't even want.
They are doing a good job at keeping old units relevant. Imagine you summoned a C6 Arlecchino and then a C2 Mavuika comes around and does more damage while having better mobility. This would be the case if this was Honkai Star Rail. But I agree so far Natlan was a skip for me as I've only summoned for Zhongli and Mualani on my 2nd acc.
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One more thing to consider, since Mavuika is an archon and a very important and popular character, Hoyoverse might release characters that synergise well with her in the future. But for now, Citlali is not necessarily a worse character than Mavuika and can be better depending on your account.
And don't forget Citlali is cryo.......
She might never come back ~
Irrational. Mavuika is the best Carry and sub dps in the game by far, is better than all the other characters, how is not better than citlali being a niche mavuika support that doesn't do a better job than other characters outside Mavuika teams. Completely abdsolutely irrational.
@@gamingtemplar9893you might just be biased. She can output huge nuke numbers but without natlan characters (mostly Xilonen) the uptime will be poor and she would lose the dmg bonus after her burst. Without that, Arlecchino would outperform her. And again, as said in the video, Xiangling might just be a better sub dps outside of Natlan teams which are quite niche so you are being irrational here
@@gamingtemplar9893Also, how are you going to say that Citlali will only be good in Mavuika teams when Arlecchino will get a huge buff through melt teams and res shred and Chasca might just be getting one of her BiS support as well enabling her bullets to have the cinder scroll buff + melts
Why not pull for both of em? 🙃
Me trying to if weapon banner goes well😅
@animxplay For me it's Mavuika > Citlali> mav's weap... let's hope we both get lucky 💪🏻
@@muneer8256 ❤️👍
exactly
Me wanting both, with weapons and maybe a c2. I am screwed 😅
Citlali also is a 3 in 1 package. You get her Plushies Itzpapa and Citlalin too when you pull for her.
Citlali is low-key op. Her pyro res shred makes her the perfect melt support making pyro carries like Arle & even Hu tao op. If you have either of these you won't even need mavuika to hard pyro carry. She even makes Yanfei able to carry abyss & IT
if it is an Archon. say no more just pull
I've always thought the same thing, but... I really don't need a Pyro dps and I think Citlali will be really powerfull, sooo what do I doo
My vendetta against Bennett circle impact will not be complete without Xiangling replacemant.
Cit is not needed if you already have zhongli
you can melt in thousands of ways already and she's not necessary
if you don't have zhongli, it's an alternative good option yeah
a lot of people hate Mauvika but she's definitely gonna be another future proof character like other Archons.
even if she falls down on dps, her off field pyro application will never fall off and it's already better than anyone else in the game paired with Natlan's support artifact set
I collect Archons but I lost at Xilonen's banner. Based on why I gathered from theory crafters, Mavuika without Xilonen feels handicapped as a dps. Using her as a sub dps brings little to no value to my current roster.
So I'll pull for Citlali first since she'll complete my Chasca team. Then try to get Mavuika with my remaining f2p funds
+mavuika will come back after 4patches but we're most uncertain about grany itzilli's comeback
Yea she's Archon so she'll get a rerun in a few patches where as Citlali is Cryo 5 star and we know how lucky Cryo 5 stars are with reruns. 😂
@@TimNewmanGaming considering da wei's bias towards hydro over cryo, I guess we will see Citlali in a couple of years
Mauvika is too expensive to be a slightly better upgrade to Xiangling. Mauvika will get powercreep by Snezhnaya pyro dps’s so this is why the other archons are better because they were first supports and then dps if people wanted. Raiden mains are a good example, they like her and go C3R1.
I don't have a pyro dps. And I will be pulling fir Skirk, rumoured to be Cryo and Xilonen anyways. So Mavuika might be a quick burst dps with
I will just let the weapon banner devide for me😂
Interesting strategy 😂, what happens if a non banner weapon drops 😜
@lootheistyt7289 Then cry and pull for the confirmed weapon.
My Kaveh really needs a good claymore.
Does Citlali bring any benefit for Cryo characters; or even Hydro? For example Ganyu and Tartaglia, I main them
Citlali shreds Hydro resistance alongside Pyro, so she will be a buff to Freeze teams that specifically have a Hydro DPS. I don’t know much about Tartaglia Freeze teams, so you can experiment to see if it will work better than International. Citlali unfortunately does not buff Cryo directly, so the only increase in damage will be for your Pyro/Hydro sub DPS with Ganyu on field, and at that point, you will have to determine if that’s worth the trade off for Shenhe’s dedicated Cryo buffs.
I don't know who this mavuika is, but Citlali certainly is better than The Bike. The Bike is a supposed Archon but isn't nearly as versatile as the previous ones.
im just gonna stick with layla but might get citlali on her rerun
I want Citlali, but want to save up for another 5 star, so I’m at a crossroads on whether to pull on the banner at all
Guys just get both and stop stressing… you’re getting a lot of primos in 5.3
But the banner ends at half way right ?
@@telegra157 yep
It is not about stress, it is about people scamming, lying, hating and saying irrational things like this guy. Mavuika is the best character, it's NUMBERS, math, doesn't matter what this idiot says. All the anti Mavuika arguments starting by "bike not realistic" are absolutely low IQ nonsense. Citlali is a character that only works with Mavuika. Everything these people say is false and it is opposite of what they say. If you watch an actual DECENT review you will see it and there are numbers by theorycrafters, it's all there. Anddad made the full review of the character with all the data by theory crafters and the right arguments and point of views.
"A lot of primos" Is a bit of a stretch
Yh, we're getting primos but not enough to guarantee 2 five stars
Me having only Gaming at c6 as the only pyro DPS is a win for me, so going for Mav and likely to get Citlai when luck and primos cooperate.
Tbh
As much as supportive mavuika feel a bit overwhelming and doesn’t offer much as new characters that could utilise pyro will definitely be designed to need her
who told you that? Mavuika is the best character in the game.
@@gamingtemplar9893 a nice big glaze but i understand your hype
I mean for start you need xilonen if you want high dmg ult and higher dmg boost from her passive which is somewhat low tbh 40%
Until shes out for some time and most ppl try her unsure how she will feel but as i said in the first comment the game will be designed to fit her for the upcoming months
Cetlali is more beautiful
i just want a motorcycle😭
SO REAL. That’s the only reason I am pulling her😭
and one thing to consider, mavuika is an archon, and archon will be almost guarantee to be rerun on later patch, but citlali is not. So if you have low primos and not sure what to pull, i think you should pull citlali first
the only archon who aint being played is venti, so im pulling for the archon, Zhongli is still in my rotation, Raiden is still in my rota, as well as nahida and furina so defo going for archon
Cope. Everyone should've pulled Xilonen anyway. And we have tons of good supports, too.
Some people skipped Xilonen specifically to save for Mavuika lol
@@FuzzyBaloney I skipped because I don't like her and my Furina does a better job.
@@Seraph_op I skipped her too bc I don’t like her. I don’t plan on getting her
Furina gives 40%bonus dmg and is 97% usage rate, mavuika does the same and crazy dps, how she not must pull? Is like saying furina is not must pull. But if u don't care of none of that. Then just pull whoever u want. I personally will try to get both but mavuika is priority.
Where did you got that information? Furina is an amazing sub dps that gives 75% dmg bonus and not 40%? Also, she can heal, enables the usage of marechaussee hunter and an atk%/hp%/em goblet due to her high dmg bonus. She is most characters best in slot, has high uptime and has really good early cons. Mavuika is a niche dps depending on Xilonen (and Citlali) for good uptime and to outperform Arlecchino. As a sup dps she is outperformed by Xiangling in not natlan comps and her 40%? (Thought it was 50%) dmg bonus uptime isn‘t high since it decays over time only giving 25% after 6 seconds. She is not a must pull but will probably be the strongest character with her premium supports
@tmth.nts16 ur right 75 percent for furina, typo and mavuika is about the same with support artifact. I'm furina main and mavuika I'm telling u is on par with her tho in dmg and support even not exactly the same. U don't think she's must pull let's just agree to disagree.
I'm pulling for Mavuika, I've seen her gameplay and I'm really into it, I also wanna try and get Citlali since she's oke of the best supports for Mavuika, I also have Xilonen. Btw can someone tell me if I could replace Citlali (in case I don't get her) with Shenhe or any other cryo unit please
Layla
You dont need them both 😐, also if you get mavuika with no natlan characters her value is still higher than citlali dont kid yourself
She is not only NOT better, she is worse than most characters in the game, and the only utility for citlali is helping mavuika reach max power. Mavuika is the best character in the game, after Mavuika there are many other including Zhongli better than Citlali. Saying Mavuika is not better than citlali is absolutely stupid.
ultimate mavuika defender
So she have decent cryo off field capability, have a shield, can shred enemy pyro and cryo resistance and can use hero scroll. Yet Is worst than mavuika which apply pyro once every 2 second off field her buffing capabilities required another natlan character to utilise and she is just another pyro dps which we already have like ton of, that can be powercreep by upcoming Snezhnaya character.
I can't comprehend with your logic.
I usually try and pull for character then weapon but from what Im hearing I gotta try and pull both characters then hard struggle on weapon
I wish citlali’s off field cryo application was faster
Wdym
It's fast, fastest there is
@ maybe im too used to yelan and xingqui application speed. Hers seem slow. Its not fast as theirs which is disappointing for me personally. Maybe ill have to test her to see if im satisfied with it
@@anosvildigoad The fastest cryo is Ayaka's burst. It hits 20 times in 5 secs. Nothing comes close.
@@blazingdragonwolf6771 forgot about her but citlali is still pretty fast
No way I did once skip nahida and I'm never doing it again
I love Citlali and she's one of the best supports imo but nah this ain't it.
Mavuika is a new step in meta role of Genshin. L take
i'd just get citlali and pair her with diluc, kokomi and idk who in the last slot...
Is Citlali also great with Hu Tao melt?
Maybe
It think she literally perfect for hu tao melt. She have a shield to protect her, pyro shred enemy resistance, off field subdps capability and she can use hero scroll to farther buff hu tao damage.
@@Lucario-ct9ln jeah but hu tao is best played in double hydro for more hp so o don't know
Hu Tao's Pyro application is too fast so I don't think Citlali will work with her, unless there's some tech, we need to wait till release to try it out.
I ve just started this game AR 25 will i able to pull both mavuika and citlali currently i have 6k primo
Grind harder , 14400+ primos for a 5 star is recommended. Don't do single pulls , always do pulls on 10x
If you're extremely lucky, sure 🤷♂️
I mean if I'm being honest if you are on 50 50 then you'll need like 28800 primogems just to be safe and get one character if you're super unlucky. But if lucks on your side then 90 pulls should suffice (about 14400 primogems)
@@jackr.ripper601 the thing is that I have not even done a single pull yet on every banner
@@RashaDebbarma-xx4gc Just focus on mavuika c0, then save for future versions 😉.
Im pulling both!
Too bad I want to match chasca and ororon with citilali but she doesn’t match with them
I hope Mavuika as sub-dps to perform well with Raiden.
Why are you still using Raiden Onfield DPS when you already have Mavuika? her C0 as a DPS can beat Raiden C3 even with the best team (C6 benet, C6 sara, C6 chev) just put your Raiden in the bench, she already expired.
Raiden who?
And outdated character?
@@seth-eh4fp I'll send Raiden to the bench once Hoyo releases a DPS with a gameplay I like.
People who are pulling both😈
They are both disappointing an underwhelming. Makes me question whether I even want to play nowadays. It's ridiculous when 3 year old units consistently outperform the newest ones in convenience, team compatibility and everything except damage output. Zhongli's shield and resistance shred are both better by a lot. Xiangling's application and off field damage beats the archon too unless you count the archon's burst with a Natlan team to refill fighting spirit as off field damage. And Citali scales on a stat that Cryo characters don't even want.
They are doing a good job at keeping old units relevant. Imagine you summoned a C6 Arlecchino and then a C2 Mavuika comes around and does more damage while having better mobility. This would be the case if this was Honkai Star Rail. But I agree so far Natlan was a skip for me as I've only summoned for Zhongli and Mualani on my 2nd acc.
she’s not better for me. but queen shit
I'm getting both
Citlali is a skip.
Same
Fr she should have been a 4 star her animations are basic except for her Burst
False
@@yinndragon7988 True. I mean for most pyro DPS, she doesn't apply enough cryo too.
Both.
Still gettong mavuika idx
Mid lali
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