Zwift Run 101 - How to Get Up and Running on Zwift
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Here's the quick-fire overview of what you need to get into Zwift Run. The hardware, software, configuration, and a few common queries answered. It's still early days for running on Zwift, but I suspect it'll slowly grow in numbers as people dust off their treadmills.
Links:
Stryd Footpod (Also running power meter. US$199): goo.gl/TkXeGq
MilestonePod (Amazon US. ~US65): amzn.to/2rLPnIj
Polar Stride (Amazon US. ~US65): amzn.to/2nkHPGW
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Good to see Shane. Head over to the Zwift Runners Facebook group if want to know about running on Zwift. We are starting to do more group runs now. facebook.com/gozwift/videos/811267169058760/ is the stream of tonight's (Monday) progressive run. We are doing a marathon pace themed workout on Wednesday www.zwift.com/events/view/40135 with different paces for different pace groups. Please join us if you can.
I understand Zwift not controlling the speed of the treadmill, however it would be cool if it could control the incline. Would make running up hills more immersive.
I’ve been on Zwift cycling for a couple of years and have just started running using the milestone foot pod. I’ve never been a runner so it’s a steep development curve but really enjoying it and even during my short runs I’m getting plenty of support and ride ons from fellow Zwifters. Looking forward to more paced group runs, once I can actually keep a pace. Run on!
shane as always -> perfect review!
Cheers mate. Just a quick overview on this for now to get everyone up to speed. I'll dive into the technical side of things in later videos. It's all very similar tech to bikes... and there's a lot of crossover.
Good One Shane! Milestone Ordered.. See you on course sometime!
Great vlogs, I watch them with my kid. Next time you are in NY come and ride in Central Park with us
If you dont have money for a smart treadmill or running pod you can simply try some apps available on the store like Treadmill Connect that connects with Zwift
You run just like the zwift guy does!
The Wahoo Tickr X will work just OK without a foot pod if you want to try it, since it reads velocity & cadence (kinda...) once I bought the polar foot pod the Zwift experience was MUCH better! Calibration is a must, but after doing so the accuracy of the speed (treadmill & Zwift) were real close, not perfect but real good.
Yep, the trick to put the TickrX/Run into 'run mode' is here: ua-cam.com/video/gTkqWY38idg/v-deo.html
Will you be doing a video on whether if someone has a TickrX (and set it up for run mode) you would still recommend a footpod? Wondering whether to get a footpod or upgrade to a Tickr X for Zwift running.
It seems the Stryd is the best pod to use at the moment in regard to accuracy and pace changes. I've already done a video on the TickrX hack/tip. Unless Zwift or Wahoo update that process I won't revisit it any time soon.
Nice vlog legend, RUN ON
I have a challenge for you. Can you compare the difference between using a high dollar setup and a low rent setup (pretty much like my department store schwinn on a base wheel on smart trainer)
Running or riding?
@@gplama riding of course. Sorry, I realize I asked on the wrong type of video, but it's been a question of mine. I run a schwinn mountain bike on a smart trainer which means my gearing on the bike is different than that of a road bike. I am probably also one of the weakest riders as well but I was wondering how much the gearing difference may be slowing me down.
Which foot pod will allow treadmill runners to upload to Strava. I've no interest in Zwift membership.
What about incline/hills in the Zwift world -how does that work?
Zwift on a budget - Running on the spot 👍
"Zwift - 100 miles and runnin" was also a candidate... being in LA and all.
Straight Outta Watopia
What are the running achievements in Zwift?
Perhaps a naff question but how is zwift running different/better than things like the run keeper app ? I like how you can see cyclists while you run
RunKeeper is a data tracker. Zwift Run, same as bikes, it's 3D/social/etc.
Thanks for posting your video. I'm just learning about Zwift and tested it out on the bike this week. Now I'm trying to figure out how to use the Zwift Run program. M my only treadmill is at the gym and I have an Android phone. This means I can't use the running side of Zwift, correct? At home on the trainer, I have been able to use my computer.
Bird Strike! 😂😂😂😂
Great video!
In theory couldn't you take your footpod and phone outside?
Sure, albeit pointless. You may as well just run outside. The reasoning for things like Zwift is to make these activities accessible for people in poor environments or whether climates etc, to assist with training.
It allows racing without actually racing, but other than that. It's pointless.
Yep! Also good for levelling up in Zwift Run.... but I won't advise this method of unlocking things. :)
Running ERG mode, lethal
I guess Zwift bases speed on flat terrain ( 0 elevation change, ignoring the virtual world)? I looked at the Stryd with power and I read Zwift does not use power for running. Looks like it just the novelty of watching a character move as your running on a treadmill. Ideally it would use power to generate an accurate speed based on terrain. If it did use the power from a foot pod then you would effectively have gears for your run by varying the incline of the treadmill. For now, I am not seeing a use for it but sure it will get better.
Running with power isn’t quite there yet. The numbers reported vary greatly across different ‘power meters’. Pace is the best metric to use at the moment with the technology. I’m sure this will change as the tech matures.
Just starting to walk and build up to runs. Got the milestone pod only to find out you have to run faster than 100spm, is there a foot pod that doesnt have the spm limit?
I'm not sure mate. Great question though. I'll look into this as a metric for rating/reviewing pods.
Shane, thanks for the great content. I see that you now have multiple foot pods for Zwift running. Referring back to your video about using the Tickr X for running on Zwift do you believe that it offers a very decent alternative compared to those foot pods. Since I only run when I'm away from my bike (I.e. Travelling) and that I was considering changing my Mio Fuse, would you recommend the Tickr X as a good choice for Zwift running/biking etc.? Thanks a million.
My use case is the same as yours, but after failing (possibly by being stupid) to get the Tickr X to connect- I used my Tickr HR and I just bought the Milestone Pod instead - cheap, accurate and convenient enough for travelling. Hope this helps.
Yep, the Tickr X (and Run) will work once it's switched to 'Run mode' which can be a little tricky. Here's how that's done. ua-cam.com/video/gTkqWY38idg/v-deo.html
does Apple Watch give any added features with zwift run?
Heart rate... if the pairing works. I can't get it working myself.
Wow! This is new for me.
Hi Shane , where can I buy the foot pod in Aus? Which is best for treadmill ?
I want to do some zwift running. What if have an HRM that’a ANT+ and bluetooth foot pod. How can i pair these up with Zwift?
You'll need to run Zwift on a device that supports both ANT+ and Bluetooth. I'd start by getting Zwift working with the footpod first and going from there.
Hi Shane have Zwift closed the hack which allowed you to use the Tickr X for your running metrics on Zwift, Have used it before but it does not seem to work anymore
Good question! Mine didn't work the other day either..... more investigationing needed. I'm on the case.
Can you use a wahoo tickr x to measure all the metrics (including cadence and speed)?
Any rumors whether there are any treadmills coming out that will increase and decrease gradient with Zwift? I would like to start zwift running, but if something is coming out, I'll hold off buying a treadmill for a while.
I haven’t heard anything about new treadmill hardware. Zwift Run really isn’t pushing the indoor running scene as it they’ve done with cycling.
@Shane Miller. Hi Shane,tks for your super video....but...just a question: it's impossible use zwift run without foot pod?
I have a Garmin Fenix3...an ipad (a mac that i use to train on bike, but in the gym I can't use the Mac)
tks
You'll need some kind of pace device. Either a pod, a connected treadmill, or something like the RunTracker. See the Zwift website for their take on things needed for Zwift Run.
Shane......love the videos......but I would love for you to make a video for me as I’m stuck.......I have a neo, an edge 1030 and a forerunner 735.....could you show how to have multiple devices running (indoor trainer, bike computer, wrist watch) whilst using zwift so that each ride is stored on every device yet they don’t all sync and have conflicting entries on strava......hope that makes sense.......
There's no easy answer for that. If you're creating three independent data sources (1030, FR735, Zwift) then Strava sees them as three different events. The best option is to upload from only one.... likely Zwift for Zwift rides. If you want the data shown during the rides on all the devices then do what you're doing now then discard the activities on the 1030 and FR735 before they sync. Or disable automatic sync to Strava from those devices.
Shane Miller thanks buddy......keep up the good work 👏
can you make a review about the Xplova X5 EVO computer/cam?
I have to get a hold of things... that unit hasn't really bubbled up on any list. Ray has covered it here: www.dcrainmaker.com/2017/04/xplova-x5-acer-computer-review.html
3:30 lol - great example. So can I not get this onto an Android phone or tablet still in MAY 2020? I want to join you guys, but not to buy an apple device.
Zwift Android has been out for a while. Ping Zwift Support if you're having issues loading/locating it.
Any idea how well this would work with an elliptical running machine?
Depends on the foot pod I guess... and what kind of cadence/speed it'll relay to Zwift.
What if someone just made a little ANT+ roller device that stuck to the treadmill and the belt spun the roller. There would be no calibration of stride or anything like that. The roller speed is the runner speed. Am I oversimplifying it? There now I can retire and live the Lama Life!
You've described the Wahoo GymConnect.
Nevermind... Back to the grind.
Would zwift running still work if you just run on the spot with a foot pod
Maybe. But why would you do that? 🤔😂
Is there a way to load up a Training peaks workout schedule?
I haven't dived too deeply into the Run workout mode. I suspect it'll be similar to the run scheduling - if not, it should be! :)
If I have a Garmin HRM Run is the same of a pod or I need one
It's not the same as a footpod. It does metrics, not footpod stuff like pace.
I heard some foot pods have difficulty connecting to the Android version of Zwift. Is that true? Got myself a treadmill now so was hoping to run it through my Pixel XL.
It’s still beta on the Android platform, so it’s likely.
Will Zwift ever control the incline though, like with Wahoo's connection thing? That'd be cool and significantly less dangerous than having it control speed
I think they are working on making you adjust your own incline for hill repeats and such.
One big problem at the moment is that there are few treadmills that could be controlled.
Yeah, thus why I asked about Wahoo's control thing they released a few years back. I've heard compatibility on that is quite mixed though, unfortunately...
Yeah you need a treadmill with a working CSAFE port and that largely restricts it to commercial grade ones you typically find in gyms. The ones at my gym have such a port but it did not work when tried to connect one of these "thingies" - Wahoo GymConnect.
I don't understand why you can't say the price of zwift. I heard that they raised their price recently 87%
Why I can't say the price of Zwift? Because it is different based on where you are (currency, exchange rates). It may change in the future making the information provided wrong. And if people want to sub they best head over to Zwift and go straight to the source rather than regurgitating bold headlines like "87% price rise". % is not representative of value. And value is very very very subjective. That's the long winded reason I keep away from "saying the price of Zwift". Hope this helps. :)
Instead of using a footpod, can I just use my Fenix watch? Or my Schoche HRM, since they each can broadcast running cadence?
Maybe... I'd ping Zwift support on this one. I don't know on either (or own either)
Did you find an answer for this?
Does Zwift run support TrainingPeaks structured workouts
That’s one thing I haven’t used. Zwift Support should have an answer here.
Can you now use Android devices and also ANT+ HRMs with Zwift Run?
Yes, but their Android version is still in beta.
@@gplama I just tried it and it doesn't have graphics, on my Android device. But as long as it tracks stuff that's all I care about right now. I'll also provide them feedback 😁
do you know if the Under Armour HOVR Sonic 2 shoes would work with ZWIFT ?
They should... Zwift Run was launched with a partnership with Under Armour and similar shoes.
Shane Miller - GPLama thanks it works. went for my first 5k run today!
I do have a stryd, paired with my Garmin 235, plus my HR strap.
I do workout in a treadmill quite a lot.
Does this have an APP on an Android Phone?
Zwift on Android is currently in beta. If it’s unavailable then check out RunSocial.
Many thanx for the prompt answer. I found the android APP and installed it. Seems fine, and i will test it in practice tonight.
Does it connect to my HR strap? Its an garmin Ant1 strap. propably not.
And a last question. How does this merge with my normal garmin activity recorder?
I mean, does it prevent my Stryd from communicating to my garmin as well?
All good questions that I have no answers for sorry. RunSocial support might be the best port of call here.
Ok i did a practice run.
Stryd has no problem transmitting at the same time to 2 devices, aka my Garmin watch and the android device.
The ant1, Garmin Heart Rate doesnt connect to the android device.
How can I use it or downloaded for my run techno gym
I have a video up on he TechnoGym MyRun. Search UA-cam for ‘Gplama MyRun’
Do any of the treadmills simulate the gradients in Zwift?
Not at this point, no.
most modern treadmills change grades at the push of one button. just pay attention to the gradient on screen and adjust on the treadmill easily.
Does the wahoo stride work
Maybe... it's long gone as a product. Also ANT+ only.
Does anyone know of a footpod that has bluetooth and ANT+ connectivity? All the ones i can find have with bluetooth or ANT+ and not both?
I too would like to know this!
Stryd
Thanks for the reply! Do you know if the Stryd is the only one or are there cheaper versions?
Is there a recommended incline to set the treadmill at?
I normally match mine to the zwift landscape, adds a bit of cross country feel to it. So 0.5% for the flats then climb up to level 2, 3, 4, 5 etc with sharp grades. All just for fun, but you don't need to.
I read somewhere (sorry for vagueness) that it should be set to 1% (generally) for treadmills? I like the idea of adjusting to match Zwift though.
The 1% incline will get you fit really quick as it's essentially cycling at a 1/1.5% incline at all times.
However not really required, from the km's I'll jog/run a week is usually at 0.5% to be honest, unless I'm simming an outdoor route on the visuals on their monitors.
The 1% thing is largely a myth. On your bike would you choose to go uphill slower or faster on the flat throughout? Same applies to running - if you prefer flat do that and if not working hard enough speed up.
Podium finish
Has anyone tried Zwift run on an Octane Zero Runner rather than a treadmill?
Do the footopods work properly with zero impact?
They may work... but it's more an elliptical than a running machine.... regardless of the marketing spin they put on that. To train for an activity you need to *do* the activity, and running is a lot about the impact. That's the process I'm adapting to at the moment.
I realise it's all about impact, but I regularly run 3-4x 10 mile trail runs a week, with Zero runner 10km's the days between & when it's really bad weather as relief. Do the footpods need the impact to record a footstrike or is it the motion
That'd be one for the manufacturers. I'd ping Stryd. They seem to have the most advanced motion/pod on the market at the moment.
Thanks for the video! Do you know / think that this would work on a step machine / climber ? I don't really care about correct metrics as the machine will give you that, just would like to record basic activity time and heart rate into Zwift, and linked apps.... (yes ok call it a "run", and I know it's not accurate). Thanks again !
I have no idea if this will work sorry. One for Zwift Support.
I usually calibrate my milestone a few mph faster because it seems to read low.
What's your calibration process? Are you using the in-game calibration?
Speaking from memory I believe I set the treadmill at 5.8 and set the calibration on the iphone 6 zwift app for 6.0 and it seems to be right on. I suppose that could vary from treadmill to treadmill as those aren't always calibrated correctly as well. As long as its semi-close I don't seem to mind. There's also a bit of a speed lag on zwift when I go from a light jog to a full gas interval run.
Can you use a mini trampoline?
Use a butter knife if you like... it's still not a treadmill.
Shane Miller replied to me! 😀
I reply to most of these comments. It's all good.
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Sorry mate, this is pathetic. I understand Zwift for cycling during the off season... but for running!?!. I live in Canada where we have real winters, I still run outside all year round, just dress appropriately (layers).
No need to apologise to me. If you’re not into people having an option to be more active then that’s all you. If you’re all about the hardcore then again, that’s you.
I dont think this is pathetic at all. I broke my wrist slipping on ice whilst running 2 weeks ago and had surgery to put a plate in. My only option (due to the stage in the healing and weather (also -5 to -15 deg C)) at the moment for running is on a treadmill which for >15km is boring. For me this depends on what you enjoy about running, like you I also prefer to run outside in all weather types, but safely.
I would think so too....then I broke my leg and I loved getting back to running on a treadmill instead on trails that I could not do just yet. :)
Try running all year round in Manila, Philippines where it can hit 110f and the streets are crammed full of smoke billowing Jeepneys.
If I used this at the gym, there's no option for a larger screen than my cell phone and I'd be looking down most of the time. Can't really afford to buy a treadmill to put in front of the tv.