Finally got my hands on one of these for a demo. The high gain is actually not bad at all. But it does take some time to dial in. It can get pretty ridiculous really quick. It absolutely nails Dimebag at moderate settings. At lower settings it is more akin to how the mooer rage machine sounds at low levels. It also has loads of low end, which I'm sure isn't apparent in a video demo. The hi gain section sounds best with some high end cut and the mids pushed on the eq. Very easy to get a rectifier sound. Or let it rip for Randallesque bite. Unlike a metal zone, as most people are comparing it, this would easily cut through a mix. It's a very in your face distortion, like a metal muff. My guess is that they based it on either their Blade pedal or the afforementioned Rage Machine pedal. I'm inclined to say it's the latter (go check rage machine demos). Personally, I would never run it beyond 10 o'clock on the gain. And even then, it needs to be ran through a closed back cab to tame the highs. The treble is real on the Hi Gain section. Everything else on it is fantastic. The comp is probably the high point. It is great for an always on compressor. If you have used the mooer yellow comp, you already know. It's a diamond clone. The comp combined with high gain kinda feels like a rat, with all that sustain. The modulation is very usable and the OD is basically their green mile pedal which is an excellent TS clone. Comp and Od together just sings. Very addictive. I quite like the overdrive section, it's a bit hotter than a typical TS9 and not overly mid pushed. Sounds a lot like an OCD actually but with less maximum gain. I think I'll keep this pedal. Would be perfect for gigs, even if I would only use the hi gain for solos (doubtful even then). I'm gonna open it up and see if I can modify the Hi Gain section to lower the output or tame the high frequency and then it would be a perfect gig pedal. Especially with the routing options and switchable fx loop (which can also be configured in your presets) 9/10. Would give a ten if they didn't go overboard with the high gain, but I admit it does sound pretty good as is with humbuckers and a large cabinet. Or at low gain to push a dirty Marshall style amp to give it some gnarly compression. Probably wouldn't sound good through a fender, especially with the inherent mid cut. If they used their actual Rat clone (the black Secret) in that section, it would sell like hotcakes. It's almost perfect. The flange, btw is exactly like the eleclady, which nails The Wall tones. It's almost Gilmour in a box. Hopefully the hi gain section can be modded so it can be just that. InstaGilmour with a fuzz in front and a good chorus/Leslie in the fx loop. My hope is that this section is completely isolated so I can just install the Black Secret pedal there (or the Muff clone) and completely do away with whatever is in there. Don't get me wrong, it's not terrible. And it definitely djents with the right can, but I'm not a big metal guy. And I always prefer amp distortion anyway. The cab Sim is ok. Not great. But not many companies do a good Sim anyway. Not at this price especially. My only other gripe is that the tremolo is kinda meh. If you like the mooer trelicopter, then you'll like this. It's not bad but it's not great. Tho I know a lot if people like the mooer trem a lot. It used to be one of their best selling pedals from what I've read. Haven't tried running the entire pedal through the amp fx loop yet, but I've found that the red truck sounds best like that. Bypassing amp preamps completely.
Also should mention that the black truck is dead quiet, except for when high gain is engaged (the noise gate helps there obviously). Some of the first red trucks were noisy, but they have since fixed those and this one is just as quiet. Huge plus. I'm going to post a video soon of the black truck through a Marshall fx loop (bypassing preamps completely). The red truck sounds best that way I'm, but haven't tried this one yet in that fashion.
Kappa Chino yeah definitely. I hadn't seen his video before I posted this. Ola knows how to dial in his tones very well when it comes to video demos. As for Bergs, sometimes I think he allows too much treble through to his interface. I'm not exactly sure how he's sending his signal. Almost sounds like he's going direct on here. But Ola used his big cab and mic'd it which sounds killer and always works best for recording high gain IMO. That said, Olas video also sounded great when he went to the cab Sim. I wonder if he has a nice preamp going on with his interface. His videos always sound incredible. I love Bergs demos, but he and a ton of other guys always have too much treble. I'm sure it sounds great in the room tho
Brett, I love your descriptive words like, "squeezy" and "chewy". (Only fellow electric guitarists can understand.) Thanks for the review. I now have the Red Truck and the Black Truck. I'm planning to use the chorus and delay sections from the Red Truck and the distortion and OD sections from the Black Truck via 4-cable method. Best of both worlds! (I hope it works!)
Really loved this demo, thanks Brett! I was almost going to pick this up but, basically have a Boss pedalboard setup like it already! Picked up a Power Stack because of your demo! Love it
I totally agree!! I saw this unit demonstrated by Ola and I just had to be “nosy”: find Mr. Brett Kingman, he brings life to all devices he demonstrates. If it isn’t Brett, more than likely I pass and wait until he produces a video!! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Man I must say, I'm really diggin' that high-gain module. Seen lots of people say it's crap, but in front of (or behind for that matter) a decent amp, mixing with amp's color and tone of the right speakers, that's a slamming heavy tone. Def gotta grab one of these and put the high-gain DI signal into my DAW with some cab sims. For the price, this rig is hard to beat! Probably more suitable for recording and home dabbling rather than live, as it does have that quick cut-out when you add on effects or switch presets, so that's not too cool.
after watching a few of these demo's it always sells better with a great guitarist, but it doesn't mean i will sound great.. but at least I know I could try. beautiful job here on the Demo.
I just bought one and it does NOT come with its own Power Supply. I think the UA-cam demo guys should try to include that info in their demo videos. This pedal takes a 9V DC 1A (pos outside ring, neg inside ring). You will need to purchase this separately unless you already own one!
Beats the NUX Cerberus in terms of tone - and global tap. With the NUX, if you are in preset mode you lose tap. The NUX does have MIDI and decent IR if you need to control other devices and/or DI.
Mooer have been coming out with some really good quality and reasonably priced multi effect pedals for the last 1-2 years with the Black & Red Trucks, the GE 200, and the Ocean Machine which I own. When I first played around with my O.M. I remembered just a couple of years before I had bought (and sold) Mooers pretty feeble Shimverb for around £70, and since those days they have come on leaps and bounds. Regarding the Truck units, the Black is ok but I'm not a big fan of high gain sounds. For my tastes I do prefer the Red, I really liked the juicy overdrive/distortion on it. They both have their pro's & cons, the Black has the pluses of having the compressor & EQ.....but that juicy overdrive on the Red.....So in that respect, it's maybe a little too expensive to have both of the Trucks side by side so the GE 200 might be a better buy, I haven't really had a good enough listen to it though....
Great demo, Brett... but I've come to expect that. I think this unit, much like the Red Truck, is really best going into an amp. The direct sounds are... so-so. For direct, Mooer have the GE200 and the upcoming GE300. Also, I find it odd that the very thing that separates this from the Red Truck is the high gain section... which is the only section I don't like. The OD section on this unit, on the other hand, sounds great! To each their own, naturally.
I'd agree with that. If you only have one modulation-style effect it really should be chorus, so, to have three... and none of them is chorus, seems strange.
The flange can be set as a chorus on this. It's basically the eleclady, which is the more chorusey flanger as opposed to the evh jet sound flange. You just turn the rate down and adjust the modulation to taste.
I like the sound of it. I wonder how this will sound in 4 cable method. I hated the sound of my BOSS GT-100 untill i tried the 4 cable method. It sudenly started to sound the way I want, and it is hooked up to a small bedroom practice amp. I still like this unit more then the BOSS GT-100. This one have knobs i can turn to adjust the sound, on my BOSS unit i have to mess with the menus to change anything. Now I have a challenge. This mooer black truck or BOSS ME-80? Similar price, both easy and fast to use units. I just need to find a way to compare the sound.
Hey there just seeing this now and had a question about running through tube amp. Does the Onboard 5 band EQ work with amp distortion and tone stack or is it only with the Hi gain on the black truck?? Thanks!
I would love to to hear the high gain with less mids,bass,and more highs .The high gain sounds like a peavey 3120 high gain which I don't care for.I want to know if you can get a good 80s solo sound out of high gain section . I'm an old rocker.mooer could put a switch on the high gain section to change the internal EQ from modern to classic like egnater has done in the past
Well i stand corrected they are both almost the exact same price ( REALLY makes it easy lol) ...... Hell I'm gonna have to get BOTH lol and i JUST realized I got the ge100 NOT the 150 anyhow lol .... It'll be sold promptly for whatever I can get back on it
Great review as always mate. Gotta say this unit is sadly crippled. What’s the point of having presets if you can’t save the effects parameters to a preset. I wouldn’t care if it had midi, but that feature’s missing too... That sucks... it’s a no for me.
Thanks again Brett for a great review, i definitely prefer this one over the red truck, and also hope that you get round to reviewing the Valeton Dapper Dark which has a similar concept to the black truck :)
Better gain and mods than the NUX Cerberus. Just add some cab em/R loader unit, maybe another delay and a fave OD/booster upfront, and it's yr grab 'n go rig. I'd want a Univibe in front. The drives on the Cerberus are crap and the phaser & 'vibe are post-gain! Gotta run them pre-gain. And it didn't have a comp. Good IR tho. But IR's are easy to come by. Red/Black Truck FTW!
Why they didn’t put a chorus makes no sense a phaser with a chorus would have made a flanger or just had a chorus and flanger but only thing missing is chorus would have topped it off just saying but awesome setup
Thanks for your reviews. I have two questions: [1] Since you reviewed both this and the Red Truck (ua-cam.com/video/bh78ry5VmWA/v-deo.html), it there any deal-braking difference between the two, both tone and feature wise? [2] Can the delay and reverb on the Red and Black Trucks be operated in serial (D-->R and R-->D) and in parallel in the way it is possible on the Nux Atlantic Delay & Reverb (ua-cam.com/video/N3XfDVcQZqg/v-deo.html)? Thanks.
because of the 4 cables system he used, using the amps sound combined with this pedal, using an super hi end amp with this pedal, so Ola was kind of cheating but he taught everyone how to get a good tone out of it
+Leff - What is it about UA-cam demo videos that brings distortion snobs out of the woodwork like as many cockroaches? Trust me - what you think sounds great sounds like shite to OTHER distortion snobs...
AT THE GATES - SLAUGHTER OF THE SOUL, is recorded with a MetalZone. And that album is the best album i owned as a kid. But yeah maybe the sound is a little outdated OR it could come back 🙂
Finally got my hands on one of these for a demo. The high gain is actually not bad at all. But it does take some time to dial in. It can get pretty ridiculous really quick. It absolutely nails Dimebag at moderate settings. At lower settings it is more akin to how the mooer rage machine sounds at low levels. It also has loads of low end, which I'm sure isn't apparent in a video demo. The hi gain section sounds best with some high end cut and the mids pushed on the eq. Very easy to get a rectifier sound. Or let it rip for Randallesque bite. Unlike a metal zone, as most people are comparing it, this would easily cut through a mix. It's a very in your face distortion, like a metal muff. My guess is that they based it on either their Blade pedal or the afforementioned Rage Machine pedal. I'm inclined to say it's the latter (go check rage machine demos). Personally, I would never run it beyond 10 o'clock on the gain. And even then, it needs to be ran through a closed back cab to tame the highs. The treble is real on the Hi Gain section. Everything else on it is fantastic. The comp is probably the high point. It is great for an always on compressor. If you have used the mooer yellow comp, you already know. It's a diamond clone. The comp combined with high gain kinda feels like a rat, with all that sustain.
The modulation is very usable and the OD is basically their green mile pedal which is an excellent TS clone. Comp and Od together just sings. Very addictive. I quite like the overdrive section, it's a bit hotter than a typical TS9 and not overly mid pushed. Sounds a lot like an OCD actually but with less maximum gain.
I think I'll keep this pedal. Would be perfect for gigs, even if I would only use the hi gain for solos (doubtful even then). I'm gonna open it up and see if I can modify the Hi Gain section to lower the output or tame the high frequency and then it would be a perfect gig pedal. Especially with the routing options and switchable fx loop (which can also be configured in your presets) 9/10.
Would give a ten if they didn't go overboard with the high gain, but I admit it does sound pretty good as is with humbuckers and a large cabinet. Or at low gain to push a dirty Marshall style amp to give it some gnarly compression. Probably wouldn't sound good through a fender, especially with the inherent mid cut. If they used their actual Rat clone (the black Secret) in that section, it would sell like hotcakes. It's almost perfect. The flange, btw is exactly like the eleclady, which nails The Wall tones. It's almost Gilmour in a box.
Hopefully the hi gain section can be modded so it can be just that. InstaGilmour with a fuzz in front and a good chorus/Leslie in the fx loop. My hope is that this section is completely isolated so I can just install the Black Secret pedal there (or the Muff clone) and completely do away with whatever is in there. Don't get me wrong, it's not terrible. And it definitely djents with the right can, but I'm not a big metal guy. And I always prefer amp distortion anyway.
The cab Sim is ok. Not great. But not many companies do a good Sim anyway. Not at this price especially. My only other gripe is that the tremolo is kinda meh. If you like the mooer trelicopter, then you'll like this. It's not bad but it's not great. Tho I know a lot if people like the mooer trem a lot. It used to be one of their best selling pedals from what I've read.
Haven't tried running the entire pedal through the amp fx loop yet, but I've found that the red truck sounds best like that. Bypassing amp preamps completely.
Also should mention that the black truck is dead quiet, except for when high gain is engaged (the noise gate helps there obviously). Some of the first red trucks were noisy, but they have since fixed those and this one is just as quiet. Huge plus. I'm going to post a video soon of the black truck through a Marshall fx loop (bypassing preamps completely). The red truck sounds best that way I'm, but haven't tried this one yet in that fashion.
In Ola Englund's demo, the hi gain sounded great as soon as Ola turned it on
Kappa Chino yeah definitely. I hadn't seen his video before I posted this. Ola knows how to dial in his tones very well when it comes to video demos. As for Bergs, sometimes I think he allows too much treble through to his interface. I'm not exactly sure how he's sending his signal. Almost sounds like he's going direct on here. But Ola used his big cab and mic'd it which sounds killer and always works best for recording high gain IMO. That said, Olas video also sounded great when he went to the cab Sim. I wonder if he has a nice preamp going on with his interface. His videos always sound incredible. I love Bergs demos, but he and a ton of other guys always have too much treble. I'm sure it sounds great in the room tho
Hi sir, would you recommend it for a bedroom guitarist like me. For the price is it worth it?
The gain sounds to metal. Just want to boost the overdrive for solos.. can you clean it up.. whaaat happened when you opened it up???
Wow that sounds darn good to me for the dosh. very good di ed sound too with emulation
High gain sounds great but this sounds best with just the OD and compressor. I'm signed up for the early bird!! Excellent review btw!!
I'm a mooer fan always have been because all of their equipment has been affordable and durable and they put out some pretty good stuff every time!!!
Brett, I love your descriptive words like, "squeezy" and "chewy". (Only fellow electric guitarists can understand.) Thanks for the review. I now have the Red Truck and the Black Truck. I'm planning to use the chorus and delay sections from the Red Truck and the distortion and OD sections from the Black Truck via 4-cable method. Best of both worlds! (I hope it works!)
best demo ever so far now.really awesome
Really loved this demo, thanks Brett! I was almost going to pick this up but, basically have a Boss pedalboard setup like it already!
Picked up a Power Stack because of your demo! Love it
Yeah, first :-). Thanks for your videos. It's great to hear this equipment played by a great guitarist.
You're very kind, HOAG. Thanks! Twang on. :)
I totally agree!! I saw this unit demonstrated by Ola and I just had to be “nosy”: find Mr. Brett Kingman, he brings life to all devices he demonstrates. If it isn’t Brett, more than likely I pass and wait until he produces a video!! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Man I must say, I'm really diggin' that high-gain module. Seen lots of people say it's crap, but in front of (or behind for that matter) a decent amp, mixing with amp's color and tone of the right speakers, that's a slamming heavy tone. Def gotta grab one of these and put the high-gain DI signal into my DAW with some cab sims. For the price, this rig is hard to beat! Probably more suitable for recording and home dabbling rather than live, as it does have that quick cut-out when you add on effects or switch presets, so that's not too cool.
after watching a few of these demo's it always sells better with a great guitarist, but it doesn't mean i will sound great.. but at least I know I could try. beautiful job here on the Demo.
Really great review. Thanks for making it.
best review on this thing i"ve seen. Convince me to buy it!
I just bought one and it does NOT come with its own Power Supply. I think the UA-cam demo guys should try to include that info in their demo videos. This pedal takes a 9V DC 1A (pos outside ring, neg inside ring). You will need to purchase this separately unless you already own one!
Beats the NUX Cerberus in terms of tone - and global tap. With the NUX, if you are in preset mode you lose tap.
The NUX does have MIDI and decent IR if you need to control other devices and/or DI.
Brett always fantastic demo !!! Very intersting gear !!!
Mooer have been coming out with some really good quality and reasonably priced multi effect pedals for the last 1-2 years with the Black & Red Trucks, the GE 200, and the Ocean Machine which I own. When I first played around with my O.M. I remembered just a couple of years before I had bought (and sold) Mooers pretty feeble Shimverb for around £70, and since those days they have come on leaps and bounds.
Regarding the Truck units, the Black is ok but I'm not a big fan of high gain sounds. For my tastes I do prefer the Red, I really liked the juicy overdrive/distortion on it.
They both have their pro's & cons, the Black has the pluses of having the compressor & EQ.....but that juicy overdrive on the Red.....So in that respect, it's maybe a little too expensive to have both of the Trucks side by side so the GE 200 might be a better buy, I haven't really had a good enough listen to it though....
Good demo. But seems like a strange assortment of fx for metal. Comp? Not needed. Tremolo? Should be a chorus instead. No modulated delay? Fail.
Great demo, Brett... but I've come to expect that.
I think this unit, much like the Red Truck, is really best going into an amp. The direct sounds are... so-so. For direct, Mooer have the GE200 and the upcoming GE300. Also, I find it odd that the very thing that separates this from the Red Truck is the high gain section... which is the only section I don't like. The OD section on this unit, on the other hand, sounds great! To each their own, naturally.
It should have had a Chorus instead of the Tremolo to be honest.
I'd agree with that. If you only have one modulation-style effect it really should be chorus, so, to have three... and none of them is chorus, seems strange.
The flange can be set as a chorus on this. It's basically the eleclady, which is the more chorusey flanger as opposed to the evh jet sound flange. You just turn the rate down and adjust the modulation to taste.
Can this be connected directly to PA ??
I like the sound of it. I wonder how this will sound in 4 cable method. I hated the sound of my BOSS GT-100 untill i tried the 4 cable method. It sudenly started to sound the way I want, and it is hooked up to a small bedroom practice amp. I still like this unit more then the BOSS GT-100. This one have knobs i can turn to adjust the sound, on my BOSS unit i have to mess with the menus to change anything. Now I have a challenge. This mooer black truck or BOSS ME-80? Similar price, both easy and fast to use units. I just need to find a way to compare the sound.
Good review. Product sounds great!
just bought it, thanks!
Cool look
Great demo cheers 🤟🏼🎸
Great Demo bud.
is there much between this and the nux cerberus?
Excellent. this seems less dark than the Red Truck. What do you think, Burgs?
Hey there just seeing this now and had a question about running through tube amp. Does the Onboard 5 band EQ work with amp distortion and tone stack or is it only with
the Hi gain on the black truck?? Thanks!
Is this better, newer or older than the red truck?
I like
it a lot
Can you add another distortion pedal in the effects loop section? Example I want to use a separate pedal. Thanks
I would love to to hear the high gain with less mids,bass,and more highs .The high gain sounds like a peavey 3120 high gain which I don't care for.I want to know if you can get a good 80s solo sound out of high gain section . I'm an old rocker.mooer could put a switch on the high gain section to change the internal EQ from modern to classic like egnater has done in the past
which one do you choose? mooer black truck or nux cerberus? which one is the best?
Hi Brett.. is it possible to incorporate a Wah pedal .. how should it be connected?
Well i stand corrected they are both almost the exact same price ( REALLY makes it easy lol) ...... Hell I'm gonna have to get BOTH lol and i JUST realized I got the ge100 NOT the 150 anyhow lol .... It'll be sold promptly for whatever I can get back on it
planning to get this, is this still a good deal?
Great review as always mate. Gotta say this unit is sadly crippled. What’s the point of having presets if you can’t save the effects parameters to a preset. I wouldn’t care if it had midi, but that feature’s missing too... That sucks... it’s a no for me.
cool sound
Would this perform ok for bass?
Are you running thru the front of the amp.Or in the effects loop?
Thanks again Brett for a great review, i definitely prefer this one over the red truck, and also hope that you get round to reviewing the Valeton Dapper Dark which has a similar concept to the black truck :)
Better gain and mods than the NUX Cerberus. Just add some cab em/R loader unit, maybe another delay and a fave OD/booster upfront, and it's yr grab 'n go rig. I'd want a Univibe in front.
The drives on the Cerberus are crap and the phaser & 'vibe are post-gain! Gotta run them pre-gain. And it didn't have a comp.
Good IR tho. But IR's are easy to come by.
Red/Black Truck FTW!
Tnx for a good video man 🤗😁
is it have cab sim?
Why they didn’t put a chorus makes no sense a phaser with a chorus would have made a flanger or just had a chorus and flanger but only thing missing is chorus would have topped it off just saying but awesome setup
Question.....in preset mode....does it remember the settings of each individual effect, or does it only remember on/off effect?
only on/off unfortunately
Did UA-cam stop video controls?
Video controls? What do you mean?
Does this have stereo out jacks?
jamie snyder yes
Can you route the drive to the front of amp,and effects to effects loop of amp?
Yeah you can do 4 cable method.
Reverb and delay in one switch! Shit...
So the reverb doesn't stay on when you switch the delay off?
Thanks for your reviews. I have two questions: [1] Since you reviewed both this and the Red Truck (ua-cam.com/video/bh78ry5VmWA/v-deo.html), it there any deal-braking difference between the two, both tone and feature wise? [2] Can the delay and reverb on the Red and Black Trucks be operated in serial (D-->R and R-->D) and in parallel in the way it is possible on the Nux Atlantic Delay & Reverb (ua-cam.com/video/N3XfDVcQZqg/v-deo.html)? Thanks.
Why is it that Ola Englund is able to make this sound great but no one else is? I need to try it but that's impossible
because of the 4 cables system he used, using the amps sound combined with this pedal, using an super hi end amp with this pedal, so Ola was kind of cheating but he taught everyone how to get a good tone out of it
Because he plays it through a 5150 half stack lol
すごく良い音ですね～！ムーアって高いんでしょうね・・＾＾
These seem finicky but great job Brett.
Hi gain is useless but overdrive sounds good
HI-GAIN sounds like BOSS MetalZone... burf...
Check out ola's demo. He makes the distorion more listenable
+Leff - What is it about UA-cam demo videos that brings distortion snobs out of the woodwork like as many cockroaches? Trust me - what you think sounds great sounds like shite to OTHER distortion snobs...
AT THE GATES - SLAUGHTER OF THE SOUL, is recorded with a MetalZone. And that album is the best album i owned as a kid. But yeah maybe the sound is a little outdated OR it could come back 🙂
Better to get a dated ME70
I still use mine. Great mfx.
No chorus i guess
Too muddy its hi gain sectuon...i still choose red truck compare to this
High gain sucks, the rest are fine.
In that case - check out the Mooer RED Truck - it's less "metal" oriented.
It's not that I need/want one. For the record I like metal. But that sounds thin and harsh. Super fizzy.
You can adjust the eq.
Nahh!!! Just noise !!!!