This has been around. XYZ da Vinci was already making a full colour 3D printer using HP industrial inkjet cartridges nearly a decade ago. Unfortunately i have never seen it actually really look good, and i don't know if the photos published by the project are a good representation of what it achieves, it's either too white and pale or too blurry too much subsurface scattering. It works well with absorbent surfaces where the ink modifies how the surface itself interacts with light, and this is just not how inkjet 3D printing works. We might not find a solution for it.
Always has been. It was one of the first ideas. Getting it to work is the hard part. The really hard part. It's probably going to need filament support. As in filament specifically for taking color. That means you're also going to need multi filament support, so you can use the expensive stuff only on the visible edges.
Oh this is GENIUS, having static png layers really really makes this compelling, having the ability to use the human-readable PNGs to modify, e.g. the colors, or details, using an app like Lightroom or even Photoshop or Gimp that can batch process multiple files at once, you can apply color swaps or saturation changes en masse to use on prints without having to go back to the drawing board and work on the texture's UV mapped art - which for some can be very intimidating. This is freaking great.
Polyjet and other technologies that utilize 'inkjet' style printheads operate very similarly. Under the hood after everything is said and done it's all just bitmaps. Not sure about all the technologies but there are ways to access this and do your own simulations and output them to do true 'voxel' printing
The idea of having a huge spool of white (or clear, for those translucent prints), and a few big bottles of cheap, non-specific ink, and being able to flawlessly print out full color, high resolution prints would be absolutely brilliant. I hope they keep it up and wish them great luck.
BTW, I wanted to say thank you Michael Laws for all the great teaching videos you have posted over the years. I've watched many of your videos since 2019 and this helped me to become proficient in 3D printing. I've gone on from my first Ender 3 in 2019 to 14 different 3D printers all modded and running smooth, to a small print farm. I've had a lot of enjoyment doing 3D printing. Thank you again as your videos help so many folks here on UA-cam. 👍 God Bless
Technically third parties make continuous ink systems that work with printers that use the 67XL cartridge shown in the video, presumably all you'd have to do is convert an empty cartridge over using one of those kits and you'd have what you're asking for without having to redesign the system.
Hell yeah! I remember Make Anything & Blake3d's marker proof of concept and DaVinci's ink 3d printer and was wondering for a while if someone would pick up where they left off. The fact that this works with regular old off the shelf printer ink cartridges is awesome
THATS INSANE!! I saw a video on colored resin printing recently and these models look just as good! Wow!! I really really cannot wait to see this develop into something truly incredible!!!
Was about to say the same thing. Not sure what happened with it since it has been a long time since I’ve seen anything new on it but it is nice to see an open source version. Think I might get one for my ender 3 v1 after they refine it a bit more.
@@tanithis tbf nobody wants to buy a mediocre 3D printer just for the ability to to print mediocre color parts. This however is an addon/upgrade kit. You still have a great printer at the end of the day. Its flexible asf and you dont need to inconvenience yourself
This is so cool! Congratulations to Jacques and Bianca for achieving this and thank you for showcasing it. This definitely looks like something that could mature into being very user friendly. My pessimistic side thinks there’s a company out there now looking at how to make a full color 3D printer they sell very cheap with DRM on the cartridges.
Around 2012, the Z-Corp full color system was around $75k (USD) for the machine. The models had to be cleaned and resin infused; the process made cleaning resin prints seem like making toast! There was a vacuum infuser for very expensive resin ($3k per 5 gallons) that sold for around $30k. I was looking to run a small shop generating pre-surgical models from medical scan data, as well as architectural models (the primary intended use case); all-in, with the first round of supplies, there was easily $125k in start up cost.
Earlier this year I was chatting with a friend about 3D printing. I mentioned an idea I had but had no idea how to implement. He is an engineer and he thought the idea was interesting but he too had no idea where to even begin. The thought was to combine both inkjet printing technology with nanoparticle SLS printing. My thought was a powdered version of CA glue with the ink cartridges in the inkjet printer employing both a pigment and an chemical activator/catalyst. The printer would print it's layer spraying nano bubbles of activator which would then cause the powder to bond together. And just like with any inkjet printer you can have full control of the colour as it prints. No lasers, UV light, post washing/curing of resin, filament jams, or dangerously high temps. The thought was that this could literally be a desktop machine with a decent build volume but that would have a smaller, or similar, size footprint.
I've had this idea for a long time. The slicing part is where I was stuck. I'm just thrilled to see it come to life. This is the biggest inovation yet in home 3D printing. Let's just hope Stratsys doesn't buy it out and kill it. Congrats!
Just when I start to feel smart someone comes along and does something like this and makes me feel like a caveman beating rocks together 😂 this is such an awesome idea! Well done to the creator!
This reminds me of a video of 3d printing nerd where they showed an industrial FDM printer that can - as I understand it - mix dye into the molten plastic, making it possible to print many colors including perfect transparency. Consumer devices are still far off, but wow - this is already impressive progress. 5+ years ago we had printer kits made of brittle acrylic parts, now we have filament swapping, toolchangers and inkjet coloring.
Incredible. A ways to go for ease of use and color saturation, but WOW. This will change SO much for me, who doesn't really like painting or using filament for multicolor prints cause there's not enough colors to do it "right." With this I could, in theory, make the model, print it, then just get on with the post processing and weathering.
That will be perfect for idex printers. Just one head for white filament, other head for coloring (with some little "home" which will protect the head from drying).
This is so freaking cool. I absolutely love this community. So many amazing projects and advances allowing this industry to flourish. I just hope the same kind of creativity and growth can start being applied to the CNC mill industry. I really want to branch into that as well.
This is great, I'm probably experienced enough to try to join the testing and try it out myself. And this is a good enough price for the output in my opinion. However, I simply want to wait until the next stage of this before I try it. It's a genus idea and it's such a cool concept. Tell him great work and keep it up!
Well, since you're not dealing with an HP 2D printer's firmware to tell you you can't use a refilled Inkjet cartridge, there's nothing stopping you from buying the cartridge and refilling it yourself. You can basically look at it as a one-time purchase.
@@4crafters597 Yep, or refined even. Inkjet cartridges were not intended for this purpose and probably have chemicals in them to help the dye adhere to paper. I'm sure there's different chemicals they can put in so it bonds better with certain thermoplastics.
@@Poorgeniu5 I was wondering that too. The only reason I can think of it not working is that's meant for sublimation material which then transfers to another material. I don't know if there's anything in the sublimation material that helps with that transfer.
Nice!!! I remember the old inkjet kit... and this one added to an FDM printer is amazing. Order #1 placed! Shipping is very expensive... but I really want to support this project... so worth it.
That's amazing the one thing I'm thinking about is that is it possible for it to work with cheaper and refillable aftermarket Ink cartridges if it can then this is amazing
Or eventually a dedicated cartridge just for3d printing that is refillable instead of a hacked one. Heck maybe just a head with a hose with a tank that's somewhere on the frame.
@@Awrethien I think so too. This is just the easiest method for a homemade hack. Of course you can and have to scale it up further down the line. This is probably mostly a proof of concept to get everything working. Applying the Ink will be it's own Problem in the future. This will probably also affect the quality and layer adhesion so there will be a lot of testing needed still.
This is getting somewhere. I think polishing the process so it's all in the slicer somehow and also using those refillable inks would really propel this. It would be great to have something that just requires a blank filament and printer ink and then the colors can be faded or darkened on a whim to suit the print.
This looks super cool! It's probably beyond my current capabilities, but I truly hope enough people jump on-board to test this and get it to a final product. This seems pretty perfect for something like a KIckstarter campaign!
Typing this pre-watching, BUT this would also allow for Inkjet Based Binder Jetting or Resin Spray Based Printing! Also use on other things like a DIY/OS Optical Disc Publishers, or Large Format Printers!
That's a great idea to build on. The ink on printer is specifically made for paper, some acrylic paint would be able to get vibrant colors. Maybe using refillable gel printer head could yield better results and also be much cheaper to clean the residue.
I've often wondered how difficult it would be to engineer some kind of very small ink cartridge that had some kind of nozzles that color the filament as its being extruded? But, I quickly thought that would never work, because if you are introducing ink into hot plastic, that ink might boil away while you're printing causing all kinds of problems with the prints (same reason why people dry their filament). But, knowing how inkjet printers work, they pretty much work with just super tiny linear rows of nozzles that literally do use heat to "boil" the ink that causes it to be pushed out of these smaller-than-human-hair sized nozzles onto the paper. I wonder if with some really advanced engineering, if someone can create a "ring" of inkjet nozzles that can surround a hotend of a 3D printer, and so like right as your extrusion is happening, when the ring passes over the filament that was just laid down, it could just intelligently color that part? I'm probably making things way, way too complex here haha
I bought my AMS purely as a convenience towards changing filaments; the only multi-color printing I do is designed around things with single-color layers. The waste is... untenable. This system is just remarkably freaking cool.
See this is something that I've been thinking about for a long, long time. Like I'm sure I've seen some tinkerers do something similar to this long ago, but i'm amazed that its taken this long for someone to continue trying this out. I'd imagine that if like a printer manufacturer wanted to develop such a technology from the outset, they probably could do it. And, they could probably determine what would be the best type of filament to accept the ink printing without it bleeding too much.
This is HUGEEEE forward development! So in the future use 1 base color filament acting as basecoat and print the colors on the filament itself layer by layer. HUGE improvement compared to multiple color filament prints. Would love to see this get implemented by bambulab ASAP.
I think a toolhead changer is still the way to go. The results are vibrant, it allows for mixing materials and it doesn't waste filament. I just hope the cost goes down in the following years as more competition enters the market.
Same principle as the full color ABS powder systems, going back to Z-Corp (before Stratasys acquired them); those machines used HP cartridges as well. Very cool to see the application here!
HP does this for almost 10 years with their Jet Fusion printers. They are really on the Stratasys level of 3D printers when it comes to quality. It really outshines Bamboo and other cheap printers.
Wow, This sounds so much better than wasting plastic like the bambu lab printers do. I think if this is perfected it could be a much better path to colored prints. 👍
just to note, klipper can be controlled via octoprint but octoprint has to be running on the same host as Klipper. I'd imagine if you could bus the input of polydye through moonraker or klipper macros you'd be able to get it working there too
Just by looking at this implementation, one of the problems is that you really need a second black cartridge, both because standard cartridges are designed with CMYK in mind, and in practice just CMY is not enough to represent darker colours well. This ink is also designed for paper, so on PLA it might behave weirdly, which can lead to both blurring and the faint results you've got. I suspect PLA is too porous, and the ink gets absorbed too much, which is why more translucent filament works better. I've seen cartridges with fast drying inks though, and I wonder if those would help. Combined with less porous filament it might lead to more vivid colours. With the downside that those may dry too fast and might need some sort of cover between ink printing phases. I'm really impressed by this on the software side though. Getting ink to land precisely where it needs to go is not easy, and a lot of thought was put into making the calibration as easy as possible.
This is so cool. Thanks for sharing! It would be a 100% buy to tinker around with if it had Klipper support. I always enjoy testing multi color stuff, but the Marlin bit is a deal breaker for me right now.
I still like my idea from 10yrs ago, cmykw filament spools, 5 bodens, 1 tiny heated mixing chamber into 1 nozzle, never built it as I could have built the hexagonal chamber etc but no slicer to slice in colour so if built I couldnt test it, but very simply bby varying the speed of the 5 extruders you can select whatever mix of filament is needed to make whatever colour you want. you can purge tower to do create 'pure' colour switches or just fade from one to another for more creative effects
I'd love to see this as well. I've thought about it and the hard part to me is the mixing chamber. You couldn't just do a 5 into 1 setup as the plastic flow tends to be laminar so you would just end up with the 5 plastics sitting next to each other, not actually mixed.
just a thought to the 9mm colorshifting, maybe its dependend on the print speed. many slicers get faster the further you are along in the print. maybe at the 9mm mark your profile switches to full throttle
I've never seen a full colour 3D print solution that I would waste time on even if it was free, and this is no different, but it's definitely the right direction to go in. They need to take the ink cartridges off head, and use bottles not standard hyper expensive ink carts. It needs to include a low cost head cleaning solution such as an isopropyl feed. I suspect that this will eventually be the future of 3D printing, but it has a long way to go yet. In 5-10 years, this will be worth revisiting, but until it can manage really solid colour on low cost white filament, I'm not swapping one proprietary, expensive system for another.
@@williamsteele Yes, but it's messy and time consuming, and the capacity is too low. A continuous ink system, which is also already available, is a vastly superior solution.
Wow. This could be pretty revolutionary. I do wonder how well the cartridge ink blends with certain material types. I'm assuming PLA was used for this demo.
Very cool, but a weird of caution: USB and ribbon cables are not intended for applications with repeated and fast linear of bending movement and they will break after a while, giving either reliability issues or failed prints when it happens.
This is amazing, but how do you keep the printhead on the inkjet cartridge from drying out? The method described isn't a good way to keep them moist and clean
I'm super excited for where this is going. I really hope it doesn't turn into the shady 2d paper printer companies hopping over to the 3d print world to screw us with more of their bad ink sales practices. The fact that I can buy a kilo of CMYK filament for the price of a CMYK ink cartridge that last through a ream of paper is dumb.
awesome i have seen a few video over the years of this tech or similar and i would love to tinker and get this running.. but i don't use marlin and still sounds like a lot of work to process. i hope at the end of the day they will manage to make a plug and play 2 clicks done print.. i wish them and everyone working on the project the best of luck
@TeachingTech the results are still a bit underwhelming, but it might largely just be due to dye vs pigment-based inks. Would it be easier to just throw CMYK airbrush nozzles on a mini 5-axis robot arm and place the model to be painted on a turntable?
Holy smokes!! This is pretty incredible. The solution to full colour 3d printing was always in inkjet paper printing all this time.
If this could be made into a modernized and *Open Source* version of that laminated printed paper 3d printer that would be LEGENDARY
This has been around. XYZ da Vinci was already making a full colour 3D printer using HP industrial inkjet cartridges nearly a decade ago. Unfortunately i have never seen it actually really look good, and i don't know if the photos published by the project are a good representation of what it achieves, it's either too white and pale or too blurry too much subsurface scattering. It works well with absorbent surfaces where the ink modifies how the surface itself interacts with light, and this is just not how inkjet 3D printing works. We might not find a solution for it.
Always has been. It was one of the first ideas.
Getting it to work is the hard part. The really hard part.
It's probably going to need filament support. As in filament specifically for taking color. That means you're also going to need multi filament support, so you can use the expensive stuff only on the visible edges.
Mimaki is a ink jet printing company and they developed a color 3d printer that basically works like a inkjet printer just with CMYK resin
Yea that will work very well with a ciss. Great idea.
If you hit the model with a high-gloss clearcoat it may make the color pop a tad more, that tends to work with inkjet prints on paper.
My first thought aswell, would like to see it tested
Oh this is GENIUS, having static png layers really really makes this compelling, having the ability to use the human-readable PNGs to modify, e.g. the colors, or details, using an app like Lightroom or even Photoshop or Gimp that can batch process multiple files at once, you can apply color swaps or saturation changes en masse to use on prints without having to go back to the drawing board and work on the texture's UV mapped art - which for some can be very intimidating. This is freaking great.
Polyjet and other technologies that utilize 'inkjet' style printheads operate very similarly. Under the hood after everything is said and done it's all just bitmaps. Not sure about all the technologies but there are ways to access this and do your own simulations and output them to do true 'voxel' printing
The idea of having a huge spool of white (or clear, for those translucent prints), and a few big bottles of cheap, non-specific ink, and being able to flawlessly print out full color, high resolution prints would be absolutely brilliant. I hope they keep it up and wish them great luck.
BTW, I wanted to say thank you Michael Laws for all the great teaching videos you have posted over the years. I've watched many of your videos since 2019 and this helped me to become proficient in 3D printing. I've gone on from my first Ender 3 in 2019 to 14 different 3D printers all modded and running smooth, to a small print farm. I've had a lot of enjoyment doing 3D printing.
Thank you again as your videos help so many folks here on UA-cam. 👍 God Bless
with 14 different printers, I'm sure you yourself have quite a story to tell - tell us more!
The documentation and setup made for this is truly impressive. Huge amount of work. Look forward to seeing what the future for this looks like
Modding it to use Tanks+Lines would be a must too in my opinion (although still being able to swap the cartridge/head eventually is a must as well)
Technically third parties make continuous ink systems that work with printers that use the 67XL cartridge shown in the video, presumably all you'd have to do is convert an empty cartridge over using one of those kits and you'd have what you're asking for without having to redesign the system.
@@fdsman ive seen those, thats a good idea
And sublimation inks that are colorfast after UV exposure.
This is it! This is what'll make 3D printing as commonplace as regular printers!
It's so exciting that there are people out there thinking of crazy amazing ideas.
Hell yeah! I remember Make Anything & Blake3d's marker proof of concept and DaVinci's ink 3d printer and was wondering for a while if someone would pick up where they left off. The fact that this works with regular old off the shelf printer ink cartridges is awesome
I hope that this really takes off - looks great with lots of room to grow.
THATS INSANE!! I saw a video on colored resin printing recently and these models look just as good! Wow!! I really really cannot wait to see this develop into something truly incredible!!!
There is a Da Vinci 3d printer (Da Vinci Color released in 2017) that uses the same principle. Very interesting concept!
Was about to say the same thing. Not sure what happened with it since it has been a long time since I’ve seen anything new on it but it is nice to see an open source version. Think I might get one for my ender 3 v1 after they refine it a bit more.
@@tanithis tbf nobody wants to buy a mediocre 3D printer just for the ability to to print mediocre color parts.
This however is an addon/upgrade kit. You still have a great printer at the end of the day. Its flexible asf and you dont need to inconvenience yourself
This is so cool! Congratulations to Jacques and Bianca for achieving this and thank you for showcasing it. This definitely looks like something that could mature into being very user friendly. My pessimistic side thinks there’s a company out there now looking at how to make a full color 3D printer they sell very cheap with DRM on the cartridges.
Around 2012, the Z-Corp full color system was around $75k (USD) for the machine. The models had to be cleaned and resin infused; the process made cleaning resin prints seem like making toast! There was a vacuum infuser for very expensive resin ($3k per 5 gallons) that sold for around $30k. I was looking to run a small shop generating pre-surgical models from medical scan data, as well as architectural models (the primary intended use case); all-in, with the first round of supplies, there was easily $125k in start up cost.
Earlier this year I was chatting with a friend about 3D printing. I mentioned an idea I had but had no idea how to implement. He is an engineer and he thought the idea was interesting but he too had no idea where to even begin. The thought was to combine both inkjet printing technology with nanoparticle SLS printing. My thought was a powdered version of CA glue with the ink cartridges in the inkjet printer employing both a pigment and an chemical activator/catalyst. The printer would print it's layer spraying nano bubbles of activator which would then cause the powder to bond together. And just like with any inkjet printer you can have full control of the colour as it prints. No lasers, UV light, post washing/curing of resin, filament jams, or dangerously high temps. The thought was that this could literally be a desktop machine with a decent build volume but that would have a smaller, or similar, size footprint.
stratasys patented and sells a version of your idea :)
@@jamiexu6718 Interesting. well, it's nice to know great minds think alike. :)
Glad to see some progress being made for full color at home.
this is one of the most exciting things I've seen from 3d printing in several years. amazing work!!!
I've had this idea for a long time. The slicing part is where I was stuck. I'm just thrilled to see it come to life. This is the biggest inovation yet in home 3D printing. Let's just hope Stratsys doesn't buy it out and kill it. Congrats!
Just when I start to feel smart someone comes along and does something like this and makes me feel like a caveman beating rocks together 😂 this is such an awesome idea! Well done to the creator!
Very exciting development, wow there are some clever people out there, mind blowing.
This reminds me of a video of 3d printing nerd where they showed an industrial FDM printer that can - as I understand it - mix dye into the molten plastic, making it possible to print many colors including perfect transparency. Consumer devices are still far off, but wow - this is already impressive progress. 5+ years ago we had printer kits made of brittle acrylic parts, now we have filament swapping, toolchangers and inkjet coloring.
Awesome video, but an even more incredible adventure of having created such a pro-looking solution. Looks brilliant and very well done. Kudos.
Incredible. A ways to go for ease of use and color saturation, but WOW. This will change SO much for me, who doesn't really like painting or using filament for multicolor prints cause there's not enough colors to do it "right." With this I could, in theory, make the model, print it, then just get on with the post processing and weathering.
this is brilliant! Props to the two, amazing work and results are speaking for themselves.
That will be perfect for idex printers. Just one head for white filament, other head for coloring (with some little "home" which will protect the head from drying).
Wow, what a great idea. Look forward to seeing more of this.
Dude I've been waiting for a long time for someone to do this idea. Thank you so much for sharing this experience.
This is so freaking cool. I absolutely love this community. So many amazing projects and advances allowing this industry to flourish. I just hope the same kind of creativity and growth can start being applied to the CNC mill industry. I really want to branch into that as well.
This is great, I'm probably experienced enough to try to join the testing and try it out myself. And this is a good enough price for the output in my opinion. However, I simply want to wait until the next stage of this before I try it. It's a genus idea and it's such a cool concept. Tell him great work and keep it up!
13:02 this is absolutely unbelievable. Especially the images. And so cheap! I really hope this becomes more polished and accessible in the near future
Incredible work! What awesome dedication and commitment to making this tech work.
Very cool, but I just can't see myself ever handing over money for HP inkjet cartridges ever again xD
Well, since you're not dealing with an HP 2D printer's firmware to tell you you can't use a refilled Inkjet cartridge, there's nothing stopping you from buying the cartridge and refilling it yourself. You can basically look at it as a one-time purchase.
Maybe in the future even that can be diy'ed
@@4crafters597 Yep, or refined even. Inkjet cartridges were not intended for this purpose and probably have chemicals in them to help the dye adhere to paper. I'm sure there's different chemicals they can put in so it bonds better with certain thermoplastics.
@@sergeantsapient That makes me wonder, what if you use Sublimation ink instead?
@@Poorgeniu5 I was wondering that too. The only reason I can think of it not working is that's meant for sublimation material which then transfers to another material. I don't know if there's anything in the sublimation material that helps with that transfer.
I love when new clever advancements come to 3d printing!
Fantastic, this will be the next big thing in 3d printin space I am sure
Fantastic project. Full color 3d prints... I can't wait for the next iterations!
Nice!!! I remember the old inkjet kit... and this one added to an FDM printer is amazing. Order #1 placed! Shipping is very expensive... but I really want to support this project... so worth it.
Always come to you for outstanding ding innovations
That's amazing the one thing I'm thinking about is that is it possible for it to work with cheaper and refillable aftermarket Ink cartridges if it can then this is amazing
Or eventually a dedicated cartridge just for3d printing that is refillable instead of a hacked one. Heck maybe just a head with a hose with a tank that's somewhere on the frame.
@@Awrethien I think so too. This is just the easiest method for a homemade hack. Of course you can and have to scale it up further down the line. This is probably mostly a proof of concept to get everything working. Applying the Ink will be it's own Problem in the future. This will probably also affect the quality and layer adhesion so there will be a lot of testing needed still.
This is getting somewhere. I think polishing the process so it's all in the slicer somehow and also using those refillable inks would really propel this. It would be great to have something that just requires a blank filament and printer ink and then the colors can be faded or darkened on a whim to suit the print.
This looks super cool! It's probably beyond my current capabilities, but I truly hope enough people jump on-board to test this and get it to a final product. This seems pretty perfect for something like a KIckstarter campaign!
Very excited about the potential this has. I'm thankful that you are constantly keeping up with new technology.
Typing this pre-watching, BUT this would also allow for Inkjet Based Binder Jetting or Resin Spray Based Printing!
Also use on other things like a DIY/OS Optical Disc Publishers, or Large Format Printers!
That is so awesome and out of all upgrades, this is the one most interesting to me.
This is amazing. This fixes so many things if the colors are fast and stay. I'd be worried that they would rub off in the long term.
Well that's a pretty fantastic project, and an impressive amount of development
That's a great idea to build on. The ink on printer is specifically made for paper, some acrylic paint would be able to get vibrant colors. Maybe using refillable gel printer head could yield better results and also be much cheaper to clean the residue.
I've often wondered how difficult it would be to engineer some kind of very small ink cartridge that had some kind of nozzles that color the filament as its being extruded? But, I quickly thought that would never work, because if you are introducing ink into hot plastic, that ink might boil away while you're printing causing all kinds of problems with the prints (same reason why people dry their filament).
But, knowing how inkjet printers work, they pretty much work with just super tiny linear rows of nozzles that literally do use heat to "boil" the ink that causes it to be pushed out of these smaller-than-human-hair sized nozzles onto the paper. I wonder if with some really advanced engineering, if someone can create a "ring" of inkjet nozzles that can surround a hotend of a 3D printer, and so like right as your extrusion is happening, when the ring passes over the filament that was just laid down, it could just intelligently color that part?
I'm probably making things way, way too complex here haha
This is so cool. Very excited for the future of this project.
This is amazing! I was leaning towards building a box turtle, but I kind of want to do this instead now. I like the way the prints look with the ink.
This is incredible. Hope it becomes easy and commercial soon.
Very impressed and hopefully this could be my 2nd 3d printer!
About a thousand times more interested in this than an AMS, the plastic waste is horrific in current systems.
I bought my AMS purely as a convenience towards changing filaments; the only multi-color printing I do is designed around things with single-color layers. The waste is... untenable. This system is just remarkably freaking cool.
Just when I think we're reaching near peak of 3D printing, you pull this one out of your pocket. Whelp time to revive my old ender 3
This is bloody nuts. The amount of R&D alone. 🤯
Finally a good solution for 3d printing colored parts.
See this is something that I've been thinking about for a long, long time. Like I'm sure I've seen some tinkerers do something similar to this long ago, but i'm amazed that its taken this long for someone to continue trying this out.
I'd imagine that if like a printer manufacturer wanted to develop such a technology from the outset, they probably could do it. And, they could probably determine what would be the best type of filament to accept the ink printing without it bleeding too much.
Wow. I didn’t know this existed. What a cool project.
Very similar to Mimaki's printers. I love this content! Thank you!
This is HUGEEEE forward development!
So in the future use 1 base color filament acting as basecoat and print the colors on the filament itself layer by layer.
HUGE improvement compared to multiple color filament prints.
Would love to see this get implemented by bambulab ASAP.
Very interesting way of colouring 3D prints. Hope to see it on commercially available machines in a couple of years.
This is insane, great work!
I think a toolhead changer is still the way to go. The results are vibrant, it allows for mixing materials and it doesn't waste filament. I just hope the cost goes down in the following years as more competition enters the market.
Same principle as the full color ABS powder systems, going back to Z-Corp (before Stratasys acquired them); those machines used HP cartridges as well. Very cool to see the application here!
HP does this for almost 10 years with their Jet Fusion printers.
They are really on the Stratasys level of 3D printers when it comes to quality.
It really outshines Bamboo and other cheap printers.
wow it uses the same cartidges for color as the Jet Fusion printers.
Wow, This sounds so much better than wasting plastic like the bambu lab printers do. I think if this is perfected it could be a much better path to colored prints. 👍
just to note, klipper can be controlled via octoprint but octoprint has to be running on the same host as Klipper. I'd imagine if you could bus the input of polydye through moonraker or klipper macros you'd be able to get it working there too
Pigment ink is a lil brighter(vivid) and water proof
This is awesome man! New subscriber ✌🏻
Looks like I have a project to contribute to once I graduate with my CS degree. I think Klipper compatibility would really make this project take off
This is awesome, I would love to build this
Very cool 👍👍
Just by looking at this implementation, one of the problems is that you really need a second black cartridge, both because standard cartridges are designed with CMYK in mind, and in practice just CMY is not enough to represent darker colours well. This ink is also designed for paper, so on PLA it might behave weirdly, which can lead to both blurring and the faint results you've got. I suspect PLA is too porous, and the ink gets absorbed too much, which is why more translucent filament works better.
I've seen cartridges with fast drying inks though, and I wonder if those would help. Combined with less porous filament it might lead to more vivid colours. With the downside that those may dry too fast and might need some sort of cover between ink printing phases.
I'm really impressed by this on the software side though. Getting ink to land precisely where it needs to go is not easy, and a lot of thought was put into making the calibration as easy as possible.
This is so cool. Thanks for sharing! It would be a 100% buy to tinker around with if it had Klipper support. I always enjoy testing multi color stuff, but the Marlin bit is a deal breaker for me right now.
Gotta admit this is a cool step above using sharpies riding against filament.
Bummer about requiring marlin though. Left that f/w behind years ago.
TY for sharing.
This is a wonderful project.
Very cool! What a monumental step!
Taking the permanent markers idea to the year 3000! So cool.
Yea that will work very well with a ciss. Great idea.
Dye Sublimation Ink would pop colors even more and fuses better with specific plastics on high heat
I still like my idea from 10yrs ago, cmykw filament spools, 5 bodens, 1 tiny heated mixing chamber into 1 nozzle, never built it as I could have built the hexagonal chamber etc but no slicer to slice in colour so if built I couldnt test it, but very simply bby varying the speed of the 5 extruders you can select whatever mix of filament is needed to make whatever colour you want. you can purge tower to do create 'pure' colour switches or just fade from one to another for more creative effects
I'd love to see this as well. I've thought about it and the hard part to me is the mixing chamber. You couldn't just do a 5 into 1 setup as the plastic flow tends to be laminar so you would just end up with the 5 plastics sitting next to each other, not actually mixed.
just a thought to the 9mm colorshifting, maybe its dependend on the print speed. many slicers get faster the further you are along in the print. maybe at the 9mm mark your profile switches to full throttle
awesome, hopefully they don't get hit by patent trolls.
I can already see Stratisys foaming at the mouth.
Genius idea and amazed by the quality.
Would the colour pop more if it was coated with a clear coat of something
This is deeply impressive.
I've never seen a full colour 3D print solution that I would waste time on even if it was free, and this is no different, but it's definitely the right direction to go in. They need to take the ink cartridges off head, and use bottles not standard hyper expensive ink carts. It needs to include a low cost head cleaning solution such as an isopropyl feed.
I suspect that this will eventually be the future of 3D printing, but it has a long way to go yet. In 5-10 years, this will be worth revisiting, but until it can manage really solid colour on low cost white filament, I'm not swapping one proprietary, expensive system for another.
These cartridges can easily be refilled or plumbed with a refilling solution. Both are available already.
@@williamsteele Yes, but it's messy and time consuming, and the capacity is too low. A continuous ink system, which is also already available, is a vastly superior solution.
@@Martial-Mat Isn't that what I said?
2:02 One can configure Bambulab not empty the extruder from the old color to save filament. Sure, you get a gradient though.
Amazing progress!
Very cool idea. Something like this should be integrated in klipper and orca slicer. To avoid sync issues. I hope this will get mainstream soon.
Wow. This could be pretty revolutionary. I do wonder how well the cartridge ink blends with certain material types. I'm assuming PLA was used for this demo.
Very cool, but a weird of caution: USB and ribbon cables are not intended for applications with repeated and fast linear of bending movement and they will break after a while, giving either reliability issues or failed prints when it happens.
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I've always thought this was the obvious future, but it will probably require new materials and inks to fully realise its potential.
I was just thinking yesterday why this doesn't exist yet, I guess it does.
This is awesome! Have you thought of a clear thin resin application after printing? It might bring out the color more.
This is amazing, but how do you keep the printhead on the inkjet cartridge from drying out? The method described isn't a good way to keep them moist and clean
THIS IS MINDBLOWINGGGGGGG
I'm super excited for where this is going. I really hope it doesn't turn into the shady 2d paper printer companies hopping over to the 3d print world to screw us with more of their bad ink sales practices. The fact that I can buy a kilo of CMYK filament for the price of a CMYK ink cartridge that last through a ream of paper is dumb.
Now imagine this with multi color 3d printing. The level of detail would be crazy.
awesome i have seen a few video over the years of this tech or similar and i would love to tinker and get this running.. but i don't use marlin and still sounds like a lot of work to process. i hope at the end of the day they will manage to make a plug and play 2 clicks done print.. i wish them and everyone working on the project the best of luck
@TeachingTech the results are still a bit underwhelming, but it might largely just be due to dye vs pigment-based inks. Would it be easier to just throw CMYK airbrush nozzles on a mini 5-axis robot arm and place the model to be painted on a turntable?