Myth is a word that in modern times has been tarnished. If something is called a myth is not a compliment at all. I am glad some people still sees it as what it is : a glance of fundamental trues of human nature through fiction.
There is something called „foundation myth” - memory, or version of memory, that binds the society and creates common ground. We often forget about that in our individualistic society, but what is happening at the Ukraine is formation of such a myth. We are so often so ashamed by such symbolism, that we only find comparable figures in fables and movies. Note, that Russians are heavily rely on similar myth - Great Patriotic War that they imagine to fight over and over again. Irony...
Even back in WW2 people doing actual fighting often referenced mundane popular culture. My favourite example is how no less than 216 different American military units had Donald Duck on their insignia.
@@crusader2112 the way it is done is cringe. Like back then it had more gravitas and even subtlety to it. Nowadays with the advent of the internet there are people who are more aware of propaganda and the people makes these speeches are trying find more desperate references for the younger generations to rally.
@@toledochristianmatthew9919 in Japan they use anime characters to try to get people in Japan to enlist into the military or donate blood, we here in the west find it cringe (I personally find it hilarious) but if it works it works
That Dune is mentioned here is a bit funny and worrying for me. Its theme beneath the surface is that you NEVER should trust a charismatic leader. The Harkonnen are absolutly corrupt in almost every sense but our heros are cautionary tales too!(In the end they choose two paths. One of personal gain, to the cost of Billions of other people lives. Or an "enlightened" path under ones iron fist that may have positive universal gain in the far future but is even more bloody and suffucating than the first "option"
This is the main reason i criticised NATO's post. They clearly saw only the movie where Paul had no doubts about the path he need to choose. Paul's victory meant galactic Jihad and billions of deaths in the galaxy. When i mocked one of my country's politician for brainless retweet of the NATO tweet i was called supporter of Russia. It's important to know your myths,
@@PanKimin its necessary sacrifice, u know how we say in europe? The road to Hell is paved with good intentions" but what you propose is far worse. Ignore the problem altogether in hope it disappear. You are Fashist, because you are on an intruder side like in 1939. "why die for danzig?' take your +15 rubles.
I remember replying on a comment on some video about the war in Ukraine that we should pray for both the Ukrainians and the Russians in this conflict. Then I kid you not someone effectively said “we don’t do that here.” It seems there are some if not many Christians out there who would only pray for those they support (Ukraine), which even if we all agree that Russia is a persecutor, it’s so easy to forget we are commanded to pray for our persecutors.
I remember the story chirstmas miracle of 1915, where allies and Germany met each other in no man land and play football or as American know it soccer. In the mist of the worst place you can be in a war, there was one moment of human kindness existed against the tide of hate towards fellow neighbors.
Not just any Allies, the English specifically. The Christmas Truce could have ONLY happened between the English and Germans. At the beginning of the war both sides had a sentiment that they shouldn’t be fighting each other. This would never have happened between the French and Germans.
These truces were the result of Marxist ideaology permeating the lower classes realizing they did not need to die for the petty power plays of the elites and if they threw off their overlords they could create a peaceful world together.
I have the theory that people get fucked up by wars in ancient time, then PTSD and other shenanigans made them write the proto classic stories. People get scared by their text, so they did some editing, then somehow, what we see is the heroic tales in which dying men can recite beautiful poems. Fiction is how we deal with our problems. Sending echos into the roaring of crowds and expecting the echos return.
Heroic stories are a product of cultural values. A tribe needs warriors to maintain standard of living (through defense and conquest). This need leads leaders to glorify warriors with words and rewards. This glorification of warriors by leaders bleeds into culture. Ancient stories are products of cultural values meant to pass on those values. That is why "heroic" tales are so common.
There is almost no evidence for PTSD pre-WW1. This is in my view likely because war was 90% marching and 10% war. Even that 10% can be broken down to little time actually spent fighting. It seems to me what changed with modern warfare is that a soldier is in close proximity to not only loud explosions etc, but the constant threat of death for extended periods of time. That kind of stress breaks the mind, where a handful of hours of fighting over a campaign season does not.
@@xenophon5354 I think it has something to do with the nature of modern weapons, explosions and gun shots are just more of a shock to the nervous system and harder for the mind to comprehend than spears and arrows
I’m happy to know your safe Pilgrim. I don’t know what to think of this war anymore, it feels every day that another truth about the war it’s buried beneath a million lies about it. My prayers go with you brother. Please be safe.
@@nothing-of5yc there has been peace talks since the beginning but the west keeps refusing and still send equipment and volunteers to die, if they really wanted the war to end they would have stopped sending shit and actually negotiate a peace treaty
It's very simple, one side is defending their homes and their land and their freedom, the other is invading and destroying people's homes and killing innocent civilians. All the rest doesnt matter. One side is fighting for their freedom, the other is trying to conquer another people. It's as simple as that.
Thank you very much for this video. I just graduated high school and I want to become a fantasy author, but I have been doubting whether or not such a career really contributes anything to the world. I don't pretend to be the next Tolkien, or the next anything, but I want to write something with meaning, something that will last. You have renewed my faith in the importance of stories, and I can't thank you enough for that.
@@djcoopes7569 I would, and no offense, but I don't think it would be a good idea to give out my personal information like email to a random person on the internet - again, no offense.
Every one of your videos always manages to send my mind reeling, followed by a period of deep contemplation. This one is no different. Thank you for your service and keep up the good work!
Another great video im not a fan of a lot of the politics surrounding this war but i have a lot of respect and love for the common foot soldier fighting to protect his back yard
Yep, I respect Donbass militias. Ukraine is the one killing them, have been trying to take their lands and destroy them. I have no respect for people fighting for the Bandera ideology, for the current regime. They are just making money for the military industrial complex running things by pulling the strings of the puppets running the regime.
this topic about stories inspiring real events has fascinated me for sometime now, and thinking about it further made me realize that Jose Rizal's Noli Me Tangere and El Filibusterismo novels inspired my country men a hundred years ago to further revolt agaisnt the spaniards after his death. although Rizal was much more of a pacifist, his books (intended or not) pushed the filipino people into rebellion
The funny thing is that he never wanted a revolt, only for Spain to recognize the country within its court. When he was arrested, he was going to Cuba to help with the casulaties of the war that happened there. Who knows if the story is true to the condition of most Filipinos at the time, or it's just the views of the illustrados at the time being justified in his novels? Maybe it's somewhere in-between. One thing was certain: all that happened in the foundation of the First Republic after that was founded under blood and corruption to acheive a greater good on the surface while casting aside what is sacred to an extent, a pattern that's still today present in Philippine politics.
From my nihilistic perspective I have always had trouble finding hope in times like this. Always thought that wars were the business of a few glory-hungry leaders and geopolitical interests, and that what makes peace impossible is our imperfect and selfish nature that will only be solved when genetic engineering advances enough to format our brains into perfect specimens or if it's not possible let it all burn in nuclear hell for all I care. The truth is that I had not seen it as this happened in this positive way and find a heroic way out of all this. I will try to live this message, despite how difficult it is to have hopeful and kind toughts.
Perhaps the reason there are wars and power hungry leaders in the first place is how things are. Unaccountable people in high places with great power makes madmen. Think about the percentage of our leaders (or CEOs or whatever) that are pedos vs the percentage of pedos in the total population. Chances are the percentage for the leaders/CEOs is higher. Power and unaccountability allows you to do so many things with little consequence, no matter how nasty. It is not enough for a change in our hearts, we need a change in the very system and structure of society.
Thank you for making this video. I've had a lifelong fascination with the Arthurian legends for exactly this reason. The single greatest hero tale ever told. Yes, i say tale, though in fact i think it irrelevant wether Arthur ever existed. After more than a thousand years of retelling his stories we have made him real and he is now a fundamental part of our life story. His story is alive in us today and is a foundation stone in most every aspect of our modern culture. Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦.
I admit, in my university studies of history and geopolitics, I feel that I have become more cynical, but I always try to remember that human beings are capable of great good, and the bad guys of history have lost before. God bless you for you good deeds in Ukraine, and I pray for the future
Huns cross the Tanais and it takes a military alliance of a decadent empire and barbarian horse-lords to put an end to their razing spree, culminating in the battle on the Catalaunian Plains, death of the Hun witch-king (by a female hand as legend has it), and collapse of the invading force. Said events massively influence European folk memory, manifesting in countless legends such as the Norse ‘Battle of the Goths and the Huns’ or the German Rhine Gold cycle. The imagery of this tradition remains powerful enough for the word ‘Huns’ to be thrown around in the context of a World War as an archetypal bloodthirsty, faceless, questionably-human menace. A British World War survivor mythologises his personal experience as well as the contemporary political situation on the continent, evoking millennia-old imagery but weaving it into a more streamlined and easy-to-access narravite than the fragmented ancient tradition no one cares to read anymore. The menace in the East strikes again. Those on the frontlines use the Brit’s novel terminology to describe the situation. Meanwhile the core of the narrative in the Brit’s new mythology remains unchanged since Late Antiquity and refers to an eerily similar situation that arose on the same very soil where it’s happening today. Full circle.
Just my 2 cents here, but I feel like a lot of people of misunderstanding the point of this video. It’s not a declaration for either Ukraines or Russias governments. It’s simply just a video examining how literature has been used to create an over arching national narrative, that allows its side to appear as the “good guys”. Though as an aside, if you blindly follow and support either Ukraines or Russias governments you probably got some brain rot you should get looked at, there’s bad actors on both sides, especially the higher you look, but go figure, it’s war, but it’s important to remember that governments can often not represent its people correctly, rather represent what’ll get the most from other world governments, so it’s important not to dehumanize a nations people. This all might be a shit take but idk But always remember “it’s only Kool if the people I like do it”
Eh, there is merit to this in theory but there's some flaws in assuming that this is a case of 'bad people on both sides'. Mainly that that particular narrative is a result of the approach russian propaganda takes where they will tell as many lies as possible (mass shelling of donbass civilians when most of the relatively few civilian deaths were the result of landmines, bio weapons labs, nazis being elected en masse, etc) in order to try and muddy the waters since it takes way longer to counter them than it does to spew more lies. Nevermind that they're basically speed running all the dumb shit the nazis did, from the constant infighting between its leaders that is fucking over their war effort, to the deluded 'great leader' at the head of this mess preferring loyalty to people who know what they're doing , to wasting resources on the mass kidnapping of civilians. Like yeah presumably there's the usual eastern european corruption and whatnot in ukraine, but let's not pretend its comparable to the country literally locking people up for thought crimes.
@@jeromeace1282 people like you are the reason I more or less support using strategic nuclear weapons. Because amount of mouthbreathing propaganda enjoyers such as yourself among your populations is way too high. Thankfully you're reaching the point of your governments just printing money to make everyone rich, so it's not even gonna be needed.
Well, I think it's really lame then. Certain amounts of truth? Absolutely, but a lame, pseudo-intellectual take. Apart from that, he specifically backs only Ukraine and only went out of his way to see it from that POV. His nearly parting line was "cuz they're better than THOSE PEOPLE". Bruh...
@@fullm3taljacket Well yeah…the Ukrainian people are better than the Russian government, heck, odds are they’re better than their own government…just like the Russians in the 40s or during the napoleonic invasion. Plus he’s speaking from experience, or course it’s gonna be a one sided perspective, what he saw was Ukrainian people being brave in the face of an invading army, an admirable quality in anyone. The shoe was on the other foot some 60 years ago. I know this all makes me sound like a Ukrainian apologist, but (shocker) I don’t like the Ukrainian government, all my respect for it and Zelenskyy went out the window when he would not stop begging for more and more foreign aid, not to mention the Orthodox Christian prosecution currently happening in Ukraine at the hands for his government, no doubt propagated by warmongers and globohomos
When you mention argument about leaving Ukraine for chance of global peace that used to be popular (and still is here and there) I realised how perspective changes a lot. I'm Polish and here the vast majority of population couldn't even come to their minds that leaving Ukraine would resolve problem. It's not just the sympathy for Ukrainians, truth be told, there is difficult history between our nations, and there are many people that aren't so proukraine. I don't write that to challenge freindship between us, which florished since start of the war - at least one good thing that resulted from that tragedy. What I'm trying to say is that here, in eastern Europe, nations like Poland, Lithuania, Lativia, Estonia, Chechia, Slovakia, even Finland knew that Russians won't stop. That Ukraine was meant to be only a beginning in Russian conquest - we still remember 1920 and 1939. For distance countries like mentioned India or Brazil, assumption that's it only question of Donieck and Ługańsk, could sound reasonbly. But for eastern Europeans that survived soviet regime, or their children that heard about it and still faces its consequences, it was as clear as crystal that Putin want to remake USSR. And it's also clear for all of us, that we do everything to not let that happen. Also, it's not a reason to hate Russians. There is even old saying that Poles and Russians would be best friends if they don't live so close to each other- we have a lot in common (not only skill in drinking vodka). I wish to Ukrainian soldiers prevail, not Russians die - it's something that's required not wanted. I hope, just like you said, that they would change, they would want to be part of Europe, not our main antagonist. And maybe someday, we would be friends. But for now, at least Poles and Ukrainians became friends after long time of animosity. It turns out a friend in need is a friend indeed - and it worked in both sides
thank you bro. Russia is evil by-design. We can not be safe unless it is destroyed. And i rememeber well that we ended up occupied by Russia as a result of our war against Poland (Polish Crown at the time).
Remember Volyn? Remember the 60k? Ukraine's leadership embraces stepan bandera who was the leader of the UPA. But I guess you can suck Zelensky's and Ukraine's dick
"new that Russians won't stop. That Ukraine was meant to be only a beginning in Russian conquest" sums up entire Russian history. Russia is not attacking neighbors only when it gets weak due to complete and utter misery of the life they themselves create as a society
Well said and very pragmatic. Even with my surface level understanding of Polish history in WWII, I can understand why the Polish people would think like that. During WWII, Poland was ABANDONED. The Western Allies covered up Katyn because they needed the Soviet Support to efficiently defeat the Germans while minimizing their own losses. Meanwhile during the Warsaw uprising, the Soviets stopped instead of intervening for similar reasons. Of course modern Poland would not make the mistake of letting itself be at the mercy of other foreign powers with their own agendas and goals. Hence Poland's recent push to make its military stronger makes a lot of sense. Poland will decide its own destiny by its own hands and not depend on the whims of others. Sure many might consider Ukraine blessed by all the support it gets from the US and other powers but its obvious that the leaders of these countries care little about Ukrainians people themselves but rather only want to weaken Russia, their political competitor alongside other agendas. Love from Bangladesh.
2:43 I just thought of the confusion of a Ukrainian soldier wearing the Jedi or rebellion symbol coming across a Russian soldier wearing the same Jedi or rebellion symbol for the same reason.
@@Oceaan25you don't get what he was saying. Both would believe they are the "good guys" and believe they are upholding the ideals of a shared fandom. Russians have their side and both sides have their propaganda.
""Power isn't determined by your size, but the size of your heart and dreams!" -Monkey D. Luffy... Was another phrase that the ministry of defense posted online. Man I always thought that I was the strange one taking motivation from One Piece but, I guess even in matters of life and death people take inspiration in fantasy.
I think the most powerful speech in LOTR is that of Faramir when speaking of the men of the East. "The enemy? His sense of duty was no less than yours, I deem. You wonder what his name is... where he came from. And if he was really evil at heart. What lies or threats led him on this long march from home. If he would not rather have stayed there... in peace. War will make corpses of us all." Putin may be Sauron, but the Russian people are no Orcs. They are human, same as the rest of us. And war will make corpses of us all.
THIS!!! Gosh people view putin as the "savior of normality" what a fucking joke. And yes, sauron has to be defeated, but its not like we shouldnt feel sorry for the brainwashed masses in russia.its not their fault they were born there.
Всё можно изменить. Именно так на Украине предатель, который сражался на стороне нацистов, времён Второй Мировой Войны теперь Национальный Герой Украины
Ukraine is far from weak. They have the largest standing army in all of Europe, only losing to Russia. They also inherited a huge stockpile of Russia's Soviet Arms as the Donbass used to be the USSRs main hub of arms manufacturing. They made everything there, from Rockets, Helicopters to Tanks and Artillery.
Respect to You for helping Ukraine so directly. I live in Poland and there was some animosity and hatred between Us and Ukraine in the past, to say the least. Once a heart of Polish culture is now within Ukrainian borders, Lviv, or Lwów in Polish. Ukrainians to this day treat genocidal terrorists like Bandera as national heroes. But I hope this war, as horrible as it is could be a foundation for a friendship that shall lasts for centuries. This idea kind of eases the pain of the past atrocities. The idea that maybe We've grown enough to begin a new chapter. Sometimes You need the greater threat to see that maybe we all are not so different. Kinda like Gimli and Legolas. :P
@@broctheil4744 Good to hear. Tiny minority of extremists here claim all Ukrainians are sleeper agents that worship Bandera that gona replace us Like they did in Lviv. But most Polish people stand together with Ukraine in their struggle and once the war is over I hope we can remain friends. :)
This is whithout a doubt the 1st yt video that made me drop tears. By the love of God and all that there is beauties are beautiful and incredible creatures.
Dehumanizing the enemy in war is a psychological compartmentalization for the necessity of the situation; I could only imagine it being that much worse for a soldier on the defensive side. Anyone who isn't a combat veteran needs to keep their negative criticisms of this mindset to themselves because it involves a number of experiences that you fundamentally cannot relate to.
Interesting how both sides see themselves as the underdog against the big evil empire. Two things I know about war: it's hell, and it apparently never changes.
I think it's interesting how not sacred we as contemporary people view stories and a lot of our existence. I remember listening to someone who described the modern worldview as having "disenchanted" the world. It seems that a lot of sacredness and ritual was lost on our people.
I think the general consensus is that only the Z Russians are called Orks and anti Z Russians are not. Dehumanizing your enemy is frankly a needed coping mechanism for lots of combatants. Many people would go insane quite rapidly from focusing on the human lives they personally ended. By focusing on killing a tank your not focused on killing the crew. The same goes for fighter pilots. They focus on the enemy jet and pray for a parachute. That being said, I am obviously very pro Ukraine but I have never and will never call a Russian an Ork, soldier or civilian. I don't need to dehumanize them so I can kill them. Seeing non-Ukrainian people online calling them Orks does bother me. Ukrainians can call them whatever they like. That's a perk of being the one who's gotten invaded
Sadly the only thing I know about this war is that latin american soldiers soldiers went there with promises of merc contracts, just to die without ever seeing the first payment, and on top of that there are videos on youtube of Ukrainians kicking the crap out of then for no good reason, enjoying racist slurs and getting used as cannon fodder considering most of the ukrainian were civilians dressed as military with no discipline, doctrine or experience. Like Emerson said "Thy love afar is spite at home."
I am a seventh day Adventist. My church reached out to a church in Ukraine when the war started. We had video call with the pastor. They were talking refugees in the subway last time we spoke,we lost contact a few weeks.
I think that a major factor in referring to Russians as Orcs is that the Ukrainian people feel like hobbits, and can identify with the protagonists in The Lord of the Rings more than many nations might. Both Ukraine and the Shire are small, underestimated communities of farmers that the villain doesn't consider a threat and believes to be a mere pawn for his real enemies, but who, by sheer courage, can take him down. It doesn't hurt that Zelenskyy is himself short and round-faced.
@@KitMikit Very good point. I was thinking in terms of being initially outnumbered and outgunned, but standing your ground anyway, which is a hobbity thing to do. When I think of courage in the face of daunting challenges, I think of hobbits. But you're right, you have an ancient and well-developed culture, like Gondor, which should never be subordinated to those who despise that culture and wish to eradicate it. I also think of theoretically stronger nations depending desperately on Ukraine to win this fight, just as Gondor and Rohan and Rivendell depended on hobbits to overthrow the Dark Lord--with their help, but foreign armament and support can't take the place of the courage of those who actually deal with Sauron on the front line.
Ukraine is far from weak and small lol. They have the largest standing army in all of Europe and land mass, only losing to Russia in both. They also inherited a huge stockpile of Russia's Soviet Arms as the Donbass used to be the USSRs main hub of arms manufacturing. They made everything there, from Rockets, Helicopters to Tanks and Artillery. Ukraine is no pushover, if you were to put NATO in Russia's place. It would be the same result.
@@pilotmanpaulthat's what shocks me about peoples interpretation of the military side of this conflict People compare it to Iraq when Iraq had absolutely no air defense Worthy of the name Ukraine had the best air defense in probably the world given how much S_300 systems they had them add all the stingers and the Patriots they received..... The degradation of their air defense by surovikin was a long game of chess Also one has to consider the impact of the entirety of NATO providing intelligence and "consultants" (you know like in Vietnam 😂😂) Mercs 150billions$ in weapons How the F*ck can anyone compare Ukraine to Iraq ???
You'd be surprised how many people on the right actually do want to metaphorically punch Russia in the face by supporting the Ukrainians this is like a 1980s fantasy turned reality to them
To support Ukraine because every other alternative is a net negative for the world is a good point. As an American, I find it ridiculous we send money over to Ukraine at levels that go above what our politicians say and when we have our own problems that need that money. We are also in a lot of debt. That being said, the point you make is the most rational and I do think we should support, it is simply a matter of how much given who the US is and our needs. Poland, where my family comes from, is in such a situation that if Russia is not stopped then Poland is next. The rhetoric and actions from Russia are already there. I appreciate you sharing your experience and the heroic acts of the common people.
thank you my friend. I understand that perspective. there's also the point however, that the US Government taxes people internationally, including myself since international youtubers are taxed by the US Government. Only we don't get representation. So in this case at least, I like that my tax dollars are going to an international cause that also affects me. Being a EU citizen.
@@PilgrimsPass Thank you for responding. Just to clarify, It isn't that we are giving money but the amount. If we flaunt too much it becomes a pseudo-war scenario making Russia more justified in one upping towards nuclear and direct confrontation with us. The other side is that we continue to go into debt and have serious problems here that should get some of that money. As you stated, I agree it is best to support given you don't want the status quo to change.
@@ModernPapistoh please. So Russia let's Ukraine join NATO And they break minsk accords, maidan coup happens in finances backed by US to put banderites Nazis in power who hates Russians and been killing 15k civilians in Donetsk region and you still want to support Ukraine?
@@ModernPapistwho invaded middle east and Africa raping for resources? It WASN'T RUSSIA but NATO. Who has 800 bases around the world? uSA. Remember that.
well, if you look at the russian casualties, and the amount spent on ukraine, this is the best investment the US ever made. They are giving a fraction of the US military budget to ukraine, and they fuck up the second best military in the world. If anything, the US needs to keep that money tap flowing (with greater restiction on what it is spent on, because ukraine is one really corrupt country, and thats a fair criticism), and even though the amounts spent on ukies seem to be sky high, but the US government has so much money, like... just compare the aid with the military expenditure. Which is like... 5-6% of the government expenditure?
Very interesting points about grand narratives between large groups of people like nations, corporations, and other large institutions around the world. Even in this present state of the world, where world economy is not great and tension between nations are high. Hope that whether happens in Ukraine in the future will not affect their fighting spirits for independence and prosperity.
Gołkowski, wrote "Sybirpunk" even before the invasion. It is Cyberpunk but about Russia. It is ruled by a bimortal president - Cyborg. Oligarchy flourishes and Russia closed after the "Second Crimean War". After the invasion, the author said he was surprised himself. He did not think that the Russians would attack Kiev. His puki what fiction turned out to be more true than his analysis.
This is the most level head content on the war that I had seen on the internet, everything is so black and white, the good and the baddies, that is just blatantly stupid or cringe. Great video I had my doubts at the beginning, good thing I gave you the chance and you did not dissapoint me.
В начале Вы говорите, что всё это глупо, так как тут всё разделено на чёрное или белое, а потом: "Нееет, всё тут нормально, я ошибался". Я не понимаю, откуда такой вывод
In 43' my grampa 6 yrs old forgot his gas mask at school during an air raid in Scotland. It took him 30 min to run back to the school and back to the shelter. Good news is that nothing dropped on Scotland that day
Hey Pilgrims pass, ByzCath from VaBeach. Please pray for Fr Ivan Levytsky and Fr Bohdan Heleta, two Ukrainian Greek Catholic priests in Russian captivity. There are more, orthodox, who have been turned into Matyrs. ☦️
Love this. LoTR been one of my favorite books since my dad read it to me when I was little. And I had never thought of it, but it totally is the great Anglo/West epic. One point of disagreement: One of the things that makes The West so special, is that anyone, from anywhere in the world can leave their old life behind, embrace liberal values, and make a home for themselves amongst the Free Peoples.
Really? I wanna leave West, because lberal values now includes dissolution of families, hate to males, end of paternty and eradication of natives. Ukrain is replacing a devil by another.
Mate, you truly made a phenomenal video, which is about so much more than "Ukraine good" and "Russia bad". Yet, I immediately knew once I saw the title that the comment section is going to be as toxic as humans can possibly make it, but don't let that discourage you.
I love this channel and analysis. I disagree with who is actually playing the role of the Empire and Freedom fighters but I’m glad that you’re not just falling in lock step with what you “should” be believing. Great content.
Using the USS Enterprise theme for the Ukranian strugle for freedom is absolute perfection. A heroic ship whos crew lost so many of her friends, comrades and sisters, saw the brutality of what the Japanese Empire did, took critical damage time and time again only to come back and continue the fight no matter the odds placed against her. She never backed down and continued to fight for freedom.
I heard an account of Ukrainian soldiers, a mix of Orthodox, Catholic, & Protestants taking the Eucharist together before going into battle. I know there are theological issues with this, but I could not help being moved by it.
I like Ukrainians, I know what you mean by hospitality, but also human connection 1 on 1, also gratitude they have expressed knowing that I am Pole, also because Poland helped them a lot. You have a brand new perspective, devoid of the historical context, or neighbor to neighbor brutality. What you observe now is an underdog story, that did absolutely nothing wrong, and defend their own motherland against brutal attacker. We helped an underdog - Ukraine in numerous ways, but will not receive an apologize for Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia... massacre done mainly on civilians in most brutal way, done with farming equipment, axes, and knifes, in a most brutal manner. Women - eve pregnant, children, old people everyone. Whole villages, tens of thousands of people were erased. The year that Ukraine was attacked was a year of OUN UPA - nationalist army of Ukraine that plotted and executed the massacre. We have not received an apology regarding this, and despite the fact that I like Ukrainians in their individuality, in person to person relationship, and I feel sympathy to those who were hurt in the current conflict - I don't trust them in the mob, I don't trust their leadership, and their heroes who were murderous bastards. There are similar stories against soviet Russians, raping and pillaging Poland during their "liberation" effort, and I like Russians, I really do. Mentality of Russian, and Ukrainian people are very close, they are of the same civilizational mold. They are warm, but I don't trust them in their mob. I wouldn't want to be on their bad side, because there is no atrocity that is out of the question from their side once right buttons are pushed.
You are forgetting about Pacification and Polonisation of Galicia, my man. Don't play an innocent angel here. While I do agree that there should be an apology, it should be from both sides of the story.
@@vitaliitomas8121 Are you seriously using Pacification of Galicia as the worst case in your book, and compare it to massacres in Volhynia, Malopolska Wschodnia, that altogether brings death toll of 100 (lovest estimate) -130 k people, mostly civilians, killed in the most gruesome, gore way, and burned in churches. Please, everyone, be my guests, research the two, see for yourself the magnitude of difference. Be my guest to investigate historical background of the mentioned pacification. Another disconnection: Police forces that participated in Galician Pacification are not proclaimed as "Polish heroes" (they followed orders, their acts were not at all heroical, we have way better heroes already in Polish history), but people directly responsible for Volhynian Massacre are national heroes of Ukraine, Stepan Bandera is a father of your nation. The year that Ukraine was attacked was a year of OUN UPA, but our leaders when someone spit in their face pretend that it's raining. Let me put this into some perspective, you silly-Billy... your country was assaulted, right? You are looking for allies, right? It would be a nice think to allow for exhumation of Polish-nationals, admit atrocities, and say "sorry", without playing this stupid game. You have a lifetime opportunity to at last get real heroes, reject monsters, allow for Christian burial of Polish skeletons that you have in your closet.
@@drwalmgc Let them have their heroes, man, for now. They are key for warsupport and both military and civilian morale. After the war they'll have enough political capital to try to reform. As of right now, more important is stopping the impending red wave in it's tracks rather then feuding over who killed more of whom, or the war will come to us. Are you willing to sacrifice yourself for those thieves sitting in Sejm, arguing over who stole more? Let them have their heroes, for now. Once the dust settles, we'll see if we had made true friends or just a new allies.
@@arturzakacz6066 You are intellectual analphabet. Let Germans have their own heroes too, why there is such a hate towards nazis... they send supplies to Ukraine, let them have their heroes. I think this is 1 to 1 what you have just stated... forget about their Bundestag, or crooked politicians of Israel, let Germans have their heroes. They will surely respect us in the future, if we also support the same cause, or if we buy high technology from them, and kill our own industries. This is a ground for best buddies relationship - ever.
Ну конечно же солдаты СССР(ну и конечно же именно русские) насиловали и зверствовали во время освобождения Польши. Конечно же нацисты из германии заботились о Польше лучше, чем СССР. Скорее всего не нужно было "освобождать" Польшу, ведь там сидели добрые фашисты
Gotta say, i have no idea why i even bother reading yt comments on the topic of this invasion as they pretty much end up being the same. Anyway, cool video as always, Pilgrim. I pray to the Lord this suffering ends soon.
I can't say how much I got inspired by your video. I'm a brazilian just like you, stil living in our country, but I enjoyed a lot watching videos of Peterson and Jung's teachings (I'm a psychology student myself). I've also been thinking on living my personal myth, and this video gave me a lot of insights on it. This is it, Pilgrim Pass! This is the personal myth, you should read more about this.
When you think about it, mythes and fictions are always inspired by real world events, which makes them easy to identify to in future real world events. All those stories that were inspired by either the first, second or both world wars can now be used to talk about the war in Ukrain to a lesser extent, both in the politics, discourses and tactics employed on the field. But also for the heroic stands, pushes and offensives, the victories and defeats, ... all of these can be found in works of fiction. And I am sure that this war will also end up inspiring new works of fiction and tales of heroism that will then be used to describe future conflicts, and inspire future works of fiction
I suppose the real problem with this isnt people identifying with the Heros of stroies. It's carelessly using these stories to define your enemies as less than human.
The obvious counterargument to your whole point is the South Park episode where Reality crashes the fundraiser party all the celebrities are having. Myths are nice to indulge in once in a while, but the whole point of a myth is that you can visit but can't stay.
Man, thank you so much for this video. I'm from Ukraine myself and I've been watching your videos since last autumn. Needless to say, I was impressed that you were volunteering in my country. I may not agree with some details about the lack of hatred towards rusians, because as a Ukrainian I have my own experience, but I got goosebumps from watching it, for real! Huge respect to you. The world must know who is on the side of Evil and who is on the side of Good. Light will overcome Darkness. Slava Ukraini!
Dude, I respected you for your interesting and knowledgeable analyses of fiction but now I think I love you for going where most people are running away from.
LOL, no, he is walking the sheeple path, pretending to understand fairytale propaganda so that he can deny he is buying into it. He should really stay with fiction, because obviously that's his strength.
And here us Americans are being Mandalorians... some of us are being well meaning but idiotic new Mandalorians, others are trying to be the War Mongers of our past, and yet still others want to get ourselves prepared for what may happen to us.
Pilgrim has my sincere respect for volunteering in Ukraine during a time of war. This was a brave act of pure compassion. Neverthelless I do think that he was too biased in this video. He forgot (?) that from the perspective of millions of people, Russian and non-russians, Putin is the heroic king who fights against the ever expanding evil empire of USA and it's modern anti-cutural influence on the world. This view is of course naive just like it is naive to idolize Zelensky. Contemporary geopolitical reality is simply much more complicated than mythological stories like Harry Potter where the distinction of evil and good is sharp and clear. This is the main reason why the Nato post and the comparison of the invasion of Russia to Ukraine with the invasion of Saruman to Rohan are cringe. If I were to choose of a mythological epic as a metaphorical parallel to the crisis in Ukraine, I would choose Homer's Ilad. Two forces clashing with extreme violence against each other, both showcasing moments of unust cruelty and malice but also moments of honour and compassionate kindness, and both having their own unyielding reasons to continue to fight with heroism until the bitter end.
That Propaganda from Russia. There were literal Millions of Men fleeing Russia when Putin put a Limited Draft on. There were Protest Putin crushed. Putin is no Heroic King.
@@arnowisp6244 Literally not true. Many left, not millions, and odds are pretty good they wouldn't have gotten called up, if they did they wouldn't qualify, and if they did qualify, they would have made it clear that Russia wouldn't want them out there fighting either. Russia is a better place without them. and yes every protest should be "heard"...except no. 80% of Russians support the SMO.
@@arnowisp6244 Where are you from, because America and Ukraine do the same. Just because westerners like the idea of freedom for freedom's sake, not everyone sees that way. The West doesn't understand this concept. And I'm American by the way, so calling me the mouth of the regime is just a bit outside of reality.
@@fullm3taljacket a couple of things. First off, about half a million people left Russia in Autumn, with several hundred thousand leaving in Spring. The total is close to a million. A very significant percentage of these are fighting age males. There is no doubt some of them would have been called up. Secondly, the 80% support for the war is a myth, and is a wilful misinterpretation of sketchy data. I´ve looked into this in some depth. What that is telling you is that one in five Russians detests the war enough that they are ready to openly defy the regime. Only around a third of people in Russia support the war to the point where they consider it acceptable that they themselves, or a close friend or loved one, take part in the war. This number is pretty consistent in Russian, Ukrainian and Western polling data. The majority of the Russian population could best be described as non-commital and fatalistic.
Zelensky having been an actor who played the President of Ukraine before becoming President of Ukraine is both one of the coolest and cringiest things I have heard. Putin identifying with a spy from a movie he saw as a kid makes sense and fits nice with my theory that Putin thinks of himself as the savior of modern Russia. However, it is clear he is not and I imagine the real savior, if there was one, is either living a middleclass life in Canada or the US after there parents emigrated there in the 90s, or the savior was never born because their grandfather was shot during Stalin's purges. I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I am worried the Ukraine War is just Act I in a larger New Russian Civil War and we will wake up some day and see that Belarus, Russia, and Ukraine have been consumed by war. With how divided our world currently is I imagine that would be the end of nuclear non-proliferation, especially if Russia has neo-feudalism like you said.
Nato was super cringe. Actually it was fatally cringe. I can understand your point on what they were trying to say but when you did it like Nato it kills the entire message.
It’s cringe because NATO is responsible for smashing the two powers together. It’s hard to be the geopolitical force behind the conflict and then to earnestly claim your puppet has heroic purpose. It’s transparently fake.
Nah, no thanks. I don't see how I or the USA should be involved in a territorial dispute in Europe. Maybe the Europeans should do something about that.
Considering the US is the root cause of the conflict, I’d say at this point we have a responsibility to diplomatically resolve it. And THEN stay the hell out of Europe.
@@xenophon5354 Wait wait wait. I never voted on the CIA influencing Ukraine politics. What we SHOULD do is dismantle our rouge Alphabet agencies that KEEP creating messes like this.
NATO expanded because these states joined NATO out of fear of Russia. And as you saw with the Russian invasions of Ukraine, Chechnya and Georgia, this fear was justified. In addition, NATO is not a threat to Russia because it is a defensive alliance and as long as Russia does not attack first, Russia has nothing to fear.
"Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities." --- George Washington
@@Saloman4ik The quote isn't a joke; the people that lead us now are not real Americans. If they are ever removed from power we can become a truly great country again. We could hit reset and go back to 1896 if we had the will to do so
Its like hearing music ringing from Meneltarma to hear someone say, "I hate what the Russians are doing, but I do not hate them as a people." The Silmarilion reference was tongue and cheek but also accurate to my feelings. I do want to point out that globablization isn't automatically bad if we use myth logic (which is a terrible idea a lot of the time tbh). The War of the Ring was a global effort that crossed species barriers. But the example of Putin is a great example of why we shouldn't let myths and movies move people without critical thinking.
This reminds me of the auto industry. At first, sports cars and muscle cars were marketed towards young people. Those young people were inspired by the marketing through commercials and media to own those cars and modify and upgrade them into their ideal visions of those cars, then get into positions of power in those companies, and escalate the level of performance even more in the next generation. Look at Toyota. Toyota was a boring car company (note WAS) then Akio Toyoda came to become CEO and he was inspired by old Japanese racing legends and sought to pour that inspiration into modern Toyotas which gave us the Toyota GR86, Supra and GR Corolla/Yaris. Now every single Toyota has a bit of sport in them. The Camry is a 300hp budget sports sedan, the Tacoma has incredible offroad specific prowess, the Prius actually looks damn good now, and even the boring af CH-R crossover SUV went racing on the nurburgring. All because a young man was influenced by marketing and put that passion into the company and made it a reality.
17:40 He's also a scientist. That's wild. As for the Russians identifying with Mordor, they seem to gravitate towards dark and cynical media and characters in my experience on the web.
You should watch a documentary called “Ukraine on Fire.” It’s free on UA-cam and provides insight into recent political& social tensions between Russia and Ukraine.
I don't think he has any interest in doing his homework before becoming a self-parody and blind hypocrite with videos like this. The documentary is years old now, was published long before he made this video.
I wanted to love this video, but I felt uneasy with it. There is a lot of context missing from it, which makes sense. War is war, and each side will use whatever the means to make their stake the right choice. It's impossible for anyone to truly decipher the truth from lies, only percept what seems true. I see both sides in the wrong with other countries interfering with the same wrong ideas. That how I percecpt it and its my best option. Help the people, not the warmongers.
Say what you will about the US, but Ukraine did nothing to Russia. If Russia has issues with the US then they should attack them, not Ukraine. There never was a good reason to attack Ukraine. When you are being invaded (and didn't invade anyone), then you are likely an innocent party and your invaders the guilty party.
@Poglavnik Joe Bidenović Lol, Ukraine slaughters "it's own people" who legally voted to leave Ukraine after the West-backed coup in 2014 but the Ukrainians wouldn't let them? Gee, context changed quick there, didn't it?
@Poglavnik Joe Bidenović these people are clowns and I'm not surprised they're all over this channel virtue signaling their "everyone is wrong so nothing should be done" stance
Yeah, it pisses me off that the World of Darkness subreddits called me the worst person ever when I came up with the idea for a Werewolf: The Apocalypse story set in The War in Ukraine.
It took me a while to come to term with it. Our modern media, nowadays, is so determined to make everything feel real, and gray. Sure, there are no blacks nor whites, but in the end, there are people, and some is just unlucky. Sometime the only ways to help them is to live, and continues telling the story of their lives, and protect the stories of those who fought you, and those who sacrifice for you, and better the society. Sometime, fighting for what you believe in, not for what you hate is the best thing, men could ever achieve.
Please don't tell me that you too believe that "history repeats" in the sense that there are cycles that repeat every few decades. I kinda got this vibe from this video.
Hi, thank you for your work. I have a question, where do you place the (neo nazi) azov bataillon fighting for Ukraine and killing massively people in dombass, only because they are russian speakers? I can't find any of those in Gondor or Rohan? thank you for your reply, take care
thank you for your comment. I file that under WAGNER as in its founder has SS tattoos and called it Wagner for a reason. In all seriousness, the horror of that situation had better solutions such as a UN Peacekeeping unit and investigation. Russia is part of the security council. It could have arranged that and watched it closely. Such horrors are themselves part of a cycle of violence one that Putin just made a whole lot worse.
@@PilgrimsPass Putin was wrong to attack, it was against the international law and many suffer for it, but i'm french and my former president Hollande said (and Angela Merkel as well) that they signed the Minsk 2 treaty with Putin just to give time for Ukraine to arm itself, and if we look at the NATO bases in the world, and the Russian bases in the world, we can see that russia was completely surrounded, therefor i ask myself sometimes if we are not also aggresive? anyway, i salute your courage to went to the war zone to help pleople in hopitals
@@broctheil4744 You have NATO bases on the west (of russia) in most europeans countries, in the south, there are NATO bases in Turkey, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the East, in Japan and Corea ... How would the USA feel if Russia had bases in Canada, Mexico and the Island around? During the Cuba crisis, didn't the US threatens for war for the soviet forces came to close?
Myth is a word that in modern times has been tarnished. If something is called a myth is not a compliment at all. I am glad some people still sees it as what it is : a glance of fundamental trues of human nature through fiction.
Myth in popular usage just means a fake story.
But it can also mean a sacred story, and I love that
Because it isnt something positive, a myth is a degenerated symbol
Humans learned from stories, not from systems. And to teach it as if it is the maxim of reality, is the cruelest you can easily fall in.
if you think that Myth is fiction than you also dont understand it
There is something called „foundation myth” - memory, or version of memory, that binds the society and creates common ground. We often forget about that in our individualistic society, but what is happening at the Ukraine is formation of such a myth. We are so often so ashamed by such symbolism, that we only find comparable figures in fables and movies.
Note, that Russians are heavily rely on similar myth - Great Patriotic War that they imagine to fight over and over again. Irony...
Even back in WW2 people doing actual fighting often referenced mundane popular culture. My favourite example is how no less than 216 different American military units had Donald Duck on their insignia.
I understand that, but when it’s done today I find it cringeworthy. Is it just me or is there something to it?
The ruptured duck
@@crusader2112 the way it is done is cringe. Like back then it had more gravitas and even subtlety to it. Nowadays with the advent of the internet there are people who are more aware of propaganda and the people makes these speeches are trying find more desperate references for the younger generations to rally.
@@toledochristianmatthew9919 Very true.
@@toledochristianmatthew9919 in Japan they use anime characters to try to get people in Japan to enlist into the military or donate blood, we here in the west find it cringe (I personally find it hilarious) but if it works it works
That Dune is mentioned here is a bit funny and worrying for me. Its theme beneath the surface is that you NEVER should trust a charismatic leader. The Harkonnen are absolutly corrupt in almost every sense but our heros are cautionary tales too!(In the end they choose two paths. One of personal gain, to the cost of Billions of other people lives. Or an "enlightened" path under ones iron fist that may have positive universal gain in the far future but is even more bloody and suffucating than the first "option"
This is the main reason i criticised NATO's post. They clearly saw only the movie where Paul had no doubts about the path he need to choose. Paul's victory meant galactic Jihad and billions of deaths in the galaxy. When i mocked one of my country's politician for brainless retweet of the NATO tweet i was called supporter of Russia. It's important to know your myths,
@@PanKimin its necessary sacrifice, u know how we say in europe? The road to Hell is paved with good intentions" but what you propose is far worse. Ignore the problem altogether in hope it disappear. You are Fashist, because you are on an intruder side like in 1939. "why die for danzig?'
take your +15 rubles.
Dune is also a colonial war over the Oil of that universe "spice" lest we forget with the freemen stuck in the middle. THE OIL MUST FLOW!
-rep furry
I remember replying on a comment on some video about the war in Ukraine that we should pray for both the Ukrainians and the Russians in this conflict. Then I kid you not someone effectively said “we don’t do that here.” It seems there are some if not many Christians out there who would only pray for those they support (Ukraine), which even if we all agree that Russia is a persecutor, it’s so easy to forget we are commanded to pray for our persecutors.
I'm pro-russia and I pray for both. They are the same people with the same religion. This is a political war.
They're not forgetting, they're just fake.
Also, not every Russian soldier is fully culpable for his country's actions.
@@fullm3taljacket I'm with you there, man.
Biden and Putin are asshats. Fuck em. The common soldier and civilian? I weep for them. Dragged into a bullshit war.
I remember the story chirstmas miracle of 1915, where allies and Germany met each other in no man land and play football or as American know it soccer. In the mist of the worst place you can be in a war, there was one moment of human kindness existed against the tide of hate towards fellow neighbors.
Sadly there leaders were worried the war would end when that happened
Not just any Allies, the English specifically. The Christmas Truce could have ONLY happened between the English and Germans. At the beginning of the war both sides had a sentiment that they shouldn’t be fighting each other. This would never have happened between the French and Germans.
1914, by 1915 measures had already been put in place to stop a recurrence of spontaneous truces.
These truces were the result of Marxist ideaology permeating the lower classes realizing they did not need to die for the petty power plays of the elites and if they threw off their overlords they could create a peaceful world together.
That must have been an amazing moment in humanity.
I have the theory that people get fucked up by wars in ancient time, then PTSD and other shenanigans made them write the proto classic stories. People get scared by their text, so they did some editing, then somehow, what we see is the heroic tales in which dying men can recite beautiful poems.
Fiction is how we deal with our problems. Sending echos into the roaring of crowds and expecting the echos return.
Heroic stories are a product of cultural values. A tribe needs warriors to maintain standard of living (through defense and conquest). This need leads leaders to glorify warriors with words and rewards. This glorification of warriors by leaders bleeds into culture. Ancient stories are products of cultural values meant to pass on those values. That is why "heroic" tales are so common.
I think if you read the Odiseey it's pretty much PTSD 101
We like to think ancient war was as traumatic as modern war but there really is very little evidence for that.
There is almost no evidence for PTSD pre-WW1. This is in my view likely because war was 90% marching and 10% war. Even that 10% can be broken down to little time actually spent fighting. It seems to me what changed with modern warfare is that a soldier is in close proximity to not only loud explosions etc, but the constant threat of death for extended periods of time. That kind of stress breaks the mind, where a handful of hours of fighting over a campaign season does not.
@@xenophon5354 I think it has something to do with the nature of modern weapons, explosions and gun shots are just more of a shock to the nervous system and harder for the mind to comprehend than spears and arrows
I’m happy to know your safe Pilgrim. I don’t know what to think of this war anymore, it feels every day that another truth about the war it’s buried beneath a million lies about it.
My prayers go with you brother. Please be safe.
I couldn't say it better myself I just want the war to end and the killing to end
@@nothing-of5yc there has been peace talks since the beginning but the west keeps refusing and still send equipment and volunteers to die, if they really wanted the war to end they would have stopped sending shit and actually negotiate a peace treaty
It's very simple, one side is defending their homes and their land and their freedom, the other is invading and destroying people's homes and killing innocent civilians.
All the rest doesnt matter. One side is fighting for their freedom, the other is trying to conquer another people. It's as simple as that.
think it simple:
WHO invaded WHOM
@@nothing-of5yc keep up the good job, Tovarich!
Thank you very much for this video. I just graduated high school and I want to become a fantasy author, but I have been doubting whether or not such a career really contributes anything to the world. I don't pretend to be the next Tolkien, or the next anything, but I want to write something with meaning, something that will last. You have renewed my faith in the importance of stories, and I can't thank you enough for that.
what type of fantasy mate?
@@djcoopes7569 I write high fantasy, and I guess you could call it YA since the main characters are all age twenty or below.
@@ambivertreader wanna get an outside opinion on a draft?
@@djcoopes7569 I would, and no offense, but I don't think it would be a good idea to give out my personal information like email to a random person on the internet - again, no offense.
Fantasy in Particular can be lifechanging.
I read the Stormlightarchive and the first 3 parts changed my life
Every one of your videos always manages to send my mind reeling, followed by a period of deep contemplation. This one is no different. Thank you for your service and keep up the good work!
Same!
Another great video im not a fan of a lot of the politics surrounding this war but i have a lot of respect and love for the common foot soldier fighting to protect his back yard
Yep, I respect Donbass militias. Ukraine is the one killing them, have been trying to take their lands and destroy them. I have no respect for people fighting for the Bandera ideology, for the current regime. They are just making money for the military industrial complex running things by pulling the strings of the puppets running the regime.
this topic about stories inspiring real events has fascinated me for sometime now, and thinking about it further made me realize that Jose Rizal's Noli Me Tangere and El Filibusterismo novels inspired my country men a hundred years ago to further revolt agaisnt the spaniards after his death.
although Rizal was much more of a pacifist, his books (intended or not) pushed the filipino people into rebellion
Don't Forget Bonifacio. Rizal became a Better Symbol after his death.
The funny thing is that he never wanted a revolt, only for Spain to recognize the country within its court. When he was arrested, he was going to Cuba to help with the casulaties of the war that happened there.
Who knows if the story is true to the condition of most Filipinos at the time, or it's just the views of the illustrados at the time being justified in his novels? Maybe it's somewhere in-between. One thing was certain: all that happened in the foundation of the First Republic after that was founded under blood and corruption to acheive a greater good on the surface while casting aside what is sacred to an extent, a pattern that's still today present in Philippine politics.
@@mmyr8ado.360 Amen
From my nihilistic perspective I have always had trouble finding hope in times like this.
Always thought that wars were the business of a few glory-hungry leaders and geopolitical interests, and that what makes peace impossible is our imperfect and selfish nature that will only be solved when genetic engineering advances enough to format our brains into perfect specimens or if it's not possible let it all burn in nuclear hell for all I care.
The truth is that I had not seen it as this happened in this positive way and find a heroic way out of all this.
I will try to live this message, despite how difficult it is to have hopeful and kind toughts.
God Bless and I'll pray for you. Nihilism isn't fun, I know that from experience, but know that you are loved nevertheless.
Perhaps the reason there are wars and power hungry leaders in the first place is how things are.
Unaccountable people in high places with great power makes madmen. Think about the percentage of our leaders (or CEOs or whatever) that are pedos vs the percentage of pedos in the total population. Chances are the percentage for the leaders/CEOs is higher.
Power and unaccountability allows you to do so many things with little consequence, no matter how nasty.
It is not enough for a change in our hearts, we need a change in the very system and structure of society.
I hope we never engineer away our failings as Man. It is part of our nature for a reason. Today's weakness can be tomorrow's strength.
@@beardedraven7285 Incredbly sane.
@@beardedraven7285 Darwinistic competition among nations is very positive. And constant conflict keeps a man real and connected to reality
Thank you for making this video.
I've had a lifelong fascination with the Arthurian legends for exactly this reason. The single greatest hero tale ever told. Yes, i say tale, though in fact i think it irrelevant wether Arthur ever existed. After more than a thousand years of retelling his stories we have made him real and he is now a fundamental part of our life story. His story is alive in us today and is a foundation stone in most every aspect of our modern culture.
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦.
Didn't know you volunteered there, mate. Cheers.
I admit, in my university studies of history and geopolitics, I feel that I have become more cynical, but I always try to remember that human beings are capable of great good, and the bad guys of history have lost before. God bless you for you good deeds in Ukraine, and I pray for the future
Huns cross the Tanais and it takes a military alliance of a decadent empire and barbarian horse-lords to put an end to their razing spree, culminating in the battle on the Catalaunian Plains, death of the Hun witch-king (by a female hand as legend has it), and collapse of the invading force.
Said events massively influence European folk memory, manifesting in countless legends such as the Norse ‘Battle of the Goths and the Huns’ or the German Rhine Gold cycle.
The imagery of this tradition remains powerful enough for the word ‘Huns’ to be thrown around in the context of a World War as an archetypal bloodthirsty, faceless, questionably-human menace.
A British World War survivor mythologises his personal experience as well as the contemporary political situation on the continent, evoking millennia-old imagery but weaving it into a more streamlined and easy-to-access narravite than the fragmented ancient tradition no one cares to read anymore.
The menace in the East strikes again. Those on the frontlines use the Brit’s novel terminology to describe the situation.
Meanwhile the core of the narrative in the Brit’s new mythology remains unchanged since Late Antiquity and refers to an eerily similar situation that arose on the same very soil where it’s happening today. Full circle.
Just my 2 cents here, but I feel like a lot of people of misunderstanding the point of this video. It’s not a declaration for either Ukraines or Russias governments. It’s simply just a video examining how literature has been used to create an over arching national narrative, that allows its side to appear as the “good guys”. Though as an aside, if you blindly follow and support either Ukraines or Russias governments you probably got some brain rot you should get looked at, there’s bad actors on both sides, especially the higher you look, but go figure, it’s war, but it’s important to remember that governments can often not represent its people correctly, rather represent what’ll get the most from other world governments, so it’s important not to dehumanize a nations people.
This all might be a shit take but idk
But always remember “it’s only Kool if the people I like do it”
Eh, there is merit to this in theory but there's some flaws in assuming that this is a case of 'bad people on both sides'.
Mainly that that particular narrative is a result of the approach russian propaganda takes where they will tell as many lies as possible (mass shelling of donbass civilians when most of the relatively few civilian deaths were the result of landmines, bio weapons labs, nazis being elected en masse, etc) in order to try and muddy the waters since it takes way longer to counter them than it does to spew more lies.
Nevermind that they're basically speed running all the dumb shit the nazis did, from the constant infighting between its leaders that is fucking over their war effort, to the deluded 'great leader' at the head of this mess preferring loyalty to people who know what they're doing , to wasting resources on the mass kidnapping of civilians.
Like yeah presumably there's the usual eastern european corruption and whatnot in ukraine, but let's not pretend its comparable to the country literally locking people up for thought crimes.
@@jeromeace1282 people like you are the reason I more or less support using strategic nuclear weapons. Because amount of mouthbreathing propaganda enjoyers such as yourself among your populations is way too high. Thankfully you're reaching the point of your governments just printing money to make everyone rich, so it's not even gonna be needed.
Well, I think it's really lame then. Certain amounts of truth? Absolutely, but a lame, pseudo-intellectual take. Apart from that, he specifically backs only Ukraine and only went out of his way to see it from that POV. His nearly parting line was "cuz they're better than THOSE PEOPLE". Bruh...
@@fullm3taljacket Well yeah…the Ukrainian people are better than the Russian government, heck, odds are they’re better than their own government…just like the Russians in the 40s or during the napoleonic invasion. Plus he’s speaking from experience, or course it’s gonna be a one sided perspective, what he saw was Ukrainian people being brave in the face of an invading army, an admirable quality in anyone. The shoe was on the other foot some 60 years ago.
I know this all makes me sound like a Ukrainian apologist, but (shocker) I don’t like the Ukrainian government, all my respect for it and Zelenskyy went out the window when he would not stop begging for more and more foreign aid, not to mention the Orthodox Christian prosecution currently happening in Ukraine at the hands for his government, no doubt propagated by warmongers and globohomos
Yes, but to leave out the role that the US/West has played in this conflict is really missing the mark widely.
When you mention argument about leaving Ukraine for chance of global peace that used to be popular (and still is here and there) I realised how perspective changes a lot. I'm Polish and here the vast majority of population couldn't even come to their minds that leaving Ukraine would resolve problem. It's not just the sympathy for Ukrainians, truth be told, there is difficult history between our nations, and there are many people that aren't so proukraine. I don't write that to challenge freindship between us, which florished since start of the war - at least one good thing that resulted from that tragedy. What I'm trying to say is that here, in eastern Europe, nations like Poland, Lithuania, Lativia, Estonia, Chechia, Slovakia, even Finland knew that Russians won't stop. That Ukraine was meant to be only a beginning in Russian conquest - we still remember 1920 and 1939. For distance countries like mentioned India or Brazil, assumption that's it only question of Donieck and Ługańsk, could sound reasonbly. But for eastern Europeans that survived soviet regime, or their children that heard about it and still faces its consequences, it was as clear as crystal that Putin want to remake USSR. And it's also clear for all of us, that we do everything to not let that happen. Also, it's not a reason to hate Russians. There is even old saying that Poles and Russians would be best friends if they don't live so close to each other- we have a lot in common (not only skill in drinking vodka). I wish to Ukrainian soldiers prevail, not Russians die - it's something that's required not wanted. I hope, just like you said, that they would change, they would want to be part of Europe, not our main antagonist. And maybe someday, we would be friends. But for now, at least Poles and Ukrainians became friends after long time of animosity. It turns out a friend in need is a friend indeed - and it worked in both sides
thank you bro. Russia is evil by-design. We can not be safe unless it is destroyed. And i rememeber well that we ended up occupied by Russia as a result of our war against Poland (Polish Crown at the time).
Remember Volyn? Remember the 60k?
Ukraine's leadership embraces stepan bandera who was the leader of the UPA. But I guess you can suck Zelensky's and Ukraine's dick
"new that Russians won't stop. That Ukraine was meant to be only a beginning in Russian conquest"
sums up entire Russian history. Russia is not attacking neighbors only when it gets weak due to complete and utter misery of the life they themselves create as a society
Well said and very pragmatic. Even with my surface level understanding of Polish history in WWII, I can understand why the Polish people would think like that. During WWII, Poland was ABANDONED. The Western Allies covered up Katyn because they needed the Soviet Support to efficiently defeat the Germans while minimizing their own losses. Meanwhile during the Warsaw uprising, the Soviets stopped instead of intervening for similar reasons. Of course modern Poland would not make the mistake of letting itself be at the mercy of other foreign powers with their own agendas and goals. Hence Poland's recent push to make its military stronger makes a lot of sense. Poland will decide its own destiny by its own hands and not depend on the whims of others. Sure many might consider Ukraine blessed by all the support it gets from the US and other powers but its obvious that the leaders of these countries care little about Ukrainians people themselves but rather only want to weaken Russia, their political competitor alongside other agendas.
Love from Bangladesh.
Just stumbled upon this vid and comments are something else. This one takes the cake as most delusional crap I’ve read in a long while.
Greetings from Ukraine, your videos are immensely insightful.
Love to know you’ve been doing grand and good things pilgrim! Stay safe n stay great
2:43 I just thought of the confusion of a Ukrainian soldier wearing the Jedi or rebellion symbol coming across a Russian soldier wearing the same Jedi or rebellion symbol for the same reason.
If they like and identify with Mordor, chances are the Ukrainians will run across a sith or storm trooper before encountering a Russian jedi.
@@Oceaan25you don't get what he was saying.
Both would believe they are the "good guys" and believe they are upholding the ideals of a shared fandom.
Russians have their side and both sides have their propaganda.
""Power isn't determined by your size, but the size of your heart and dreams!" -Monkey D. Luffy... Was another phrase that the ministry of defense posted online. Man I always thought that I was the strange one taking motivation from One Piece but, I guess even in matters of life and death people take inspiration in fantasy.
If fiction has taught me anything. There is nothing more powerful then a person with something to fight for.
I think the most powerful speech in LOTR is that of Faramir when speaking of the men of the East.
"The enemy? His sense of duty was no less than yours, I deem. You wonder what his name is... where he came from. And if he was really evil at heart. What lies or threats led him on this long march from home. If he would not rather have stayed there... in peace. War will make corpses of us all."
Putin may be Sauron, but the Russian people are no Orcs. They are human, same as the rest of us. And war will make corpses of us all.
You definitely have no idea what you are talking about - you can visit Ukraine, see what Russians are doing, and then you can revisit your opinion.
Russians are white, yes, they are humans to you.
THIS!!! Gosh people view putin as the "savior of normality" what a fucking joke. And yes, sauron has to be defeated, but its not like we shouldnt feel sorry for the brainwashed masses in russia.its not their fault they were born there.
Every war is costly but it also gives us human pride to talk about our ancestors who fought about
Всё можно изменить. Именно так на Украине предатель, который сражался на стороне нацистов, времён Второй Мировой Войны теперь Национальный Герой Украины
Ukraine now is the example of saying "For when I am weak, then I am strong". Thank you for your video
Ukraine is far from weak. They have the largest standing army in all of Europe, only losing to Russia. They also inherited a huge stockpile of Russia's Soviet Arms as the Donbass used to be the USSRs main hub of arms manufacturing. They made everything there, from Rockets, Helicopters to Tanks and Artillery.
Because of Western funding
Respect to You for helping Ukraine so directly. I live in Poland and there was some animosity and hatred between Us and Ukraine in the past, to say the least. Once a heart of Polish culture is now within Ukrainian borders, Lviv, or Lwów in Polish. Ukrainians to this day treat genocidal terrorists like Bandera as national heroes. But I hope this war, as horrible as it is could be a foundation for a friendship that shall lasts for centuries. This idea kind of eases the pain of the past atrocities. The idea that maybe We've grown enough to begin a new chapter.
Sometimes You need the greater threat to see that maybe we all are not so different. Kinda like Gimli and Legolas. :P
Yeah, Ukraine is full of actual Nazis, so, no, NATO and Ukraine are for sure the bad guys in this war.
If the Poles had their way we would get Fallout: Europe.
@@broctheil4744 Good to hear. Tiny minority of extremists here claim all Ukrainians are sleeper agents that worship Bandera that gona replace us Like they did in Lviv. But most Polish people stand together with Ukraine in their struggle and once the war is over I hope we can remain friends. :)
@Elizabeth Bennett glad you want your kids nuked, cuz I don't
@elizabethbennett3930 And there would have been a lot of beavers
This is whithout a doubt the 1st yt video that made me drop tears. By the love of God and all that there is beauties are beautiful and incredible creatures.
Dehumanizing the enemy in war is a psychological compartmentalization for the necessity of the situation; I could only imagine it being that much worse for a soldier on the defensive side.
Anyone who isn't a combat veteran needs to keep their negative criticisms of this mindset to themselves because it involves a number of experiences that you fundamentally cannot relate to.
Interesting how both sides see themselves as the underdog against the big evil empire.
Two things I know about war: it's hell, and it apparently never changes.
I think it's interesting how not sacred we as contemporary people view stories and a lot of our existence. I remember listening to someone who described the modern worldview as having "disenchanted" the world. It seems that a lot of sacredness and ritual was lost on our people.
I think the general consensus is that only the Z Russians are called Orks and anti Z Russians are not. Dehumanizing your enemy is frankly a needed coping mechanism for lots of combatants. Many people would go insane quite rapidly from focusing on the human lives they personally ended. By focusing on killing a tank your not focused on killing the crew. The same goes for fighter pilots. They focus on the enemy jet and pray for a parachute. That being said, I am obviously very pro Ukraine but I have never and will never call a Russian an Ork, soldier or civilian. I don't need to dehumanize them so I can kill them. Seeing non-Ukrainian people online calling them Orks does bother me. Ukrainians can call them whatever they like. That's a perk of being the one who's gotten invaded
Seriously pilgrim, you’re the best thing to happen to the video essay format since sliced bread.
Thank you for your service!
Sadly the only thing I know about this war is that latin american soldiers soldiers went there with promises of merc contracts, just to die without ever seeing the first payment, and on top of that there are videos on youtube of Ukrainians kicking the crap out of then for no good reason, enjoying racist slurs and getting used as cannon fodder considering most of the ukrainian were civilians dressed as military with no discipline, doctrine or experience.
Like Emerson said "Thy love afar is spite at home."
I am a seventh day Adventist. My church reached out to a church in Ukraine when the war started. We had video call with the pastor. They were talking refugees in the subway last time we spoke,we lost contact a few weeks.
I think that a major factor in referring to Russians as Orcs is that the Ukrainian people feel like hobbits, and can identify with the protagonists in The Lord of the Rings more than many nations might. Both Ukraine and the Shire are small, underestimated communities of farmers that the villain doesn't consider a threat and believes to be a mere pawn for his real enemies, but who, by sheer courage, can take him down. It doesn't hurt that Zelenskyy is himself short and round-faced.
We're the size of Texas or France, so "small" is a funny way of putting it. We're more like Gondor, bordering the orcs and all.
@@KitMikit Very good point. I was thinking in terms of being initially outnumbered and outgunned, but standing your ground anyway, which is a hobbity thing to do. When I think of courage in the face of daunting challenges, I think of hobbits.
But you're right, you have an ancient and well-developed culture, like Gondor, which should never be subordinated to those who despise that culture and wish to eradicate it.
I also think of theoretically stronger nations depending desperately on Ukraine to win this fight, just as Gondor and Rohan and Rivendell depended on hobbits to overthrow the Dark Lord--with their help, but foreign armament and support can't take the place of the courage of those who actually deal with Sauron on the front line.
Ukraine is far from weak and small lol. They have the largest standing army in all of Europe and land mass, only losing to Russia in both. They also inherited a huge stockpile of Russia's Soviet Arms as the Donbass used to be the USSRs main hub of arms manufacturing. They made everything there, from Rockets, Helicopters to Tanks and Artillery.
Ukraine is no pushover, if you were to put NATO in Russia's place. It would be the same result.
Their reasons for calling them orcs is also linked to their Nazi beliefs.
@@pilotmanpaulthat's what shocks me about peoples interpretation of the military side of this conflict
People compare it to Iraq when Iraq had absolutely no air defense Worthy of the name Ukraine had the best air defense in probably the world given how much S_300 systems they had them add all the stingers and the Patriots they received..... The degradation of their air defense by surovikin was a long game of chess
Also one has to consider the impact of the entirety of NATO providing intelligence and "consultants" (you know like in Vietnam 😂😂)
Mercs 150billions$ in weapons
How the F*ck can anyone compare Ukraine to Iraq ???
Another great video essay! You gave me much to think about, as usual 🙏
I don't know what to say. Just wow.
Great video. Thank you for help and support.
Being a right-winger, recording in English and supporting Ukraine? Boldly. And I love it
You'd be surprised how many people on the right actually do want to metaphorically punch Russia in the face by supporting the Ukrainians this is like a 1980s fantasy turned reality to them
Glad everyone wants to have their kids nuked for the CIA
A lot of vadniks are leftists tho
What's bold about it, tbh?
@@vitaliitomas8121 because putting our this video might cost him a chuck of his audience as quite a few of them support Russia
This is honestly one of the best things I have ever seen on UA-cam. Full Stop.
To support Ukraine because every other alternative is a net negative for the world is a good point.
As an American, I find it ridiculous we send money over to Ukraine at levels that go above what our politicians say and when we have our own problems that need that money. We are also in a lot of debt.
That being said, the point you make is the most rational and I do think we should support, it is simply a matter of how much given who the US is and our needs.
Poland, where my family comes from, is in such a situation that if Russia is not stopped then Poland is next. The rhetoric and actions from Russia are already there.
I appreciate you sharing your experience and the heroic acts of the common people.
thank you my friend. I understand that perspective. there's also the point however, that the US Government taxes people internationally, including myself since international youtubers are taxed by the US Government. Only we don't get representation. So in this case at least, I like that my tax dollars are going to an international cause that also affects me. Being a EU citizen.
@@PilgrimsPass Thank you for responding.
Just to clarify, It isn't that we are giving money but the amount.
If we flaunt too much it becomes a pseudo-war scenario making Russia more justified in one upping towards nuclear and direct confrontation with us.
The other side is that we continue to go into debt and have serious problems here that should get some of that money.
As you stated, I agree it is best to support given you don't want the status quo to change.
@@ModernPapistoh please. So Russia let's Ukraine join NATO And they break minsk accords, maidan coup happens in finances backed by US to put banderites Nazis in power who hates Russians and been killing 15k civilians in Donetsk region and you still want to support Ukraine?
@@ModernPapistwho invaded middle east and Africa raping for resources? It WASN'T RUSSIA but NATO. Who has 800 bases around the world? uSA. Remember that.
well, if you look at the russian casualties, and the amount spent on ukraine, this is the best investment the US ever made. They are giving a fraction of the US military budget to ukraine, and they fuck up the second best military in the world. If anything, the US needs to keep that money tap flowing (with greater restiction on what it is spent on, because ukraine is one really corrupt country, and thats a fair criticism), and even though the amounts spent on ukies seem to be sky high, but the US government has so much money, like... just compare the aid with the military expenditure. Which is like... 5-6% of the government expenditure?
Thank you for kind words
Very interesting points about grand narratives between large groups of people like nations, corporations, and other large institutions around the world. Even in this present state of the world, where world economy is not great and tension between nations are high. Hope that whether happens in Ukraine in the future will not affect their fighting spirits for independence and prosperity.
Gołkowski, wrote "Sybirpunk" even before the invasion. It is Cyberpunk but about Russia. It is ruled by a bimortal president - Cyborg. Oligarchy flourishes and Russia closed after the "Second Crimean War". After the invasion, the author said he was surprised himself. He did not think that the Russians would attack Kiev. His puki what fiction turned out to be more true than his analysis.
This is the most level head content on the war that I had seen on the internet, everything is so black and white, the good and the baddies, that is just blatantly stupid or cringe. Great video I had my doubts at the beginning, good thing I gave you the chance and you did not dissapoint me.
В начале Вы говорите, что всё это глупо, так как тут всё разделено на чёрное или белое, а потом: "Нееет, всё тут нормально, я ошибался". Я не понимаю, откуда такой вывод
Thank you so much
Always a good day when Pilgrim has a new video.
In 43' my grampa 6 yrs old forgot his gas mask at school during an air raid in Scotland. It took him 30 min to run back to the school and back to the shelter. Good news is that nothing dropped on Scotland that day
Hey Pilgrims pass, ByzCath from VaBeach. Please pray for Fr Ivan Levytsky and Fr Bohdan Heleta, two Ukrainian Greek Catholic priests in Russian captivity. There are more, orthodox, who have been turned into Matyrs. ☦️
If i may ask what did you do at the hospital im a physician and im curious what you as a humanities student did
Cleaned the equipment, helped care for the patients, helped sort out hospital masks. things like that.
@@PilgrimsPass
I see
Interesting I hope my colleagues cope well thanks for helping them out lad
Love this. LoTR been one of my favorite books since my dad read it to me when I was little. And I had never thought of it, but it totally is the great Anglo/West epic.
One point of disagreement: One of the things that makes The West so special, is that anyone, from anywhere in the world can leave their old life behind, embrace liberal values, and make a home for themselves amongst the Free Peoples.
Really?
I wanna leave West, because lberal values now includes dissolution of families, hate to males, end of paternty and eradication of natives.
Ukrain is replacing a devil by another.
Поэтому там так много бездомных и мигрантов. И бездомных мигрантов
Mate, you truly made a phenomenal video, which is about so much more than "Ukraine good" and "Russia bad". Yet, I immediately knew once I saw the title that the comment section is going to be as toxic as humans can possibly make it, but don't let that discourage you.
The Distributist has a video similar in the way that fiction reflects distilled truths of reality, 40 lessons from Warhammer 40K
I love this channel and analysis. I disagree with who is actually playing the role of the Empire and Freedom fighters but I’m glad that you’re not just falling in lock step with what you “should” be believing. Great content.
Like the Russian separatists who don't want to be a part of Ukraine with Ukraine forcing them to be.
I highly doubt playing invader means you are the rebel while also initially having the Advantage over your foe according to analysts.
If you view it as USA and NATO vs Russia, does your calculation change?
@@arnowisp6244 So we're here pretending there isn't 1000 years (or even 9 years) of history here?
@@fullm3taljacket The Russian Push in Crimea?
Using the USS Enterprise theme for the Ukranian strugle for freedom is absolute perfection. A heroic ship whos crew lost so many of her friends, comrades and sisters, saw the brutality of what the Japanese Empire did, took critical damage time and time again only to come back and continue the fight no matter the odds placed against her. She never backed down and continued to fight for freedom.
I heard an account of Ukrainian soldiers, a mix of Orthodox, Catholic, & Protestants taking the Eucharist together before going into battle. I know there are theological issues with this, but I could not help being moved by it.
I like Ukrainians, I know what you mean by hospitality, but also human connection 1 on 1, also gratitude they have expressed knowing that I am Pole, also because Poland helped them a lot. You have a brand new perspective, devoid of the historical context, or neighbor to neighbor brutality. What you observe now is an underdog story, that did absolutely nothing wrong, and defend their own motherland against brutal attacker. We helped an underdog - Ukraine in numerous ways, but will not receive an apologize for Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia... massacre done mainly on civilians in most brutal way, done with farming equipment, axes, and knifes, in a most brutal manner. Women - eve pregnant, children, old people everyone. Whole villages, tens of thousands of people were erased. The year that Ukraine was attacked was a year of OUN UPA - nationalist army of Ukraine that plotted and executed the massacre. We have not received an apology regarding this, and despite the fact that I like Ukrainians in their individuality, in person to person relationship, and I feel sympathy to those who were hurt in the current conflict - I don't trust them in the mob, I don't trust their leadership, and their heroes who were murderous bastards.
There are similar stories against soviet Russians, raping and pillaging Poland during their "liberation" effort, and I like Russians, I really do. Mentality of Russian, and Ukrainian people are very close, they are of the same civilizational mold. They are warm, but I don't trust them in their mob. I wouldn't want to be on their bad side, because there is no atrocity that is out of the question from their side once right buttons are pushed.
You are forgetting about Pacification and Polonisation of Galicia, my man. Don't play an innocent angel here.
While I do agree that there should be an apology, it should be from both sides of the story.
@@vitaliitomas8121 Are you seriously using Pacification of Galicia as the worst case in your book, and compare it to massacres in Volhynia, Malopolska Wschodnia, that altogether brings death toll of 100 (lovest estimate) -130 k people, mostly civilians, killed in the most gruesome, gore way, and burned in churches.
Please, everyone, be my guests, research the two, see for yourself the magnitude of difference. Be my guest to investigate historical background of the mentioned pacification. Another disconnection: Police forces that participated in Galician Pacification are not proclaimed as "Polish heroes" (they followed orders, their acts were not at all heroical, we have way better heroes already in Polish history), but people directly responsible for Volhynian Massacre are national heroes of Ukraine, Stepan Bandera is a father of your nation. The year that Ukraine was attacked was a year of OUN UPA, but our leaders when someone spit in their face pretend that it's raining.
Let me put this into some perspective, you silly-Billy... your country was assaulted, right? You are looking for allies, right? It would be a nice think to allow for exhumation of Polish-nationals, admit atrocities, and say "sorry", without playing this stupid game. You have a lifetime opportunity to at last get real heroes, reject monsters, allow for Christian burial of Polish skeletons that you have in your closet.
@@drwalmgc Let them have their heroes, man, for now. They are key for warsupport and both military and civilian morale. After the war they'll have enough political capital to try to reform. As of right now, more important is stopping the impending red wave in it's tracks rather then feuding over who killed more of whom, or the war will come to us.
Are you willing to sacrifice yourself for those thieves sitting in Sejm, arguing over who stole more?
Let them have their heroes, for now. Once the dust settles, we'll see if we had made true friends or just a new allies.
@@arturzakacz6066 You are intellectual analphabet. Let Germans have their own heroes too, why there is such a hate towards nazis... they send supplies to Ukraine, let them have their heroes. I think this is 1 to 1 what you have just stated... forget about their Bundestag, or crooked politicians of Israel, let Germans have their heroes. They will surely respect us in the future, if we also support the same cause, or if we buy high technology from them, and kill our own industries. This is a ground for best buddies relationship - ever.
Ну конечно же солдаты СССР(ну и конечно же именно русские) насиловали и зверствовали во время освобождения Польши. Конечно же нацисты из германии заботились о Польше лучше, чем СССР. Скорее всего не нужно было "освобождать" Польшу, ведь там сидели добрые фашисты
The Jungian Persona prepares us for Civilization. The Jungian Shadow prepares us for War.
Gotta say, i have no idea why i even bother reading yt comments on the topic of this invasion as they pretty much end up being the same. Anyway, cool video as always, Pilgrim. I pray to the Lord this suffering ends soon.
I can't say how much I got inspired by your video. I'm a brazilian just like you, stil living in our country, but I enjoyed a lot watching videos of Peterson and Jung's teachings (I'm a psychology student myself). I've also been thinking on living my personal myth, and this video gave me a lot of insights on it. This is it, Pilgrim Pass! This is the personal myth, you should read more about this.
When you think about it, mythes and fictions are always inspired by real world events, which makes them easy to identify to in future real world events.
All those stories that were inspired by either the first, second or both world wars can now be used to talk about the war in Ukrain to a lesser extent, both in the politics, discourses and tactics employed on the field. But also for the heroic stands, pushes and offensives, the victories and defeats, ... all of these can be found in works of fiction. And I am sure that this war will also end up inspiring new works of fiction and tales of heroism that will then be used to describe future conflicts, and inspire future works of fiction
I suppose the real problem with this isnt people identifying with the Heros of stroies. It's carelessly using these stories to define your enemies as less than human.
The obvious counterargument to your whole point is the South Park episode where Reality crashes the fundraiser party all the celebrities are having. Myths are nice to indulge in once in a while, but the whole point of a myth is that you can visit but can't stay.
I guess this proves we all need heroes to inspire us to inspire us to success and give us direction.
Man, thank you so much for this video. I'm from Ukraine myself and I've been watching your videos since last autumn. Needless to say, I was impressed that you were volunteering in my country. I may not agree with some details about the lack of hatred towards rusians, because as a Ukrainian I have my own experience, but I got goosebumps from watching it, for real! Huge respect to you. The world must know who is on the side of Evil and who is on the side of Good. Light will overcome Darkness. Slava Ukraini!
Beautiful video, simply womderful.
You made a great video, respect.
why does young vladimir putin look like the kid from home alone
That montage at 6:10 gave me chills..proved your point to me just with that 😂
Именно так и задуряют голову глупцам - влияют на их эмоции, показывая вещи, которые они даже не понимают
@@fred_krueger55just like how Russians don’t even understand their own war.
Dude, I respected you for your interesting and knowledgeable analyses of fiction but now I think I love you for going where most people are running away from.
LOL, no, he is walking the sheeple path, pretending to understand fairytale propaganda so that he can deny he is buying into it. He should really stay with fiction, because obviously that's his strength.
And here us Americans are being Mandalorians... some of us are being well meaning but idiotic new Mandalorians, others are trying to be the War Mongers of our past, and yet still others want to get ourselves prepared for what may happen to us.
So... some of you are preparing for your destruction by the Republic forces?
I do not hide. I admire you. Look after yourself.
Pilgrim has my sincere respect for volunteering in Ukraine during a time of war. This was a brave act of pure compassion.
Neverthelless I do think that he was too biased in this video. He forgot (?) that from the perspective of millions of people, Russian and non-russians, Putin is the heroic king who fights against the ever expanding evil empire of USA and it's modern anti-cutural influence on the world. This view is of course naive just like it is naive to idolize Zelensky. Contemporary geopolitical reality is simply much more complicated than mythological stories like Harry Potter where the distinction of evil and good is sharp and clear. This is the main reason why the Nato post and the comparison of the invasion of Russia to Ukraine with the invasion of Saruman to Rohan are cringe.
If I were to choose of a mythological epic as a metaphorical parallel to the crisis in Ukraine, I would choose Homer's Ilad. Two forces clashing with extreme violence against each other, both showcasing moments of unust cruelty and malice but also moments of honour and compassionate kindness, and both having their own unyielding reasons to continue to fight with heroism until the bitter end.
That Propaganda from Russia. There were literal Millions of Men fleeing Russia when Putin put a Limited Draft on. There were Protest Putin crushed. Putin is no Heroic King.
@@arnowisp6244 Literally not true. Many left, not millions, and odds are pretty good they wouldn't have gotten called up, if they did they wouldn't qualify, and if they did qualify, they would have made it clear that Russia wouldn't want them out there fighting either. Russia is a better place without them. and yes every protest should be "heard"...except no. 80% of Russians support the SMO.
@@fullm3taljacket Right. From the Mouth of the Regime that silences dissent.
@@arnowisp6244 Where are you from, because America and Ukraine do the same. Just because westerners like the idea of freedom for freedom's sake, not everyone sees that way. The West doesn't understand this concept. And I'm American by the way, so calling me the mouth of the regime is just a bit outside of reality.
@@fullm3taljacket a couple of things. First off, about half a million people left Russia in Autumn, with several hundred thousand leaving in Spring. The total is close to a million. A very significant percentage of these are fighting age males. There is no doubt some of them would have been called up.
Secondly, the 80% support for the war is a myth, and is a wilful misinterpretation of sketchy data. I´ve looked into this in some depth. What that is telling you is that one in five Russians detests the war enough that they are ready to openly defy the regime. Only around a third of people in Russia support the war to the point where they consider it acceptable that they themselves, or a close friend or loved one, take part in the war. This number is pretty consistent in Russian, Ukrainian and Western polling data. The majority of the Russian population could best be described as non-commital and fatalistic.
Zelensky having been an actor who played the President of Ukraine before becoming President of Ukraine is both one of the coolest and cringiest things I have heard.
Putin identifying with a spy from a movie he saw as a kid makes sense and fits nice with my theory that Putin thinks of himself as the savior of modern Russia. However, it is clear he is not and I imagine the real savior, if there was one, is either living a middleclass life in Canada or the US after there parents emigrated there in the 90s, or the savior was never born because their grandfather was shot during Stalin's purges.
I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I am worried the Ukraine War is just Act I in a larger New Russian Civil War and we will wake up some day and see that Belarus, Russia, and Ukraine have been consumed by war. With how divided our world currently is I imagine that would be the end of nuclear non-proliferation, especially if Russia has neo-feudalism like you said.
In Canada ir USA?
Such person won’t be russian.
@@adamnesicoyeah, that just sounds like white savior complex
Nato was super cringe. Actually it was fatally cringe. I can understand your point on what they were trying to say but when you did it like Nato it kills the entire message.
NATO itself is cringe.
It’s cringe because NATO is responsible for smashing the two powers together. It’s hard to be the geopolitical force behind the conflict and then to earnestly claim your puppet has heroic purpose. It’s transparently fake.
Nah, no thanks. I don't see how I or the USA should be involved in a territorial dispute in Europe. Maybe the Europeans should do something about that.
Considering the US is the root cause of the conflict, I’d say at this point we have a responsibility to diplomatically resolve it.
And THEN stay the hell out of Europe.
@@xenophon5354 Wait wait wait. I never voted on the CIA influencing Ukraine politics.
What we SHOULD do is dismantle our rouge Alphabet agencies that KEEP creating messes like this.
Ukrainian here. Thank you.
Nazi thank you for supporting degeneracy
"Putin invaded not because NATO being aggresive...", looks at the map and sees Russia surrounded by NATO military bases - yeah, right....
NATO expanded because these states joined NATO out of fear of Russia. And as you saw with the Russian invasions of Ukraine, Chechnya and Georgia, this fear was justified. In addition, NATO is not a threat to Russia because it is a defensive alliance and as long as Russia does not attack first, Russia has nothing to fear.
"Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities." --- George Washington
but then Capitalism happens and money started to flow after ww1. Quote is a joke.
@@Saloman4ik The quote isn't a joke; the people that lead us now are not real Americans. If they are ever removed from power we can become a truly great country again. We could hit reset and go back to 1896 if we had the will to do so
@@Saloman4ik It is but probably not for the reasons you'd think
Its like hearing music ringing from Meneltarma to hear someone say, "I hate what the Russians are doing, but I do not hate them as a people."
The Silmarilion reference was tongue and cheek but also accurate to my feelings.
I do want to point out that globablization isn't automatically bad if we use myth logic (which is a terrible idea a lot of the time tbh).
The War of the Ring was a global effort that crossed species barriers.
But the example of Putin is a great example of why we shouldn't let myths and movies move people without critical thinking.
This reminds me of the auto industry. At first, sports cars and muscle cars were marketed towards young people. Those young people were inspired by the marketing through commercials and media to own those cars and modify and upgrade them into their ideal visions of those cars, then get into positions of power in those companies, and escalate the level of performance even more in the next generation.
Look at Toyota. Toyota was a boring car company (note WAS) then Akio Toyoda came to become CEO and he was inspired by old Japanese racing legends and sought to pour that inspiration into modern Toyotas which gave us the Toyota GR86, Supra and GR Corolla/Yaris. Now every single Toyota has a bit of sport in them. The Camry is a 300hp budget sports sedan, the Tacoma has incredible offroad specific prowess, the Prius actually looks damn good now, and even the boring af CH-R crossover SUV went racing on the nurburgring. All because a young man was influenced by marketing and put that passion into the company and made it a reality.
17:40 He's also a scientist. That's wild.
As for the Russians identifying with Mordor, they seem to gravitate towards dark and cynical media and characters in my experience on the web.
Joseph Campbell, but already sent the video to multiple friends. Good video.
27:30 damn I did not expect to spontaneously cry within the turning of 8 seconds
You are not alone brother.
Nukes and World ending Sorcery. The most appropriate comparison.
Something to consider. The devil tells you exactly who he is by what he accuses others of.
That's a lot of tankies for one comment section sheesh
Thank you
this video is sponsored by Lockheed Martin /s
You should watch a documentary called “Ukraine on Fire.” It’s free on UA-cam and provides insight into recent political& social tensions between Russia and Ukraine.
I don't think he has any interest in doing his homework before becoming a self-parody and blind hypocrite with videos like this. The documentary is years old now, was published long before he made this video.
@@Dowlphin -rep brony.
@@gusfring8451 You shot an own goal there.
I wanted to love this video, but I felt uneasy with it. There is a lot of context missing from it, which makes sense. War is war, and each side will use whatever the means to make their stake the right choice. It's impossible for anyone to truly decipher the truth from lies, only percept what seems true.
I see both sides in the wrong with other countries interfering with the same wrong ideas. That how I percecpt it and its my best option. Help the people, not the warmongers.
Say what you will about the US, but Ukraine did nothing to Russia. If Russia has issues with the US then they should attack them, not Ukraine. There never was a good reason to attack Ukraine. When you are being invaded (and didn't invade anyone), then you are likely an innocent party and your invaders the guilty party.
@@RealLifeIronMan Ukraine exists. That’s enough for Russia to hate them.
@Poglavnik Joe Bidenović Lol, Ukraine slaughters "it's own people" who legally voted to leave Ukraine after the West-backed coup in 2014 but the Ukrainians wouldn't let them? Gee, context changed quick there, didn't it?
@Poglavnik Joe Bidenović these people are clowns and I'm not surprised they're all over this channel virtue signaling their "everyone is wrong so nothing should be done" stance
+15 Rubles
Yeah, it pisses me off that the World of Darkness subreddits called me the worst person ever when I came up with the idea for a Werewolf: The Apocalypse story set in The War in Ukraine.
That analogy makes no sense
Amazing dude, keep it up ❤
It took me a while to come to term with it. Our modern media, nowadays, is so determined to make everything feel real, and gray. Sure, there are no blacks nor whites, but in the end, there are people, and some is just unlucky. Sometime the only ways to help them is to live, and continues telling the story of their lives, and protect the stories of those who fought you, and those who sacrifice for you, and better the society.
Sometime, fighting for what you believe in, not for what you hate is the best thing, men could ever achieve.
Sometimes, fighting for what you believe in, is stupid.
Especially when your believes where influenced by USA through social media
Please don't tell me that you too believe that "history repeats" in the sense that there are cycles that repeat every few decades. I kinda got this vibe from this video.
Hi, thank you for your work. I have a question, where do you place the (neo nazi) azov bataillon fighting for Ukraine and killing massively people in dombass, only because they are russian speakers? I can't find any of those in Gondor or Rohan? thank you for your reply, take care
thank you for your comment. I file that under WAGNER as in its founder has SS tattoos and called it Wagner for a reason. In all seriousness, the horror of that situation had better solutions such as a UN Peacekeeping unit and investigation. Russia is part of the security council. It could have arranged that and watched it closely. Such horrors are themselves part of a cycle of violence one that Putin just made a whole lot worse.
@@PilgrimsPass Putin was wrong to attack, it was against the international law and many suffer for it, but i'm french and my former president Hollande said (and Angela Merkel as well) that they signed the Minsk 2 treaty with Putin just to give time for Ukraine to arm itself, and if we look at the NATO bases in the world, and the Russian bases in the world, we can see that russia was completely surrounded, therefor i ask myself sometimes if we are not also aggresive? anyway, i salute your courage to went to the war zone to help pleople in hopitals
@@broctheil4744 You have NATO bases on the west (of russia) in most europeans countries, in the south, there are NATO bases in Turkey, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the East, in Japan and Corea ... How would the USA feel if Russia had bases in Canada, Mexico and the Island around? During the Cuba crisis, didn't the US threatens for war for the soviet forces came to close?
@Poglavnik Joe Bidenović i cannot imagine people who are proud to be neo nazis, with nazi flags and signs, doing Gods work
@Poglavnik Joe Bidenović You know...I remember as a kid watching movies about killing nazis. Here you are celebrating them, Banderite.
Brilliant