The Birth of a Nation - Movie Review
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Chris Stuckmann reviews The Birth of a Nation, starring Nate Parker, Armie Hammer, Mark Boone Jr., Colman Domingo, Aunjanue Ellis, Dwight Henry, Aja Naomi King, Esther Scott, Roger Guenveur Smith, Gabrielle Union, Penelope Ann Miller, Jackie Earle Haley. Directed by Nate Parker.
The director was found innocent of all charges so do your research before you judge. Nobody had a problem with old slave movies but now that the slave is fighting back in a true story everyone's mad.
RICO MILLZ what are you even talking about
Smh at the mentally challenged people on youtube
Every slave movie made is by a white man and nobody says shit. Now that a black man made the movie of a slave that stood up for blacks now you all have a problem with it. That's why blacks can't forget slavery cuz the hate and racism from you is still here
Why are you quoting me?
RICO MILLZ Hahaha loser
Please people, don't read the comments! Lots of hatred in the comments section!
JONATHAN PINZON unfortunately
Shut up nerd
Oh for Real? You shut up!
JONATHAN PINZON I appreciate the warning, but I always scroll down anyway. Idk why😂
Magnolia Gem 😅
thank you Chris for literally being the only reviewer that didn't bring up Nate Parker's personal life. good review
He basically did, though.
+Hank Pym, it's an elephant in the room. You can address it briefly but then clarify that the art itself is what really matters in a critique. Not the artist. And Chris did that.
Boy Targaryen As someone who feels Parker got away with a crime and that he wasn't innocent, a film can stand on its own independent of its creators.
***** Yea but it still sucked tho. I feel like it will get nominated for an Oscar anyway because the academy LOVES movies about slavery. They yearn to the days when they owned people. They don't see black people as anything but slaves and that's why only black movies that get nominated for Oscars are the ones about slavery. Look it up.
Boy Targaryen Actually, Academy voters have been refusing to see The Birth of a Nation because of the rape controversy - a hypocritical position to take, considering Roman Polanski won an Oscar for The Pianist.
www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/birth-of-a-nation-movie-oscar-voters-ponder-nate-parker-922210
I really don't understand the appeal of putting an offensive statement without evidence in the comments section for the sole purpose of starting a war...
Christian King UA-cam 2016
Pussies. That's why.
Trolling: it's how the disgruntled and lonely get to feel like they matter, if only for a brief moment.
Christian King how do I watch this movie?
Spnr Panther the movie theaters
Holy shit this comment section is cancer. How do people not understand the concept of reviewing a movie based on its filmmaking and technical merit: NOT OUTSIDE FACTORS!
Seriously, the director and all its actors could all be cold blooded murders...That doesn't take away from the technical aspects and critique of a film!!!
It's like someone looking at some great sculpture and being in awe and then later learning the sculptor was a murderer. Yes the sculptor is a piece of terrible piece of shit but THAT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM THE MERIT OF THE SCULPTURE ITSELF!! How is this a hard concept to understand??
I agree. I don't recall even Woody Allen and Roman Polanski getting so much hate for any of their movies.
Are you kidding? W. Allen and R. Polanski are now getting a lot of hate. People didn't know too much about their allegations back in the day because it was pre-internet. Lena Dunham is getting a lot of hate as well. I'd say Charlie Sheen escaped the online hate despite being a wife beater prob. because he's a white guy.
As for N. Parker, he was acquitted. However, he said some homophobic shit so I'll be skipping this film. Though, you're right. This is a review and Chris just reviewed the technical aspect.
YOU HATE YOURSELF.ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK IN THE MIRROR .YOU HATE GOD TOO.REMINDS ME OF THAT MOVIE"ISLES" OF DOCTOR MONROE.YOUR THE "HYENA".YOU HATE YOUR OWN MOST.YOU LIVE A TOTAL LIE.YOU HATE YOUR OWN MOST OF ALL.YOUR A PRISONER OF YOUR OWN SOCIAL NETWORKING.
GR8 B8 M8 IR8 8/8
you got bullied alot in highschool didnt u
The misunderstanding people have is mistaking nat and his master as friends
Good review tho
Coleman Ward why would your friend order you to be whipped.
@@Zampan0 what?
Nat did a good job of interacting against his oppression I honor nat for standing against evil
A lot of white people dismiss racism not because they are racist, but because racism is very uncomfortable to talk about and it's easier just to sweep it under the rug
fuck off you're an idiot. you might say that LE doesn't specifically target black people but i saw an article recently that suggested by a study that whites were treated better in hospitals and blacks and Hispanics were found to have a greater 'pain tolerance' which is why opioids are given less to minorities as they are thought to be at greater risk for addiction. the only thing is your institutional racism has backfired and gotten many white suburban family's hooked and living like the inner city minorities have for years. when blacks abf Mexicans were heroin addicts they were lazy and stupid and now that whites are getting hit HARD by heroin and opiates addiction is suddenly a disease. The opiate epidemic would have been more equally spread if white doctors weren't racist.
" anti-racism is code for anti-white" LMFAO
Or maybe it's because none of us are racist and we are tired of being told we are?
agreeeeed
Will Strong Like White on White crime and White on people of color all around the world swept under the rug.
Race Baiting: The Movie
snowsandrivers blackfyrestorm I haven't seen the movie, but the way the trailers made things look as if things are just as bad as back then makes me angry. Sure there is isolate racism here and there, but for the most part the US is an extremely tolerant country. I am biased against the movie because of the trailer, but that doesn't make me a white supremacist.
Zayon Smith Dude, it's 2016. Get out of your time machine and live in reality
Only like 5% of the landowners in America owned slaves also please don't say white people when you mean white Americans
***** ...I mean...you guys kept millions of black people as chattel slaves and hung them from trees by the tens of thousands THEN you prevented them from socially, politically and economically integrating into mainstream society for another hundred years, horribly abused, killed and marginalized Natives Americans, worked Chinese immigrants nearly to death and banned them from getting jobs, kept Japanese-Americans in concentration camps, killed 200,000 Iraqi civilians, killed God only knows how many Vietnamese civilians.....
And when we point it out -- WE'RE the problem?
Right.
snowsandrivers blackfyrestorm I'm Latino but okay. Current day whites are responsible for their ancestors acts. Get the fuck out of here, you freakish goober
I've seen 12 Years a Slave at least three times. It's a modern masterpiece, partly because it's so gut-wrenching.
Brace yourselves, "you're racist for hating this movie" comments are coming...
Spinlok literally ur the only one saying it. stop trying to bait likes
Spinlok no ones saying that lol
Roy Senpai's Fan Club I said they were coming, so they may not be here yet...
people are saying that
Spinlok it's like the ghostbusters reboot of you hate it you hate woman I love 2016
The Birth of Zod's Snapped Neck
So... Man of Steel?
InfernoScorpion14 exactly!
People still mention this, wow!
This comment section is a fucking joke, i feel like i'm in a god damn Leafy comment section
Josiah Voisin that's what I am thinking
it's called creative marketing.FOR THE LOVE....IF MONEY.THE LOVE...OF MONEY IS THE ROOT......OF ALL THE EVILS THAT YOU WITTNESS.THEY LOVE THE MONEY BUT THEY HATE WORKING.THEY ABSOLUTELY HATE WORKING.
Sorry to break it to you...but it's only gonna get worse. If you know what Strictly Come Dancing is, there's been a shit ton of people saying "racism" because two black people got eliminated. Yep, not because they danced bad, because they're black. Stupid...
These days we think not "This person should be eliminated" or "This person should have this job". We think "We need to have a certain amount of people of race in the final" and "We need to have ascertain percentage of coloured people in this job".
I couldn't agree more, and this is coming from a black guy
These comments are so cancerous...why? Its just a movie review!
I understand that people hate Nate Parker but that does not mean his movie will be bad.
Anything involving racism right now just leads to either racist remarks or insults when the Internet is involved.
It's the "White Guilt".
Trolls roam the comment sections, but I do agree this is more hate than usual. It honestly makes no sense to me. Chris gave a pretty nuanced review. He didn't say it was one of the greatest or worst movies in the world and gave it a C+ and judged the movie on its own merits and not the character of the director. Apparently, movies are life and death and God forbid if you don't agree with someone's opinion of it.
Because republicunts are all racists fucktards and a cancer
I Hate to be so negative but I really hope 2017 will be a better year for movies....
It's been kinda weak. Hopefully these last 3 months can redeem the year with some outstanding films.
Agreed! Most of the movies I have seen this year felt like 90-120 minute trailers. There have been a lot of bright, flashing lights/effects with little to no substance.
I'm expecting the best movies of next year to be:
Star Wars Episode 8
Dunkirk
The Kidnapping of Edgardo Mortara
American Made
Alien Covenant
Blade Runner 2049
Murder On The Orient Express
Inception Report same.
This year will get MUCH better. We've still got Arrival, Silence, Rogue One, La La Land, Manchester by the Sea, Moonlight, Live by Night, Hacksaw Ridge, Nocturnal Animals, Doctor Strange, Moana, and The Founder coming up.
I just saw this movie a couple of days ago...and Chris perfectly articulated my thoughts. I really was looking forward to seeing a film that actually focuses on violent revolts during the slavery era. This film could have touched more on Nat's religious/African affiliated background and how it trickled into his transformation. It also shocked me that it didn't even touch on Turner's inspiration of the only successful slave revolution in Haiti. This is what made him think that his revolution would have been successful as well, not knowing the various factors that enable enslaved Haitians to free themselves. Although many people don't like slave movies, there aren't a lot of them and those that are made focus on a very narrow aspect. 12 Years a Slave was great because it highlighted how horrible slavery truly was without giving the audience relief because the slaves never got relief. McQueen forced us to feel what they did until Northup could go home in the very last moments of the film. There were so many women in the film that I would have loved to see play a part in the revolt (historically enslaved women were instrumental to the abolition and eventual civil war causes). I was disappointed that they were all given tropes without any real exploration. I am not versed in the personal controversy around Nate Parker but there's no denying that he is talented. I hope to see much more improvement in his future films.
I loved your review here. It’s incisive, erudite and well thought-out.
Kudos to you.
Where was Nate going to hear about it on the radio 🤣 my ancestors wasn't thinking about yours
That slave woman was not going to "sleep with" that white man. Forced sex should always be called what is is, rape. When people don't make that distinction it helps to normalize rape as just another form of sex.
Well said.
#MakeAmericaRapeAgain
chris was quoting the character in the film when he said "sleep with". he was not making any judgements about the referenced fictional circumstances. this language you use is nonsensical, of course i would never want to NORMALIZE it, but isn't rape by definition a form of sexual activity? if you disagree then how do you define it?
Can't believe you gave this an F!
I see what you did there...
Yeah, after all the good things he said about it, he gave it an F.
Jacob Elonen goddammit lmao
the mad man did it
I swear, this film makes every comment section on UA-cam cancerous.
I'm finding the Sundance reaction very odd given the current critical reception.
They applauded the movie before it even begin reason why it got so much hype is because of the oscarssowhite controversy
Tenacious, resilient, and fearless preacher Nat Turner fought his way out to be free from white supremacy.. Nate Parker started, directed and produced this film
What a downward spiral the hype for this movie has gone through. From being the most hyped and expensive movie to ever come from Sundance, to being shat on by everybody, and Nate Park basically becoming Lochte. Am I gonna see this movie? Probably not. Guess the Oscar is going to La La Land instead.
I see you everywhere lol. Love the comments though. I'm stoked for La La Land!
King of Wakanda with a name like King of Wakanda, I'd think you'd support Nate, and the story of fighting evil with justice.
stephanstafford I'm all for the history of it, but the stink around this movie is too strong to ignore. I was on the fence of seeing it initially (cuz these films are hard to watch), but the reviews are saying that this movie isn't that great, so I'm just gonna skip it.
King of Wakanda if Swiss army man don't get at least nominated I'm done
King of Wakanda It's an important movie in cinema history, and a good film all round. Most reviews of this movie aren't very objective at all. Even though it's an unpopular opinion *pause* melenated and so called "black" people don't always need to be portrayed as "life" kicking their backsides(in film, in life, fiction or non).....even though they got their said backsides kicked in BIRTH OF A NATION.
These fools that talk this stuff about slave movies must realize that slavery was not that long ago. Desegregation was less than forty years ago. And slavery ended in 1864! It terns of a historical perspective it was not that long ago. This movie from the filming to the relationships of the people on the plantation all were effected by the evil of slavery. Racism and hatred does not only affect the one that is being oppressed but the oppressor is damaged, physiologically, spiritually,and physically by the evil of slavery.This movie was a real human experience to have a relationship with your Master and to have a liking to him, yet having a hatred towards him for continuing and perpetuating a evil system of slavey. The filming of the camera created infinitesimal living environment that made you think you were really breathing the air in the world.I and many others enjoyed this movie will see it again and will discuss it with others on improving relationships and have authentic conversations to grow and learn so that this institution of evil will never be repeated again. This movie was breathtaking!
All that mess didn't come up on that man till this movie 😏
Yeah, it's a common WS talking point and the original movie is their fave haha
I was going to say the same thing.
Woody Allen is one of my favourite directors and Mel Gibsons Braveheart is one of my favourite films of all time. Those people have been in a wide range of publicly exploited controversy concerning their personal lives. So I've chosen to ignore what the tabloids are inevitable going to focus on with Nate Parker and just watch the movie for what it is.
wasn't there a film called birth of a nation about the kkk? coincidence?
Nathan Hogan no coincidence, it's deliberate
It was deliberate. Purposefully contrasting the 1915: "The Birth of a Nation" by D.W. Griffith. To be noted that the Griffith film was a technical marvel and very important as a constructed film. The racism is definitely a fault of the time and should not be forgotten. Griffith did get proper scrutiny later in his life, but is still regarded as a great innovator and a major player of the conception of the hollywood film industry.
1915s The Birth of a nation is a really nice movie and pdobably the most important movie in cinema history.
yeah but at least this one was more believable and realistic. the original was obvious white supremacist propaganda.
No. It's the exact reason he named it that.
The abruptness in the movie is to mirror the abruptness in slaves' lives: at any moment, their entire life could be taken and destroyed.
I don't agree with this review at all, well majority of it. Yes it does have some narrative flaws near the end, especially when the revolt starts to happen. But the character transition from Nate Parker wasn't abrupt. The whole movie leading up to the revolt was his transition. He never liked what he was doing. He knew preaching in this way was wrong. (SPOILER TERRITORY HERE) His father running away, his wife getting beat up, his best-friend's wife being used as a prostitute, the child slave on a leash, the forced feeding scene and the breaking point was when he was whipped. Plus his grandmother passed away. I think this will become a classic and I think many people are downgrading it because of the controversy outside the film. 12 Years Of Slave is better 100%, but this is a close second in my opinion.
you expected a man who "owns" other human beings to be consistently good. they are his property, he can treat them how he wants and flip on a dime.
It didn't have the white hero Brad Pitt like character, just say it man!
lol exactly.
Tiresome. If you dislike the movie, you're racist. That's the argument here in a nutshell? Very, very tiresome. Like the people who say I'm a racist because I don't like Cam Newton. No... I don't like him because I'm a Falcons fan and Cam's the QB of a rival team. I prefer Julio Jones and Devonta Freeman... Hey! Jones and Freeman are both black! *Gasp* So maybe I'm NOT a racist? Hmmmmmmmmm.
Joseph Adam Right and you have a Black friend to hidden somewhere in the closet. So cliche...I know right?!
Real shit esegeo
@@sonyapeach Or, you know, *he* could be black. Or does he not get to be because he doesn't agree with your race baiting?
12 Years a Slave wasn't even that bad. At all. Only part I even remember was the dude getting hanged and that was because of how well that scene was directed, not because it was violent.
youre missing the point
then you as an individual can stomach more violent scenes than Chris
Yeah, that was a great movie. Another scene was the whipping of the girl.. brutal.
I think Chris meant that the movie was disturbing. He did put it in his top ten best of of 2013.
+Christopher C (Chris) I know what he meant, I just don't agree. It wasn't graphic. The only reason it was hard to watch was because I found it rather boring. I also had an issue with the pacing of time as I didn't realize 12 years had past until the final scene. Felt more like 12 months instead of 12 years.
I am black and 11 years old when I watched this movie and I cried my heart out
@LadyGaGa is hot yes
Will Fryer 2 hmmm maybe because those were his fucking ancestors, just a thought
can you review the power rangers trailer?
I can't, sorry.
he prob won't. it was just a teaser, so there's not much to talk about, because there's not enough.
+CucumberGaming You're welcome
+CucumberGaming You're welcome
Great movie review as usual. Keep up the great work, man.
Brothers and sisters need to wake up! This movie is eye opening and a reminder of our struggles then and to this day still!!
We the Israelites
They can't wake up the third eye is sleep I give this movie a+ we don't need Caucasian people approval of this film weknow all about it because we live it everyday
Whoa! Only 9 views?! Holy Crap, I'm here early! No one else has even commented yet!
How can a non-fiction movie follow cliché narrative traits? That makes no sense to me.
Also, there was never such a thing as a "good" or "kind" slave owner to his slaves... they're slaves. Nat and his owner only had a connection because they grew up together. The film portrayed that well... idk why nobody caught that. Times were fucked up for you if you were a slave. Your slave owner got to do whatever he wanted to do with you, at any time, no matter what. Nat was still his master's property, not a friend. PRIZED property yes, but he saw him as something less significant than a pet.
This film was portrayed well to me, the only thing I disliked was that it didn't show enough Nat's full story. But if course, all of it can't be fit into one movie.
Was it better than Star Trek: Voyager?
Can you imagine his we feel. You won't understand. Your ancestors weren't enslaved for 400yrs. You have to experience what we go through on a daily basis. Basically what I'm saying you have to be black to really understand
Thanks Chris for recognizing the film's taking the Bible out of context. An issue many religions, churches, and movies have. Not all; but many. As a Christian, this was refreshing to hear. God bless and keep the reviews coming.
I saw the film it was excellent! People were cry, shouting, and celebrating in the movie theater! You must have hit a crack pipe before you saw this movie! This is the best movie I saw all year!
Hey Chris, do you watch Game of Thrones?
One thing I can say is I agree Nate Parker's performance was Oscar winning. Overall it is a good movie. Is a rewatch type of film. Youll discover more the more you watch. Was too short tho you wanted more.
I'm surprised that you never mentioned the 1915 movie.
I refuse to watch a movie directed by a rapist. This is probably just as bad as the original.
It's not a remake and he's not a rapist lol.
You seriously think someone would remake the original Birth of a Nation in 2016? Really?
You're a cold blooded assassin, get over it Slade.
did you watch Xmen?
I can't seem to find when was he convicted or is anyone simply accused, automatically guilty?
This the only review I've seen on UA-cam that i can respect. I'll wait to see this on Netflix.
Braveheart didn't "fill in the details" Braveheart outright fabricated history that we know to be wrong, or that we know to be utterly ridiculous.
NOTE: Comment reposted because the original comment became hijacked into a flame war that had nothing to do with what I was talking about in the below comment.
Personally, I still praise "Birth of a Nation" to the heavens in spite of its flaws mainly because I hope this will be the catalyst that leads to more films with proactive African-Americans leads actively fighting back against racism and oppression (like "In the Heat of the Night", "Black Caesar", or "Django Unchained") instead of more submissive, dime-a-dozen, turn-the-other-cheek, white guilt, "inspirational" glurge like "The Butler", "Driving Miss Daisy", or "12 Years a Slave".
*facepalm* Will you guys STOP trying to hijack comments for a flame war?!
Nat Turner's uprising did kill white children, history has proven that an undeniable fact. Said history ALSO confirms that slave children also suffered many cruelties INCLUDING death as well. The brutality and oppression of slavery eventually pushes slaves to a breaking point and uprisings happen, feeding into the Cycle of Violence. In ANY armed conflict (regardless of who started it or justifications/motivations for either side) there will ALWAYS be civilian casualties including children.
As for "empowering" or "hero", I am solely referring to on-screen cinematic representation of characters (and all adaptations of historical events take creative liberties or even biased viewpoints depending on who's making the adaptation). When it comes to Hollywood films about race with African-American leads ("The Butler", "Driving Miss Daisy", or "12 Years a Slave"), they ALWAYS go the route of White Guilt with the Black lead expected to turn the other cheek and bear the pain with submissive dignity without fighting back. Nate Parker's portrayal of Nat Turner is a subversion of this white guilt formula as he does reach a breaking point and he actually fights back (and again, ANY armed conflict will inevitably result in civilian casualties).
+TheKersey475 Well, equality isn't really gained through violence.
Why not?? It's a nice round out to the discussion.
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why'd he name it after one of the most racist and most important movies ever to exist.
fun fact: the original racist "Birth of a Nation" caused the recreation of the Ku Klux Klan
It's supposed to be a subversion on what the original was about. The KKK, a white-supremacist organization, was painted as a positive vigilante group in the original. The "remake" focuses on painting a black rebellion as a positive vigilante group.
So they made the same film and swapped the races.
Going off the first films history, what do you think this film was expecting to create?
Because that was the point.
You can see it as a sort of rebellion. He probably also wanted this movie to become the definitive birth of a nation and in essence overtake and delete the last one.
No shit. You don't think that was intentional?
If a movie leaves you broken physically and mentally, then you are soft and have a very serious problem.
We have a true Alpha male here guys
rofyle get out
rofyle Or you're an actual human with emotions, and not a robot
how? These are real people portraying a very real event. Having empathy makes you feel this way. I don't like these racist films either.
Ruby3Y3
I can have empathy without being "broken physically and mentally." I don't have to try to describe everything as if it were a defcon 1 situation. That's the problem with overstatements; you can't go any further even when you need to.
Now what is he supposed to say when he receives tragic news about a loved one? What, he was broken physically and mentally? You mean like when you were broken physically and mentally after watching that movie? You're going to compare the death of your mother or father or sister or brother to the feelings you had after watching a fucking movie? See how dumb his description was now?
Didn't know that Birth of a Nation was getting a reboot.
we already know who Chris is voting
Hhahahahahhaha
Who?
This movie is not necessarily meant to be a classic its meant to inform people of someone that teachers fail to mention in schools. Roots might not be that well acted, but it gave people a depiction of slavery. I really hope regardless of how you feel about this film that you listen to Nat Parkers interviews with Hot 97 and The Breakfast Club bc he explained alot on how onerous this film was to make. 2 hrs isn't enough time in my opinion.
This review dissappointed me
How so
Chris, I understand and agree with your point of how the film's ending should have felt more tragic. However, I disagree about the character arcs of Samuel Turner and Nat turning drastically. Sam was a flawed character, a "kind" slave master, but only as it was convenient and he was a drunkard. Remember, these people were just as much his property as the livestock. If another owner wanted to sample, he really couldn't deny it without possibly compromising his position. Nat's turn was also gradual, starting with the abuse he saw on other plantations (and how he was a tool for controlling it), his wife's abuse, Samuel pimping out one of the slaves to the other slave owner, his own beating for baptizing that white man and finally, his Grandmother's death. Nat also believed God had chosen him from birth to lead his people, to kill his oppressors and spare no innocent lives. Did you notice the bible verse he was reading before he started the rebellion?
1 Samuel 15:3
Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
James Robinson
Correction: He was reading the passage in 1 Samuel 15:3. Where King Saul Sinned by not Killing EVERYONE as commanded. So the prophet Samuel eventually finished the job for him.
1 Samuel 15:3
Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
Thank you for the correct reference. I revised it.
*C+?* Considering how your attitude towards the movie is like you are walking on eggshells I'm think your _"true"_ rating for the movie is a *D* or *D-.*
extragirth64 wouldn't be surprised I mean if he did that the pure hate he would get would be disgusting
12 Years a Slave is a very good movie but the book is better. Must read.
White Guilt: The Movie
no ones blaming you pal and this is coming from a black guy
***** my dad is one of those people lol
WE MUST NEVER HAVE GUILT!!!
Thank you Nate Parker for this movie .We need more movies like this ,hope one is made in the future about the Haitian Revolution.
Gonna skip this film!
Suuup bro !!! Appreciate cool review. Do you think ppl in the industry sort of being shy away from the contemporary piece on the racism at this moment ? The period pieces that have come out last couple of years, aren't really believable enough for me personally .... Do you think you can make the episode the period pieces on the racism from past 3 decades that really speak to your heart.
You weren't as disgusted by the violence as you were from watching 12 years of slave? And you think that's a negative? Hmmm
He saying that in 12 years a slave he was emotionally impacted by the portrayal of slavery and oppression in it. This movie did not impact him as much mostly due to the screenplay.
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Of course it didn't impact him emotionally, it was blacks killing whites so yeah theres that.
THE DARK PRINCE Exactly.
@@royalpriesthood4413 No, he clearly stated that it was because of the sudden character shift that was so jarring. Did you even watch the review. He clearly articulated his points
Stuckman is one the few UA-cam critics whose recommendations I still follow
"Slave Movie 2016"
It really didn't seem like too much of a stretch when his master allowed that to happen. He seemed to be a decent slave owner, compared to the others, but was a drunk and in a lot of dept. His ambition to reclaim his lost wealth, gave him the motivation to look the other way. The movie had established the love that Nat had for his wife and daughter. It was after his wife was beaten (and likely raped) that he wanted to start a rebellion. However it wasn't until he actually saw his master just give up one of his female slaves (who was married) that caused Nat to start the actual rebellion; knowing that it could be his wife/daughter being given up like that one day.
HUGH MUNGUS
How dare you! How dare you speak to me in that manner!
LOL, didn't expect to see this referenced on a movie review channel. Just make sure you don't make this joke towards the people on the continent of Hawaii :D
Utracia1 where did you get that joke, GOODWEHL?
HUGH MUNGUS WHAT? WAS THAT SEXUAL HARASSMENT WHEN YOU SAID THAT?
I'M TRIGGERED!!!
Chris, I dare ask if you might review The Birth of a Nation (1915). I know the controversy, but I wonder how you would review it.
I really respect honest white people and to admit when you don't understand something really speaks volumes to me
1:39 thanks! this couldn't be more important these days
As a black man, I can relate to your views on racism and movies like this so just know you aren't alone Chris.
Do you think you will review Masterminds. it's pretty brutal and I want to hear a good rant on a bad movie.
As a white man, I didn't like this movie because it's not a true story.
Most movies aren't true stories dumb dumb.
The Greedy Gamer he means it not accurate to history
Yea what ninja sloth said you idiots...cmon! I bet your trump fans bro
The ninja sloth but it is tho
The movie doesn't do his actions justice. He killed way more whites then they showed. He even slaughtered a school full of white children. He was a hero to his people.
What did you think about the new power rangers trailer?
Was about to go to bed. Then I spotted the video
Unrelated to the current review.. but I would love to see you cover more anime on this channel :)
I do plan to watch this.. eventually, but hearing mixed things here and there, I'll hold off on this for now
the point is, mr stuckman, of german heritage, the movie could squeeze everything into a 2 hour movie. its based on a true story. second, why dont you watch the propaganda piece of the 1915 original. the same movie was sparked a number of lynchings of blacks across america.
kidn of interesting that he didn't mention the original and how they recycled the title... still havent seen this yet
I'm shocked that you are confused about Nat's slave master request regarding the female slave to sleep with his guest. No matter how nice he seemed during the movie, he still was a slave owner. And they didnt see slaves as equals let alone human. It shocks me that you need help from the director to illustrate the mindset of a slave owner. There's no such thing as a good slave master. (smh).
Shit I've never been so early, quick, think of something funny, ah, got it, my life
I heard Chris Rock once talk about wanting to do a Nat Turner movie that, to be be honest, painted him as something much more complicated than just a simple Braveheart figure.
"No mercy" was given to the enslaved, men, women and children who were raped, beaten, mutilated and murdered for centuries. Nat Turner spoke the only language racist white people understand, violence. The movie was brilliant. I found it much more compelling than 12 years a slave. It showed the anatomy of how religion was used to enslave African minds. We saw the preacher Nat Turner's slow evolution towards repulsion and rage at the cruelty and violence used against black people, using the Bible to justify it. Another aspect that was explored masterfully was how the constant inhumanity against Africans by the whites, destroyed the humanity of white people. They drank themselves to death, trying to numb themselves from their own monsterous acts. Their lives were miserable surrounded by a house of horrors and misery that they orchestrated. They were monsters and their culture was sick. That culture is alive and well to this day.
Not only black people were slaves
I don't like the comparison to twelve years a slave, sure there are apparent overlapping themes, but all movies have that across every genre and subject. But when critiquing a piece of art it's best to view it as its own entity....this happens a lot when it comes to black films. They are instantaneously compartmentalized into their own sub-category...People don't compare "Roots" to "Schindlers Liszt".why? Because when we look at it *Schindlers Lizst*, we see a film that is telling a very specific story, and that story makes us as the audience feel a specific way...both collectively and individually. Then we make our critiques of the film about how effectively the story was told. The moment you compare, it's about which film is better, which drastically eliminates the finer points in a film....but this is a good review here...I agree with you about the pacing and some of the themes that could have been brought out more....I like the brief rebellion played up as a victory...Nate chooses to take a nuanced long view approach...he set a precedent that freedom was possible..that's the point he's making....rather than wallowing the immediate submission of defeat....
A film should be judged by itself, you're right about that. But to suggest that similar movies being compared only happens with "black films" is utter nonsense. There has been two recent high profile movies about the subject of slavery in America from the perspective of a slave. Of course they will be compared.
Skibi Don't get me wrong i see the temptation to compare...heck I'm not even saying its wrong to compare...but I'm saying that the comparisons shift the focus...i just don't really see comparison as a more effective means holistically of analyzing...especially when it comes to art
These comments are terrible.
Does it have anything to do with the 1915 Birth of a Nation by D.W. Griffith?
I hate that it failed at the box office.
It's a racist movie just like the one that came out 100 years ago.
Except the original is still a masterpiece. You can say what you want about the subject matter, but it was still the first actual film ever made, and it was directed by one of the most important men in Hollywood and one of the greatest directors of all time.
Yes the movie does deal with racism in america. It's kinda hard to make a movie about American slavery without dealing with racism lol
Well the other one has an "excuse". Black people got opressed EVEN MORE back then so at the time of course it was going to be racist. Now it is unacceptable because of all the recent events. I mean its unnaceptable back then but now it really is stupid if it is racist because of all the movements and news related to black people and there opression. This gets me kinda pissed. But well at least the new one was made by a black director.... even more stupid
+Yolo Swaggins - it's not remotely the first film ever made. In fact is was even quite heavily inspired by the Italian Film Cabiria which came out a year prior to it. Likewise masterpiece is a little far fetched.
explain how this movie is "racist"
white people (at least me and many people i know) who were born and raised in the north don't understand racism. I guess because it just wasn't an issue growing up. I went to a high school with 400 kids.. my graduating class had a grand total of 98 students. and out of all 98, 1 was black. Only a handful were not white (hispanic, asian, etc.) So to me, I grew up seeing people as people. Doesn't matter what color skin you had. I never thought about it. Because I grew up not even considering it. Now that I'm older and I live in a very mixed society, I don't get people.
Walter Shmitty racism wouldn't have affected you anyway
Sodapop Curtis greaser😂 you need a haircut?
I agree with some points you make chris, but it sounds like your saying nate parker should have created a movie that has already been made in 12 years a slave. the abrupt changes in character makes sense when u think of the period the movie its set in. those things would happen all the time. check out my review on this film i hit some of the similar points you made also but i think its better than what you gave it credit for.
Nate Parker was sending a message to all Black ppl,you cant decode it because you are white,which is a great thing. Great movie if you can understand the message. Stay lost....lmao
So, will Chris Stuckman review the 1915 version of 'the birth of a nation'?
C+ for a good movie? Yeah right. lol
12 Years A Slave, I thought was much better. Showed a stark difference between a good and a bad slave holder and obviously there were other types. I feel that the spirit behind 12 Years was better than that of Nate Parker behind Birth of a Nation.
Here's why 12 Years a Slave is better:
1. A prolific experienced director: Steve McQueen.
2. Better actors aside from Brad Pitt.
3. Bigger budget and better art direction.
4. Better writers.
5. A better soundtrack/score.
6. It was a biopic/drama, not a generic action movie like Birth of a Nation.
Braveheart is not fun! It is historical bullshit! We know easily enough about William Wallace to make a great film about him. In Braveheart they make ridiculous mistakes out of utter laziness. Watch the History Buffs video about it.
Don't care.
Agreed
It's great though. That's all I care about.
Agree. The real WIlliam Wallace deserves a movie that isn't garbage. To say nothing of the film King Edward deserves.
In the exodus they talk about destroying the house of Saul but that doesn't mean destroy the house that means kill the family even the baby's when nat finally opened his eyes to the atrocities committed by the slave owners he referred to the exodus part of the bible
white people should feel disturb about this movie......
Ummm, WHITE PEOPLE should feel disturbed about SLAVERY itself!! Oh,but I guess ya'll White supremacist will come back with you all's backwards retort JUSTIFYING making humans the White man's property. FOH!!!
"And then these characters change so drastically for no real reason"? Just because he was a "better" slave owner doesn't take away from the fact that he's a SLAVE OWNER! Like what are you even saying. Just because he was "nicer" doesn't make him a good guy. He still saw his slaves as property, tf
It's funny that you'd expect them to show mercy, when no mercy was shown to them. No matter how much they screamed while being rapped, no matter how much they begged not to have their babies thrown to the gators, no matter how much the cried and begged not to have their children sold, no matter how much they screamed while their husbands were strung up mutilated and burned... but you expect them to show their tormentors mercy...
#whitepeoplearesumthinelse
Amen
This was pretty great movie IMO. Great acting and great performances as well but i do agree with Chris that it could've showed more emotional impact of the rebellion. I also feel like the movie could've been been longer. At least by 30 minutes. If it was at least 30 minutes longer then Nate Parker could've added more to the story to make a greater emotional impact and ending for the audience. All this aside, it think this one of the best movies of 2016.
can you do another hilariocity
This movie is gonna be nominated for an Oscar not because it's good, which it's not, but because the academy LOVES slavery movies. If black people make movies not about slavery, there's no way the movie is getting nominated. BS.
Can you do a review of the original 1915 version?
On the subject on separating the art from the artist, go watch Bob "MovieBob" Chipman's video. Very insightful and deep. Short answer tho: no. You CANNOT separate them