Someone tell Todd that there’s a guy available who led Taunton Town all the way to the top of the Prem and he fits the Premier League bald manager meta 😊
This isn't wrong. I wish Clearlake had just bought Brighton instead. Would have saved them a BOATLOAD of cash. Also wish the government hadn't forced Roman to sell Chelsea...
What “steals” are you talking about? Looks like Brighton has been robbing Chelsea for years. Over 150 Million spent plus possible incentives for Caicedo and Cucurella?
There are really smart executives in American sports, Boehly isn't one of them. Even with the dodgers having insane money they've under achieved in terms of the ultimate goal: titles. One world series with great lineups, the best pitcher of his generation (Kershaw) as well as a deep rotation year on year, and one of the best closers of the 2010s (Kenley Jansen). They've won 1 world series title since Clearlake took over.
@@jamesbaurus5928 My feeling is that they haven't grasped a major difference in Football compared to baseball - in the latter, each position is pretty discrete. You might need a degree of communication between 2nd base and short stop, but largely each position knows what they have to do, there isn't a lot of interactions that have to be adjusted on the fly. If I recruit a batter who plays in the outfield, I can largely guess what he'll contribute. It's very different to soccer where just about every position interacts, like having a strong LB who only needs a little help from a left sided midfield player. It's so much harder to know how a transfer will pan out
Another sign that Boely knows nothing about running a club. Chelsea was a joke for most of this season (again) but the last third of the season, Poch showed that he might have figured out some chemistry between all these new players, chemistry that could take them forward into the next season. That's what happens with a lot of teams, like Inter for example. They hit a massive streak around April of last year, showing they figure out something (and getting to the CL final in the process). That something was shown this year, when they absolutely dominated serie a. If Pochettino was not sacked and instead left, good for him. Chelsea is not a serious club to base a project on.
Zealand you could talk about how Temperley(an average 2nd tier team) scored A 92ND MINUTE BICYCLE KICK to eliminate River Plate(arguably the biggest club in argentina and south america, and the richest club in argentina by a big margin) from the Argentine Cup
For some reason I have this shit in my head that thinks Boehly would rehire Poch out of sheer incompetence and the whole time he forgets he already had him before but goes through with it like they never met.
It might be the right decision in terms of footballing sense as many times poch didn’t seem to have good tactics and relied on individual brilliance. the main problem is who is better on the market to replace him right now. and seeing how much the squad liked him it’s hard to see a good ending to this
Exactly my point. Poch had his problems, sometimes really obvious ones, but the fact that we're not linked to a manger that isn't a huge risk and that we can comfortably claim to do a better job really worries me.
Exactly. Some of his tactical decisions this year were absolutely indefensible, and the team was only "trending up" because it was so ridiculously poor at the start. They were still barely beating bottom-table and midtable teams, their last three results were wins by 1 goal over 11th, 12, and 17th. And they weren't even playing in Europe this year, and that has a huge impact on squad availability, so this is basically their peak. And, because they missed Champions League, which is a joke when Aston Villa managed to make it, they probably will have to sell Gallagher or someone else. They might still miss Europa League based on the FA Cup final. I'm sure they have huge clauses with sponsors for missing the CL. I don't understand how anyone can look at Poch this season and think he was a good manager long-term. Just because the club is a clown show doesn't necessarily mean it makes sense to keep Poch. If they genuinely don't have any good manager prospects, and they haven't had any discussions with their targets, it's stupid then. But we won't know until they make their hire if that was true or not.
As a Chelsea fan I am disgusted by this decision. There are rumours he is gone because he wanted to keep Gallagher and Chalobah. Absolute joke. Also, when running vlog Z?
There are also rumours he is gone because he was told his training methods made the injury crisis much worse and he wouldn't listen to that. We can't actually be sure what the truth is, all we know is that journalists seem to deny that transfers is the reason,
unfortunately they have backed themselves into a corner where they pretty much do have to sell both of them. the only other player they could sell and make a profit on would be Palmer and not even Boehly is that insane. all the others would represent massive losses and humiliation for the owners (unless they can interest the Saudis in them). from a footballing perspective it is crazy to sell Gallagher in particular though
I'm a Chelsea fan, I’vewatched literally every match this season.Allthough keeping him would’ve made sense i would like the board to go with someone they agree with on major points (regardless of the route they intend to take) Some of the errors that might’ve cost him his position : -let down his pre-season principles just after 3 winless games(brings them back & we win5 consécutives games) -chilwell as a winger -Enzo in the 10 -Gallagher winger -Catastrophic substitutions -Cataclysmic match management -nonsensical team composition numerous times -Unable to beat Middlesbourough who had 16 injured players -Refuses to change his training methods despite the fact that the club brought in specialists who questioned his method regarding players injuries -Brings players back from injuries directly into group training despite the instructions of the medical department -Draw against Sheffield United who have conceded 104 goals this season -Draw against a 10 man burnley side -Final vs Liverpool -Refuses the addition of a set-piece coach when we are the worst team in the Premier League in that domain -The team is doing poorly 80% of the season but he changes absolutely nothing in his system before the last 5 games -Incompatibility of its system with players that the club considers central to the project: Colwill and Enzo -System centered on Conor Gallagher -Disagreement with the board over Gallagher's place in the project -The ian maatsen case -Management of Academy players - Asks for transfer power when he asked for dybala ugarte and lautaro and did not want to palmer Sacking him is not a stupid décision depending of Who you Will replace him with
McKenna's agent is supposedly pushing for Chelsea, but you'd have to wonder if the framework is there for him to succeed rather than follow their previous managers onto the scrapheap after 9 months. He's a Man United fan, and was assistant manager there under Mourinho and Solskjaer. If Ten Hag goes and they come knocking, McKenna ends up at Old Trafford.
That's a choice between two basket cases... Neither club does a good job with recruitment and I don't think either would let him take over that aspect, he'd be better off waiting for a well run mid-table club than either of those two!
Poch wasn’t given much say in transfers and there were sources stating that he wanted assurances on certain players not getting sold, more say in transfers, more experienced players in the transfer policy, and a contract extension. All of this seems pretty reasonable, and as a Chelsea fan who follows this very closely, definitely for the better of the club
Does Boehly actually grasp the rules on HomeGrown players? That's the most bizarre thing about his transfer strategy, I don't think Madueke qualifies for example as he spent that time out in the Netherlands. He seems to want to be seen to make a big signing each year and will sell off the HG players to do it, even though that limits the club in Europe...
@@neilbiggs1353 as I understand it, Gallagher and Chalobah are the only ones that can be sold for pure profit. After that they'll have to start playing Gilchrist and co more so they can sell them a year from now. This might be something Poch objected to, but in fact due to past decisions it's something that pretty much has to happen, otherwise points deductions and other fun stuff.
@@GuyJames They could sell the experienced players to balance the books - He does realise that when you keep buying big name players it tends to inflate the wage bill too? This 'strategy' feels like Jenga, remove the pieces you build on, keep adding to the top... They're probably better off getting a points penalty than doing the same thing as Man Utd where they've kept buying players with no real design. The points will affect one season, getting an older squad while potentially alienating the academy graduates feels like it has a much longer tail
@@neilbiggs1353 yes I agree. but at this point it looks like they are trying to avoid looking like they've been found out more than they want to run a functional football club
From what I read Potch wanted a say over transfers which the owners must have refused after all he’s done for the club so he’s walked, would love him to go Bayern to prove he wasn’t the problem
Chelsea fans knew it was a big possibility, if you go back to the last pressconferences of the season. The relation between poch and the board was a bit tense… could go more in depth, but that for be for another time
100%, exactly that. They fired the best man for the job, who was making progress and had momentum. It's going to get worse now, not to mention how treating managers like this will affect their ability to attract elite coaches, look at Bayern
As a Chelsea fan this is a completely stupid decision the fact that he gave us European football in his first season with such an inconsistent and disjointed team that he inherited and the board fires him because he didn't make Champions League is (in the wise words of Didier Drogba) a disgrace, a f***ing disgrace
I'm coping but the only thing I can think of that makes this make sense, is if poch was always meant to be a development manager to coach these players' mentality through the rough times, until they were ready to start having good seasons, and they think the time has come to bring on a more tactically focused manager.
As soon as i seen it i felt like Poch wanted out. Chelsea just seem like a shambles. Todd does the Abramovich and signs players the manager doesnt want, so i do feel there is a high probability that he doesnt want the job
@@realwickedbrew i agree, i wasnt criticising Abramovich in fairness just comparing but Todds more the type of guy to pick the horse by the colour of the jockeys jersey 🤣
Everyone stopped laughing at them in the last month....at least we can do that again. Thanks Boehly. They are the new man u under glazers and i am a leeds fan so getting yo laugh at chelsea and man u is great and watching their fans be miserable about their clubs is fun too. Long may Boehly reign.
yes, I was getting worried that we'd have to stop laughing at them, thanks Todd. sell Palmer now and we can have a really good chuckle for the next couple of seasons
zealand: gonna take it to roman empire cause you probably haven't thought of that today me who interrupted his fallout NV Legion run to watch the video: yeah, thanks
Think Boehly and co watches Zealand. They heard him ask the question, what about Hoeness in his video a couple of days ago and now Chelsea are considering him.
It's not like Poch hasn't made any mistakes but considering recent form it's really weird that they sacked him. What makes it bad is the new managers we are linked with. Enzo Maresca is just another Kompany/Burnley situation. We're somehow linked to Kompany aswell. Ruben Amorim (my favorite option by far) was ruled out a couple weeks ago. McKenna is amazing but still very risky as the jury is still out on whether he can do it in the Prem let alone a bigger club like Chelsea. De Zerbi I have 0 trust in. And Hoeneß also isn't super experienced and apparently decided to stick with Stuttgart anyway. We're not linked to an option that fills me with hope and this really worries me. I'm a Chelsea fan and I genuinely fear that I wont be able to back the next manager from the get go and will have to wait until I'm won over. And I'm not the type of fan to hold grudges or not back anybody from my team. I worry. More than I have ever.
As a chelsea fan, it makes no sense and our owners are clueless. Yet, our club always has chaos like no other, so I could also see us somehow going on a title run enxt year. Honestly, at chelsea who the fuck knows what's gonna happen.
The 'mutual agreement' part is a known-hoax. Besides concealing the reasons for parting ways, it's also a way to conceal how much the coach receives in release clause fees. Because these fees are massive, coaches often don't get the full amount that comes with an official "fired" situation. They always negotiate a percentage of that fee and that's where the 'mutual agreement' part comes into play.
Word on the street is allegedly Boehly took Poch out for a dinner the other night, Boehly apparently wanted Poch to stay but was outvoted by the others in the consortium, so he took Poch out for dinner to apologise for what's coming
I knew something was up when Poch didn't say goodbye to the fans, either in a 'see you next season' way, nor a 'it's been real, thanks for everything, goodbye' way. He just didn't say anything which means he knew he was leaving but didn't want to tip off the media yet with a big farewell scene.
@GuyJames it just doesn't make sense, why they did it now, if it was after the Arsenal game it'd have made sense, but they've won 5 in a row since, the timing just appears wrong, Chelsea look like more of a basket case of a club than ever now
the truth is that poch wanted to keep gallagher and chalobah but thats not in line with the boards vision. this along with hand-picked metrics (e.g. how much we haven't utilized set pieces) is what caused a rift between the ownership and poch. boehly is the frontman and takes a lot of the heat, but i firmly believe this was a decision made by majority stakeholders like egbhali and co. i think the consortium hasnt seen eye to eye in a while hence they are now rarely seen together nor speak to the public in regards to one other. based on how things are going, i don't see a light at the end of the tunnel any time soon.
yes, this. if they sold Enzo for 60 million it would fix the FFP problem and everything could continue. but that would be a climbdown for the owners and as Z says, they appear to want to fly right through the Sun like Icarus on steroids. They'll probably get it right eventually, just by the law of averages.
it's like they were finally overcoming that tag after 2 years of chaos, but then the owners decide they actually prefer chaos (good shout from Z to mention Watford who are the only club that's more chaotic)
Finishing 12th last season was a disaster. Finishing 6th this season is still bad. I feel like everyone's focus is on Chelsea's last couple of games, but judging the whole season, it wasn't good enough. The only problem I have with sacking Potch is lack of solid replacement on the market. If they hire some Championship coach, next season I'm going to watch every game through my fingers.
Clubs take a while to turn around, unless you've got a new manager in sync with the playing style of the recruited players. It's why Man Utd are in such a mess, there just hasn't been that continuity in transfer targets and manager playing styles. You probably need 18 months of a manager getting their type of players in to really judge them. Still not oversold on Poch, but I'm not going to draw negatives about any Chelsea managers of recent years!
As a Chelsea fan, I disagree. It took Pochettino 34 premier league games to adapt his system and trying something new (the game against Aston Villa on April 27th), up to that game we were dreadful relying on individual performances to win games. While our recent games were definitely an improvement, look at how quick Glasner has improved Crystal Palace in way less time than Poch. The problem isn't not having Pochettino it's more the names which are being rumoured to replace him. Personally think the decision to end his time was made after the Arsenal 5-0 game.
Agreed, we got 6th inspite of Poch, not because him. Nice guy but took him way too long to work out that playing Caicedo as your only midfielder doesn't really work
As you point out, billionaires have fragile egos, so there's always this dilemma, especially at Chelsea where you have basically people who were recently children fighting each other: you need someone with a bit of gravitas who is able to bring discipline to the situation. BUT of course this person will then go up against the billionaire and try to get them to buy the players they want etc rather than meekly accepting what they're given, because they have gravitas and are used to getting what they want. So billionaire has a meltdown and sacks them (Tuchel), or they leave because they know they are never getting what they need (what I think probably just happened with Poch). Potter was just never given enough time to pitch his tent in what was basically a hurricane.
They say Chelsea DOF and one of owners wanted to be the next Man City with insane possession, but Pochettino wanted, as he does, to go vertical on the pitch, and when he realizes it is impossible to do what he wants to do, he wanted to leave. He wanted to avoid "the next season". They say.
I'm so f****** pissed right now. Just when I thought my club was finally bouncing back, now we have to have growing pains with a new manager while they sell all the home grown players
Its just about time for the Euros, there will be some sackings and departures. With how weird the manager market gets, he'll be in charge of France before we know it LOL
Ok, story time: Back in the day, i'm playing FM2008 and i'm 50+ seasons in. I'm managing Aston Villa at this point. Won everything multiple times. New season, we started slow, and the team is not quite good, but improving. I am in the last year of contract and my fate depends on what i'll win. Half way through the season the club is sold and new boss arrived. Eventually the team is turned around: we started winning every game, no injuries, the harmany is top. The team wins CL and PL in style. Season ended. My contract was not renewed, despite all this, the new boss wanted a new direction... wtf.... I took over the richest club then (Fulham) and kept destroying the game...
Oh, yeh you can't say which European competition Chelsea are in. It's dependant on the result of the FA Cup final. Which is also Newcastle's biggest game of the season.
I feel like Chelsea wanted to sell home grown talent for ffp and poch wanted to keep the players he had started to build around but the board have earmarked them for the 100 percent profit.
@@realwickedbrew I agree, which makes me think he pushed his luck a little hoping the end of season form available jobs out there maybe player support he'd be able to change something. i dont think its missing out on champions league this year
Yeah, but the HG talent is vital for Europe, and Sterling is ageing, and I don't know if Madueke is qualified. If they try to buy HG players from other clubs, those fees are going to be eye-watering!
he doesn't get the full say on transfers, its the co-sporting directors. He wasn't a fan of being a head coach. For example, he had a set-price coach forced on him which he didn't like
7:27 I will not, i repeat, i will not listen to any lucas moura slander about titles. Before he left for europe, he won the Sudamericana with Sao Paulo. And when he came back, he won the Brazil Cup. Do you know how many titles Sao Paulo won in the between? ZERO. He put tottenham in the ucl final basically by himself and then the title of this video left him in the bench for the final. It's not his fault that tottenham doesnt have a titles since we were in diapers
No such thing as mutual consent when it comes to employment, as the bosses usually go "we don't want you anymore but we'll give you a mutually agreed amount of money" that's all there is to it, poch wouldn't have said "I'm going nowhere" cos if he did then it would officially be classed as a sacking. Todd Bloated knew months ago before the upturn in form. Just my guess 😂
I think the issue is that the Chelsea manager DOESN’T get to sign whoever they want. All sales and signings are decided by the owner and the board, most notably sales, and I don’t think Poch was happy with that. Especially when it comes to home grown players such as Gallagher and Chalobah who Boehly seems desperate to sell
Sounds from Chelsea seem to suggest their empowering the green bar analysts who took issue with Poch's decisions (wrongly, who tf are they and what have they ever done?) like playing Enzo higher, (correctly) and playing more transitional (right decision) and Poch was apparently against the sale of Gallagher and Chalobah, but those idiots likely want to cash in on them and waste it on dross again. Good luck to Palmer next season, he had a good run with a manager giving him freedom to play, I have him scoring 11 goals total next season.
man, that +19 stat is amazing. to outperform, even in that one regard, a team like Villa who had such a stellar season by breaking into the top 4, can only be seen as success. ok, Villa are at the top end of the league and the higher up the table you go, the harder and harder improving gets because it means taking points off better and better sides, but still, Emery's +7 improvement for Villa is being seen as an unqualified triumph, but +19 isn't enough to keep the job at Chelsea? madness...
Some of the +19 can be put down to missing out on Europe though - having those fewer mid-week games can help keep the nominal first team fresher for longer. Most non-Big 6 teams in Europe tend to perform worse than the season they qualified
@@neilbiggs1353 and also they had a terrible season last time, so improving a lot on that is probably not impressing the owners that much. it's more like 'we've spent a billion quid, why are we still only sixth?' (forgetting the fact that the EPL is actually difficult and top six is not at all a bad result with that squad)
I know Zealand doesn't pay attention to the everyday sphere of Chelsea news, but this was not a surprise to us who were paying attention. Poch and the owners/directors don't agree on many things like transfer structure and despite results, this has been building. Not a shock at all. Like immediately after the season ended, the directors announce that Poch faves like Chalobah and Gallagher are for sale. So of course there's discontent. Poch doesn't want the players he likes sold and the directors just want a "yes man" to do as he's told.
Chelsea will be a Championship club in under 10-years as will United. The only alternative scenario is one where the FA actually grows a pair, punishes City, relegates them and forces them to start the Championship season in -30 odd points where in the wake of this catastrophe, Arsenal enjoys a period of 2-5 years alternating Premier League wins with Liverpool and Newcastle while Chelsea and United restore their status just ahead of City’s return and establishing a new top 6 of the aforementioned clubs plus Spurs or someone else like Villa or Ham pending a gaffer appointment or two.
I think it's more that they told him they have to sell Gallagher and Chalobah for FFP reasons. He said, why not sell some other players - the ones who don't fit my ideas rather than the ones who do - and they replied that they don't want to get humiliated like that and we'll get someone else in who will make those players work.
I think this was a vibes decision. Basically everyone who's paying attention knows that this season was better for Chelsea compared to last. However, it didn't feel like it was better for most of the season.
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I'm convinced Boehly is a Tottenham or Arsenal fan at this point
As a Chelsea supporter, we know for sure Boehly is a Brighton fan.
@@realwickedbrewon point
@@realwickedbrew as brighton fan, it would be really funny if they just switch managers for next season 😂
@@bijikedelai definitely not impossible. then they can switch back when everything goes wrong for both of them
Someone tell Todd that there’s a guy available who led Taunton Town all the way to the top of the Prem and he fits the Premier League bald manager meta 😊
And he’s American. Great fit with ownership.
And he employs the 4-4-3 formation in buildup.
Let's be honest. Chelsea saw De Zerbi walking out on Brighton, rubbed their hands together, and now want another steal from that goddamn club!
This isn't wrong. I wish Clearlake had just bought Brighton instead. Would have saved them a BOATLOAD of cash. Also wish the government hadn't forced Roman to sell Chelsea...
@TheAlbumGuy because stealing managers from Brighton worked so well for Chelsea already.
What “steals” are you talking about? Looks like Brighton has been robbing Chelsea for years. Over 150 Million spent plus possible incentives for Caicedo and Cucurella?
@realwickedbrew you can both hate Clearlake (completely reasonable) and also NOT pine for a Russian Oligarch/previous owner.
How dare a warmonger's friends be punished @@realwickedbrew
As a Chelsea fan, this club is so cooked. The club needs stability and they go ahead and do this. The players loved that man
Welcome to the club, Manchester United fan here. To ur left is a bar to drown ur problems away n the right is sum kush
Miss the days of Zola, Lamps and Drogba
Poch was never sacked, though. He asked for more leeway in the transfer window, was denied and walked out.
@@rvoItz Ohhhh he was sacked. Just like McKenna will be in 12-18 months. This club is now a proper joke
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When you talk to Boehly about football he thinks of the armoured rugby game
Even as a American football fan I would do a better job then Todd
There are really smart executives in American sports, Boehly isn't one of them. Even with the dodgers having insane money they've under achieved in terms of the ultimate goal: titles.
One world series with great lineups, the best pitcher of his generation (Kershaw) as well as a deep rotation year on year, and one of the best closers of the 2010s (Kenley Jansen).
They've won 1 world series title since Clearlake took over.
@@jamesbaurus5928 My feeling is that they haven't grasped a major difference in Football compared to baseball - in the latter, each position is pretty discrete. You might need a degree of communication between 2nd base and short stop, but largely each position knows what they have to do, there isn't a lot of interactions that have to be adjusted on the fly. If I recruit a batter who plays in the outfield, I can largely guess what he'll contribute. It's very different to soccer where just about every position interacts, like having a strong LB who only needs a little help from a left sided midfield player. It's so much harder to know how a transfer will pan out
Another sign that Boely knows nothing about running a club. Chelsea was a joke for most of this season (again) but the last third of the season, Poch showed that he might have figured out some chemistry between all these new players, chemistry that could take them forward into the next season. That's what happens with a lot of teams, like Inter for example. They hit a massive streak around April of last year, showing they figure out something (and getting to the CL final in the process). That something was shown this year, when they absolutely dominated serie a.
If Pochettino was not sacked and instead left, good for him. Chelsea is not a serious club to base a project on.
Zealand you could talk about how Temperley(an average 2nd tier team) scored A 92ND MINUTE BICYCLE KICK to eliminate River Plate(arguably the biggest club in argentina and south america, and the richest club in argentina by a big margin) from the Argentine Cup
For some reason I have this shit in my head that thinks Boehly would rehire Poch out of sheer incompetence and the whole time he forgets he already had him before but goes through with it like they never met.
4:04 Not a day goes by without thinking of the Roman Empire for me.
WHERE'S THE FROG!? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE Z???
Pepe Guardiola is just celebrating his 4th consecutive Prem title
It might be the right decision in terms of footballing sense as many times poch didn’t seem to have good tactics and relied on individual brilliance. the main problem is who is better on the market to replace him right now. and seeing how much the squad liked him it’s hard to see a good ending to this
Exactly my point.
Poch had his problems, sometimes really obvious ones, but the fact that we're not linked to a manger that isn't a huge risk and that we can comfortably claim to do a better job really worries me.
Exactly. Some of his tactical decisions this year were absolutely indefensible, and the team was only "trending up" because it was so ridiculously poor at the start. They were still barely beating bottom-table and midtable teams, their last three results were wins by 1 goal over 11th, 12, and 17th. And they weren't even playing in Europe this year, and that has a huge impact on squad availability, so this is basically their peak.
And, because they missed Champions League, which is a joke when Aston Villa managed to make it, they probably will have to sell Gallagher or someone else. They might still miss Europa League based on the FA Cup final. I'm sure they have huge clauses with sponsors for missing the CL.
I don't understand how anyone can look at Poch this season and think he was a good manager long-term. Just because the club is a clown show doesn't necessarily mean it makes sense to keep Poch. If they genuinely don't have any good manager prospects, and they haven't had any discussions with their targets, it's stupid then. But we won't know until they make their hire if that was true or not.
7:22 Lucas is on São Paulo, last year they won the Copa Do Brasil ( our FA CUP), so i guess he doesnt work for current Bayern.
as a Chelsea fan, I’ve been avoiding this video all day. The pain is still too fresh.
As a Chelsea fan I am disgusted by this decision. There are rumours he is gone because he wanted to keep Gallagher and Chalobah.
Absolute joke.
Also, when running vlog Z?
There are also rumours he is gone because he was told his training methods made the injury crisis much worse and he wouldn't listen to that. We can't actually be sure what the truth is, all we know is that journalists seem to deny that transfers is the reason,
He also left entirely by himself
Bet you weren't saying this 5 days ago
@@PeterGriffinfromFortnite Lost the bet mate.
unfortunately they have backed themselves into a corner where they pretty much do have to sell both of them. the only other player they could sell and make a profit on would be Palmer and not even Boehly is that insane. all the others would represent massive losses and humiliation for the owners (unless they can interest the Saudis in them). from a footballing perspective it is crazy to sell Gallagher in particular though
I'm a Chelsea fan, I’vewatched literally every match this season.Allthough keeping him would’ve made sense i would like the board to go with someone they agree with on major points (regardless of the route they intend to take)
Some of the errors that might’ve cost him his position :
-let down his pre-season principles just after 3 winless games(brings them back & we win5 consécutives games)
-chilwell as a winger
-Enzo in the 10
-Gallagher winger
-Catastrophic substitutions
-Cataclysmic match management
-nonsensical team composition numerous times
-Unable to beat Middlesbourough who had 16 injured players
-Refuses to change his training methods despite the fact that the club brought in specialists who questioned his method regarding players injuries
-Brings players back from injuries directly into group training despite the instructions of the medical department
-Draw against Sheffield United who have conceded 104 goals this season
-Draw against a 10 man burnley side
-Final vs Liverpool
-Refuses the addition of a set-piece coach when we are the worst team in the Premier League in that domain
-The team is doing poorly 80% of the season but he changes absolutely nothing in his system before the last 5 games
-Incompatibility of its system with players that the club considers central to the project: Colwill and Enzo
-System centered on Conor Gallagher
-Disagreement with the board over Gallagher's place in the project
-The ian maatsen case
-Management of Academy players
- Asks for transfer power when he asked for dybala ugarte and lautaro and did not want to palmer
Sacking him is not a stupid décision depending of Who you Will replace him with
Hey just wondering, who are you supporting in the champions league?
McKenna's agent is supposedly pushing for Chelsea, but you'd have to wonder if the framework is there for him to succeed rather than follow their previous managers onto the scrapheap after 9 months.
He's a Man United fan, and was assistant manager there under Mourinho and Solskjaer. If Ten Hag goes and they come knocking, McKenna ends up at Old Trafford.
That's a choice between two basket cases... Neither club does a good job with recruitment and I don't think either would let him take over that aspect, he'd be better off waiting for a well run mid-table club than either of those two!
Poch wasn’t given much say in transfers and there were sources stating that he wanted assurances on certain players not getting sold, more say in transfers, more experienced players in the transfer policy, and a contract extension. All of this seems pretty reasonable, and as a Chelsea fan who follows this very closely, definitely for the better of the club
Does Boehly actually grasp the rules on HomeGrown players? That's the most bizarre thing about his transfer strategy, I don't think Madueke qualifies for example as he spent that time out in the Netherlands. He seems to want to be seen to make a big signing each year and will sell off the HG players to do it, even though that limits the club in Europe...
@@neilbiggs1353Madueke counts as a homegrown player for the premier league, though not homegrown for European competitions
@@neilbiggs1353 as I understand it, Gallagher and Chalobah are the only ones that can be sold for pure profit. After that they'll have to start playing Gilchrist and co more so they can sell them a year from now. This might be something Poch objected to, but in fact due to past decisions it's something that pretty much has to happen, otherwise points deductions and other fun stuff.
@@GuyJames They could sell the experienced players to balance the books - He does realise that when you keep buying big name players it tends to inflate the wage bill too? This 'strategy' feels like Jenga, remove the pieces you build on, keep adding to the top... They're probably better off getting a points penalty than doing the same thing as Man Utd where they've kept buying players with no real design. The points will affect one season, getting an older squad while potentially alienating the academy graduates feels like it has a much longer tail
@@neilbiggs1353 yes I agree. but at this point it looks like they are trying to avoid looking like they've been found out more than they want to run a functional football club
From what I read Potch wanted a say over transfers which the owners must have refused after all he’s done for the club so he’s walked, would love him to go Bayern to prove he wasn’t the problem
Chelsea fans knew it was a big possibility, if you go back to the last pressconferences of the season. The relation between poch and the board was a bit tense… could go more in depth, but that for be for another time
I think Poch knew what was coming and bounced.
"It's awkward don't really ask about it" best conference league description
thank you for the reminder of the Roman Empire, I didn't had a chance today to think about it, till you mentioned it.
what do you call a man in a hole?
What do you call a man outside the hole?
What do you call a man who puts the soil back?
Doug
Douglas
Philip
100%, exactly that. They fired the best man for the job, who was making progress and had momentum. It's going to get worse now, not to mention how treating managers like this will affect their ability to attract elite coaches, look at Bayern
We needa book Poch a Piers Morgan interview
As a Chelsea fan this is a completely stupid decision the fact that he gave us European football in his first season with such an inconsistent and disjointed team that he inherited and the board fires him because he didn't make Champions League is (in the wise words of Didier Drogba) a disgrace, a f***ing disgrace
I'm coping but the only thing I can think of that makes this make sense, is if poch was always meant to be a development manager to coach these players' mentality through the rough times, until they were ready to start having good seasons, and they think the time has come to bring on a more tactically focused manager.
nah, it's just chaos
As soon as i seen it i felt like Poch wanted out. Chelsea just seem like a shambles. Todd does the Abramovich and signs players the manager doesnt want, so i do feel there is a high probability that he doesnt want the job
Abramovich at least mostly bought players that could win consistently.
@@realwickedbrew i agree, i wasnt criticising Abramovich in fairness just comparing but Todds more the type of guy to pick the horse by the colour of the jockeys jersey 🤣
Everyone stopped laughing at them in the last month....at least we can do that again. Thanks Boehly. They are the new man u under glazers and i am a leeds fan so getting yo laugh at chelsea and man u is great and watching their fans be miserable about their clubs is fun too. Long may Boehly reign.
yes, I was getting worried that we'd have to stop laughing at them, thanks Todd. sell Palmer now and we can have a really good chuckle for the next couple of seasons
zealand: gonna take it to roman empire cause you probably haven't thought of that today
me who interrupted his fallout NV Legion run to watch the video: yeah, thanks
Lucas Moura is actually the curent champion of brasilians cup for sao paulo, he already won 2 or 3 trophyes here in Brazil
no good for Bayern then
Think Boehly and co watches Zealand. They heard him ask the question, what about Hoeness in his video a couple of days ago and now Chelsea are considering him.
He is coming back in 2 weeks to stamford bridge for soccer aid as well
Zealand saying gravitas instead of aura to make you think of the Roman Empire for today, only made me want to play Rome Total War.
It's not like Poch hasn't made any mistakes but considering recent form it's really weird that they sacked him.
What makes it bad is the new managers we are linked with.
Enzo Maresca is just another Kompany/Burnley situation.
We're somehow linked to Kompany aswell.
Ruben Amorim (my favorite option by far) was ruled out a couple weeks ago.
McKenna is amazing but still very risky as the jury is still out on whether he can do it in the Prem let alone a bigger club like Chelsea.
De Zerbi I have 0 trust in.
And Hoeneß also isn't super experienced and apparently decided to stick with Stuttgart anyway.
We're not linked to an option that fills me with hope and this really worries me. I'm a Chelsea fan and I genuinely fear that I wont be able to back the next manager from the get go and will have to wait until I'm won over. And I'm not the type of fan to hold grudges or not back anybody from my team.
I worry. More than I have ever.
I've never seen you this pissed over a decision and I totally agree.
But there is one postive in all of this:
Now we know that Chelsea not just happens to be a banter club, but that they active try to achieve that
I love Zealand history references
As a chelsea fan, it makes no sense and our owners are clueless. Yet, our club always has chaos like no other, so I could also see us somehow going on a title run enxt year. Honestly, at chelsea who the fuck knows what's gonna happen.
The 'mutual agreement' part is a known-hoax. Besides concealing the reasons for parting ways, it's also a way to conceal how much the coach receives in release clause fees. Because these fees are massive, coaches often don't get the full amount that comes with an official "fired" situation. They always negotiate a percentage of that fee and that's where the 'mutual agreement' part comes into play.
Well now apparently theres reports ten hag is leaving as well
jose would be a part 3
Chelsea love to recruit from Brighton. Wonder what De Zerbi is up to
Poch will be in the job center collecting his pay from Chelsea looking for his next job
I saw rumours that Poch would be out but I think it’s dumb. The guy turned around the sinking ship.
By the way I've seen the news and he has actually just been sacked and it was never mutual consent
Word on the street is allegedly Boehly took Poch out for a dinner the other night, Boehly apparently wanted Poch to stay but was outvoted by the others in the consortium, so he took Poch out for dinner to apologise for what's coming
I knew something was up when Poch didn't say goodbye to the fans, either in a 'see you next season' way, nor a 'it's been real, thanks for everything, goodbye' way. He just didn't say anything which means he knew he was leaving but didn't want to tip off the media yet with a big farewell scene.
@GuyJames it just doesn't make sense, why they did it now, if it was after the Arsenal game it'd have made sense, but they've won 5 in a row since, the timing just appears wrong, Chelsea look like more of a basket case of a club than ever now
@@mrmr5580 agreed
the truth is that poch wanted to keep gallagher and chalobah but thats not in line with the boards vision. this along with hand-picked metrics (e.g. how much we haven't utilized set pieces) is what caused a rift between the ownership and poch. boehly is the frontman and takes a lot of the heat, but i firmly believe this was a decision made by majority stakeholders like egbhali and co. i think the consortium hasnt seen eye to eye in a while hence they are now rarely seen together nor speak to the public in regards to one other. based on how things are going, i don't see a light at the end of the tunnel any time soon.
yes, this. if they sold Enzo for 60 million it would fix the FFP problem and everything could continue. but that would be a climbdown for the owners and as Z says, they appear to want to fly right through the Sun like Icarus on steroids. They'll probably get it right eventually, just by the law of averages.
Sooo Poch will be the new coach of Bayern Munich i guess
We are the eternal banter club and I gotta just be ok with that
it's like they were finally overcoming that tag after 2 years of chaos, but then the owners decide they actually prefer chaos (good shout from Z to mention Watford who are the only club that's more chaotic)
No Frog 🐸 😢
4:03 trust me I thought about the Roman Empire a lot yesterday and today….
Oh I think he was talking about the historical one.
Finishing 12th last season was a disaster. Finishing 6th this season is still bad. I feel like everyone's focus is on Chelsea's last couple of games, but judging the whole season, it wasn't good enough. The only problem I have with sacking Potch is lack of solid replacement on the market. If they hire some Championship coach, next season I'm going to watch every game through my fingers.
Clubs take a while to turn around, unless you've got a new manager in sync with the playing style of the recruited players. It's why Man Utd are in such a mess, there just hasn't been that continuity in transfer targets and manager playing styles. You probably need 18 months of a manager getting their type of players in to really judge them. Still not oversold on Poch, but I'm not going to draw negatives about any Chelsea managers of recent years!
As a Chelsea fan, I disagree. It took Pochettino 34 premier league games to adapt his system and trying something new (the game against Aston Villa on April 27th), up to that game we were dreadful relying on individual performances to win games. While our recent games were definitely an improvement, look at how quick Glasner has improved Crystal Palace in way less time than Poch. The problem isn't not having Pochettino it's more the names which are being rumoured to replace him. Personally think the decision to end his time was made after the Arsenal 5-0 game.
Man, that 5-0 was good. 60m down the drain, Kai Havertz scores again.
Agreed, we got 6th inspite of Poch, not because him. Nice guy but took him way too long to work out that playing Caicedo as your only midfielder doesn't really work
As you point out, billionaires have fragile egos, so there's always this dilemma, especially at Chelsea where you have basically people who were recently children fighting each other: you need someone with a bit of gravitas who is able to bring discipline to the situation. BUT of course this person will then go up against the billionaire and try to get them to buy the players they want etc rather than meekly accepting what they're given, because they have gravitas and are used to getting what they want. So billionaire has a meltdown and sacks them (Tuchel), or they leave because they know they are never getting what they need (what I think probably just happened with Poch). Potter was just never given enough time to pitch his tent in what was basically a hurricane.
The man who Poch embraced is actually the decision maker at Chelsea, so better luck next time.
The the of the hurricane is actually sick 😅
Lampard is still available
and will be for the forseeable
Poch (as did nagelsmann) wanted some say in transfers, owners just want a yes-man, head coach
He wanted control over player signings
They say Chelsea DOF and one of owners wanted to be the next Man City with insane possession, but Pochettino wanted, as he does, to go vertical on the pitch, and when he realizes it is impossible to do what he wants to do, he wanted to leave. He wanted to avoid "the next season". They say.
Whatever happened to Will Still?
Man got sacked
Rocking the Geylang shirt again are we Zea?
Not complaining. They have one of the nicer kits in the SPL
it was going too well, they had to act
that line bro lmao 7:00
This was the right decision idc what any rival fans might think
I'm so f****** pissed right now. Just when I thought my club was finally bouncing back, now we have to have growing pains with a new manager while they sell all the home grown players
yup, it's idiotic
27 seconds and no views… this dude needs to go for a run
Its just about time for the Euros, there will be some sackings and departures.
With how weird the manager market gets, he'll be in charge of France before we know it LOL
Ok, story time: Back in the day, i'm playing FM2008 and i'm 50+ seasons in. I'm managing Aston Villa at this point. Won everything multiple times. New season, we started slow, and the team is not quite good, but improving. I am in the last year of contract and my fate depends on what i'll win. Half way through the season the club is sold and new boss arrived. Eventually the team is turned around: we started winning every game, no injuries, the harmany is top. The team wins CL and PL in style. Season ended. My contract was not renewed, despite all this, the new boss wanted a new direction... wtf.... I took over the richest club then (Fulham) and kept destroying the game...
Oh, yeh you can't say which European competition Chelsea are in. It's dependant on the result of the FA Cup final. Which is also Newcastle's biggest game of the season.
I actually like poch. Might not be Chelsea long term manager but he was quite good toward the end of the season don’t know why they sacked him
I feel like Chelsea wanted to sell home grown talent for ffp and poch wanted to keep the players he had started to build around but the board have earmarked them for the 100 percent profit.
Poch agreed on arrival that he had no control over the roster. If he changed his mind, the owners and sporting directors didn't change theirs.
@@realwickedbrew I agree, which makes me think he pushed his luck a little hoping the end of season form available jobs out there maybe player support he'd be able to change something. i dont think its missing out on champions league this year
Yeah, but the HG talent is vital for Europe, and Sterling is ageing, and I don't know if Madueke is qualified. If they try to buy HG players from other clubs, those fees are going to be eye-watering!
Todd: well, Poch didn’t win the Super Bowl so I have to fire him. I need a Super Bowl winning coach.
Zealand, Todd is less and less involved with the club, he backed Poch recently and the people who fired him were the SDs and co-owner Eghbali.
he doesn't get the full say on transfers, its the co-sporting directors. He wasn't a fan of being a head coach. For example, he had a set-price coach forced on him which he didn't like
*piece
where will he take those lemons...
7:27
I will not, i repeat, i will not listen to any lucas moura slander about titles. Before he left for europe, he won the Sudamericana with Sao Paulo. And when he came back, he won the Brazil Cup.
Do you know how many titles Sao Paulo won in the between? ZERO.
He put tottenham in the ucl final basically by himself and then the title of this video left him in the bench for the final. It's not his fault that tottenham doesnt have a titles since we were in diapers
No such thing as mutual consent when it comes to employment, as the bosses usually go "we don't want you anymore but we'll give you a mutually agreed amount of money" that's all there is to it, poch wouldn't have said "I'm going nowhere" cos if he did then it would officially be classed as a sacking. Todd Bloated knew months ago before the upturn in form. Just my guess 😂
I think the issue is that the Chelsea manager DOESN’T get to sign whoever they want. All sales and signings are decided by the owner and the board, most notably sales, and I don’t think Poch was happy with that. Especially when it comes to home grown players such as Gallagher and Chalobah who Boehly seems desperate to sell
Sounds from Chelsea seem to suggest their empowering the green bar analysts who took issue with Poch's decisions (wrongly, who tf are they and what have they ever done?) like playing Enzo higher, (correctly) and playing more transitional (right decision) and Poch was apparently against the sale of Gallagher and Chalobah, but those idiots likely want to cash in on them and waste it on dross again. Good luck to Palmer next season, he had a good run with a manager giving him freedom to play, I have him scoring 11 goals total next season.
"At least we're not Chelsea"
...but you're Spurs.
man, that +19 stat is amazing. to outperform, even in that one regard, a team like Villa who had such a stellar season by breaking into the top 4, can only be seen as success. ok, Villa are at the top end of the league and the higher up the table you go, the harder and harder improving gets because it means taking points off better and better sides, but still, Emery's +7 improvement for Villa is being seen as an unqualified triumph, but +19 isn't enough to keep the job at Chelsea? madness...
Some of the +19 can be put down to missing out on Europe though - having those fewer mid-week games can help keep the nominal first team fresher for longer. Most non-Big 6 teams in Europe tend to perform worse than the season they qualified
@@neilbiggs1353 and also they had a terrible season last time, so improving a lot on that is probably not impressing the owners that much. it's more like 'we've spent a billion quid, why are we still only sixth?' (forgetting the fact that the EPL is actually difficult and top six is not at all a bad result with that squad)
Please make a video about Lorients almost miracle, where they won 5-0 to get even on goal difference but still got relegated
I know Zealand doesn't pay attention to the everyday sphere of Chelsea news, but this was not a surprise to us who were paying attention. Poch and the owners/directors don't agree on many things like transfer structure and despite results, this has been building. Not a shock at all. Like immediately after the season ended, the directors announce that Poch faves like Chalobah and Gallagher are for sale. So of course there's discontent. Poch doesn't want the players he likes sold and the directors just want a "yes man" to do as he's told.
This is exactly what I’ve heard from basically all the Chelsea Supporters that I know.
Chelsea will be a Championship club in under 10-years as will United. The only alternative scenario is one where the FA actually grows a pair, punishes City, relegates them and forces them to start the Championship season in -30 odd points where in the wake of this catastrophe, Arsenal enjoys a period of 2-5 years alternating Premier League wins with Liverpool and Newcastle while Chelsea and United restore their status just ahead of City’s return and establishing a new top 6 of the aforementioned clubs plus Spurs or someone else like Villa or Ham pending a gaffer appointment or two.
Perhaps he knows more than we do about upcoming FFP punishments.
I think it's more that they told him they have to sell Gallagher and Chalobah for FFP reasons. He said, why not sell some other players - the ones who don't fit my ideas rather than the ones who do - and they replied that they don't want to get humiliated like that and we'll get someone else in who will make those players work.
Where da frog manee 🐸🐸
Mauricio PochetiGone
I prefer Mauricio PochetiNOPE
I think this was a vibes decision. Basically everyone who's paying attention knows that this season was better for Chelsea compared to last. However, it didn't feel like it was better for most of the season.
I feel really sad for the players, they love him
Todd please stop destroying my club
As a Chelsea fan, I am upset that your first words in this video weren't "what the fuck".
Would be mourinho’s 3rd time btw
I like the content.. But I LOVE the thumbnails.
Every one of them is distorted and overly dramatic. Love em.
Love all the trophy jokes. Hilarious man. Never heard em before
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