@@almalone3282 Not even other races' standards, they're a purely matriarchal society lol. Even masculine Asari always considered themselves female by definition. These people have lost the plot entirely.
@@almalone3282 imo the she/they part is cringe not because it touches on gender politics. but because it does it in the most surface level way possible. it's like they're more concerned with looking progressive than actually exploring the topic/doing it justice.
As somebody who this game was allegedly targeted at, I hate the pandering, it's so patronizing, that very obvious "so what are the kids into these days" corporate distance from reality. There's so many good games that include marginalized groups without having a constantly glowing neon sign over their heads going "LOOK! WE"RE PROGRESSIVE!" Worst part is that rather than quelling the discourse between straight/queer or cis/trans audiences, it only brings the topic to the forefront, waxes poetically, and leaves. It's so close to how radical conservatives view people on the other side and how radical progressives often act (to the detriment of the people they allegedly represent) that I have to imagine the only consultants they could find on the topic were from those extremes. Like, nobody asked Greg from QA to give his 2¢ because he doesn't act gay enough for anybody to notice he is, and he's not going around like the town crier announcing it. The problem I see is that by pushing these ill conceptions, EA/Bioware are doing marginalized people a disservice. If I come out to people, the ones that played this game will already have a negative perception based on it; it would actually have been better if they didn't even try. That said, same sex couplings have become pretty widely accepted in games over the past ten years (again, with exceptions where poor writing fucked the whole thing up) so maybe EA/Bioware can serve as an example of "how not to do it" for the games that follow. Sorry for the paragraphs of consternation, I just thought I might as well add to the conversation while we're at it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@feebleking21 and yet, you don't discuss this nor do you make it clear you're not grifting and that anyone who hates minorities isn't welcome. instead you just waffle on using the same talking points in EVERY video about anything the grifters don't like. How telling.
the mis gendering scene is absolutely absurd and peak cringe. it is clear that the message was infinitely more important than the game. the sales will reflect what the customers want though.
Thanks for putting that honesty filter right at the very beginning, the comments claiming moral high ground pretending to not care about politics or being upset with the obvious angle you're forced to take with this game won't even watch it, kudos for not tip-toeing around the subject.
I wouldnt call decision and resilience qualities (having a backbone), masculine qualities. they are just a behavior we respect and like in a character. and in contrast being indecisive and insecure are not female qualities per se, they are just behaviors we dont want in a leader or a member of a war fighting party. in that sense is annoying how some of the writing in the game fails to show dragons age world through the characters behavior and we just get lines preaching an agenda
It’s not really politics if its characters look soulless and act generic. It’s just the Disney style of half ass queer inserting that I’ve seen in indie stuff handled infinitely better. They are lot less aggressive with their representation too, so you’ll barely notice just like people I met in real life. Examples: Signalis, Celeste, and Deltarune.
It’s like these DEI hires wrote down everything good in previous Dragon Age games, and avoided it all like the black plague. It was nothing short of self sabotage.
8:30 action is not masculine, feeling aren't feminine. JFC what is this teenage boy conception of storytelling. like what? who says this stuff?! like, literally go to any meeting of writers or creative writing class and say this and not get laughed out of the room "when its leaning into its feminine writing its just constant complaining"... oh... so... like what you're doing right now?! you can't make this up.
The people who teach and follow your "creative writing class" are those who made this game, and all the wothless shit that came out recently. Not a good example, not even for your sophism. The sense of feminine and masculine writing is obvious to anyone with half a brain, you just pretend not to get it to allow yourself to be outraged. At least I hope you do. You go back to your Reddit fanfiction now.
This is a good video man. Lots of people commenting without even watching the whole thing. Im a huge Dragon Age fan. Origins is one of my favorite RPGs of all time and i even have a lot of love for Dragon Age II. Its really sad to see this series fall so damn hard. They dont care about us and im glad people like you are calling this bullshit out. Wokeness aside its still a bad story and bad game. Its gotta stop somewhere. Keep up the good work 🤙
Although there is a habit that conservatives have to call too many things woke. The sole reason for that knee-jerk reaction is because of REAL examples of wokeness like this. Blatantly inserting an agenda into entertainment for the sake of virtue signaling. When people see so much of it even so much as a smell of progressivism in something can trigger that response. Yall act like things being woke isn’t a thing, it is, and it’s real. We are tired of the catering to the 1%, being talked down upon, lectured, and demonized for our views.
He's not wrong about the bad writing itself, probably, it's just that it's not bad because it's woke, it's bad because it's bad. If you think it's bad because it's woke, chances are, you have bad political opinions too.
13:40 *Modern Disney, when people say Veilguard is like Disney they mean the modern BS they did to Disney. Anything Disney like 2020 and later talks like everyone is a little kid that needs explaining.
filters people who don't watch the video, but judge on thumbnail+title. This guy may be the only guy on the internet who gave this game a fair video review lol
@@thebuddah1253 Did you watch this video fully? Not even half of it is related to modern american politics. The guy covered gameplay, story, level design, balancing etc It is a fair review. You know, the review that covers all aspects of a game?
People haven't even watched the whole video and are immediately jumping to conclusions. The game is genuinely woke, it's hammering in it's message over and over and over again. Almost the same way how they explain the same things basically every single time there is dialogue
Ok but "woke" is not necessarily bad inherently, and a lot of the core talking points of woke are objectively correct anyway. When a game badly handles things like gender, sexuality, representation, i don't call it woke, i call it "bad writing".
@onlymyself1234 agreed. Tho i see it as a term for the political agenda, so lgbtq, that these games try to push. I don't mind politics in games if it's done well like metal gear solid 4. A good example of a "woke" game that actually has good characters and story is tlou 2. Ellie is gay, but it works because the character is just written well.
The misgendering scene was cringe and most of the character stuff was too. You lost me on the facial symmetry point though. I just never got stuff like that. The Tolkin quote at the end sounds good. But every Time I hear something like that I just think about all the genuine arguments I've heard for Space marine 2 being. And I assure you the people making those arguments are natural is because I've seen arguments like that for decades now. Imo these people are just bad and making video games and don't really care. Perhaps they care more about the political agenda than the game. But overall, I still contributed to incompetence and laziness more than anything.
Usually I can't take seriously people who use "woke" to describe everything they don't like, but Veilguard is such a prominent example of poorly-written and terribly-implemented progressive themes, that it convinced me this term can be used to criticise garbage.
Let's say I agree with the girl about saying sorry and hoping it makes everything alright... What about people who do a quick ten and just assume it makes everything alright? You know, like she does. She hardly even acts as though Taash is in the room, let alone someone she is sorry for offending
I enjoyed the game for what it is.I don't too much play video games for stories anymore.The combat was fine but oh god the enemy variety was on a whole level of ass
@@Nictheidoitthe guy who makes ripoff joseph anderson videos and has never had a single original thought makes better videos than 90% of youtube? this is literally the definition of slop
Excellent review. Many bash veilguard (rightfully so) but cover only 1 or 2 things (usually the DEI agenda), while this is a fair game review covering all of its aspects.
My guess why the game doesn't have a mixed score on steam is that you need to buy it in order to place a review there. For me and others who saw the game for what it is, there is no reason to even buy it, and thus we can't write negative reviews there
yeh, ok, I'm out. You're doing a pretty basic and obvious textbook anti-woke grift thing. the talking points are just piffle. I'm out. Sorry dude. I liked your videos on Elden Ring/Dark Souls and Dragons Dogma but this is just silly. Like, maybe you need the money or something, but its such low hanging fruit talking points done a 1000 times, like "uNnAtTraCtIve wOmEn oN pUrPosE" seriously? Piffle.
@@adamp6320 hmm, seen you write this elsewhere. Almost as if you're more invested in spamming spite and dividing people than engaging with what they have to say. Not at all an obvious tactic from totally not bad faith peeps ;) cute, but not very smart ;)
Being woke is a thing. Just because conservatives have a tendency to overuse the word doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. In fact that knee-jerk reaction comes from REAL examples like this game. So many things have become politicized that the second someone even smells progressive talking points in entertainment it triggers that reaction. Artificially inserting a political agenda into entertainment is what “woke” is. It’s a thing, even if it’s overused and I wish it wasn’t.
@@echo1180 "conservatives have a tendency to overuse the word" its not overused, its knowingly misused and was stolen from the communities that created it to better describe their lived experiences and share knowledge about how to navigate an unjust world. You do know it comes from AfAm communities, right? The stealing of language created by the oppressed by their oppressors is an age old tactic. And I shouldn't have to explain why and how this works so well, and why they do it every single time. "knee-jerk reaction" cynical astroturfed industry that exists to distract from real issues. funded by all the usual suspects. "So many things have become politicized" everything is political. and its not 'politicisation' that these reactionaries have a problem with, its being reminded of anything that isn't them. again, its not "cis or political" "white or political" "male or political" and so on. "Artificially inserting a political agenda into entertainment" Show me a piece of entertainment that doesn't do this. Like, any, ever. In all of history. The status quo is not apolitical. Like, do you even historical/cultural analysis? "is what “woke” is." it literally isn't. thats what the word has been made to mean as I discussed in point one. You're doing the thing.
@@echo1180 sort comments by "newest" to see my reply. YT is hiding it as it does most of my comments when sorted by "top comments" or whatever. you should see it then. i'm not editing my comment into unreadable mess to have it get through
Being woke is a thing. Just because conservatives have a tendency to overuse the word doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. In fact that knee-jerk reaction comes from REAL examples like this game. So many things have become politicized that the second someone even smells progressive talking points in entertainment it triggers that reaction. Artificially inserting a political agenda into entertainment is what “woke” is. It’s a thing, even if it’s overused and I wish it wasn’t.
you forgot how to mentioned how half the time your companions scream the solution of the easy af puzzle at you or the game will literally put a freaking quest marker on the solution.
i doubt this kind of representation is even enjoyed by the target demographic whoever they may be, i hate the 'anti-woke' grift on twitter and 4chan but some things here wouldve been better made more subtle to not be abrasively pandering. its a jarring product even from a progressive view.
A whole generation of gamers now have higher standards thanks to baldurs gate 3. This was especially needed in the AAA RPG space since so many wanted to just become action games.
There's a fine line (which is often willfully obscured) between "this is corporate neoliberal pandering commodifying peoples identities" and "pandered to or not, those identities should not be featured or even exist in the world" One is fairly reasonable but more nuanced and requires an earnest defense of said people, the other is an insidious grift.
This is the first Dragon Age I didn't buy at launch. I was so turned off by the injection of the real-world dialogue into my fantasy RPG - but to be honest, since Origins, each game has gotten a lot worse. BG3 and W3 are great games, with gay characters and romances. This is not a great game. This is a terrible game, for all the reasons you've provided. Great video.
It's clear you did not jump on the anti woke grift. I thought you could've gone harder. You stated how you felt and you even finished the game to have full knowledge of what you were about to speak on. Of course there's progressives threatening to leave or unsubscribe. That's all they can do and they can't handle other people who disagree with them. Everyone they watch has to share their opinion. Don't ever be afraid to speak your heart. Never bend the knee. They don't respect you and demand you cater to them. Don't lose respect for people who have none.
3:24 What, no reference to the dual chainsaw bike swords? jokes aside, I had a feeling this game would end bad when I saw the trailers and the gameplay reveal. Haven't played it myself, but I'm glad I didn't. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to play some DA:O to scratch that dark fantasy RPG itch
There is no such thing as "being too negative" about Veilguard. It's a bad self-insert fanfiction pushed into an action game's body and forced to masquerade as an RPG from the Dragon Age saga. Absolutely unforgivable, considering how the fanbase had waited for 10 years to play it. [And this is coming from a female DA fan in her 20s - not that it should matter.] Edit: It wasn't the two Elven gods who created the Veil. It was Solas. He did this to imprison the 7(!!!) evil false gods and free the elves from slavery - this is Dragon Age Inquisition lore. It unintentionally made the elves mortal and destroyed their kindom which relied on the Fade. This was the basis for the "moral greyness". Solas feel guilty and wants to undo his "mistake". Where are the 5 other gods in this game? Veilguard doesn't adress that. The devs "kinda forgot". But you should've researched the lore a bit better if it's mentioned in the video several times. Kinda an L.
I mean, inquisition was well known for having a well written trans character, as well as more LGBT characters in the lore and game. I don't think "woke" themes are out of place in the dragon age world at all. The writing may be bad, but blaming that on it being "woke" or whatever buzzword you prefer is just wrong.
That soldier in Iron Bulls squad is well written? Can you share some of that crack you are smoking? Only quirky character that is written well in DAI is Dorian, Iron Bull legit went “oh yeah you know that obviously gender neutral squad-mate? Oh yeah they are trans and that is cool and okay, nothing wrong with that.” That is the most patronising and condescending thing to say. Definition of “woke” is what I just said and what Veilguard is, nobody has issues with any of that stuff in BG3 or Cyberpunk, there is a right way of doing anything and BioWare hasn’t managed to do that in any of their games.
A game can have trans and gay stuff on it without being woke, what makes something "woke" isn't the inclusion of said themes, it's whether or not it's preaching or intrusive to the overall story and in this garbage game, it is.
Can't tell if the critique of the political part comes from "Game bad because woke" or "Game bad because woke done bad". Since I haven't played the game nor do I have any intention of doing so, I'm not jumping to conclusions. Instead I want to share my take on "woke agenda" in video games. This might be a hot one tho. I appreciate that the LGBTQ+ community is being represented in more and more media. It's just the people writing the characters seem to lack knowledge and understanding of what it means to be trans and the struggle that comes with it. Or they write them like it's the only thing defining that character, ultimatly resulting in badly written characters. We just need them to be good written. For anyone who has seen The Last Airbender, imagine a duo like Zuko and Iroh but one of them is trans. They'd still be a absolute fire duo. Instead we get "Writter: Look at this trans character! Player: Cool, what makes them special? Writter: They are trans!" I feel like people are to quick to say "That character sucks because he's woke" instead of realizing its just bad writting.
Isn't "woke" itself "progressiveness done bad"? Regardless of what the "everything progressive is woke" and the "woke doesn't mean anything" crowds say, that seems to be the most common definition.
I don’t really get why you don‘t just critisize the really bad implementation of certain political topics, but the topics itself. As a fan and regular viewer who is pretty progressive, this is alienating tbh.
I hope you get the help you need, game bad because woke was not what I expected from a person who seemed to be able to form their own thoughts and opinions. Your understanding of gender actually got me rolling rn tho so thanks for that
@@homiespaghetti1522no it’s not because it’s a video game with fake people and a fake world. We should talk about bad game design or gameplay not that it had trans or gay people
Fucking clown comment right here. The fact people seriously are getting on their knees slopping up blatant political pandering and excusing it because people describe it as woke is ridiculous
You believe men can get pregnant. You're obviously not concerned with the truth, so why pretend to be discerning with your critiques? It's hypocrisy. Also, no one cares. Quietly go to bluesky with the others where you can stick your fingers in your ears and pretend self mutilation is healthy.
Are you one of the "everyone is in either two groups, mine or my enemies" type of people? Just because there are people who call everything progressive woke doesn't mean something that is blatant soulless corporate pandering shouldn't be called exactly what it is.
This feels like manufactured anger for the sake of clicks. Just a bizarre, confused mish-mash of generic “anti-woke” talking points. I think you will reflect on how embarrassing this regurgitation of hateful rhetoric is when you’re older and hopefully delete this video. Disappointed that this is your take.
The moment your critique of media unironically uses the word “woke” to describe what you don’t like about it, you’ve bullhorned your inability to express your opinion with nuance and poisoned your credibility greatly.
You want to talk about nuance when you think just because certain people misuse a term, any usage of it, even if appropriate, is unacceptable? Talk about irony.
Being woke is a thing. Just because conservatives have a tendency to overuse the word doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. In fact that knee-jerk reaction comes from REAL examples like this game. So many things have become politicized that the second someone even smells progressive talking points in entertainment it triggers that reaction. Artificially inserting a political agenda into entertainment is what “woke” is. It’s a thing, even if it’s overused and I wish it wasn’t.
"You aren't politically aligned with me. Take it back or I'm going to quit watching your videos I pay you nothing to watch and obviously enjoy. I'm also going to cry"
Maybe I haven’t been paying attention but seeing you put “woke” in your title hurts, not because i support the world view because I don’t but because the word woke is cringe in every situation
@@iwanttodiebutimtoobigofacoward I said what I said, maybe support is the wrong word to use but I do find myself not caring about gay or trans character since I don’t relate, either way those thing don’t make a game bad since there are so many other elements to a game
I’m not arguing that this isn’t a bad game or a bad implementation of politics in a game, but playing a video game where magic and monsters are real and then complaining that trans people existing is too unrealistic is pretty funny
Complaining in a world were people are killing other people to survive that these people would have time to care about mis-gendering someone is the point that is unrealistic; it is also not the world of Thedas that we have known for 3 games prior. It is the modern world with a self-insert character from one of the BioWare directors who identifies as they/them.
Being hated =/= you're right. Notice how the focus here is on apparently being 'rejected' for totally speaking the truth maaaaan, and not, on what the truth actuallly is. Almost as if certain defence their right to say something because they can't defend what they're saying. Cute, but not very smart.
@@justaquietpeacefuldance But it just isn’t. Anti woke has lost all meaning pal, it’s just yet another buzzword used by grifters to throw in with the others.
Responding to the comment about 4 minutes in about difficulty: You can literally customise the difficulty. After 20 hours I turned down enemy health, but turned up enemy damage for the exact issues that you described and my feelings about the combat improved a decent amount. Enemy variety is still poor, but the combat felt better. You don't have to turn everything independently down to ultra easy.
How did you like Metaphor Refantazio, a game about fighting for the political equality of minority groups, if the existence of minorities in video games bothers you this much? I think you missed the point of your favorite JRPG
@@collin2401 Writing goes far beyond just the dialogue. So no, I wouldn't keep the characters, I would scratch everything. And then, in the new script, include proper representation.
My guy looked at the views Asmongold gets and thought "please sir can I have some crumbs"
Time to bust out the popcorn and skim the comments.
After this, I have zero hopes for the next Mass Effect...
Tabletop has Liara going by she/they pronouns even though Asari are a monogendered species and are all female by other races standards.
@@almalone3282 Not even other races' standards, they're a purely matriarchal society lol. Even masculine Asari always considered themselves female by definition. These people have lost the plot entirely.
@Seoul_Soldier The term "woman" didn't even exist before they met the other races. They just referred to themselves as Asari.
@@almalone3282
imo the she/they part is cringe not because it touches on gender politics. but because it does it in the most surface level way possible. it's like they're more concerned with looking progressive than actually exploring the topic/doing it justice.
As somebody who this game was allegedly targeted at, I hate the pandering, it's so patronizing, that very obvious "so what are the kids into these days" corporate distance from reality. There's so many good games that include marginalized groups without having a constantly glowing neon sign over their heads going "LOOK! WE"RE PROGRESSIVE!"
Worst part is that rather than quelling the discourse between straight/queer or cis/trans audiences, it only brings the topic to the forefront, waxes poetically, and leaves. It's so close to how radical conservatives view people on the other side and how radical progressives often act (to the detriment of the people they allegedly represent) that I have to imagine the only consultants they could find on the topic were from those extremes. Like, nobody asked Greg from QA to give his 2¢ because he doesn't act gay enough for anybody to notice he is, and he's not going around like the town crier announcing it.
The problem I see is that by pushing these ill conceptions, EA/Bioware are doing marginalized people a disservice. If I come out to people, the ones that played this game will already have a negative perception based on it; it would actually have been better if they didn't even try.
That said, same sex couplings have become pretty widely accepted in games over the past ten years (again, with exceptions where poor writing fucked the whole thing up) so maybe EA/Bioware can serve as an example of "how not to do it" for the games that follow.
Sorry for the paragraphs of consternation, I just thought I might as well add to the conversation while we're at it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
There's a difference between representation and good representation.
Good comment
@@feebleking21 Exactly! Thanks for summarizing my waffling in eight words xD
@@feebleking21If just this would have been the content of your critique I would absolutely agree, but it wasnt.
@@feebleking21 and yet, you don't discuss this nor do you make it clear you're not grifting and that anyone who hates minorities isn't welcome. instead you just waffle on using the same talking points in EVERY video about anything the grifters don't like. How telling.
the mis gendering scene is absolutely absurd and peak cringe. it is clear that the message was infinitely more important than the game. the sales will reflect what the customers want though.
Appreciate the honesty, ignore the people who have hurt feelings
Thanks for putting that honesty filter right at the very beginning, the comments claiming moral high ground pretending to not care about politics or being upset with the obvious angle you're forced to take with this game won't even watch it, kudos for not tip-toeing around the subject.
I wouldnt call decision and resilience qualities (having a backbone), masculine qualities. they are just a behavior we respect and like in a character. and in contrast being indecisive and insecure are not female qualities per se, they are just behaviors we dont want in a leader or a member of a war fighting party. in that sense is annoying how some of the writing in the game fails to show dragons age world through the characters behavior and we just get lines preaching an agenda
This game is what radical conservatives thought DA: Inquisition was.
It’s not really politics if its characters look soulless and act generic. It’s just the Disney style of half ass queer inserting that I’ve seen in indie stuff handled infinitely better. They are lot less aggressive with their representation too, so you’ll barely notice just like people I met in real life. Examples: Signalis, Celeste, and Deltarune.
Leftist politics in modern media create this.
If you dont look into it, you wont even notice any queerness in Celeste
Well at least you got Metaphor as a palette cleanser between the slop this year. Although that might just make the slop seem that much worse.
It’s like these DEI hires wrote down everything good in previous Dragon Age games, and avoided it all like the black plague.
It was nothing short of self sabotage.
This game sucks, what we need, ir more darksouls 2, the best game ever conceived by Christianity
I also drink shrek
8:30 action is not masculine, feeling aren't feminine. JFC
what is this teenage boy conception of storytelling. like what? who says this stuff?! like, literally go to any meeting of writers or creative writing class and say this and not get laughed out of the room
"when its leaning into its feminine writing its just constant complaining"... oh... so... like what you're doing right now?! you can't make this up.
The people who teach and follow your "creative writing class" are those who made this game, and all the wothless shit that came out recently. Not a good example, not even for your sophism.
The sense of feminine and masculine writing is obvious to anyone with half a brain, you just pretend not to get it to allow yourself to be outraged. At least I hope you do.
You go back to your Reddit fanfiction now.
This is a good video man. Lots of people commenting without even watching the whole thing. Im a huge Dragon Age fan. Origins is one of my favorite RPGs of all time and i even have a lot of love for Dragon Age II. Its really sad to see this series fall so damn hard. They dont care about us and im glad people like you are calling this bullshit out. Wokeness aside its still a bad story and bad game. Its gotta stop somewhere. Keep up the good work 🤙
Oh god not you too :( I really hope you can grow as a person and realize the real problems with the world and not just call it “woke”
Although there is a habit that conservatives have to call too many things woke. The sole reason for that knee-jerk reaction is because of REAL examples of wokeness like this. Blatantly inserting an agenda into entertainment for the sake of virtue signaling. When people see so much of it even so much as a smell of progressivism in something can trigger that response. Yall act like things being woke isn’t a thing, it is, and it’s real. We are tired of the catering to the 1%, being talked down upon, lectured, and demonized for our views.
I would and want to watch this but using the word woke every 30 seconds like I’m on Fox News or something I think I’ll pass
>Gets criticized once
>Immediately starts grifting
A story as old as time....
This game would be good if you had to collect 20 levels of scadutree blessings
I really enjoyed the parts where you talk about the game mechanics and level design. Great job
I like how none of the hate comments have any arguments abt where hes wrong. Dogmatism at its finest
He's not wrong about the bad writing itself, probably, it's just that it's not bad because it's woke, it's bad because it's bad. If you think it's bad because it's woke, chances are, you have bad political opinions too.
Bro if people leave cause of your opinion then they weren't real fans in the first place
hmm, not at all suspect to imply loyalty is more valuable than honest critique. doesn't build a bubble at all does it?
depends on the opinion
13:40 *Modern Disney, when people say Veilguard is like Disney they mean the modern BS they did to Disney. Anything Disney like 2020 and later talks like everyone is a little kid that needs explaining.
Stand strong king, this video is a filter for those who werent fans of you in the first place
filters people who don't watch the video, but judge on thumbnail+title. This guy may be the only guy on the internet who gave this game a fair video review lol
@@theyellowarchitect4504 honestly? Fair in the sense that he is actually addressing the politics crap. Love him or hate him Synthetic man did it too.
@@thebuddah1253 Did you watch this video fully? Not even half of it is related to modern american politics. The guy covered gameplay, story, level design, balancing etc
It is a fair review. You know, the review that covers all aspects of a game?
@@theyellowarchitect4504 yah and a majority of the popular videos on the game ONLY cover those things
People haven't even watched the whole video and are immediately jumping to conclusions. The game is genuinely woke, it's hammering in it's message over and over and over again. Almost the same way how they explain the same things basically every single time there is dialogue
Ok but "woke" is not necessarily bad inherently, and a lot of the core talking points of woke are objectively correct anyway. When a game badly handles things like gender, sexuality, representation, i don't call it woke, i call it "bad writing".
@onlymyself1234 agreed. Tho i see it as a term for the political agenda, so lgbtq, that these games try to push. I don't mind politics in games if it's done well like metal gear solid 4. A good example of a "woke" game that actually has good characters and story is tlou 2. Ellie is gay, but it works because the character is just written well.
This might be the worst year for gaming in a hot minute
Great year for jrpgs and Indies, you gotta branch out
@@matt-mel Every year is a good year for indies tbh.
SOTE saved it for me.
@@matt-mel wow the 40th metroidvania about depression was amazing
@@thebuddah1253 factorio space age released last month my dude.
lol when he realized his commentary was just flat out worthless he swaps to whatever this is
pivoting to grifter slop in a desperate attempt to get more views, pathetic
His commentary is generally spot on. People just get mad when someone criticises a popular thing.
The misgendering scene was cringe and most of the character stuff was too. You lost me on the facial symmetry point though. I just never got stuff like that.
The Tolkin quote at the end sounds good. But every Time I hear something like that I just think about all the genuine arguments I've heard for Space marine 2 being. And I assure you the people making those arguments are natural is because I've seen arguments like that for decades now.
Imo these people are just bad and making video games and don't really care. Perhaps they care more about the political agenda than the game. But overall, I still contributed to incompetence and laziness more than anything.
the devs for this game all had blue hair
Usually I can't take seriously people who use "woke" to describe everything they don't like, but Veilguard is such a prominent example of poorly-written and terribly-implemented progressive themes, that it convinced me this term can be used to criticise garbage.
Let's say I agree with the girl about saying sorry and hoping it makes everything alright... What about people who do a quick ten and just assume it makes everything alright? You know, like she does. She hardly even acts as though Taash is in the room, let alone someone she is sorry for offending
Bioware should have named this game "Taash" because it is the only thing the developers care about. "Taash" would have sold less than 100,000 copies.
I enjoyed the game for what it is.I don't too much play video games for stories anymore.The combat was fine but oh god the enemy variety was on a whole level of ass
Time to consume my feeble king slop 🤤
Much better content than 90% of youtube.
@@Nictheidoitthe guy who makes ripoff joseph anderson videos and has never had a single original thought makes better videos than 90% of youtube? this is literally the definition of slop
@@skoop4477 Modern UA-cam content is so bad that being "Joseph Anderson Jr." is a compliment.
Excellent review. Many bash veilguard (rightfully so) but cover only 1 or 2 things (usually the DEI agenda), while this is a fair game review covering all of its aspects.
One time popcorn for the video, one time for the comments. goated content right here lads
My guess why the game doesn't have a mixed score on steam is that you need to buy it in order to place a review there. For me and others who saw the game for what it is, there is no reason to even buy it, and thus we can't write negative reviews there
To me, Veilguard and parts of inquisition don't exist to me.
yeh, ok, I'm out. You're doing a pretty basic and obvious textbook anti-woke grift thing. the talking points are just piffle. I'm out. Sorry dude. I liked your videos on Elden Ring/Dark Souls and Dragons Dogma but this is just silly. Like, maybe you need the money or something, but its such low hanging fruit talking points done a 1000 times, like "uNnAtTraCtIve wOmEn oN pUrPosE" seriously? Piffle.
Not an airport. No need to announce your departure. Bye.
@@adamp6320 hmm, seen you write this elsewhere. Almost as if you're more invested in spamming spite and dividing people than engaging with what they have to say. Not at all an obvious tactic from totally not bad faith peeps ;)
cute, but not very smart ;)
Being woke is a thing. Just because conservatives have a tendency to overuse the word doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. In fact that knee-jerk reaction comes from REAL examples like this game. So many things have become politicized that the second someone even smells progressive talking points in entertainment it triggers that reaction. Artificially inserting a political agenda into entertainment is what “woke” is. It’s a thing, even if it’s overused and I wish it wasn’t.
@@echo1180 "conservatives have a tendency to overuse the word"
its not overused, its knowingly misused and was stolen from the communities that created it to better describe their lived experiences and share knowledge about how to navigate an unjust world. You do know it comes from AfAm communities, right? The stealing of language created by the oppressed by their oppressors is an age old tactic. And I shouldn't have to explain why and how this works so well, and why they do it every single time.
"knee-jerk reaction"
cynical astroturfed industry that exists to distract from real issues. funded by all the usual suspects.
"So many things have become politicized"
everything is political. and its not 'politicisation' that these reactionaries have a problem with, its being reminded of anything that isn't them. again, its not "cis or political" "white or political" "male or political" and so on.
"Artificially inserting a political agenda into entertainment"
Show me a piece of entertainment that doesn't do this. Like, any, ever. In all of history. The status quo is not apolitical. Like, do you even historical/cultural analysis?
"is what “woke” is."
it literally isn't. thats what the word has been made to mean as I discussed in point one. You're doing the thing.
@@echo1180 sort comments by "newest" to see my reply. YT is hiding it as it does most of my comments when sorted by "top comments" or whatever. you should see it then.
i'm not editing my comment into unreadable mess to have it get through
it did get mixed reviews at first on steam, rose over night from around 65% to around 79%, went pretty fast.
FFS FeebleKing not you too with this anti-woke bs😡
Being woke is a thing. Just because conservatives have a tendency to overuse the word doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. In fact that knee-jerk reaction comes from REAL examples like this game. So many things have become politicized that the second someone even smells progressive talking points in entertainment it triggers that reaction. Artificially inserting a political agenda into entertainment is what “woke” is. It’s a thing, even if it’s overused and I wish it wasn’t.
you forgot how to mentioned how half the time your companions scream the solution of the easy af puzzle at you or the game will literally put a freaking quest marker on the solution.
The inquisitor romance ending was pretty ok...still...
i doubt this kind of representation is even enjoyed by the target demographic whoever they may be, i hate the 'anti-woke' grift on twitter and 4chan but some things here wouldve been better made more subtle to not be abrasively pandering. its a jarring product even from a progressive view.
Define grift lol. Grifting is about being dishonest. Do you think he doesn't actually believe these things?
I want to like it. Almost want to make excuses for it. But i cannot. It is just a bad game.
This game was doomed to fail in a post baldur's gate 3 world but grabbed a shovel and dug deeper somehow.
A whole generation of gamers now have higher standards thanks to baldurs gate 3. This was especially needed in the AAA RPG space since so many wanted to just become action games.
There's a fine line (which is often willfully obscured) between "this is corporate neoliberal pandering commodifying peoples identities" and "pandered to or not, those identities should not be featured or even exist in the world"
One is fairly reasonable but more nuanced and requires an earnest defense of said people, the other is an insidious grift.
Well said.
at this point, I'm just waiting to buy it at discount, and play it while just treating this as comedy (copium)
This is the first Dragon Age I didn't buy at launch. I was so turned off by the injection of the real-world dialogue into my fantasy RPG - but to be honest, since Origins, each game has gotten a lot worse. BG3 and W3 are great games, with gay characters and romances. This is not a great game. This is a terrible game, for all the reasons you've provided. Great video.
You ever play Forespoken? :)
It's clear you did not jump on the anti woke grift. I thought you could've gone harder. You stated how you felt and you even finished the game to have full knowledge of what you were about to speak on. Of course there's progressives threatening to leave or unsubscribe. That's all they can do and they can't handle other people who disagree with them. Everyone they watch has to share their opinion. Don't ever be afraid to speak your heart. Never bend the knee. They don't respect you and demand you cater to them. Don't lose respect for people who have none.
3:24 What, no reference to the dual chainsaw bike swords?
jokes aside, I had a feeling this game would end bad when I saw the trailers and the gameplay reveal. Haven't played it myself, but I'm glad I didn't.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to play some DA:O to scratch that dark fantasy RPG itch
Patrick weekes should be disappointed
He failed
There is no such thing as "being too negative" about Veilguard.
It's a bad self-insert fanfiction pushed into an action game's body and forced to masquerade as an RPG from the Dragon Age saga.
Absolutely unforgivable, considering how the fanbase had waited for 10 years to play it.
[And this is coming from a female DA fan in her 20s - not that it should matter.]
Edit: It wasn't the two Elven gods who created the Veil. It was Solas. He did this to imprison the 7(!!!) evil false gods and free the elves from slavery - this is Dragon Age Inquisition lore. It unintentionally made the elves mortal and destroyed their kindom which relied on the Fade. This was the basis for the "moral greyness". Solas feel guilty and wants to undo his "mistake".
Where are the 5 other gods in this game? Veilguard doesn't adress that. The devs "kinda forgot".
But you should've researched the lore a bit better if it's mentioned in the video several times. Kinda an L.
the game just looks so dull that the only value it has is youtube content.
I mean, inquisition was well known for having a well written trans character, as well as more LGBT characters in the lore and game. I don't think "woke" themes are out of place in the dragon age world at all. The writing may be bad, but blaming that on it being "woke" or whatever buzzword you prefer is just wrong.
That soldier in Iron Bulls squad is well written? Can you share some of that crack you are smoking? Only quirky character that is written well in DAI is Dorian, Iron Bull legit went “oh yeah you know that obviously gender neutral squad-mate? Oh yeah they are trans and that is cool and okay, nothing wrong with that.” That is the most patronising and condescending thing to say. Definition of “woke” is what I just said and what Veilguard is, nobody has issues with any of that stuff in BG3 or Cyberpunk, there is a right way of doing anything and BioWare hasn’t managed to do that in any of their games.
A game can have trans and gay stuff on it without being woke, what makes something "woke" isn't the inclusion of said themes, it's whether or not it's preaching or intrusive to the overall story and in this garbage game, it is.
hey, I think synthetic man hacked your account.
What Bioware IP isn't trying to scrape it's way out of a coffin
probably
this video’s funny as hell
You're being too courteous to people who don't share your opinion. Call them names.
Can't tell if the critique of the political part comes from "Game bad because woke" or "Game bad because woke done bad". Since I haven't played the game nor do I have any intention of doing so, I'm not jumping to conclusions. Instead I want to share my take on "woke agenda" in video games. This might be a hot one tho.
I appreciate that the LGBTQ+ community is being represented in more and more media. It's just the people writing the characters seem to lack knowledge and understanding of what it means to be trans and the struggle that comes with it. Or they write them like it's the only thing defining that character, ultimatly resulting in badly written characters.
We just need them to be good written. For anyone who has seen The Last Airbender, imagine a duo like Zuko and Iroh but one of them is trans. They'd still be a absolute fire duo. Instead we get "Writter: Look at this trans character! Player: Cool, what makes them special? Writter: They are trans!"
I feel like people are to quick to say "That character sucks because he's woke" instead of realizing its just bad writting.
Isn't "woke" itself "progressiveness done bad"? Regardless of what the "everything progressive is woke" and the "woke doesn't mean anything" crowds say, that seems to be the most common definition.
I don’t really get why you don‘t just critisize the really bad implementation of certain political topics, but the topics itself. As a fan and regular viewer who is pretty progressive, this is alienating tbh.
Good, leave
@ A capital letter „G“ Gamer as I see lmfao
for real, max
Progressivism is a train with no breaks, already going quite fast.
People are just in the way...
Go pull a Bharv.
"yes, sarcastic yes, angry yes, or "I'm trans"" XD
I hope you get the help you need, game bad because woke was not what I expected from a person who seemed to be able to form their own thoughts and opinions. Your understanding of gender actually got me rolling rn tho so thanks for that
Came for the Elden Ring critiques, left because their brain broke. Onto the next youtuber I guess!
So games being full of political propaganda isn't a problem in your view?
This isn’t an airport bro. No need to announce your departure.
video is 30 minutes long and been up for 20 and you post after 10. ok
@@homiespaghetti1522no it’s not because it’s a video game with fake people and a fake world. We should talk about bad game design or gameplay not that it had trans or gay people
I come to you for videogame critiques not wah wah theres gays and women and black people. Its full accepting people wah💧💧💧
based
Fucking clown comment right here. The fact people seriously are getting on their knees slopping up blatant political pandering and excusing it because people describe it as woke is ridiculous
Yep unsubscribed, loved your dark souls videos but using the word woke immediately tells me all I need to know about you
You believe men can get pregnant. You're obviously not concerned with the truth, so why pretend to be discerning with your critiques? It's hypocrisy.
Also, no one cares. Quietly go to bluesky with the others where you can stick your fingers in your ears and pretend self mutilation is healthy.
not even gonna hear him out?
It’s really disappointing. Jumping on the anti-woke grift is the most tired and lazy criticism, and it has been for the last 10 years
For me it’s less the word woke and more the fact that he’s reviewing a game as pointless as this one.
Good, we don't want cultists here.
Oh no, not you. Are you really one of those "wokeness" type of people? I'm so disappointed.
Get filtered
The majority agree with this opinion. But your pink haired avatar suggests you belong to the minority opinion.
Are you one of the "everyone is in either two groups, mine or my enemies" type of people?
Just because there are people who call everything progressive woke doesn't mean something that is blatant soulless corporate pandering shouldn't be called exactly what it is.
Get out of my recommended
This feels like manufactured anger for the sake of clicks. Just a bizarre, confused mish-mash of generic “anti-woke” talking points. I think you will reflect on how embarrassing this regurgitation of hateful rhetoric is when you’re older and hopefully delete this video. Disappointed that this is your take.
The moment your critique of media unironically uses the word “woke” to describe what you don’t like about it, you’ve bullhorned your inability to express your opinion with nuance and poisoned your credibility greatly.
100%
>someone uses a word I don't like
>all his 30 minute arguments become null
Never change, internet.
You want to talk about nuance when you think just because certain people misuse a term, any usage of it, even if appropriate, is unacceptable? Talk about irony.
Being woke is a thing. Just because conservatives have a tendency to overuse the word doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. In fact that knee-jerk reaction comes from REAL examples like this game. So many things have become politicized that the second someone even smells progressive talking points in entertainment it triggers that reaction. Artificially inserting a political agenda into entertainment is what “woke” is. It’s a thing, even if it’s overused and I wish it wasn’t.
I was a fan of your videos but calling this game woke and saying gending is a political issue, lets me know i should probably unsubscribe.
Don't let the door hit your nasty cheeks on the way out
Not an airport, no need to announce your departure.
absolutely agree mike
"You aren't politically aligned with me. Take it back or I'm going to quit watching your videos I pay you nothing to watch and obviously enjoy. I'm also going to cry"
Bye. Don't let the door hit you. You can criticize this game for terrible writing.
nt
Maybe I haven’t been paying attention but seeing you put “woke” in your title hurts, not because i support the world view because I don’t but because the word woke is cringe in every situation
wdym with you don't support woke views?
Wahhhh
Yet you probably call people fascists, yahtzees, racists, etc. Of course I understand, because I was once young and stupid too.
Don't like it, don't watch it bruh😊
@@iwanttodiebutimtoobigofacoward I said what I said, maybe support is the wrong word to use but I do find myself not caring about gay or trans character since I don’t relate, either way those thing don’t make a game bad since there are so many other elements to a game
I’m not arguing that this isn’t a bad game or a bad implementation of politics in a game, but playing a video game where magic and monsters are real and then complaining that trans people existing is too unrealistic is pretty funny
Complaining in a world were people are killing other people to survive that these people would have time to care about mis-gendering someone is the point that is unrealistic; it is also not the world of Thedas that we have known for 3 games prior. It is the modern world with a self-insert character from one of the BioWare directors who identifies as they/them.
I love you man,
Just wanted to tell you that.
and please try out nioh 2
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth"
- Plato
Is that why you all hate socialism?
@@idk-by3cp no, mother's milk made me hate it. Our grandparents lived through it, many died because of it.
btw slightly off-topic, but in which plato's book is this quoted from?
Being hated =/= you're right.
Notice how the focus here is on apparently being 'rejected' for totally speaking the truth maaaaan, and not, on what the truth actuallly is. Almost as if certain defence their right to say something because they can't defend what they're saying.
Cute, but not very smart.
@@satyasyasatyasya5746 the game is woke af, people despise it, and it didn't receive a Game Award nomination. Where's the lie, shill?
Yup, great video!
You are one of the best reviewers on this platform for me. Keep up the good work.
Dude, i really Like your stuff, but why jump on that „anti woke“ grift😭
cause it's an honest grassroot movment, not a grift. I know it's difficult to accept but you'll come to terms with reality.
@ 💀
@@justaquietpeacefuldanceI don’t think you know what grassroots means pal
@@adamziane1840 means an upward movement from the common people - and anti-woke is grassroot.
@@justaquietpeacefuldance But it just isn’t. Anti woke has lost all meaning pal, it’s just yet another buzzword used by grifters to throw in with the others.
Responding to the comment about 4 minutes in about difficulty: You can literally customise the difficulty. After 20 hours I turned down enemy health, but turned up enemy damage for the exact issues that you described and my feelings about the combat improved a decent amount. Enemy variety is still poor, but the combat felt better. You don't have to turn everything independently down to ultra easy.
How did you like Metaphor Refantazio, a game about fighting for the political equality of minority groups, if the existence of minorities in video games bothers you this much? I think you missed the point of your favorite JRPG
Maybe because the problem isn't minorities existing, but blatant and condescending pandering?
@flavionms Oh, so you would have kept the characters the same but written the dialogue differently? That isn't the vibe I got from the video
@@collin2401 Writing goes far beyond just the dialogue. So no, I wouldn't keep the characters, I would scratch everything. And then, in the new script, include proper representation.
I usually hate it when people call things woke but this game handles certain political topics so poorly that I don’t mind people calling it woke.
lol, they're so mad you used the word woke
methinks the lady doth protest too much
Just came by to say that this is the WORST youtube channel
Never thought I'd hear him use the term woke but this video was quite funny so I'm for it.
FINALLY someone just says it
Jesus Christ I did NOT expect you to land over there on the political spectrum, this is super alienating
That's what you get if you dont gatekeep your hobby, it gets destroyed. Another corporate sloppy floppy.
Thats what happens with all art under capitalism, it gets a soulless grift for profit. Nothing to do with gatekeeping
@@maxmustermann3717literally all art huh? Truly we must establish communism post haste, you are so enlightened 🙏🙏🙏
@@Sobachkaspike?
Facts my brother, the masses hate gatekeeping, but ive seen it time and time again how necessary it is