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8 reasons why hardtails are BETTER than full suspension bikes!
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2021
- Today we show you why hardtails are BETTER than full suspension bikes (sometimes)! Enjoy this video of Alfie sending his 29er Specialized Fuse hardtail in the pouring rain. Please don't take this video too seriously, but feel free to leave a like, comment and subscribe if you enjoyed it!
What's your opinion on hardtails? Let us know in the comments below!
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I have both, and have had both for going on like 25 years. My two cents and some is that hardtails are fast when the trail is flowy and smooth-ish, and they climb well of course under same condition. Where they simply cannot compete with FS is chunky terrain at speed. No comparison, no exceptions, they just cannot. Also, my back likes full squish better lol.
totally believe this, i’ve seen the way they ride in videos and from what people say the difference between enduro and trail bikes this makes sense
the wallet likes the idea of hardtail but my old back wants a FS
@@halfglassfull i ride hardtail but have back problems. i bought a suspension seatpost. costs less than $100. i never experienced back and lumbar pain after that.
Don’t you all lift your butt when it gets chunky … for heaven’s sake?
@@kejah7489does it have a dropper post.
I love hardtails, but can we just apreciate the mastery of this video? Quality content.
You do it by clicking on Like button.
I have a hardtail plus. Best setup imo. Much more engaging than full sus and more capable than most people think.
I just got a full suspension e bike with fox 38 factory forks and I like it better than hardtails by far . plus I kept getting pinch flats and went tubless then got bent rims, maybe it's because Im a lean 240lbs.. No problems on full suspension though but I mainly do it for a fun cardio because I train mma and you can never have to much cardio
Yeah, in my opinion, full suspension is amazing when everything is working well. My mate just bought a second hand giant reign and my goodness, it was horrid servicing it, definitely worth investing in some bearing fitting kits...
@@zed5129 well ya it's easier , thats why I turn it off while riding with certain people and I detuned eco so it's even with my regular bike. But I get more of a workout on my e bike even on turbo (if I'm by myself)because I'm trying to be as fast as possible and it's a lot more fun riding faster through everything and getting more air.. plus we have some trails that people never are able to climb and always walk up and I can get up it on my e bike . idk weird .. I get board on my regular mtb over the e bike . plus turning it off and trying to keep up with others is a hell of a workout , way harder than my regular mtb
@@rickywoods3101 If you're 240lb and lean you must be like 6'4+... Or you're just fat.
@@kevjay-med1225 5' 11" I have a pretty good 6 pack . I know it's hard to believe but I been working out 5 days a week since I was 15 and I'm 32 now.. send me your email and I'll send you some pics , I don't mind.. or you can just search my FB
I remember when you used to have that black hardtail, good shreds on that thing
Oh damn the trailstar, now that was a long time ago!! Must have been 2017 ish!!
Remember being disappointed when Will switched to the dark side and got his first full suspension on the channel haha
@@alexb2298 i did have a few full suspension bikes on the channel before that hardtail bro 😂 but dont worry, got another hardtail vid coming soon
@@willgreenfield it's those audio gains of chain slap from hardtail shreddy!
Funny enough I just got my first mtb and it’s black lol!
15 yrs on a ht, then 4 on full sus, I have found where and how you ride is the most important. Where I ride we have lots of fairly short tech climbs, and switchbacks which lends itself much more to a ht. When I rode out west with long dh's and larger drops fs was superior. Being "overbiked" is real. I am back on a ht and lovin' it! Both have their place, it really depends on your needs!! Cheers!!
I love hardtails but full sus also has something most people dont even recognize, its way more accessible to people with injuries, for instance my dad has an injury in his lower back and without a lot of plush suspension it can be too rough to ride some days
I found quite a few videos like this one. Saying this is better than that, TBH none of it matters, its what you like and what meets your needs. I'm just getting back into MTB as an adult. Can't wait!!
Exactly! I have a nerve issue in my lower back and from it my testicles hurts when I'm riding the hardtail bike. It's completely other story with the full suspension.
Sus
@@kijo6642 🤨
@@volf4o you need to adjust your riding style then. Shouldn't be on the saddle going over rough stuff.
just got my first aggressive hardtail to add to my quiver of full squish bikes and wow, i agree entirely. nukeproof scout 290 and it is an absolute blast. so far ive been able to ride everything that the big bike can ride, its just a bit slower on tech and makes you think harder about line choice which i enjoy. by far the best $/fun ratio i ever have had
Definitely going to make you faster mate!
I got my scout 275 in medium 2 weeks ago but am yet to go to my local trail to test it properly
I sold both my full suspension bikes as I just love riding my hardtail. I ride a Whyte 909 it’s lighter, faster and just a lot more fun out on the trails. Take care and happy riding guys. 👍🏻😎
"I just love riding my hardtail" sounded weird for some reason lol
I have a whyte 803 and its really good 👍
Just about to buy one !!
F'kin brilliantly funny .. particularly liked the total randomness of "on Wednesdays" 4:08 😂😂
haha thank you bruh, glad it made someone laugh :') Cheers for watching as always!
I've seen Alfie shredding down a local trail on that thing, the guy flies! Awesome video and makes so much sense in UK winter months
I’m jealous of you young guys. I have a 20 lb tricked out carbon HT that I love but can’t ride because it wrecks my joints. Totally takes the fun out knowing I’ll be in pain for a few days. It’s full suspension or die for me.
Thats one of the reasons i stopped riding a hardtail as my main bike a few years back, was wrecking my wrists and ankles! Full sus is definitely a lot more comfortable...
I like hardtails just because how they're so simple yet effective, however after I moved past the beginner hardtail (different to a 'real' hardtail) I couldn't have progressed nearly as fast or far without my full squish
Wuuutt?? Hardtails are actually better for improving your skills and progression.
@@arkitotoyz Not necessarily, everyone improves differently. HT's make you think more and force you to be more careful, but they also hold you back and make you less confident.
@@OliCM3 uhhh no they don’t, i have just as much confidence on my ht as I do on any full.
@@butterybird4987 Like I said, everyone improves differently, its all preference.
If you tried to take a HT down the runs I'm talking about, you'd break your legs
@@OliCM3 let’s bring him to Moab he will think differently
Gotta love Alife and his Hardtails aha! Sick video WIll!
It's just a matter of opinion on what you like as far as full suspension and hardtail. For competition though you're probably correct hardtail is probably better . I'm willing to sacrifice a few of the plusses of a hardtail for ; the comfort, landings and bumps that are absorbed from a full suspension Bike
“They’re impossible to crash”
2 seconds later crashes 😂
Bro lost me with the Mike Tyson clip “what do you mean by that?” “My back is broken” 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
A classic
One of the great things about hardtails is you can run them single speed. Especially if they're like that Fuse with sliding dropouts.
why can't you do that with full suspension? sorry am a beginner
@@Simon-jh1hf it's possible too, but less desirable. You would still have to run a tensioner or derailleur to keep the chain tensioned. Advantage of single speed on a hardtail is a huge weight savings on the rear. Lighter rear end and faster acceleration.
Alfie’s got some really impressive skills! 🙌
#1 I'm broke
Nice fuse! I've got a fathom and they ride very similar. Favourite bike I've ever had.
Why’d I think this was a BermPeak vid ?? 😂 sick vid though bro !
I'm going to have to start building some backyard trails soon then haha!! Thanks bro :)
It's the bike placement and yellow font! Also had me for a moment
M4 Fuse ftw. It's the best bike I've owned. Hose it off on the rack when I get home and oil the chain. At 210 lbs I would decimate a full squish plastic bike. Great video.
I love ride the hardtail! I would never change with a full 🙌🏻
I got both soft and hardtails. When I'm feeling hardy I ride my hardtail plus bike and when I'm feeling squishy I ride my Softee. But I learned MTB thru hardtails definitely and I rode it for a good 8 years before I went for Softee.
The "steep technical climb" segment was hilarious!
I’m so hyped to have will greenie back with the uploads!!!! Keep it up 👍
I usually use my HT for fast flowing trails with light tech as that's what they excel in. The FS gets used for long rides and techy trails purely for the extra comfort.
I ride my hardtail mtb on paved roads but unfortunately with some cracks and bumpy holes with it. I do it for everyday exercise with my favorite techno and dance music in different bpms. I used to ride a roadbike on these roads with no suspension but I am a safety driver not a speed demon. Although fs mtb is costlier both in price and in maintenance than the hardtail mtb, I will still feel safer to ride on bumpy and hole paved roads using fs mtb. But like you said in the video about improving skills, I improved my maneuvers when encountering bumpy roads if I go fast on my hardtail mtb.
I just built a hard tail i broke all my pbs for the first time in ages. Clipless is a big no from me tho they make me ride conservative and flats are so grippy there is just no need
Switched to A Fuse from FS after 15 years and am happy with my decisions as most of the trails by my house in the Canadian Rockies are techy but not chunky like on a downhill track at the resorts. If I rode at resorts or Enduro like my daughter I'd ride a bike like her Transition Patrol which he rips on all chunky tech stuff.
My full suspension Scott spark can be used as a hardtail if you lock the suspension.
Swivel joint reinforcement still adds weight unfortunately, seems only the really expensive full sus carbon bikes come close to aluminum alloy hard tails.
I’m never gonna go back to a hard tail personally after being on a full squish but you do you
Hardtails ideal for me. I can only ride on weekends and it’s a lot cheaper to maintain. More fun IMO and I don’t need a full sus yet
Yeah i feel that, only disadvantage for me is the wrist/ankle/lower back pain that i got when i used to ride a hardtail... i'm guessing that doesn't bother you tho?
@@willgreenfield I don’t experience that no. But then again you probably ride harder and more often
When it comes to maintenance, my Merida rear suspension is bombproof. It doesn't need any maintenance, not even the shock. But it depends on what bike and brand you buy. For example, I know a guy with a 4000$ cannondale scalpel XC bike that has to replace his linkage bearings every season because they're shit. And Author used to make a full suspension bike whose linkage regularily broke after 2 years of riding. They even sold a spare rear linkage as a replacement instead of recalling and fixing it, the bastards.
@@diviscadilek1764 which merida?
Winter on the HT. Summer on the FS. If you're running FS all year then you better get used to paying £300 - £500 per-year on maintenance (assuming you're riding a few times per-week). FS doesn't build your trail skills either. If you've been riding FS for years and go back to HT you'll see why so many run both, HT's just so much more engaging.
I don't know if I'm a cheapskate...
I've cut my maintenance bill almost in half by switching back to a HT !!
And ... it's bloody fast , that's all that matters!!😈🤘🏻
Wow what a video, it's strange I have a strong urge to go and buy a 2021 Specialized Fuse Hardtail! Oh and an Alfie, I want to buy a few of those.
lol get ur Alfie now at the local Walmart, i heard theres a 50% off sale on last years models as they had some reliability issues
0:59 Woah i got scared, almost thought I saw; "Hey, its VSauce here!"
My guy has the matching inhaler/ shorts combo
Smooth, flowing trails with pump bumps & long climbs, can't beat a HT. Anything else and you can go on all day about how a HT makes you a better rider, the reality is FS is more capable, easier, more comfortable, a lot more confidence inspiring and generally more enjoyable. I'd urge every MTB rider to push for a FS
FS with LO option F and R ATW FTW
If it looks fast in the video then you know it’s really fast. Awesome!
Great review and loved the humor ! I subscribed! Cheers from 🇺🇲
I'm 67 and have both and they are both nice. A hard tail rides a bit better on pavement and smooth packed trails, not as bouncy as my full suspension. Full suspension rides better on rough stuff with less standing up. The real downfall to me of full suspension is the extra parts that may someday break. If I could only have one, I'd have a hardtail, but would want a full suspension.
Hi there I have 2 questions.
1 - is that a trail or xc bike?
2 - Did he use a mount piece like fighters do? And why?
Got a trek roscoe 7 2021 hardtail with plus sized tyres and it rides like a dream.. hardtails all day long.
It depends very much on the terrain.
What a lovely looking bike, nice stem!
This masterpiece deserves a like, greetings from Germany 👍🤟
thank you!!
I get the back issue thing. Train your core, legs and glutes in the weight room.
100% agree, but they are even better, when the frame is made of steel …🤘🏼
Definitely a quality video. It kept me laughing 😂and learning🤓
Love my Hardtail!
Yeah Buddy, Love this. Hardtail all the way.
Cheers bro!
The battle between the FS and HT's will never end. Until you see this video and realize that HT's fully dominate over FS because Part 5 - They're impossible to crash 🤣 🤣
Great job on the video. It was entertaining and well put together. Thumbs up.
Thank you Michael! Glad you enjoyed it :)
I like them all... Actually, I'm working on 3 FS and I would like to make them 3 different jobs, included Enduro and DH. In the other side, I've 3 HT, wiche a front and two FR, old school bikes. I'm riding, learning, performing, upgrading and customizing my humil and cheap honest Fausto Coppi V-Brake 26" with tube and 18 speed. I'm lovin it. It has no supspension for MTBking and it's straight with it's limits, included chain braking and brake problems. If I'll can, I'll put on it hydro discs, single crown and a better rear pinion, a better handlebar and seat and stick, and a more precize shifter with pads, instead the two rolling shifts. for this, it's anough. The others, maybe, I'll do similar with the Zoom-one front, with an XC version, and a simple daily Atala ride, to go A to B. The FS, I would Like a Trail bike, an Enduro and a more performing DH bomb, with an old and old styl 26 chassis. I don't have any 27.5", 29er or a drop seatpost, but, I think, I'll remain in the more handling 26" with tubeless i hope.
I agree with almost everything said. Big difference between USA an uk is we don't ride in the rain. Spode that would severely shorten your season.
Haha we would have no season at all 😂😂😂 thanks for watching bro
I've ridden fullsus on enduro race but find out I forgot to unlock the shock halfway the stage 😂.
So basically i ride hardtail and feel alright
that Tyson cut broke me 🤣🤣🤣
I haven't had a bike for 15 years. I'm trying to decide between a Specialized Rockhopper expert and a Polygon D7. Any advice. I'm 47 if that matters. Thanks for any help.
Well, can you park a fancy FS outside Sainsbury’s or your workplace?
Guy can ride!
He's handy on a downhill bike too!
I ride a hardtail on some natural technically challenging trails , I love it , want to get me a full suspension just for the heck of it
then get the lock out option later .. stay steathy
Ht is more fun. It makes simple blue trails actually fun and requires more skill to ride fast. If you can ride a ht, then you got some major skills
Amazing presentation, guys 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I have 12 cm front travel and 27,5+ tires. I am not riding Red Bull Lines and I am able to jump some bumps on high speed. So no need for a fully in my case...
I remembered when I ride my first enduro hardtail, those were happy days. Nice video!!!
the good old days!! Thanks for watching bro :)
I’m gonna be buying a Lombardo sestriere 400 soon , look forward to it
Sonder transmitter, best bike ever. Sold my giant Reign as wasn't riding it much. My full sus is now a Merida E160 so best of both worlds. BUT most fun bike is definitely the sonder
Cheers guys... That was awesome 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻⛈️⛈️⛈️☔☔☔🔥🔥🔥🥂🍾
4:06 Get a HT and you can win World Championships. Mr. Minn fear me!
Table of contents:
0:59 2021 Specialised Fuze (29”)
2:16 Hardtails roll fast (they’re light)
3:24 Hardtails improve your skills
4:17 Refine your jumping technique
6:26 Low maintenance
7:32 Impossible to crash
8:00 Strong and bump-proof
8:26 Great for climbing
9:14 Anyone can enjoy them
Maybe in that part of the world, but here in the U.S. desert Southwest, with it's chunky rocks.... I don't think so. Besides, I started on a hardtail and three years later I was on a dual suspension bike. My back thanked me for it.
hard tails have the pedals nearer to the ground which I like
your comparing a high end hard tail vs a high end full suspension
however and entry level hard tail is actually heavier in some cases vs a high end full suspension
Who didnt hear about the infamous cars only having suspension in the rear.... :)
Technology is a strange beast.
you don't have to purchase a hardtail to enjoy their benefits. you can just remove your current bike's shock, replace it with a section of galvanized rigid conduit, and go to town.
Very watchable video dude
Keep it up
I have a coarboradan hardtail but getting a specialised full sus in a. Couple of days I will never get rid of my hardtail
Love your video editing 👏100% enjoyed it
I’m 14 yrs old and I was born with a really weak back, i like full sus because on trials it’s just more easier for my back and smoother ride
right now i have an agressive hardtail from BTR fabrications : the Belter .
i love it a lot , but i guess couple of years down the road i'll get a Pole full sus if my back requires it
I’ve rode in Santa Cruz and the demo forrest my whole life and I remember when I had a hard tail. I would go so fast that my vision would shake and I couldn’t see shit. I’m on a nukeproof giga now
in florida where i ride, many annoying tree roots throughout all of trails... love my hardtail but am looking for full suspension to make it more comfortable...
Always such quality editing!
Thank you my slime :)
whats the frame size? this is a TANK what rolls everything over...
I only ride a hardtail because I didn't have the money for a fully
I’ve got the exact same bike, rides like a dream!! Great Video!!!!
Oh sick! Glad ya like it :) thanks for watching!
Hardtail > Full sus
you got one tho??
@@willgreenfield yessir
They are better for climbing because like you said early in the video..the energy isn’t lost through the suspension
Hi. I love watching this video. It's simple and the content is true it seem like no edit.. thanks for your video realizing that my imagination about suspension mtb frame is so good. ... I realized hardtrail is enough and good.... And less money for maintenance. Thanks.
Those are some impressive skills.
i had my hardtail for 3 months before i hit a gap crashed and bent the derailer so yea not so bombproof
I started riding on a Capra and it was cool cause I was riding a lot of park with now skills. I then bought a hardtail to practice skills and didn’t even ride the Capra for a while and had to get ride of it for a 5010 and now I haven’t ridden the hardtail in a while lol.
Hardtails are the best for learning! But full suspension will always be better for bike park/downhill/freeride thats for sure 😎
I own both, but I do like the full for easy climbing steep hills.
I just bought a cannondale trail 5 and hope to be so cool to ride as yours...
Hi rider! Good info. I'm still keep all my hardtail MTB (5 sets). No doubt, superb bike in any decent on trail. Regards XC rider from Malaysia.
Full suspension anytime anywhere anyplace period!
I’ve got the 2021 Fuse Comp as well great bike, I’d also like to share I bought some super un leaded today which will mean nothing next week 🤣
I bought a Orbea Laufey H LTD and put a lot of upgrades such as rotors, pedals, grips, tires, with total costs being around 4k CAD, and Im proud of that choice because for 4k , Id only get entry level full suspension, where as I got an amazing hardtail
What are you talkin about at 4k you can get a really good Full sus
@@liana.chawngthu Yea thats true but for me I was looking into less maintenance with extremely highend specs and components, so that worked out for me
I've had my Laufey H LTD for about 2 weeks now. Brilliant bike.
You are nice. I like your sense of humor.
That hard tail looks ace!!!
I totally agree. Good video. A question, which bicycle is the one you use?