Timestamps for our brave mobile memesters: 0:00 - Start 00:00:42 - Pxie's, Melanie's, Imreallyimportant's. Joshua's, JohnnyScarlett's, Destiny's intros 00:05:40 - First disagreement / vote not spent is a vote for trump 00:14:00 - Joshua's issues with Joe Biden 00:16:18 - Destiny accused of doing "The Destiny Thing" 00:17:32 - First attempt at trying to figure out what Joshua sees in Socialism 00:21:02 - Second attempt ^ 00:21:29 - Turbo round: guns, abortion, universal healthcare, coronavirus policies 00:25:04 - Third attempt 00:32:21 - Destiny tries to figure out what similarities Joshua sees in Biden and Trump (In policies? Governing?) 00:35:10 - "Are you running (for congress) just as a meme on twitter?" 00:41:10 - The bussing issue 00:47:10 - Getting the congress in order 00:53:08 - Inaction / Indifference towards social issues 00:59:55 - Trump vs Joe in the White House 01:12:50 - Part 2 ^ 01:16:10 - "Does it hurt your argument...how wrong you were?" 01:21:43 - Destiny presses Johnny on their thought process behind not supporting Joe 01:33:42 - Would Biden sign anything passed by Nancy Pelosi 01:38:50 - Destiny calls out Johnny on their "Obamacare was a flop" statement 01:44:25 - "I want to hear Joshua make a fucking argument" 01:45:10 - Intro clip / title 01:47:59 - Destiny rap gods how to build an effective socialist movement 01:53:47 - "My strategy pisses off people like Destiny" 01:55:25 - Talk shifts to Bernie 01:59:17 - Claim check: Bernie took his name off of bills he wrote/added to in order to get them passed 02:01:40 - Getting young people to vote / why did Bernie fail (grilling) 02:08:52 - Candidates Joshua would've alternatively supported (including a billionaire) 02:12:35 - Opposition of automated automobiles 02:22:13 - Conversation goes back to Biden and his sexual assault accusations 02:25:30 - Destiny and Johnny have a back and forth on Biden 02:37:15 - Would Johnny vote for Bush Senior / Reagan vs Bill Clinton (heat gets turned up here) 02:40:38 - "I'm asking you to have an actual principled non-weasily position on who we should vote for president" aka Destiny gives up trying 02:41:45 - How to convince the undecided voter 02:47:16 - Johnny answers what would change their mind 02:51:42 - Destiny memes Trump being re-elected 02:52:54 - Closing statements 02:55:53 - A vote for Biden is a vote against Destiny 03:00:55 - Post debate thoughts start here
I know, right? He seems so low-energy in this discussion, and so vague and unconcerned about anything that's brought up. He's literally handed the opportunity to sell his policies and platform, and what happens? He says he doesn't care about anything and comes across as a complete idiot.
@@Stillpate why do you think that? Biden can not defend anything because his sentences literally don't make sense. That's happening in extremely friendly environments. What do you think will happen during a live debate against Trump? Biden will be a stuttering mess. Trump even has to be careful not to stomp Biden too much or people will pity-vote against Trump.
DustyO'Rusty I’m not defending poor Joshua here, but I kinda feel like this is pretty much how it would go when most politicians, especially young ones, would fair if they tried discord with ppl who spend all their time researching and having debates. They just don’t have time and maybe the desire to educate the crap out of themselves. Weird.
@@DavEstra01 if you're a politician you should probably know more about your policy positions than twitch streamers who don't even do politics full time(ik some of these ppl do but Destiny doesn't)
@@DavEstra01 He's running for congress. The decisions he makes not only effect the community around him, but the entire world. It is his duty to create a platform that he not only has tangible beliefs in, but one he can accurately communicate to the average voter. Something like universal healthcare programs like M4A aren't rocket science. If he isn't willing to put in the effort of actually studying his platform, why should we take him seriously?
DustyO'Rusty I agree, however, out of curiosity can you point me to a non MSM interview of a politician with the same type of scrutiny that Destiny gave here?
@@DavEstra01 as other ppl have commented on this video the questions weren't that complicated. The overwhelming majority were pretty surface level and he was still struggling or failing to answer and defend his positions. I don't really see where destiny is scrutinizing him to an unfair or abnormal extent.
One of the best things about Destiny is he is clear about who he hates and why. You always know where he stands, even if that place is several feet lower than the rest of us. xD lol j/k all my love to the BMOC (big manlet on campus)
>I'm getting obliterated as I got exposed for lack of conviction and political knowledge while running for congress. >Ha! You just activated my autismo card!
@Unintended Consequences he literally refused to answer questions about what policies he supportsd and wants to enact - as a congressional candidate. That alone makes him seem very dishonest, at best, and a fucking moron at worst.
Josh: Independents perform poorly on every level Also josh: files to run under a newly formed party no one has ever heard of called "essential workers party" Make it make sense
Yeah moderator seems to have a habit of avoiding all confrontation I watched another one of her moderating and just tries to give even time to speak but not a back and forth of the opposition like people who like X speak three people in a row then Y people all speak and it’s basically the last and first speakers that count
Jake Smiff to be honest it's probably because Pxie is good friends with Destiny and knows how hard he can go and destroy his opposition. She probably realizes that they don't have any answers to Estebans questions and him dunking on them probably won't look good on her.
@@ito9666 Yeah he is but he had Josh on for a chat a couple days ago and sorta proped him up and such, now feels kinda regretful for not challenging him enough now. Saw it live I don't normally get second hand cringe but damn it was hard to watch.
@Antient_Defender trump is going to win and leftism has never lived in the U.S. the democrats are right and far right. their are no left wingers in american politics
Grand Gibbon You 100% can vote for yourself. On Election Day, POTUS usually votes. I would find it hard to believe if the POTUS didn’t vote for himself unless they were that unsure of themselves.
This guy’s running for Congress, yet he doesn’t seem any more knowledgeable than the average person just slightly interested in politics. Couldn’t even answer basic questions about his own damn state.
I don't get the hatred for the CIA. The CIA doesn't do stuff on their own, they're directed by the president, they're not an independent agent like the East Indies Company or something, and each and every country has and needs an intelligence agency, it's like wanting to abolish the army.
Moby D I’m not a politician nor aspire to be one and I’m not running for congress. No, I can not do better but I don’t have to. He does. But nice try at using the tu quoque fallacy
I can barely get past the half hour mark with this child running for office criticizing Biden for his inability to string sentences together when he sounds like Pauly Shore.
As a sperg it's nice to see someone counteract stereotypes about us for once. Feels like we get ignored when it comes to protecting marginalized groups. Ty for being one of the few to do so when there's no social gain to it, Destiny :)
I finally had to stop after she said "believe all women" and then immediately called Christine Blasey Ford a "plant". Did she steal that from Alex Jones? What the fuck.
Johnny just seems like a nice kid with a good middle class family who's parents convinced him he is brilliant at everything he does and he should change the world, but he really has no clue about politics and no idea what policy's he's discussing.
This incompetency of Joshua, unable to articulate, unable to formulate passionate messages that resonate with the audience, unable to utilize academic language and form a coherent stream of consciousness is 1) off putting 2) and simply makes me cringe within my own body to hear a voice uttered by this individual.
"He's a rapist" 10 seconds later, the same person: "I don't think it's fair to call him a rapist when the court case hasn't even come out" They're such a POS. I honestly can't tell if they're just trolling or a shill. [edit: "They're"]
Memes aside, as fucking dumb and clueless this Joshua guy was, at least he wasn't like aggresively hostile except for that one meh attempt. I think you need someone like Coffin and Mike from CCP for a fair NoBS comparison.
*Michael Dromes* Hard disagree. Absolutely no one is comparable to NoBS. Those debates are so legendary that I’ll relisten to them from time-to-time after all these years(?) later and still walk away dumbfounded afterwards. There has been no one else Destiny has talked to that can do that to me.
This guy is far from being ready for any form of government position, and the fact that people like him get as far as he did is absolutely mind boggling to me
@American Psycho If that’s the case of what you said about Josh and by extension Brie Joy Grey, Kyle Kulinski, and others who rant tweets about the 3% of things Bernie and Biden disagreeing instead of where they are in agreement, then as a progressive, I’m a bit worried. Thankfully they’re the vocal minority of the American Left.
@@soccerruben1 Bernie and Biden do not agree 97 percent if you want to vote for him because he is the lesser of two evils do so but don't delude yourself. berniesanders.com/issues/
Man, I love going back and watching these debates with the hindsight of Biden winning the election. Moments like 10:00 make me burst out in laughter, it's really great.
If you aren't actively supporting Biden by either voting for him and / or campaigning, then you're helping Trump's campaign and chances of winning. That's just a damn fact.
I don't agree with destiny on everything, but I really respect his approach to discussions like these. He doesn't suck up to anybody no matter who he is engaging with.
The kid was a little bit more confident when it came to trucking, but he was a disaster everywhere else. No charisma, lack of knowledge, contradicts himself, not combative enough to push back against questions.
This is why we can't simply just have clueless normies to be the faces of our movement. Joshua here for example just further reinforce the misconstrued impression of that first-world socialist youths these days are just rich suburban kids who are only interest in gaining immense clout.
The fun part with you socialists is that you always think your socialism is better than the other guys' socialism, but in reality you are all full of shit
I watched him and Vaush speak and I was angry that Vaush didn't push him on some issues. I regret that anger, he got fucking destroyed. Rip Joshua4congress
Most people don't vote, but that doesn't result in there being no president for four years. This is a binary decision; either Trump, or Biden. There is no third possible event that can happen.
2:12:00 ..... so josh is scared of automation taking his jobs.. and he couldnt think of any democratic nominee besides warren.. its not like yangs entire platform is about automation.
1:20:50 Johny: "that's assuming that I believe that Joe Biden is always going to vote on party lines" [...] 1:22:18 Destiny: "You said that you didn't think that he would always vote in line with the democratic party, did you say that or did I mishear you?" Johny: "No, you misheard me, I don't think that Biden is going to vote for, to let pass the things that I am really passionate about"
I’m from the UK and consider myself a liberal I guess... but it’s funny and also depressing seeing the American left implode on itself when it comes to the ‘Bernie or bust’ thing. 😅
Edward McCulloch um... I don’t think so. It’s probably not healthy for America’s two party system become too republican dominated. They need decent competition, otherwise it’s barely a democracy.
Why cant these people grasp the concept of "the ends justify the means"? Not voting doesnt change that one of these 2 people will be elected so why not go for the lesser good? How is this soooo hard for these people? they have the moral values of a 9 year old
I'm a socialist, and I wouldn't fucking DARE run for public office without being able to answer any of the very basic questions posed to Joshua. I'm sure he means well, but that doesn't count for much when you take up this level of ambition.
2:40:00 here's what just happened: Destiny: the election is a game to you because you are not directly affected like the people who will be deported or who will lose healthcare will be affected. Johnny: but that's not fair because I am affected by the healthcare system. Destiny: if you stand to lose your healthcare if a republican wins, then this is an easy choice. Johnny: I don't stand to lose healthcare if a republican wins. Johnny actually just reinforced Destiny's initial point: that Johnny would only care about the difference between Trump and Biden if they were likely to be personally affected. Destiny's point stands. It was ACTUALLY pointless for Johnny to counter Destiny with this then cancel their own point later, both times to own Destiny.
fluoxy L. Are you fr? If you’re a candidate running for office you are held to higher standards of accountability when asked about your platform. He was on a twitch stream, ofc it’s more casual and laid back. But regardless, you’re supposed to exploit every question to use it as an opportunity to articulate your agenda and push its
@@morgansong2456 true but not true .besides Obama, our last 2 presidents didn't know so much about the nuances .i think its more important that u have the ideas ,charisma and the right people to help. U don't have to be the most informed by yourself because intelligence doesn't equal leadership skills
Timestamps for our brave mobile memesters:
0:00 - Start
00:00:42 - Pxie's, Melanie's, Imreallyimportant's. Joshua's, JohnnyScarlett's, Destiny's intros
00:05:40 - First disagreement / vote not spent is a vote for trump
00:14:00 - Joshua's issues with Joe Biden
00:16:18 - Destiny accused of doing "The Destiny Thing"
00:17:32 - First attempt at trying to figure out what Joshua sees in Socialism
00:21:02 - Second attempt ^
00:21:29 - Turbo round: guns, abortion, universal healthcare, coronavirus policies
00:25:04 - Third attempt
00:32:21 - Destiny tries to figure out what similarities Joshua sees in Biden and Trump (In policies? Governing?)
00:35:10 - "Are you running (for congress) just as a meme on twitter?"
00:41:10 - The bussing issue
00:47:10 - Getting the congress in order
00:53:08 - Inaction / Indifference towards social issues
00:59:55 - Trump vs Joe in the White House
01:12:50 - Part 2 ^
01:16:10 - "Does it hurt your argument...how wrong you were?"
01:21:43 - Destiny presses Johnny on their thought process behind not supporting Joe
01:33:42 - Would Biden sign anything passed by Nancy Pelosi
01:38:50 - Destiny calls out Johnny on their "Obamacare was a flop" statement
01:44:25 - "I want to hear Joshua make a fucking argument"
01:45:10 - Intro clip / title
01:47:59 - Destiny rap gods how to build an effective socialist movement
01:53:47 - "My strategy pisses off people like Destiny"
01:55:25 - Talk shifts to Bernie
01:59:17 - Claim check: Bernie took his name off of bills he wrote/added to in order to get them passed
02:01:40 - Getting young people to vote / why did Bernie fail (grilling)
02:08:52 - Candidates Joshua would've alternatively supported (including a billionaire)
02:12:35 - Opposition of automated automobiles
02:22:13 - Conversation goes back to Biden and his sexual assault accusations
02:25:30 - Destiny and Johnny have a back and forth on Biden
02:37:15 - Would Johnny vote for Bush Senior / Reagan vs Bill Clinton (heat gets turned up here)
02:40:38 - "I'm asking you to have an actual principled non-weasily position on who we should vote for president" aka Destiny gives up trying
02:41:45 - How to convince the undecided voter
02:47:16 - Johnny answers what would change their mind
02:51:42 - Destiny memes Trump being re-elected
02:52:54 - Closing statements
02:55:53 - A vote for Biden is a vote against Destiny
03:00:55 - Post debate thoughts start here
God bless, But Johnny uses They/Them pronouns btw
@@antiaktion2716 I was actually wondering that after reading that sentence
Any mobile memers?
Destiny and Pxie Facilitates Coordinated Verbal Assault On Autistic Congressional Candidate
bastiatnewsnetwork.com/2020/04/21/pxie-facilitates-coordinated-dog-pile-on-autistic-congressional-candidate/
Plz include joshuas name in this.
"It doesn't really matter who any of us vote for- Joe Biden's gonna lose"
Well that take aged well
How can someone be so oblivious about politics? I'm not even American and could answer some of those questions. Terrible candidate to congress.
he almost did tbh
The guy who made that statement is fucking delusional it shows more and more as this goes on
@@icyn0rth769 no one ever respects that technicality.
I believed stuff like that not so long ago. Destiny and his community snapped me out of it, thankfully.
Well, turns out Joshua was wrong about Biden... imagine that...
So fucking wrong
He's an idiot.. Stopped listening to this video at around 12 minute mark because of him
I know, right? He seems so low-energy in this discussion, and so vague and unconcerned about anything that's brought up. He's literally handed the opportunity to sell his policies and platform, and what happens? He says he doesn't care about anything and comes across as a complete idiot.
LMAO
Easiest win for Trump
Are we sure Joshua isn't 3 kids in a trenchcoat?
Joshua was Vincent Adultman from Bojack.
Are we sure yo mama ain't fat
😂😂
😂😂😂😂💀💀
I sometimes find Destiny to be a little abrasive, but listening to that guy was like wiping my ass with sandpaper lol
Joshua “Yea... I’m running for Congress so like, yea... don’t give a shit. Whatever, vote for me yea. I guess”
"Actually I won't even win anyways so just vote or don't vote, I don't know."
BAY-DUH!
He's very inspiring
Joshua is the new Jeb, he will be our glorious new leader.
Amazin
Destiny did the “Destiny thing” in this debate
AMAZIN
Low key I interpreted her saying “the destiny thing” as that thing when destiny pushes people who are uninformed on shit
He did tho lol idk why he was so mad
Newer Destiny viewer. What is this meme?
@@Manos_ thank you
“I mean, like, idk...”
-Josh4congress
So inspiring.
This guy is running for office? He can barely string coherent sentences together.
Oof
Are you talking about Joshua or Joe Bi-
*Hold up...*
nvm its both
High school class president. Vending machines and every classroom!
@@thecooletompie At least biden can defend his policy positions lmfao
@@Stillpate why do you think that? Biden can not defend anything because his sentences literally don't make sense. That's happening in extremely friendly environments. What do you think will happen during a live debate against Trump? Biden will be a stuttering mess. Trump even has to be careful not to stomp Biden too much or people will pity-vote against Trump.
Here after Joshua got fewer votes than a dead man.
@El Ultimo Pibe Piola de Internet someone who ran in the same race and got more votes than him lmfao
A socialist congressional candidate learned what socialism is in this debate
true
Leo 😂😂😂
He literally tweeted out today that he's never read any theory
When I first saw this comment, I assumed it had to be unnecessarily harsh. Then I watched the video.
You clearly don’t know what socialism is sir.
The worst part is that these are fairly basic questions. WTF Joshua?
DustyO'Rusty I’m not defending poor Joshua here, but I kinda feel like this is pretty much how it would go when most politicians, especially young ones, would fair if they tried discord with ppl who spend all their time researching and having debates. They just don’t have time and maybe the desire to educate the crap out of themselves. Weird.
@@DavEstra01 if you're a politician you should probably know more about your policy positions than twitch streamers who don't even do politics full time(ik some of these ppl do but Destiny doesn't)
@@DavEstra01 He's running for congress. The decisions he makes not only effect the community around him, but the entire world. It is his duty to create a platform that he not only has tangible beliefs in, but one he can accurately communicate to the average voter. Something like universal healthcare programs like M4A aren't rocket science. If he isn't willing to put in the effort of actually studying his platform, why should we take him seriously?
DustyO'Rusty I agree, however, out of curiosity can you point me to a non MSM interview of a politician with the same type of scrutiny that Destiny gave here?
@@DavEstra01 as other ppl have commented on this video the questions weren't that complicated. The overwhelming majority were pretty surface level and he was still struggling or failing to answer and defend his positions. I don't really see where destiny is scrutinizing him to an unfair or abnormal extent.
Destiny ended a politician's whole career in this debate
Reminds of that time he destroyed that Libertarian dude.
That guy was pathetic. Him and his feelings are running for office 🙄
@@Odinsday which dude? i would love to see that debate
@@DallasCowboyFan95 I looked him up, apparently he's running unopposed and actually has a big following. Unfortunately.
This guy can not be called a politician, I've never seen someone so apathetic about politics talk about politics in my entire life.
Watching this after Biden's win and Joshua's loss is so cathartic.
I didn't even know he lost but the whole video I assumed he did
@@ayastia3755 It wasn't even that he lost. He basically scammed his supporters out of a quarter million dollars.
@@kevinjohnanand Dude came in 14th place lol
"im only being mean to joshua because i hate that guy" lmfao
That was savage lmao
One of the best things about Destiny is he is clear about who he hates and why. You always know where he stands, even if that place is several feet lower than the rest of us. xD lol j/k all my love to the BMOC (big manlet on campus)
Timestamp?
@@SpiderWick12 i dont remember when he said it in the video lol. listened to it in the back ground yesterday
@@SpiderWick12 1:24:34
Honestly I feel bad for this kid, he clearly has no idea what he's doing
He made his incumbent opponent announce his retirement, and he has raised the most of anyone running
Tray #7 I looked at the funding and that’s not true. 2 other democratic opponents he’s running against raised more (100k +)
@@morgansong2456 They must have joined the race sometime after Denny Heck announced his retirement
Wait if a politician looses they just pocket all the money after paying staffers that’s kinda Weird
Tray #7 many of these donations could be outside his district
>I'm getting obliterated as I got exposed for lack of conviction and political knowledge while running for congress.
>Ha! You just activated my autismo card!
@Cashel A. Nelson Because so many conservatives do right?
@Unintended Consequences he obviously doesnt know shit, so hes really just wasting his time
@Unintended Consequences he literally refused to answer questions about what policies he supportsd and wants to enact - as a congressional candidate. That alone makes him seem very dishonest, at best, and a fucking moron at worst.
Thank you editor for timestamps.
Blesstiny
blesstiny, depresstiny, questiny, impresstiny, but i digresstiny
LOL'd when Josh called for a rent strike but said he wouldn't participate.
When even the commie is pressuring you to explain your policy positions lmao
Lmao liberal
@@austinbusch7264 Can't tell if conservative or leftist...
The absolute state lmao
@@piedpiper6425 neither I just call people liberal to live out my Ben Shapiro power fantasies
@@austinbusch7264 Well played
@@averywealthyman4194 gotta respect our communists. Unironically.
Kinda feel ripped off following this dude on Twitter, he can't even list his driving beliefs behind his policies lmao
"democracy has failed us"
"i identify as communist"
of course
Josh: Independents perform poorly on every level
Also josh: files to run under a newly formed party no one has ever heard of called "essential workers party"
Make it make sense
"Inaction is a form of action"
"Not voting is not an action"
@herpderpmonkey i watched the first 5 mins or something and couldnt stop laughing at them. too cringy
1. "No vote is a vote for trump"
2. 45% of eligible Americans don't vote
45% + Trump's current support = Majority, gg Trump wins again in 2020
@herpderpmonkey The only person I can't listen to is TreeOfLogic, literally makes me cringe.
@herpderpmonkey Background noise while gaming
@herpderpmonkey listen on the background while playing video games. That's literally the best way.
A plank of wood has more charisma than Joshua.
Whenever Destiny makes a counterpoint: "LETS PIVOT TO THIS OTHER SUBJECT"
Then their little drones accuse Destiny of being the one that pivots lol, bunch of memers.
Yeah moderator seems to have a habit of avoiding all confrontation I watched another one of her moderating and just tries to give even time to speak but not a back and forth of the opposition like people who like X speak three people in a row then Y people all speak and it’s basically the last and first speakers that count
they probably could've gotten him on a few points too, like the biden ad, you could definitely argue that a lot of people could see it as xenophobic
@@macaire2367 That's a way flimsier position than critics of that ad tend to think.
Jake Smiff to be honest it's probably because Pxie is good friends with Destiny and knows how hard he can go and destroy his opposition. She probably realizes that they don't have any answers to Estebans questions and him dunking on them probably won't look good on her.
I had a lot of fun engaging with rose twitter on this panel :)
I can't deal with twitter anymore reading some pepoles stuff just hurts deep inside
What's "rose" twitter?
@@EpicVideoMaster11 Socialist Twitter rose emojibat the end of the name like sock twitter which is socdems with sock emojis
@@EpicVideoMaster11 it's socialist Twitter. They use the rose emoji as their symbol n stuff.
Hey man, I really enjoyed your points in this talk, good work
Vaush and his community died inside at Joshua's performance in this debate.
TRUUUU
Isn’t Vaush explicitly anti-Bernie or Bust?
@@ito9666 Yeah he is but he had Josh on for a chat a couple days ago and sorta proped him up and such, now feels kinda regretful for not challenging him enough now. Saw it live I don't normally get second hand cringe but damn it was hard to watch.
As a member of Vaush's community, yeah we did. The guy can barely hold it together in a debate and he's not honest. What can ya do, I guess.
@Noiseless Sounds But he didn't tho lol. If Vaush had known Joshua was this politically illiterate, he would have gone way harder on him.
This debate got me real mad, this guy is unbelievable.
I know fuck destiny o7
@Antient_Defender trump is going to win and leftism has never lived in the U.S. the democrats are right and far right. their are no left wingers in american politics
Yes, he talks too fast and his voice is really high-pitched
@The Country Gentleman lefties aren't stupid, morality is just hard to have in a country filled with right wing sociopaths and centrist like destiny
King destiny
This Joshua guy is dodging everything even from allies. The rest of the people were actually pretty cool.
I bet Joshua won’t even vote for himself
lessly you cant voet for yourself.
Marc Adams ... yes you can
He sure as hell will not vote for Biden.
Grand Gibbon
You 100% can vote for yourself. On Election Day, POTUS usually votes. I would find it hard to believe if the POTUS didn’t vote for himself unless they were that unsure of themselves.
@@jdjenk04 Or that sure of yourself and you toss your opponent a pity vote. I bet Hillary did that.
This guy’s running for Congress, yet he doesn’t seem any more knowledgeable than the average person just slightly interested in politics. Couldn’t even answer basic questions about his own damn state.
Evan Russell yeah, he embarrassed himself. Couldn’t even bs his way into sounding competent.
I think Joshua getting smacked up was good for him
Maybe that's true tbf
Joshua's closing statement perfectly summarizes what he has been saying for the previous three hours. That being nothing.
I feel like the dynamic shifted from different topics to "this guy is really running for something?"
Not anymore
Guy: What are you hearing from voters
Joshua: they keep telling me to stop running.
Post "y r u runnin" meme
who else is here after his 0.9% performance
I am!
Sup
Man, he should have dropped out after this
So that idiot got what he deserved.
And even that 0.9% looks better than in reality once you include context of even dead people getting more than Joshua's 0.9% lmao
Destiny’s face after Josh said he would abolish the CIA killed me. Lol
Please give a timestamp to that lmao
It’s within the first 30 mins I think
@@TheGrum 21:22
I don't get the hatred for the CIA. The CIA doesn't do stuff on their own, they're directed by the president, they're not an independent agent like the East Indies Company or something, and each and every country has and needs an intelligence agency, it's like wanting to abolish the army.
@@ReddoFreddo obligatory chomsky: ua-cam.com/video/IXcL5o55q8s/v-deo.html
Destiny's piano gathered dust in the background in this debate.
Calling that a piano is quite a stretch of imagination.
Uhm ACKSHUALLY it's a keyboard.
@@joe3189 @chopin4525 4give me senp@i
This guy is running for CONGRESS? Not even local office? Oh boy, that’s rough
Moby D I’m not a politician nor aspire to be one and I’m not running for congress. No, I can not do better but I don’t have to. He does. But nice try at using the tu quoque fallacy
@@alexd4566 It seems like he put no effort into it. anyone with motivation and passion could certainly do a better job.
The girl from Louisiana isn’t that bright either but it’s shadowed by Joshuas complete ignorance on everything he’s talked about
This is painfully embarasing, i would literally vote for any of the other five instead
Turns out Melanie is a mask-off tankie. @chaosismel on twitter if you wanna see some of the smoothest-brain takes on that damned website
“Joe Biden is going to get sh*t on so hard... and Trump is going to walk into reelection... it is going to be a blowout for Trump”
Good take man ;)
I can barely get past the half hour mark with this child running for office criticizing Biden for his inability to string sentences together when he sounds like Pauly Shore.
Damn that was painful to watch, Joshua acts so hard in social media but is awkward as hell here, I wouldn't do better but I can feel his nervousness.
all you have to do is practice giving speeches and stuff and know how to have a conversation
@@jamesclark976 wait, you need social skills and charisma to be a politician? I thought I could just 🍆 emoji my way into the Senate. This blows dog.
Josh : joe Biden just stumbles over his words
Also josh: ummm hmmmm like uhhhh, I don’t know
Bro you’re running fucking know these things
As a sperg it's nice to see someone counteract stereotypes about us for once. Feels like we get ignored when it comes to protecting marginalized groups. Ty for being one of the few to do so when there's no social gain to it, Destiny :)
I love how I think it's imreallyimportant is talking to Joshua like a child
The girl/person in bottom right is just the worst
I finally had to stop after she said "believe all women" and then immediately called Christine Blasey Ford a "plant". Did she steal that from Alex Jones? What the fuck.
@@drgonz0id seriously holy fuck. Your username is very appropriate for getting through their thick skull.
Josh has Jeb's energy and Jnr's enthusiasm when it comes to detail....
This Josh guy exudes charisma, his enthusiasm is overwhelming.
The truck driver talked for literally 30 seconds and i know hes never getting elected into congress
After being grilled for the first few minutes of the stream, he was dead silent.
Johnny just seems like a nice kid with a good middle class family who's parents convinced him he is brilliant at everything he does and he should change the world, but he really has no clue about politics and no idea what policy's he's discussing.
Melanie was actually based
She didn't say anything super dumb and was mostly good faith. That's based.
@@Walamo no she said some pretty stupid shit and is a terminally online twitter tankie. Fuck that person.
As a parent of two autistic children: thank you Destiny
This incompetency of Joshua, unable to articulate, unable to formulate passionate messages that resonate with the audience, unable to utilize academic language and form a coherent stream of consciousness is 1) off putting 2) and simply makes me cringe within my own body to hear a voice uttered by this individual.
its so weird how the guy running for office seems to be the most apathetic.
"He's a rapist"
10 seconds later, the same person: "I don't think it's fair to call him a rapist when the court case hasn't even come out"
They're such a POS. I honestly can't tell if they're just trolling or a shill.
[edit: "They're"]
Destiny found the lefty equivalent of NoBS in this debate
Memes aside, as fucking dumb and clueless this Joshua guy was, at least he wasn't like aggresively hostile except for that one meh attempt. I think you need someone like Coffin and Mike from CCP for a fair NoBS comparison.
*Michael Dromes*
Hard disagree. Absolutely no one is comparable to NoBS. Those debates are so legendary that I’ll relisten to them from time-to-time after all these years(?) later and still walk away dumbfounded afterwards. There has been no one else Destiny has talked to that can do that to me.
@@michaeldromes3948 oh god just reading your comment gave me flashbacks to the peter coffin convo and now im tired
@@Kyle_Schaff ABL gives him a run for his money
This guy is far from being ready for any form of government position, and the fact that people like him get as far as he did is absolutely mind boggling to me
'It's cool that you're running for congress Josh, what do you believe in?'
Josh: 'Umm.... I don't know...check my website...why are you asking me?'
Joshua -- UA-cam comment sections: the guy.
Too early to know what destiny did in this debate
*Adam Pomerantz*
Y’know, just some Destiny things
Here’s how Bernie can still win:
If Joshua and people like him are the future of american left, then Bernie should just drop his political career lol
Joe Biden gets big rona
@American Psycho
If that’s the case of what you said about Josh and by extension Brie Joy Grey, Kyle Kulinski, and others who rant tweets about the 3% of things Bernie and Biden disagreeing instead of where they are in agreement, then as a progressive, I’m a bit worried. Thankfully they’re the vocal minority of the American Left.
@@soccerruben1 Bernie and Biden do not agree 97 percent if you want to vote for him because he is the lesser of two evils do so but don't delude yourself. berniesanders.com/issues/
Man, I love going back and watching these debates with the hindsight of Biden winning the election. Moments like 10:00 make me burst out in laughter, it's really great.
Joshua believed in determinism in this debate. "Biden will lose"
Had to revisit this classic
That "I don't care" rant Destiny gave at the end , was F-ing GLORIOUS !!!
If you aren't actively supporting Biden by either voting for him and / or campaigning, then you're helping Trump's campaign and chances of winning. That's just a damn fact.
Biden literally said he didn't want Bernie supporters. Don't be surprised when the Dems lose again. Y'all suck at elections
I don't agree with destiny on everything, but I really respect his approach to discussions like these. He doesn't suck up to anybody no matter who he is engaging with.
"Trump will walk it in and dunk on biden "
This aged like milk
The kid was a little bit more confident when it came to trucking, but he was a disaster everywhere else. No charisma, lack of knowledge, contradicts himself, not combative enough to push back against questions.
God, this cured like fine gas. I swear, almost a year and this is hilarious to revisit.
I can say with near certainty that Joshua is a great representative for your average Bernie or Buster.
@fluoxy L. Holy shit you actually took that personally. Very sad!!
jokul they’re just Busters now
Yep exactly
@@smiff513 OOF
jokul Bingo 🎯
Yeah, Josh isn't winning shit.
This “socialist” kid does not represent us ffs
This is why we can't simply just have clueless normies to be the faces of our movement. Joshua here for example just further reinforce the misconstrued impression of that first-world socialist youths these days are just rich suburban kids who are only interest in gaining immense clout.
The fun part with you socialists is that you always think your socialism is better than the other guys' socialism, but in reality you are all full of shit
Oh yes he does. Most of you are EXACTLY like this.
@@ZombieLincoln666 when a leftist is rich, its hypocrite
when a leftist is poor, its due to envy
go figure, you neolibs
I love how Johnny completely missed the purpose of the hypothetical...
I watched him and Vaush speak and I was angry that Vaush didn't push him on some issues. I regret that anger, he got fucking destroyed. Rip Joshua4congress
He’s going to win dude, chill.
All Joshua had to say for over 2 hours was "like uh, I don't know. Just like, I don't know like"
this guy running for office is so ill equipt to answer a single quesiton lmfao. Hope he dosent win.
Most people don't vote, but that doesn't result in there being no president for four years. This is a binary decision; either Trump, or Biden. There is no third possible event that can happen.
Destiny has radicalised “the destiny thing”
Dude showed up to an absolute roast oblivious as hell
Honestly Johnny annoyed me more than Josh in this debate, she has like the most dirtbag center positions
I felt like she was claiming center while holding mostly an anti-Biden position, I just found her disingenuous.
The girl from Louisiana?
2:12:00 ..... so josh is scared of automation taking his jobs.. and he couldnt think of any democratic nominee besides warren.. its not like yangs entire platform is about automation.
Maybe he doesn’t like how Yang addresses it?
I was thinking the exact same thing 😂 yet he remembered Tom Styers name
Gorzagh whats so wrong about how Yang addresses it?
@@sharinettegonzalez23 $1000 a month might help, but that does not replace a job someone lost to automation.
@@Hhhhhh-sz9ud but it’s enough to allow a trucker who loses a job due to automation to make a living wage working a random unskilled labor job.
THATS A LOT OF WHITE PEOPLE ON 1 SCREEN BRUH
6 is a big number
I feel like you should put the Joshua dude in the title since he seems to be decently popular compared to say Pxie.
This video Introduced me to Melvor... now im addicted
Thanks Destiny.
1:20:50 Johny: "that's assuming that I believe that Joe Biden is always going to vote on party lines"
[...]
1:22:18 Destiny: "You said that you didn't think that he would always vote in line with the democratic party, did you say that or did I mishear you?"
Johny: "No, you misheard me, I don't think that Biden is going to vote for, to let pass the things that I am really passionate about"
I know I caught that watching the vod and holy shit it was so obvious I can't believe nobody called them(?) out on it.
I’m from the UK and consider myself a liberal I guess... but it’s funny and also depressing seeing the American left implode on itself when it comes to the ‘Bernie or bust’ thing. 😅
Nah it's just funny.
They've learnt nothing from the last election at all.
As if Brit's are any better when Labour is betraying it's own candidate.
@@ed61730 as a bernie supporter, I'm sad to see Bernie or bust people live in a world of delusion.
Edward McCulloch um... I don’t think so. It’s probably not healthy for America’s two party system become too republican dominated. They need decent competition, otherwise it’s barely a democracy.
Why cant these people grasp the concept of "the ends justify the means"?
Not voting doesnt change that one of these 2 people will be elected so why not go for the lesser good?
How is this soooo hard for these people? they have the moral values of a 9 year old
lol pxie is like the teacher I had in like 3rd grade when she gets angry
I'm a socialist, and I wouldn't fucking DARE run for public office without being able to answer any of the very basic questions posed to Joshua. I'm sure he means well, but that doesn't count for much when you take up this level of ambition.
Hopefully he learns from this
@@EpicVideoMaster11 Fingers crossed.
Joshua destroyed the meaning of words in this debate.
2:40:00 here's what just happened:
Destiny: the election is a game to you because you are not directly affected like the people who will be deported or who will lose healthcare will be affected.
Johnny: but that's not fair because I am affected by the healthcare system.
Destiny: if you stand to lose your healthcare if a republican wins, then this is an easy choice.
Johnny: I don't stand to lose healthcare if a republican wins.
Johnny actually just reinforced Destiny's initial point: that Johnny would only care about the difference between Trump and Biden if they were likely to be personally affected. Destiny's point stands. It was ACTUALLY pointless for Johnny to counter Destiny with this then cancel their own point later, both times to own Destiny.
"Socialist government with a compassionate mindset"
Mechanic voice: well there's your problem
Everybody "we can´t put a price on live"
Destiny "watch me calculate"
does joshua actually want anyone to vote for him?
I have no respect for Joshua after he tried to bullshit his way out with the autism card.
😂
Do you feel the same way about race and gender cards as well? My thought is, all the cards are bullshit but wanted to hear your take.
fluoxy L. Are you fr? If you’re a candidate running for office you are held to higher standards of accountability when asked about your platform. He was on a twitch stream, ofc it’s more casual and laid back. But regardless, you’re supposed to exploit every question to use it as an opportunity to articulate your agenda and push its
@@morgansong2456 true but not true .besides Obama, our last 2 presidents didn't know so much about the nuances .i think its more important that u have the ideas ,charisma and the right people to help. U don't have to be the most informed by yourself because intelligence doesn't equal leadership skills
God damn i love when you go off destiny. Thank you for this !
I can't tell who's failing here, this Joshua guy for being clueless, or everyone else for calling him to debate policies. WTF