"Who are YOU to JUDGE?" Refuted
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- Answering "Who are you to judge" and showing the Christian worldview REQUIRES us to judge. In fact, not judging is actually a impossible standard which those who say "don't judge" are constantly violating.
This is just a snippet of the four part series on Homosexuality: Speaking the Truth in Love.
The first video deals with Homosexuality and the Old Testament
• Homosexuality: The Old...
The second deals with Homosexuality and the New Testament
• Homosexuality: The New...
The third deals with issue like being born gay, the possibility of change and what science says.
• Homosexuality pt3 Born...
The final video deals with a bunch of pro-gay slogans and gives a secular case against homosexual behavior.
• Homosexuality: Slogans...
The series is not gay-bashing in any way and is inspired by a love for those who are being hurt by how wrong society is on this issue.
pastor Mike Winger
![11. To Judge, or Not to Judge [Matthew] - Tim Mackie (The Bible Project)](/img/n.gif)
No background music please.
I just went into the comments to say the same thing. I’m trying to listen to this, but it’s extremely distracting.
No
Yeah what's with this crazy background music??? It sounds like an Atari game.
💯 agree. so annoying on almost any video
This is a Mike Winger classic! I love love love this video still years later. It is such a common tagline to just take Matthew 7:1 out of context and ignore the rest of the passage (and the rest of the Bible for that matter).
Sooo helpful. This just came up in my small group today, and I could not remember the entire context of the passage. I’m very grateful…. I knew that “do not judge” was not the end of the story, but I could not recall the context thank you! 🌞
I’m so thankful you dn do the background music anymore 😂
So, I really love that you made this snippet into it’s own lil video, because this snippet can be applied to many different issues, however, I’d have liked it much better without the music. Kinda distracting.
I didn’t notice the music at all but we all hear and learn differently. If it was a message on biology the music would have been distracting for me lol
Hi Mike. I have just found your channel. I appreciate your presentation and content. Please keep it up. I'll say a prayer for your ministry. God bless.
So thankful he did keep it up. 7 years of blessing so many people with his ministry, since your comment. That's amazing!
Wow! This cleared things up so much for me! For a bit I was wondering what a judgment actually is, I was getting confused on what judging is, but this made it so clear. Basically, a judgment is declaring what is good and what is evil. Thanks Mike!
This was helpful, thank you. I'm hoping I can use the wisdom to teach my child this principle. Please pray for my family 💖 thank you.
I loved this teaching. Very helpful and explains so much to me.
I do have to say that the music playing along with you was very distracting.
Thank you, this is helpful and taught me a lot. I wish others understand this and will find your video. I will attempt to share this video with people who misunderstood this passage.
Awesome snippet, but for the next one, could you keep the music at a much lower level? Or just have some at the beginning that fades? It was hard to hear what you were saying.
For me I just found the music distracting so I had to turn the sound off and put on subtitles... even though it's computer generated subtitles and sometimes incorrect.
This is the first time I've heard music in the background from Mike. Hopefully the last time... 🤫
Don't judge 😆@@cherylcogan3542 🤪
(not seriously said)
That was wonderful teaching. Thank you.
Clearly explained brother, as always, thank you for your ministry. God bless you
Found it!! Thank you Mike!
Always liked this video I watch this many times . Thank you
Hey Mike! What are your thoughts about judging another believer’s salvation? Whether they are actually saved or not?
The scriptures do that
That’s different than judging an action. You don’t actually know what’s in their heart, only God does. And whether or not they’ve accepted Christ as their Savior.
I definitely feel my judgement when it comes to homosexual sex is correct, as I remain celibate and do not have sex, I feel in this area I have no plank. However in the past I have struggled with pornography, and of course, someone who has lusted after another even in thought, has committed adultery. That is the plank I feel has been in my eye, and thusly my judgement of some acts has felt... unwise, I suppose? I have made a real and true commitment to end viewing pornography, I think ill be able to judge this situation more properly when that sin is fully behind me. Simply put, I dont feel I can judge someone for being addicted to pornography, gay or straight. I know its wrong, and I judge someone if they are watching pornography without remorse, but unless I get through this, I cannot say I truly judge someone for watching porn. And certainly will never judge someone for being in the midst of struggling.
Mike, what are your thoughts on gods interesting regulation on slavery at exodus 21:20-21? Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
Do you find this verse a sound moral teaching for humanity?
Looking forward to your thoughts
I addressed that passage in this video. ua-cam.com/video/l2q3fql-BlY/v-deo.html
It's all about the Bible and slavery.
It's simple: that is a casuistic law (see the key word IF)
If should it happen - not that it is accepted just because it is addressed
Eg if you speed, you will get fined. That doesn't mean you can speed as long as you are willing to pay the fine or that speeding is legal.
Also this isn't the slavery your thinking of; "slavery" was part of their everyday lives as cars are part of ours.
I still dont get it. We are called to judge but with Gods righteousness right? My sister used this scripture against me too but she did it in a clever way quoting the scripture - she said “this just about sums it up...” it was sly and indirect attempts to judge me and accuse without doing it.
So how do i help her see the truth here? Need help with this
Are we to judge if someone is actually saved or not? Is it ok to have concern if they’re saved based on if someone openly supports homosexuality?
Assuming they say they are christian
I know this probably won’t be answered but I’m going to try anyway :) just in case!
I will try to answer this for you! We judge by God's righteous judgment. We can't be a child of God and support anything that God is against. Jesus loves us but he doesn't condone our sins!😊🌅
Hey mat I was just talking about this it popped up randomly so either it was the Holy Spirit or the algorithm
A+
....... music in background higgly distracting
I can’t focus because of the musix
to be hated for god is an honor
to be rejected for god is an honor
to even lose a job for god is an honor
cause god got you the job he can just get you another
as a christian we should talk and move boldly
but we are to speak slowly and listen swiftly
now again do not take this comment
in go crazy on people that's not what i'm talking about
remember to still live and speak humbly.
Amen to that brother
1 Corinthians5 says not to judge nonbelievers. Many Christians ignore this.
The Lord Jesus has already judged that homosexual behaviors are sinful and wrong, because He is God.
It cud have been made simpler..uve made it complicated
What is the sacred secret of the judgement of the world of Christians? Clue when did we see you? and Just as you have judged you will be judged ok Mike?
In a pure glass of water how much poison should one tolerate?
I am a straight Christian and have always had a difficult time understanding this issue. So if someone is born gay they obviously had no choice or. Say in there orientation. This is who they are. So if God says it's an abomination why would God allow someone to be born this way and how can we ask or tell a gay person that they must reject who they are and live a celebit life! I just am not sure how to feel about this? Also, there is a movie coming out called Boy Erased and it's about a 19 year old who was sent to have conversion therapy. Is this possible? And finally I feel there is so little compassion towards homosexuals from hardline Christians. I read today about a southern baptist church about 45 minutes from my home town that revoked a women's membership after she came out to some close ladies in that church. The church said it's members are made up of people who all agree on biblical doctrine about this issue. I'm really wanting to understand all this. I have a niece who recently came out as bisexual and I work with two people who are openly gay and my heart breaks for them if they are not welcomed into God's kingdom.
Hi there Richard, I'll do my best to address your comment.
Here's the problem. We all live in a sinful world and we are sinners by our very nature. We are sinners by nature because when Adam disobeyed God and fell, he was the representative of the entire human race. see Romans 5:12-14 for reference. None of us were ever asked if we wanted Adam as our representative. None of us ever asked to be born. None of us asked for this sinful and rebellious nature, but that's the way it is. Think about what you've posted, but instead replace "gay" with "hateful" or maybe "covetous". Whether we are hateful, covetous, liars or sexually immoral we are all of these things by our nature but that is no excuse for what we do. When we break God's Law we will be condemned justly unless we turn to Christ Jesus as our Lord and Saviour. We must ALL deny ourselves and reject who we are if we are to faithfully serve Christ Jesus.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 shows us that when God saves them he transforms them. When we are saved we are taken from a condition of spiritual life to spiritual death (Ephesians 2:1), God takes out our old heart of stone which hated Him, and gives us a new heart of flesh which loves Him and loves obeying Him (Ezekiel 36:26). This is a SUPERNATURAL work of God Himself, "conversion therapy" is mankind's failed attempt to do in the flesh what only God can do in Spirit.
Are some Christians guilty of showing a lack of compassion towards homosexuals? Yes. Are some Christians guilty of encouraging homosexuals to live in unrepentant sin? Yes. Should her church membership be revoked for coming out as gay? If she was repentant and looking for help in dealing with her sin, then no that was a terrible thing to do. If she was unrepentant then revoking membership was the correct thing do to. Unrepentant sinners are not to be tolerated within the church, whether they are sexually immoral, thieves or gossips if they refuse to repent they are showing themselves to be false converts who do not follow Christ Jesus. Again, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 makes it absolutely clear that openly gay people have no place in God's Kingdom, their place shall be in the lake of fire. The good news is that if they will turn from their sin and turn to Christ Jesus as their Lord and Saviour, they will be welcomed into God's Kingdom for eternity and will never be cast out.
On a personal note, your created playlists are available for public viewing. I'm not sure why you're watching videos of young women talking about their masturbation habits, but I strongly advise you to abstain from them. I know that I'm not immune to the sins of sexual immorality, but I certainly wouldn't want to make those sins public. I know my comment has been long, but I hope it has edified you. God bless.
@@CC-ee7bj Thanks Mike for your reply! I appreciate that you took the time and as embarrassing as it is to admit, I am guilty of watching things that I probably shouldn't. Please pray for me! Thanks again!
wow! Great discourse guys! Praise be to God who gives us the TRUTH and Spirit by which these matters are addressed in and by us, His Body of Christ! Just beautiful exchange guys! Thanks.
"Is rape evil" and then "who are you to judge" is too brutal. The "who are you to judge" comes usually in a much subtle issues like if someone would say "calvinists are going to hell" and then many would say "who are you to judge where they go" and here the ones who says "who are you to judge" actually makes a good point and this is why it is not so simple.
You're against homosexuality because your Bible disapproves of it. But many members of the lgbt community don't believe in your Bible or God, so bringing it up while making your case against homosexuality is irrelevant
@Randy Van Horn just because you "believe" in something doesn't mean it IS true. They don't believe in it, so if you're trying to make a case to convince them against what they're doing, do it with something that they already accept as true. It's like when a Muslim tries to say that eating pork is haram and Christians shouldn't do it cuz it says so in the Quran. Now, would you take that seriously? You also haven't given a reason as to why it's a sin but consenting heterosexual intercource isn't.
They don't need a savior. You haven't demonstrated that there even is a hellfire to be saved from.
He's judging 2 consenting adults for doing something which causes no harm. That judgment isn't justified, so any judgment against that unjustified judgment will be justified. You see?
Do not judge outsiders. Paul said it. Use it against Christians when they judge non Christians.
@@turksungerbob728 It does cause harm, just because you're ignorant to that fact doesn't mean that the fact is not the case. There is objective reality. But is also the case that Christians are supposed to be more concerned about helping people see the truth of Christ. Sin should be called out as such, but you are right that calling out unbelievers for their sin isn't all that useful or effective.
Also your idea of what makes a judgment justified has no logical consistency or ground to stand on.
@@vibeauxssxuaebiv3489 what harm does it cause
Judging someone is defined as making a person question their beliefs, intelligence, character, decisions, or preferences in a way that causes shame.
If you think it is morally wrong for 2 mature adults to have consenting sex, then of course I'm gonna judge you! What do you expect?
When I say "who are you to judge?" I'm not saying that you should never ever judge anybody. I'm saying that your judgment, in this case, is unjustifiable and often downright wrong.
As I've reflected on this comment months later, I've decided to retract a portion of it. More specifically, I've focused on the "in a way that causes shame" and the "intelligence, character,... or preferences" parts of the definition of the word "judgement". I don't think doing that and making them feel ashamed in the process is the way forward regarding rational discourse between people of differing views. So no, I am not for judging people who oppose or disagree with LGBT, going by that definition. It isn't a healthy and productive way of engaging with other people who hold conflicting ideas. I am, however, all for encouraging people in a friendly manner to question their beliefs and be skeptical of their preconceived biases/assumptions. I guess I guess didn't pay close enough attention to the definition.
So basically you are fine with any judgement, until it is against what you believe, then only your judgement is the one that we must care about not gods judgement, are you god? Also in your culture lets say i support your believes but i want to stay virgin till marriage so i will be maybe 28 years old virgin, what will happen? I will be shamed for being virgin and you know this very well, this is not judgement? why do you guys complain? lets speak about incest , do you support it? 2 twin sisters wanna marry each other, 2 twin sisters they can not have child , so would you support it? Yes or no and be honest, so incase of no , who are you to judge?
You want is to discover god's morality rather than Re invent our own morality? Well guess what, WE DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD. And your god's morality shouldn't have any effect on law or politics
they think god's morality is absolute but they've never demonstrated this.
They don't understand morality at all.
Don't believe in God? Go to space and remove the oxygen mask you will see him.
Wow. You think about homosexuality a lot.
What a childish comment. I encourage you to think more carefully about these important issues rather than using this sort of mockery. It may seem cute but it’s not helping you reason it through.
Mike Winger Sweetie, these are only “important issues” in your mind. I have been gay on this Earth for nearly 50 years. When you are saying that I am not worthy of the same rights you enjoy because of your religion, there is no “reasoning” to do. And every single therapist and psychologist will tell you that people who talk about condemning homosexuals all the time typically are gay themselves. And ONE MORE TIME, the word “homosexual” was added to the Bible in 1943. Before that, God was fine with me, so...
@@hamybear Gay people have all the same rights as any other US citizen -- and then some. This isn't about stripping your political rights, it's about affirming Biblical values in the face of a culture that aggressively promotes homosexuality, transgenderism, and other deviant behaviors that "every single therapist and psychologist" used to call mental illness. The English word "homosexual" is of recent vintage but the idea is as old as Sodom. The words describing men who have sex with men have always been in the Bible in the original Greek and Hebrew, and appear in ancient Latin and Syriac translations as well.
Michael Hampton I believe you are on this channel because you know in your heart that you were handcrafted by the lord in his image, to serve him. Instead you are serving the wicked one, but you want out. Deep down, you want to know the Lord. That is why you’re here.
Michael Hampton Also, these are important issues in the mind of all Christians that truly care about serving the Lord and not the world. Mike winger is not the only Christian. Take a look at the view count. That is a small fraction of the people that recognize the importance of this issue.