Miracle was way too ahead of everyone back from pre TI6 until post TI7 his playstyle is just way too different from anyone else that's why he always stands out.
I'm sorry to say this but he is past his prime. He undoubtedly has the highest attained mechanical skill at his peak in comparison to his peers ever seen in pro Dota but he has lost that edge ever since 2019. I do want him to come back and compete at the highest level again but to be at the very top? That's no longer possible for him unfortunately.
@@imfinishedgrinding638 i do think it still possible. He still stomping in pubs and respected by most players. The only thing hes missing is probably passion since he won ti once already but I still think if he tried he can be at the top. by top i mean atleast Yatoro level right now.
@@imfinishedgrinding638 it is possible. he just need to commit hours into being a pro player. we already see he still got it with just a casual pub games he still can lane against the best.
@@Stratocaster123 Not what he said, He said Topson and Ana mechanical wise, and then he said in terms of overall gameplay laning, understanding of the game etc he said it was Miracle.
People forget how Insane Miracle was , Sf outplay , OD Rampage , AM manya Dodge into ultra kill, Arc 1s rosh , Arc WTF ancient defense , jugg 10 mil 9mni slash , TB I don't fear anyone push against LYF , Miracle was a BEAST in his prime
Glad that the one and only, the face of Dota 2, Dendi has been mentioned. One of the very few players who have appeared in a TI grand finals multiple times. The most charismatic player and most loved by the community. He's waaaay past his prime, but the impact he had in the first half of Dota 2 was simply undeniable.
Dendi was the most beloved DotA player ever imo. I was 14 when I watched TI1, and we all wanted to emulate Dendi. I still watch B8's matches in hope that we can see Dendi at a TI one more time.
the reason miracle is the goat is being so humble at such level is insane to me specially in esports scene where even half of what mriacle achieve people get into there heads and start acting like superstars
3 of them. And Collapse saying that means a lot to me because i truly think that Collapse has the best potential to become the GOAT in the future in terms of pure skill.
Depends on the category... Individual skill - Miracle cannot be denied, the name fits, he's an alien or a robot. But shoutout to Sumail as well, give the emperor his flowers, peak Sumail could not be beaten in mid lane and he is still one of the best midlaners playing the game today. Longevity - Puppey easily. That man has been in dota since forever and hes still good, dont get it fucked up. Achievement - Ceb and Notail easy. Their individual journeys and struggles to get to where theyre at now? Incredible. And they have accomplished some Dr. Disrespect shit (the 2 time back to back) which is unlikely to be repeated.
MIRACLE is the goat of dota 2. It’s like 80% of the pros believed that he is the chosen one. Hopefully, some team will recruit him as MID for the upcoming tournaments and TI. He always dominate his mid lane like crazy. I just think he is still in his PRIME but he was just too loyal to his team with kuroky. PS: He is still playing at this time and reached ranked 6 Leaderboards in EU server.
If you guys were there when Miracle world first reached 9K MMR, it was so hyped. His named and highlight all over the place. He did ahead of his time. But nowdays people already catch up. You either retired as a hero or compete long enough to see yourself wash up.
Miracle used to make play after play after play consistently that’s what makes him different, it wasn’t like 1-2 lucky things, you could see him consistently making smart moves
In terms of individual skill it definitely has to be Miracle. What this guy did was simple outstanding. He defines metas, carried Teams and played a extreme variety of heros, back when every pro had his 2 or 3 goto heros. Dendi had Pudge, Quop or Puck. Paparazzi had Sf, AM, Gyro. Puppy had Chen. Miracle had Sf, Quop, Morph, Am, Invoker, Storm, Luna, OD, Ember etc etc
Vigo: That Fookin nobody is Amer. Son: Oh? Vigo: We call him "Miracle" Son: The LEGEND? Vigo: He's not just a LEGEND, He's the one you sent to kill other legends.. Son: Damn. Vigo: I once saw him in a pro match kill 5 people with an OD, with a Fookin OD!! 😂😂😂
ill be honest the reason why i watch Ti before because of miracle i was looking towards on his individual skill. i love he's invoker gameplay. Notail achievement wise he is goat Puppy Consistent player still above He is goat Dendi he may be not able the catch-up with current players right now but we have to respect this guy he is the face of dota shows a bug that we cant even imagine, he was monster in early dota 2. i have to mention these goats ceb,aui-2000,jerax, koro maybe ? In current dota 2 Yatoro is the best carry as of now and replacing miracle.
i think miracle to.... the most nightmare in dota 2 i ever see which is during the best fight agains allience, miracle arch warned defends the ancient throne with 1 HP using bubble just very speechless very very.... cannot be imaginable.... i think world of dota got shock at that time... what a lagend momment braaaaa.... love miracle so much...
I think TI12 Yatoro is very close to peak Miracle. Difficult to say who's better. When picking GOAT, you have to consider the consistency. There were many great players and teams throughout the history of Dota. But not that many consistently on top for several years.
he is consistent on top cuz he got the best offlaner to ever play dota and the best support duo after notail and jerax., while miracle has to solo carry his team often, yatoro was like a passenger free farming all the time cuz collapse and supports caarrying the game on their back. yatoro is consistent carry and thats the only position where he thrive. Saying that, hes not close to becoming a goat. being only good at one thing and not remarkable, id put collapse above him to be honest. the impact collapse has in his team is undeniably the greatest
@@darkstar3563 I do not think you even play Dota2 or watch pro games. Either this or you are just clueless about Dota2 in general and stuck below Immortal rank. His senses and farming patterns are by far the best, much better than it was back in miracle's time. They both hit their peak at some time and currently dota 2 is faster and a little harder due to better competition. Watch his movements, nobody is even close to Yatoro's skill and understanding of the game. BTW: There is no way a TEAM win 2 TIs if there is someone not very good at any position. You can have 1 weak position and you will be not able to win. If you think someone is weakling in Team Spirit, you just do not understand the dota2. They are all 5 really great. Also everyone is mentioning how Miracle was dominating Mid, i am pretty sure back in his time, the biggest rivalry was No[o]ne vs Miracle on the middlane where No[o]ne in 60%+ games dominated him in the midlane in terms of mechanics. People are making GOAT from someone based on highlights on YT from pub. He was great player, a TI winner and pretty sure at this time the best carry player. But nowadays people are better.
Can't go wrong with miracle, agree with collapse .. His playstyles are just out of this world.. Risky but when he pull that off is just fuckng amazing... Its like "how is that possible???" 😅
It isnt surprisigng why majority of these players picks miracle regardless of the performance of their current team Miracle greatly impacted the game of dota
Dota at this day and age has the biggest talent it ever had and it keeps getting higher and better. Even now Miracle is in the top 5, but back then? Waaay ahead of time, no question about it, he was number 1 All the greats such as Topson, w33, Arteezy, Sumail etc were always close, but not really above his level. There is talent, and then there is a genius.
I don’t remember who said it but somebody said nobody knew the meaning of the term outplaying until Miracle came into the scene, before that, people were just hitting creeps and pushing towers.
First time I played dota in 2015, I stuck in 1.2k MMR until 2017, then I watched some of miracle highlights and eventually really get into it and started watching his full game, I climbed to 2k for the first time in like 2 weeks, and got into 5k in like 6 months. He definitely has the most impact to my ability of playing Dota for sure.
It is a complicated question that should have multiple answers in different categories, but the short and sweet answer is definitely miracle. He had it all. Robotic calculated plays, outrageous shiny moments, above average consistency, and a very impressive hero pool
I knew it. I played DotA and mostly play LoL and only has ~100 hours in dota 2 but I still like watching Miracle. Like I didn't follow Dota2 at all but imagine his skills is too good that it made him became so popular.
PMA wise dota person = either CED or Puppey, but when you talk about the whole package, personality, entertaiment, moment of magic, signature hero, simphony of skill, it has to be him, THE MYTH THE LEGEND, MIRACLE DOTA. no one came close. Its MIRACLE SHOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW
Noone will ever reach peak Miracle- mechanics in this game, that kid was legit superhuman, what a player. Agree with Crit- mostly I guess, and Collapse.
I still haven't seen player as good as Miracle on individual skill, neither i have seen an invoker player like him there was a time if he picks invoker he wins all game alone use to be called " The Miracle Show ... true legend in DOTA community !
MIRACLE was my idol, seing him play in majors and the time when he eas the first 9k mmr. It was a thing of beauty. 1v4 ganks, solo kills, outplays and many more. He plays enemies like they're children
With how young the core of Team Spirit are, there’s a chance for Yatoro/Collapse there if they are not still there. Also glad to hear Dendi, if you started playing dota 2 since the beginning, you will hear the name Dendi everywhere for four years and even past TI6.
I feel like Miracle's retirement should be good. At his prime, he was just incredible, he was like a magician, squeezing water from a stone making impossible things happen. If you see his liquipedia profile, its like every dota2 players dream, pub guy comes to pro scene, immediately winning multiple majors, winning TI, getting 2nd place next TI then leaving like a chad.
Individual and raw skill wise Prime Miracle is a good answer. Overall aspect if we include like achievements , influences , legacy , and what they did for Dota2 scene both community and pro scene the answer will be undeniably Notail. Honorable mention is Ame the Uncrowned King.
Nothing offensive but miracle's downfall is just because of love to his team not the dota2. He could be friends with anyone but game is game, he have to choose team coz it's teamwork. I don't know why kuro is still playing btw!
Miracle damn good when you watch player perspective there's no time wasted. The timings, the understanding, you know no words can explain. If you go against him in The lane for sure you'll be fucked up. He can easily know if you're going to did or not. And top of all that, he's very humble we don't see arrogance. I mean have you seen all his highlights, arc warden, invoker, od etc. even in pubs. He just built different literally. You know when a player is good when he makes every highlight
Miracle, true. But dendi kinda lost his magic. It's been hard for him to play pro, even in two regions (EEU and NA). But he's probably better to be immortalized as a legend. He was once great, but not today. GOAT means you have to be consisent
This is a very hard question TBH, mainly because the career of a dota2 pro player is not that long unlike other traditional sports. I'll say in terms of longevity and consistency, Puppey is the GOAT. In terms of Overall individual skill its Miracle. But in terms of being the face of dota and helps build the community from scratch. Ill say its Dendi.
Here’s the thing: when you add "Miracle" to the title of every Dota highlight or video, it’s an instant click for everyone. It’s like you can’t resist watching this man play, even though he’s not in his prime today. That’s IMPACT.
@@robnielmanalo I don't think so , back then you put dendi on the title and everyone would watch simillar to Miracle. It wasn't only pudge plays , Dendi plays x or dendi this dendi that those were most popular videos. I already said it wasn't big as Miracle but he had simillar impact no denying that imo.
Unanimously, its Miracle- he made so much impact to the game. Not just the highlights but most of all the other top players considered him as the GOAT. When Miracle- was at his peak, he's way ahead of the competition. Trully GOATED!
There must be some of categories for every position and other aspects. But my true inspiration for playing Dota is master SingSing and AdmiralBulldog Hahah
Miracle King of outplays . You know Vigoss he’s the goat in dota 1 king of ganks. RTZ and Eve king of farm 😅. Sumail king of mid. And w33ha king of pubs. Toby king of casters. Puppey kin
i think its really hard to say who the GOAT is because the new generation learned from the best and perfected their craft players like miracle just learned on their own for me miracle is the GOAT eventhough i think yatoro is much better than miracle was at his peak its like comparing scientists from 1000 years ago with scientists today every scientist from today can achieve more than the best scientist 1000 years ago could achieve but they put the first pieces into place to make the next steps much easier
@@belikearuPlayers from OG legit said they were heavily inspired by Wings and wanted to adopt some of their play style and drafting. Wings could have been great but were screwed by their organization. We don’t know what would have happened to them
Miracle a Ti winner and Ti second place. First professional player to reach 9K mmr. I remember watching his gameplay before picking those hero in actual match. Now miracle can't leave NGX since his a co-founder unless, revoking his contract and ownership.
As a gamer that have seen dota since forever i can tell you one thing, there is no doubt that the best player that ever touched this game is Miracle by a far margin, when it comes to skill ceiling nobody will be even close to him, this guy is so good like if he doesnt play for 10 years he will be able to compete with the best in a short period of time. Miracle is Messia of Dota no doubt about it.
Well my GOAT is ana. Dude is literally unranked and played for a week before joining TI yet still won 2 TI. Dude just made TI his summer job. Imagine if he played consistently.
In my opinion Jerex is the greatest player to ever press those keys We only notice pos 1 and pos 2 unfortunately when the GOAT conversation is brought up
That’s just not true, people praise Jerax, Crit & Fy all the time, they’re absolute legends. Miracle- is just on another level, and other support players like Puppey have tons of achievements, along with captain credit. I’d say pos 4&2 are the noticed roles in terms of gameplay.
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Gorgc is the goat, like literal goat because he smells like one
😂😂😂
Bruh 😂
😂😂😂
the best comment lol
when and where did you smell him?
Miracle was way too ahead of everyone back from pre TI6 until post TI7 his playstyle is just way too different from anyone else that's why he always stands out.
One could say that all young superstars today spawned from miracle gameplay videos
and also while watching true sight. i feel like miracle plays without stress or something he just enjoys the game win or lose.
Miracle had his moment. He is nowhere close to being the goat. He has been consistently a T2 pro for years. Get real man.
may I know whos your go to "GOAT"? :')@@KroVey
Actually not , w33ha was very good in that time too !
I hope we get to see peak Miracle at TI someday again.
2 TI with no Miracle feels bad man
I'm sorry to say this but he is past his prime. He undoubtedly has the highest attained mechanical skill at his peak in comparison to his peers ever seen in pro Dota but he has lost that edge ever since 2019. I do want him to come back and compete at the highest level again but to be at the very top? That's no longer possible for him unfortunately.
@@imfinishedgrinding638 i do think it still possible. He still stomping in pubs and respected by most players. The only thing hes missing is probably passion since he won ti once already but I still think if he tried he can be at the top. by top i mean atleast Yatoro level right now.
@@imfinishedgrinding638 He is literally rank 8 at the moment in EU. Go check miracle smurf 6 on dota 2 pro tracker.
@@imfinishedgrinding638 it is possible. he just need to commit hours into being a pro player. we already see he still got it with just a casual pub games he still can lane against the best.
Even Ceb said that when Miracle was in OG he was the greatest player hes ever seen. For me he is the goat absolute joy to watch
Not true, when he was asked he said Ana and Topson and later he said also miracle... watch TI8 truesight again
@@Stratocaster123 Not what he said, He said Topson and Ana mechanical wise, and then he said in terms of overall gameplay laning, understanding of the game etc he said it was Miracle.
@@Stratocaster123 you should say it for your self
Miracle for mechanics, Ceb for leadership, Topson for entertainment, Dendi for pudge
Yaphets for sf? 😂
@@niicoo-9566
Vigoss for domination.
Dendi for the Icon of the game (back then at least lol)
@@niicoo-9566i forgot that yaphets has insane micros as sf back in the day until you reminded me
Flopson is not included 😂
you can feel Miracle's impact even they losing, the mechanics is insane.
People forget how Insane Miracle was , Sf outplay , OD Rampage , AM manya Dodge into ultra kill, Arc 1s rosh , Arc WTF ancient defense , jugg 10 mil 9mni slash , TB I don't fear anyone push against LYF , Miracle was a BEAST in his prime
Miracle Invoker, man
@@wien.k Miracle invoker is tales of legends , it's his signature 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
That's why he's called M-God. Miracle is the Michael Jordan of DOTA. GOAT Miracle-
U forgot who nerf invoker couse miracle if in pro scene invoker always banned😂
@@muhammadhavi9781 you should watch ti8 and ti9 lmao, he isnt the most banned invoker player but topson
DAMN TI7 LIQUID WAS INSANE.
Upper bracket for bitches 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Glad that the one and only, the face of Dota 2, Dendi has been mentioned. One of the very few players who have appeared in a TI grand finals multiple times. The most charismatic player and most loved by the community. He's waaaay past his prime, but the impact he had in the first half of Dota 2 was simply undeniable.
Dendi was the most beloved DotA player ever imo. I was 14 when I watched TI1, and we all wanted to emulate Dendi. I still watch B8's matches in hope that we can see Dendi at a TI one more time.
@@danielgrobbelaar9672 Still is. The amount of universal love people had (and still have) for that guy hasn't been matched since
google face of dota and go to images and see who is the real face of dota
The thing is "EVERYBODY" wants to be Miracle back at the time. Whatever hero he plays in Mid get picked at Pubs.
Miracle-, Ceb, all OG players, Puppey - Notail played with or managed almost all of them
Miracle no doubt. That one man rampage is just the icing on the cake.
Yeah, I thought Miracle- would dominate for couple more years, but Kuroky had other plans in t3.
Totally agree, for me it is Miracle on his top. I’d really love to see him back soon
Miracle the goat especially 1v5 and that's not the pub game or ranked game, it's a tournament game
Its really hard to say whos the goat but when it comes to individual performance, its miracle fosho
the reason miracle is the goat is being so humble at such level is insane to me specially in esports scene where even half of what mriacle achieve people get into there heads and start acting like superstars
I'm so happy that 2 person mentioned miracle as a GOAT. For me miracle is the number 1 player of all time. Really miss him 😢😢
actually 3 of them mentioned Miracle.
Ari, Cr1t, and Collapse mentioned him.
3 of them. And Collapse saying that means a lot to me because i truly think that Collapse has the best potential to become the GOAT in the future in terms of pure skill.
After seeing his magnus in TI 10, I am a big fan of collapse. Maybe he can be the goat if he wins ti 12.@@ThanhNguyen-br1rh
@@Riri-fj9zd Yapzor in a video also says Miracle is the best player he knows, followed by Nisha
Glad Miracle and Dendi got mentioned
Depends on the category...
Individual skill - Miracle cannot be denied, the name fits, he's an alien or a robot. But shoutout to Sumail as well, give the emperor his flowers, peak Sumail could not be beaten in mid lane and he is still one of the best midlaners playing the game today.
Longevity - Puppey easily. That man has been in dota since forever and hes still good, dont get it fucked up.
Achievement - Ceb and Notail easy. Their individual journeys and struggles to get to where theyre at now? Incredible. And they have accomplished some Dr. Disrespect shit (the 2 time back to back) which is unlikely to be repeated.
Good comment sir😊
if TS wins this TI then TS will have 2 TI wins too
Sumail said on stream that Somnus/Maybe is the best midlaner of all time!
@@atcs5757yeah but not with the same line up which og did.
@@aki32300and not back to back
4 Major win as Carry player. 2 Ti win as Support. There can only be 1 Goat, BigDaddyNotail
well, Kuro destroyed Miracle's career
You dont want RAZOR pos 5?😂😂
@@VoydVelasco LMFAO
True upto some extent
Growing up watching Miracle, I would say I've never seen anyone better than Miracle. Not being biased but his talent and skills shows it
MIRACLE is the goat of dota 2. It’s like 80% of the pros believed that he is the chosen one. Hopefully, some team will recruit him as MID for the upcoming tournaments and TI. He always dominate his mid lane like crazy. I just think he is still in his PRIME but he was just too loyal to his team with kuroky.
PS: He is still playing at this time and reached ranked 6 Leaderboards in EU server.
He doesnt play professionally anymore because of health reasons afaik
he is not, he is not even close to Puppey
@@marth2535 he's coming back this season
He is now focusing on himself, u can see on his last tournament he’s gained some weight and probably on a bulk.
GOAT
Player:Miracle
Captain:Puppy
Team Moralization:Ceb
Achievement:Notail
Damn, I miss miracle so much, I hope he can play back on ti 😢😢
If you guys were there when Miracle world first reached 9K MMR, it was so hyped. His named and highlight all over the place. He did ahead of his time. But nowdays people already catch up. You either retired as a hero or compete long enough to see yourself wash up.
Miracle- is the idol I always looked at as a player..he is the GOAT
Nobody asked me but i still say "Miracle".
Miracle was ahead of his time. Dude doing stuff that will either cost or win you the game.
Miracle used to make play after play after play consistently that’s what makes him different, it wasn’t like 1-2 lucky things, you could see him consistently making smart moves
In terms of individual skill it definitely has to be Miracle. What this guy did was simple outstanding. He defines metas, carried Teams and played a extreme variety of heros, back when every pro had his 2 or 3 goto heros. Dendi had Pudge, Quop or Puck. Paparazzi had Sf, AM, Gyro. Puppy had Chen. Miracle had Sf, Quop, Morph, Am, Invoker, Storm, Luna, OD, Ember etc etc
Miracle had storm?? I think you mixed sumail with miracle there
Paparazzi wrecked Miracle 1v1 which is all mechanical skill lol
@@mzorkeayou forgot Miracle storm in China Super Major??? Bro memory loss
@@mzorkeaSumail storm was 2015 Dota 2 Asia Championship
@@ChildofbhaalYou talking about TI 71v1 tourno? Come on that's just fun 🤣🤣🤣🤣
My GOAT is Miracle Also. he had so many plays with incredible micro and very calculating moves, awesome to watch
Vigo: That Fookin nobody is Amer.
Son: Oh?
Vigo: We call him "Miracle"
Son: The LEGEND?
Vigo: He's not just a LEGEND, He's the one you sent to kill other legends..
Son: Damn.
Vigo: I once saw him in a pro match kill 5 people with an OD, with a Fookin OD!! 😂😂😂
Source pls
Hahaha like John Wick, that's funny
@@Yorchhh Hahaha
ill be honest the reason why i watch Ti before because of miracle i was looking towards on his individual skill. i love he's invoker gameplay.
Notail achievement wise he is goat
Puppy Consistent player still above He is goat
Dendi he may be not able the catch-up with current players right now but we have to respect this guy he is the face of dota shows a bug that we cant even imagine, he was monster in early dota 2.
i have to mention these goats
ceb,aui-2000,jerax, koro maybe ?
In current dota 2
Yatoro is the best carry as of now and replacing miracle.
And who is Yatoro's idol?
peak Miracle was a different beast. I do think Current midlaners learned a lot from him.
i think miracle to.... the most nightmare in dota 2 i ever see which is during the best fight agains allience, miracle arch warned defends the ancient throne with 1 HP using bubble just very speechless very very.... cannot be imaginable.... i think world of dota got shock at that time... what a lagend momment braaaaa.... love miracle so much...
Literally its PUPPEY since dota1 he's been competing until now and still on the top teir ,11 consecutive Ti and one of the best captain in the world
I think TI12 Yatoro is very close to peak Miracle.
Difficult to say who's better.
When picking GOAT, you have to consider the consistency.
There were many great players and teams throughout the history of Dota.
But not that many consistently on top for several years.
Puppey?
he is consistent on top cuz he got the best offlaner to ever play dota and the best support duo after notail and jerax., while miracle has to solo carry his team often, yatoro was like a passenger free farming all the time cuz collapse and supports caarrying the game on their back. yatoro is consistent carry and thats the only position where he thrive. Saying that, hes not close to becoming a goat. being only good at one thing and not remarkable, id put collapse above him to be honest. the impact collapse has in his team is undeniably the greatest
@@darkstar3563 I do not think you even play Dota2 or watch pro games. Either this or you are just clueless about Dota2 in general and stuck below Immortal rank. His senses and farming patterns are by far the best, much better than it was back in miracle's time. They both hit their peak at some time and currently dota 2 is faster and a little harder due to better competition. Watch his movements, nobody is even close to Yatoro's skill and understanding of the game.
BTW: There is no way a TEAM win 2 TIs if there is someone not very good at any position. You can have 1 weak position and you will be not able to win. If you think someone is weakling in Team Spirit, you just do not understand the dota2. They are all 5 really great.
Also everyone is mentioning how Miracle was dominating Mid, i am pretty sure back in his time, the biggest rivalry was No[o]ne vs Miracle on the middlane where No[o]ne in 60%+ games dominated him in the midlane in terms of mechanics. People are making GOAT from someone based on highlights on YT from pub. He was great player, a TI winner and pretty sure at this time the best carry player. But nowadays people are better.
Collapse in love with Miracle his reacting when mentioning him XD
Man i wanna see miracle again. Making plays. I remember the OG's . Miracle, Sumail , Noone. Their mid matchups were always worth watching
Can't go wrong with miracle, agree with collapse .. His playstyles are just out of this world.. Risky but when he pull that off is just fuckng amazing... Its like "how is that possible???" 😅
It isnt surprisigng why majority of these players picks miracle regardless of the performance of their current team Miracle greatly impacted the game of dota
speaking about fact, miracle impact creates so many pro player now.
Miracle gameplay moments just makes audience go, woww. Thats why he is the goat, its just magical moments
miracle still rank 6 , hope he makes a comeback with some other team
If miracle left nigma when kuroky is a shell of his former self he could've have won more
I respect Miracles lotalty, that shows that he values friendship more than achievements, truely a goat in and out of game
Dota at this day and age has the biggest talent it ever had and it keeps getting higher and better.
Even now Miracle is in the top 5, but back then?
Waaay ahead of time, no question about it, he was number 1
All the greats such as Topson, w33, Arteezy, Sumail etc were always close, but not really above his level.
There is talent, and then there is a genius.
I don’t remember who said it but somebody said nobody knew the meaning of the term outplaying until Miracle came into the scene, before that, people were just hitting creeps and pushing towers.
i wish miracle will back to pro scene again soon..
Miracle every move he makes is a highlight, even if he's pos 4 or 5 putting a ward would definitely be a highlight.
First time I played dota in 2015, I stuck in 1.2k MMR until 2017, then I watched some of miracle highlights and eventually really get into it and started watching his full game, I climbed to 2k for the first time in like 2 weeks, and got into 5k in like 6 months. He definitely has the most impact to my ability of playing Dota for sure.
It is a complicated question that should have multiple answers in different categories, but the short and sweet answer is definitely miracle. He had it all. Robotic calculated plays, outrageous shiny moments, above average consistency, and a very impressive hero pool
Miracle- who will forget the arc warden throne defence, the SF juke and thr invoker blinded killed jug
I knew it. I played DotA and mostly play LoL and only has ~100 hours in dota 2 but I still like watching Miracle. Like I didn't follow Dota2 at all but imagine his skills is too good that it made him became so popular.
PMA wise dota person = either CED or Puppey, but when you talk about the whole package, personality, entertaiment, moment of magic, signature hero, simphony of skill, it has to be him, THE MYTH THE LEGEND, MIRACLE DOTA.
no one came close.
Its MIRACLE SHOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW
you never came?
Who is the choke of DOTA? 23 Savage and LGD. Best choker.
Noone will ever reach peak Miracle- mechanics in this game, that kid was legit superhuman, what a player. Agree with Crit- mostly I guess, and Collapse.
I still haven't seen player as good as Miracle on individual skill, neither i have seen an invoker player like him there was a time if he picks invoker he wins all game alone use to be called " The Miracle Show ... true legend in DOTA community !
MIRACLE was my idol, seing him play in majors and the time when he eas the first 9k mmr. It was a thing of beauty. 1v4 ganks, solo kills, outplays and many more. He plays enemies like they're children
With how young the core of Team Spirit are, there’s a chance for Yatoro/Collapse there if they are not still there. Also glad to hear Dendi, if you started playing dota 2 since the beginning, you will hear the name Dendi everywhere for four years and even past TI6.
I feel like Miracle's retirement should be good. At his prime, he was just incredible, he was like a magician, squeezing water from a stone making impossible things happen.
If you see his liquipedia profile, its like every dota2 players dream, pub guy comes to pro scene, immediately winning multiple majors, winning TI, getting 2nd place next TI then leaving like a chad.
Miracle is the GOAT every player loves miracle ,i like Ame he desrve a spot light as well and i am sure Collapse will be one later on !
Individual and raw skill wise Prime Miracle is a good answer. Overall aspect if we include like achievements , influences , legacy , and what they did for Dota2 scene both community and pro scene the answer will be undeniably Notail.
Honorable mention is Ame the Uncrowned King.
Ame didn't leave LGD right? He's still a member but not active? cmiiw
Nothing offensive but miracle's downfall is just because of love to his team not the dota2. He could be friends with anyone but game is game, he have to choose team coz it's teamwork. I don't know why kuro is still playing btw!
collapse always looks like he just heard an inside joke and is trying not to laugh
Miracle damn good when you watch player perspective there's no time wasted. The timings, the understanding, you know no words can explain. If you go against him in The lane for sure you'll be fucked up. He can easily know if you're going to did or not. And top of all that, he's very humble we don't see arrogance. I mean have you seen all his highlights, arc warden, invoker, od etc. even in pubs. He just built different literally. You know when a player is good when he makes every highlight
now collapse and yatoro joins the GOATS in dota 🎉
To figure out a fountain hook,you have to be a Goat - Dendi
Now yatoro would be in conversation. Best carry to date
Skill wise, Miracle. Entertainment and hype wise, Dendi.
Miracle, true. But dendi kinda lost his magic. It's been hard for him to play pro, even in two regions (EEU and NA). But he's probably better to be immortalized as a legend. He was once great, but not today. GOAT means you have to be consisent
Miracle in his prime is totally different... Like a miracle.
This is a very hard question TBH, mainly because the career of a dota2 pro player is not that long unlike other traditional sports. I'll say in terms of longevity and consistency, Puppey is the GOAT. In terms of Overall individual skill its Miracle. But in terms of being the face of dota and helps build the community from scratch. Ill say its Dendi.
Here’s the thing: when you add "Miracle" to the title of every Dota highlight or video, it’s an instant click for everyone. It’s like you can’t resist watching this man play, even though he’s not in his prime today. That’s IMPACT.
Yeah definitely, i think dendi also had similar impact back then but not big as Miracle.
@@ArcticDucq Dendi is only Popular on his Pudge, just like Arise Magnus.. Miracle is different. He is know for his gameplay on any hero he touches.
@@robnielmanalo I don't think so , back then you put dendi on the title and everyone would watch simillar to Miracle. It wasn't only pudge plays , Dendi plays x or dendi this dendi that those were most popular videos. I already said it wasn't big as Miracle but he had simillar impact no denying that imo.
@@ArcticDucq yes but it lasted a year after they won TI
I still remember Miracle- in his prime
he was several levels ahead of all the pros
very excited to see him back on the scene (hopefully soon)
That subtle smile by collapse
Unanimously, its Miracle- he made so much impact to the game. Not just the highlights but most of all the other top players considered him as the GOAT. When Miracle- was at his peak, he's way ahead of the competition. Trully GOATED!
Honestly now it might be Yatoro... He just doesnt make mistakes.
I believe they all want to mention Kuroky but after they saw Kuroky’s drafts/performance as Razor Pos5, he was deleted right away from their mind.
I agree, Miracle- will be never be forgoten. And thats the reason everyone loves miracle my boy
Before ODpixel was screaming ceb's name, he was screaming miracle's name more times than I can count.. especially those antimage games ive seen
Miracle inspired me to play Dota in 2016 and I am still Herald after all. 😢
miracle was just too damn good
There must be some of categories for every position and other aspects.
But my true inspiration for playing Dota is master SingSing and AdmiralBulldog
Hahah
Miracle King of outplays . You know Vigoss he’s the goat in dota 1 king of ganks. RTZ and Eve king of farm 😅. Sumail king of mid. And w33ha king of pubs.
Toby king of casters. Puppey kin
Topson for creativity. Miracle for skills. Ceb for leadership.
All wanna see Miracle, but he needs better support than Kuro2k.
Miracle
i already quit dota but when miracle play cant stop watching it
Miracle
i think its really hard to say who the GOAT is because the new generation learned from the best and perfected their craft
players like miracle just learned on their own
for me miracle is the GOAT eventhough i think yatoro is much better than miracle was at his peak
its like comparing scientists from 1000 years ago with scientists today
every scientist from today can achieve more than the best scientist 1000 years ago could achieve
but they put the first pieces into place to make the next steps much easier
Highest individual peak = Miracle
Longest individual peak = Puppey
Best Team = TI 8 and 9 OG
Best team not wings gaming?😂
@@iancaesar24 anyone would claim wings is the best team is coping really hard 😅
@@belikearu did you even watch the games bro?
@@belikearuPlayers from OG legit said they were heavily inspired by Wings and wanted to adopt some of their play style and drafting. Wings could have been great but were screwed by their organization. We don’t know what would have happened to them
@@belikearu wings was the best, and thats a fact. So sad the "elders" in their organization is some hungry-money tanuki
miracle doing miracle things the name really synchronized to his gameplay
Miracle is like , Simp1e in CSGO.. both GOAT
Back in the day i always watch miracle gameplay in youtube, he is not even pro at that time but he is the no.1 player in the world at rhat time.
Miracle a Ti winner and Ti second place. First professional player to reach 9K mmr. I remember watching his gameplay before picking those hero in actual match. Now miracle can't leave NGX since his a co-founder unless, revoking his contract and ownership.
It's something else to hear Crit commending Ceb.
As a gamer that have seen dota since forever i can tell you one thing, there is no doubt that the best player that ever touched this game is Miracle by a far margin, when it comes to skill ceiling nobody will be even close to him, this guy is so good like if he doesnt play for 10 years he will be able to compete with the best in a short period of time.
Miracle is Messia of Dota no doubt about it.
Well my GOAT is ana. Dude is literally unranked and played for a week before joining TI yet still won 2 TI. Dude just made TI his summer job. Imagine if he played consistently.
In my opinion Jerex is the greatest player to ever press those keys
We only notice pos 1 and pos 2 unfortunately when the GOAT conversation is brought up
That’s just not true, people praise Jerax, Crit & Fy all the time, they’re absolute legends. Miracle- is just on another level, and other support players like Puppey have tons of achievements, along with captain credit. I’d say pos 4&2 are the noticed roles in terms of gameplay.