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  • @LivingSwedish
    @LivingSwedish  3 місяці тому +4

    I forgot to mention that the best account to open in Sweden is an ISK account (big thanks to everyone who pointed that out in the comments). An ISK account (Investeringssparkonto) in Sweden is a great way to invest because it makes things super easy with a flat tax rate based on your account's value, so you don't have to worry about capital gains tax on each trade. It handles tax reporting automatically, so there's no hassle. Plus, you can invest in a variety of things like stocks, bonds, and ETFs without any lock-in period. It's a flexible and user-friendly option, making it better than traditional investment accounts.
    More details provided by @Loff3t (thank you 🙂): “If you open an ISK/Kapitalförsäkring in Avanza/nordnet or any other place its as of now about 0.88% tax, íts fixed and related to interest rates. So you pay 8800sek tax if port is 1.000.000sek value per year, no matter of the gains. Any other type of account is 30% tax on profit.”

    • @matswinberg5045
      @matswinberg5045 3 місяці тому +3

      Good video and that you added info about investment accounts (ISK). ISK might be even more advantegous as the parliament majority have opted to introduce a 300000 SEK tax free limit on ISKs, which means if it comes to pass that you can have upto the equivalent of ca 30 thousand USD tax free on your ISKs. As always, especially in high tax countries like Sweden you need to know how the tax system works. In Nordnet but not in Avanza you can automatically invest montlhly in upto 4 ETFs of your choosing without "courtage".
      ISKs and KFs (capital insurance) are good investing vehicles for those, who like me, like passive income streams in the form of dividends as dividends in ISKs and KFs are not taxed as they are in "normal" accounts (depå in Swedish) with 30%. I have both a KF and ISK in Nordnet and ISK in Avanza. The Nordnet KF refunds foreign tax (normnally 15%)on dividends from foreign investments. In ISKs it is different as you have to request for tax reduction of your foreign tax in your tax form. Therefore it could be better to hold foreign investments in a KF. Note that in KF you do not own the investments (stocks, funds, ETFs etc) it is the brokerage firm that owns them even though you buy and sell in the KF. It is as the name suggests an insurance, if you die, the capital, usually 101% of the amount will go to the benificiary you have stated.
      I will also add that there are some contenders to the popular platforms Avanza and Nordnet. Like savr.se, levler.se, aktieinvest.se and there is also the European brokerage firm DeGiro present in Sweden, degiro.se. DeGiro could be interesting if you are European and perhaps not planning to stay permanently. But beware if you have an ISK and moves from Sweden, then your ISK will convert into a "depå" as only Swedish residents can have ISKs.
      If you want to diversify your investments further into other asset classes there are some crowdfunding platforms like kameo.se and tessin.se. There you can invest in loans to real estate projects.
      Finally, if you are interested in physical precious metals there are a plethora of European websites, for instance tavex.se which I believe is domiciled in Estonia. They also have stores in Stockholm.
      Happy investing!

    • @Nemo-se
      @Nemo-se 3 місяці тому +1

      ISK all the way 🙌 Sure you can do some stockpicking too if you want, as a side gig.

  • @tye2077
    @tye2077 3 місяці тому +1

    thank you for your videos! I want to move to Sweden and your videos really help with my research!

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks so much for your feedback! :)

  • @PerHolmqvist-b1s
    @PerHolmqvist-b1s 3 місяці тому +13

    I started to fondspara for my children (3 boys) when they were born. I put away only sek 200/month each and by their 18th birthday they had each sek 100 000,

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  3 місяці тому

      That's fantastic!! Thanks for sharing!

    • @HBHD1
      @HBHD1 3 місяці тому +1

      And now they gonna use it on beers and concerts and weed

    • @solomonobiechina3419
      @solomonobiechina3419 3 місяці тому

      @@HBHD1 haha

  • @megagiststv
    @megagiststv Місяць тому

    Great video. Can you make a video on how to use nordnet and avensa to invest, chose stock and make a withdrawal

  • @SuperCactus99
    @SuperCactus99 3 місяці тому +2

    I was also missing a comparison between the different types of accounts you can use to handle your stocks or funds in Sweden, as the taxation may vary depending on what type of account you actually use. (ISK = Investerarsparkonto, AK = Aktiekapitalkonto and finally KF = Kapitalförsäkring.) These types of accounts are available on all banks / platforms.
    Also, if you receive dividends from abroad, a "Kapitalförsäkring" (Capital Insurance) is preferrable in most cases.
    But you can actually have as many and different types of stock/fund accounts as you want.

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  3 місяці тому

      Thanks for your input! Much appreciated!

  • @chrippao1720
    @chrippao1720 3 місяці тому +2

    Great video and subject!

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  3 місяці тому

      Thanks so much for your feedback! :)

  • @reka2342
    @reka2342 19 днів тому +1

    Hi! Do you have a band ID to log in? Because it's a bit difficult to log in as a foreigner.

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  14 днів тому +1

      Yes, I have BankID. I think the only other way, if that's even possible, is to verify your identity with a passport. On Nordnet, it says to contact customer service and it's probably the same for Avanza.

  • @JustMWest
    @JustMWest Місяць тому +1

    Can I ask why you started investing with Nordnet if you already had Avanza? I'm trying to decide which one to start with.

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  Місяць тому

      I didn't really know about Nordnet when I started Avanza. I wanted to try out Nordnet as well and made this account for my children although it's still in my name. It was mainly curiosity 😊 Maybe have a look at the different funds (or shares) on each platform to make a decision 📈

  • @pavolkubecka2698
    @pavolkubecka2698 3 місяці тому +2

    Hey Uli, this is an interesting video. I have no idea how investing works but I`m interested in to invest. I wonder whether you could recommend any videos for beginners.. Also can I ask how it works if you want to take money out from your investment? And is there any risk that you can lose all your money?

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  3 місяці тому +2

      I recommend this UA-cam channel: www.youtube.com/@DamienTalksMoney/videos and these books "The Psychology of Money" and "Unshakeable: Your Guide to Financial Freedom Your Guide to Financial Freedom". I personally only invest in funds because they're diverse and therefore the risk is lower (but there is always a risk). Also look up S&P500. Good luck!

  • @ahlsn7346
    @ahlsn7346 3 місяці тому +2

    No mention of ISK which I think is the biggest pro in Sweden. Also a little heads up. IMF just declared SEK to be the worlds most undervalued currency by -17%. If SEK manage to get stronger then you will lose quite a bit of value on just currency conversion if you invest heavily in global companies. US and especially the tech sector have been performing very well by but there are several top investors who think it will be a good idea to put more focus in the Swedish market the coming 1-2 years. I will be doing that my self.

  • @audy.2023
    @audy.2023 3 місяці тому

    can you please do a detailed video about investigating for kids much appreciated thank you

  • @lifelearner10
    @lifelearner10 11 днів тому

    Nordnet is far better, especially because we can operate in English! It’s unbelievable that Avanza still “refusing” to have a English version.

  • @AdvocateOfJamaica
    @AdvocateOfJamaica 3 місяці тому +1

    How much (what percentage) do they tax your capital gains in Sweden?

    • @Loff3t
      @Loff3t 3 місяці тому +3

      If you open an ISK/Kapitalförsäkring in Avanza/nordnet or any other place its as of now about 0.88% tax, íts fixed and related to interest rates. So you pay 8800sek tax if port is 1.000.000sek value per year, no matter of the gains. Any other type of account is 30% tax on profit.

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  3 місяці тому +1

      Glad you already got a reply 🙏

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for replying to this question! Very much appreciated :)

    • @AdvocateOfJamaica
      @AdvocateOfJamaica 3 місяці тому

      @@Loff3t Thanks for answering my question.

  • @Rix.67
    @Rix.67 3 місяці тому +2

    This banks...is not the 'regular' banks in Sweden

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  3 місяці тому

      I wouldn't invest with a traditional bank. They charge higher fees and are not very transparent.

  • @HassanAdisa-sk7wi
    @HassanAdisa-sk7wi 3 місяці тому

    I'm eager to explore investment opportunities, but I'm uncertain about the first steps. Can you offer any guidance or introduce me to someone in your network who could provide valuable insights and support?

  • @MattiasHenriksson-sw7xw
    @MattiasHenriksson-sw7xw 3 місяці тому +1

    Didn’t know about the language. That is a weakness of Avanza to be fair. I prefer Avanza but I am swedish.
    Both these platforms are very good in my opinion. They are independent and does the same thing.
    The main thing is these are way better than the platforms of, for exemple, the platforms of individual Banks who basically has a much smaller stock to choose from, are more expensive, are not independent and biased to sell their own products which often are worse.
    The most important thing though, is to start invest at all. Many many people does not do this. And you can do it in what manner you want and you prefer or think is fun.
    The best adviceI like to give befinner who don’t has a lot of knowledge and/or dont wanna spend alot of time is to use a fond robot. There are many good ones and often gives as good results as doing an extensive work oneself.

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  3 місяці тому

      I totally agree! Thanks for sharing! :)

  • @rakeshmenon3296
    @rakeshmenon3296 3 місяці тому

    Great content, but wish you weren’t repeating same information again and again which makes me fast forward to actual useful content

  • @uverex251
    @uverex251 3 місяці тому +1

    Congratulation on your hard work!!! Remember there's Bitcoin also for investment!!!

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  3 місяці тому +1

      Ah, I'm not a fan of Bitcoin. It's too risky for me but I understand people invest in Bitcoin.

  • @Burningarrow7
    @Burningarrow7 9 днів тому

    Leave it to Swedes to not make a trading app in English aswell. Still living in their tiny little worlds

  • @xentrosdedsa9772
    @xentrosdedsa9772 День тому +1

    Nordnet its shit !!.

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  День тому

      Thanks for sharing! I want to know more!