@James Robert Coyle - yes, the vibro looks intense. Had a 1950s MAC 350 for a while when I was a student in the 1960s. Good bike, loved the adjustable rear suspension, which was useful when carrying a pillion. Vibration from the single was a thing, even then :) Looked a lot like this one, iirc: ua-cam.com/video/ylz596cGSh4/v-deo.html
Memories. My grandfather had a 350cc Velocette one-lunger, and some of my early memories are of riding on the back of it. I was less than 6 years old. Always loved Velo's, but never owned one, only single cylinder BSA's. (Nearly the same sound, with the right exhaust fitted.) I hope that you _can_ achieve the magic 200 mph. That would be even more special. All the best next time!
Burt Munro had set 138 miles per hour on his 1936 mss Velocette. It was supposedly the world's fastest Velocette. It is displayed in e Hayes and sons, invercargill
Very impressive. I'd always heard that Velocette motorcycles were very fast for what they were - single cylinder 500 cc bikes - but I had no idea they could be modified and made to go this fast. Great job! Stay safe!
The factory that i served my apprenticeship from 1967 until 1972 named The Moss Gear Company Limited Tyburn road Birmingham, made crown wheel and pinion drive gears for the Velocette motor cycle. Steve in Thailand.
For sure. Still hard to believe a one cyl bike could go 100 much less 193+mph. Very impressed by this bike. I had 6 bikes in my time with 2-3 & 4 cyl and my top speed was 145 mph on my best bike. And i got beat by a one piston job. But i,am very glad for the owner of that great bike. WOW,What a machine !
@@auggie803 Yes but you need to look at the money & special parts put into the machine (info is on line). 1st up it's not the original 500 cc but a 650 cc capacity engine. It's SUPERCHARGED. It runs methanol fuel with a bit of nitro. The speed run was impressive but in 2016 you only had to do it in 1 direction. The speed is only possible due to the streamlining. Look at his speeds on part streamlined versions in earlier years. Later on they've now made it 2 direction runs using Bonneville rules as a guide. The gearbox was modified (strengthened) & I think more was/has been done with that ? Then there's the pit crew numbers & all the resources they have on & off the salt flats. I'm a fan of the "battler" competitor with minimal money & pit crew etc. Burt Munro did over 200 mph on 1 run on his Indian in 1967. It was near to 1,000 cc but naturally aspirated & had around 100 hp. This Velocette would need to be putting out that amount of power to do the speeds that he does. Burt Munro only had a fraction of the resources that these Velocette guys have & technology has improved so much in 49 years & 53 years (2020). I'm just saying you have to look in to things in an apple vs apple way not an apple & an orange way. Burt had a Velocette, a 1936 model. Much modified but still was 500 cc & had part streamlining In 1964 in New Zealand on a closed for competition sealed public road he set a a record of 138 mph (very impressive).. So to go 200 mph (up 62 mph) you'd need to near triple the horse power. Not possible on a 500 cc naturally aspirated single.
i wondered how it went so fast on a 4 speed box then i saw the sprintex sticker , so i presume it was running methanol , did i see a nitrous bottle too? i was a development engineer at d p r sprintex uk many years ago
Now when I walk into my shed I feel I shall see my Velo KSS in a different realm...well done to you old farts ...Knowledge in abundance and 193mph from a "Blown Jam pot " is effing good stuff..
Uncle Quack They do it with the sprocket sizes. Shorter gearing for short tracks & longer gearing for long tracks/runs including salt flat speeds. A good example is on speedway bikes, so have a look at those then 1/2 the rear sprocket size & it would be so slow around the speedway (never reach maximum engine revs) but would have a very high top speed on a long open straight run.
Give it another gear and change the fuel mixture add a couple of turbos and larger intake and fuel lines with a little more fuel pressure and put a variable timing on it with some Ntiros and a little methane with a extra shot of alcohol with cooler fuel and she will hit 200 easy.
@Dan B. - Thumper indeed! Have a listen to the way he has to slip the clutch at low revs in that 90mph first gear! One bang every lamp-post once he gets the clutch fully engaged. Epic.
Remarkable achievement.... you need a LOT of horsepower to hit those speeds.... Is it still a 500? I guess you'll need close to 200hp to get over 200mph.... that'll take a lot of boost because of the rev limits of the engine. Good luck... I really think you guys can do it... :-)
Peter Moyes . I had a new Velocette Thruxton on order at Freddie Frith Motor cycles in Grimsby, England. It seemed to take ages coming and then found out the factory had stopped production. So I had to have a BSA Gold Star Clubmans DBD 34 instead. Still wish that Velo had been available. Too late now, if I got one couldnt ride the damned thing properly !.
Growing up I knew about HARLEY TRIUMPH BSA SNORTONS. Too many marques way too many to List! here. How the He'll did Velos escape my notice? I started competing 1973-74. Spanish ,Japanese European, VINCENT!I CURRENTLY HAVE A 1971 BSA A65L. OLD DOGS CAN LEARN APPARENTLY. THANKS 🎼
@@didzee002 i live in canada now ,but i had 2 velos when i lived in england the venom was my first ,,,but the thruxton was my dream ,,i was working at vauxhalls in luton ,,found a nice used one in leighton buzzard i also had a norton dommie all cafed out ,asked about a trade in ,,he said i will take the venom but we will not lower our standerds ,, with the norton .he was an old boy, with what looked like to me about a 15 yr old helper,, ,to the uninformed ,i would bet they could not start it in 3 kicks ,won many beers lol you are right you ask any velo fellow about putting the bugger in nuetral when you stop at alight ,,clutch drag ,,,great to hear the fish tail exhaust thump away ,,,,what great fun it was
@@petermoyes8766 A time when "a kipper for breakfast" with a strong mug Rosey Lea not a pop tart n skinny latte when all Clark(e)s was "Nobby"....you may like on Tubes of You rabbit hole .....RODE SAFELY 1955 FILM BY VICTOR HORSMAN PART 1.......part 2 may still be up ......the good /bad old days?
193.061 MPH had me looking up the elevation... 4,219 ft. That couldn't be it! So just what in the Cornbread Hell... did the builders eat, to make it that way? 53117
Amazing you guys almost 200 would you like to get the last bit ? ? If you could run 5 to 10% cooler = extra bhp, if it spun up faster through each gear smoother with less load less friction on all moving parts gaining several extra horsepower I think you would do it and also less likely to blow up due to a cooler motor you want to know how ? I'll tell you , get yourself some activ8 oil additive in the engine, it's used by all motorsport to top fuel drag car's I've got it in my bikes and car and have dyno miles and print outs to prove it also my word it amazing stuff I've met the owner in Scotland UK it took him 15 years to develop my car engine at 87k miles my mechanic said there was virtually no wear ha try it you will hit dead on 200 I'm positive! All the best matt.
Australian dollars are probably worth less than Canadian dollars. Plus it's a real remote location. Sank bar prices are probably as bad as the T shirt prices.
#Kirk "i'm just saying", nobody wants to hear silly, stupid ignorant remarks like yours, they are of no consequence to this video and the Velocette machine, so why bother yourself talking shit.
How come I wasn't surprised to hear the ozzy ascents, respect lads, from the UK
The camera shake at speed reveals the carburetors chaotic float bowl environment.
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@James Robert Coyle - yes, the vibro looks intense. Had a 1950s MAC 350 for a while when I was a student in the 1960s. Good bike, loved the adjustable rear suspension, which was useful when carrying a pillion. Vibration from the single was a thing, even then :) Looked a lot like this one, iirc: ua-cam.com/video/ylz596cGSh4/v-deo.html
I like to spike better than the Indian bike
Well done guys. Ex Nova Racing employee here. 😎👍🌟
Memories. My grandfather had a 350cc Velocette one-lunger, and some of my early memories are of riding on the back of it. I was less than 6 years old. Always loved Velo's, but never owned one, only single cylinder BSA's. (Nearly the same sound, with the right exhaust fitted.) I hope that you _can_ achieve the magic 200 mph. That would be even more special. All the best next time!
Wow!! didn't it sound sweet at near full chat... what a remarkable team of dedicated enthusiasts.
Burt Munro had set 138 miles per hour on his 1936 mss Velocette. It was supposedly the world's fastest Velocette. It is displayed in e Hayes and sons, invercargill
That is one big powerful single cylinder engine!!!!
$60 for it velocity😮 500cc Miranda Canton everywhere no lights in the back in the 60s I don't know what happened to it
The world's fastest velocity 500 singles
Right on 💯😊😊💯👍▶️😊
Amazing achievement, superb engineering, modest and quietly spoken genius. Epic.
That's a very rapid pace for any single cylinder motorcycle. Much higher than I would have guessed the record to be.
Very impressive. I'd always heard that Velocette motorcycles were very fast for what they were - single cylinder 500 cc bikes - but I had no idea they could be modified and made to go this fast. Great job! Stay safe!
First bike to do 100mph for 24 hours.
Absolutely beautiful sound This is the only music ever needed on these videos. Lovely old Bike. Well done to all involved.
Congratulations! Very good video! And compared to almost all speed-related videos, there is no rush and theatrical chaos... All in order.
And no music drowning out the engine sound!
Puts one in mind a time of "kippers for breakfast" and spanner men called Nobby .
What a hell of a thumper man! I hope everyone can imagine what it took to squeeze that kind of speed out of this engine..
The factory that i served my apprenticeship from 1967 until 1972 named The Moss Gear Company Limited Tyburn road Birmingham, made crown wheel and pinion drive gears for the Velocette motor cycle. Steve in Thailand.
I like the official officiating You have 25 minutes to get to the start or I will disqualify you no make that 15 minutes. What a legend.
On my travels 6 years ago drove down to the edge on my way to Alice springs. Absolutely breathtaking
What a great result ... so satisfying to see all that hard work and innovation in the development finally paying off.
Great job guys. Both the bike and the video were very impressive.
Beautiful bike. What an engine!
For sure. Still hard to believe a one cyl bike could go 100 much less 193+mph. Very impressed by this bike. I had 6 bikes in my time with 2-3 & 4 cyl and my top speed was 145 mph on my best bike. And i got beat by a one piston job. But i,am very glad for the owner of that great bike. WOW,What a machine !
@@auggie803
Yes but you need to look at the money & special parts put into the machine (info is on line). 1st up it's not the original 500 cc but a 650 cc capacity engine. It's SUPERCHARGED. It runs methanol fuel with a bit of nitro. The speed run was impressive but in 2016 you only had to do it in 1 direction. The speed is only possible due to the streamlining. Look at his speeds on part streamlined versions in earlier years. Later on they've now made it 2 direction runs using Bonneville rules as a guide. The gearbox was modified (strengthened) & I think more was/has been done with that ?
Then there's the pit crew numbers & all the resources they have on & off the salt flats. I'm a fan of the "battler" competitor with minimal money & pit crew etc.
Burt Munro did over 200 mph on 1 run on his Indian in 1967. It was near to 1,000 cc but naturally aspirated & had around 100 hp. This Velocette would need to be putting out that amount of power to do the speeds that he does. Burt Munro only had a fraction of the resources that these Velocette guys have & technology has improved so much in 49 years & 53 years (2020). I'm just saying you have to look in to things in an apple vs apple way not an apple & an orange way.
Burt had a Velocette, a 1936 model. Much modified but still was 500 cc & had part streamlining In 1964 in New Zealand on a closed for competition sealed public road he set a a record of 138 mph (very impressive).. So to go 200 mph (up 62 mph) you'd need to near triple the horse power. Not possible on a 500 cc naturally aspirated single.
The only thing missing was bike footage for the any of the runs themselves ...
Fantastic achievement. It even sounds like a real bike and how they get it to track in a straight line I cannot imagine. Not only clever but brave.
Thanks guys. Great video.
Well done lads, greetings from Cornwall.
Dydh da....
A success achieved in the workshop if ever there was one. Well done Australians.
First gear is quite the thing, well done gentlemen.
Having driven my roadster there back in the 90's ,Getting to run fast is one thing but the real challenge was the road to the lake...
Sound. Is so beautiful.
Svaka vam čast...veličanstven uspijeh!!! 👍
Pozdrav iz Croatia!😉
i wondered how it went so fast on a 4 speed box then i saw the sprintex sticker , so i presume it was running methanol , did i see a nitrous bottle too?
i was a development engineer at d p r sprintex uk many years ago
bloody awesome to hear that big old single hammering away in there.
this feels like how i feel going 50 mph on my 50cc
So how many power strokes per 100 feet at that speed?
Now when I walk into my shed I feel I shall see my Velo KSS in a different realm...well done to you old farts ...Knowledge in abundance and 193mph from a "Blown Jam pot " is effing good stuff..
My dad took his 500 Clubman to 116mph back in 59.
I know they went like shit off a shovel, a friend of mine had one in the 60s it would show my 500 triumph the way home.
What are those pistons you are using?
Respect .
Wow, that's better than my 1961 Clubmans DBD 34.
how much Velocette is left ,i ask,but great bike,real fast too,good job guys
Sweet.....
You guys will be at 200 in no time😉
Great work fella's! It sounds like is just ticking over, if you can up the rev's a bit it should break 200!!
Incredible!! At full rpm my push mower sounds worse! Good work lads
How do you get 90 mph in 1st gear? they must really re work the gear ratios.
Uncle Quack
They do it with the sprocket sizes. Shorter gearing for short tracks & longer gearing for long tracks/runs including salt flat speeds. A good example is on speedway bikes, so have a look at those then 1/2 the rear sprocket size & it would be so slow around the speedway (never reach maximum engine revs) but would have a very high top speed on a long open straight run.
What cc, is it a Thruxton or ohc ktt ?
500cc single
peter moyes ...no, in the linked website he states that it is a custom 700cc.
Well and truly the fastest fossil on a Velocette!!
Missed you all this year Seeya next year. S&B Harky
Harky on Trac
Give it another gear and change the fuel mixture add a couple of turbos and larger intake and fuel lines with a little more fuel pressure and put a variable timing on it with some Ntiros and a little methane with a extra shot of alcohol with cooler fuel and she will hit 200 easy.
Oh, is that all? Lol
How anybody can give this a thumbs down I don't know. Maybe they don't get any or something 🤷🏻♂️
SO IS IT STILL A "THUMPER" ?
@Dan B. - Thumper indeed! Have a listen to the way he has to slip the clutch at low revs in that 90mph first gear! One bang every lamp-post once he gets the clutch fully engaged. Epic.
Remarkable achievement.... you need a LOT of horsepower to hit those speeds.... Is it still a 500? I guess you'll need close to 200hp to get over 200mph.... that'll take a lot of boost because of the rev limits of the engine.
Good luck... I really think you guys can do it... :-)
loved my THRUXTON ,,sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
Peter Moyes . I had a new Velocette Thruxton on order at Freddie Frith Motor cycles in Grimsby, England. It seemed to take ages coming and then found out the factory had stopped production. So I had to have a BSA Gold Star Clubmans DBD 34 instead. Still wish that Velo had been available. Too late now, if I got one couldnt ride the damned thing properly !.
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chapeau 1 cylindre 650cc bravo
Just a tad faster than my Thruckston in its day methinks.
Thruxton please
Growing up I knew about HARLEY TRIUMPH BSA SNORTONS. Too many marques way too many to List! here. How the He'll did Velos escape my notice? I started competing 1973-74. Spanish ,Japanese European, VINCENT!I CURRENTLY HAVE A 1971 BSA A65L. OLD DOGS CAN LEARN APPARENTLY. THANKS 🎼
You have to be a Velo Felo, to know!!
@@didzee002 i live in canada now ,but i had 2 velos when i lived in england the venom was my first ,,,but the thruxton was my dream ,,i was working at vauxhalls in luton ,,found a nice used one in leighton buzzard i also had a norton dommie all cafed out ,asked about a trade in ,,he said i will take the venom but we will not lower our standerds ,, with the norton .he was an old boy, with what looked like to me about a 15 yr old helper,, ,to the uninformed ,i would bet they could not start it in 3 kicks ,won many beers lol you are right you ask any velo fellow about putting the bugger in nuetral when you stop at alight ,,clutch drag ,,,great to hear the fish tail exhaust thump away ,,,,what great fun it was
@@petermoyes8766 A time when "a kipper for breakfast" with a strong mug Rosey Lea not a pop tart n skinny latte when all Clark(e)s was "Nobby"....you may like on Tubes of You rabbit hole .....RODE SAFELY 1955 FILM BY VICTOR HORSMAN PART 1.......part 2 may still be up ......the good /bad old days?
310 KM/H !!!!
10 in 4th gear? Very nice. Don't ask me how I know, but a certain 1300 V twin in 4th gear tops out at 110. Nice set up.
modified Honda single piston scooter in Thailand can reach to 203 kph
@กระบะ ดีเซล - 203 kph is OK for a scooter, but 203 kph is not 193 MPH!
@@250tegra oh Sorry 😅😅😅😅
I’ve just noticed when you commented.
They don't build them like this any more.
193.061 MPH had me looking up the elevation... 4,219 ft. That couldn't be it!
So just what in the Cornbread Hell... did the builders eat, to make it that way? 53117
Lake Gairdner elevation = 111 feet above sea level. Mount Woodroffe is the highest point in South Australia and it is only 4,708 feet.
23 pounds of supercharger boost will fix any altitude air problems...
@@MrTerrymiff
The height I get is 397 feet. Bonneville is 4,320 feet. Lake Gairdner is a better bet because it's so much closer to sea level.
Amazing you guys almost 200 would you like to get the last bit ? ? If you could run 5 to 10% cooler = extra bhp, if it spun up faster through each gear smoother with less load less friction on all moving parts gaining several extra horsepower I think you would do it and also less likely to blow up due to a cooler motor you want to know how ? I'll tell you , get yourself some activ8 oil additive in the engine, it's used by all motorsport to top fuel drag car's I've got it in my bikes and car and have dyno miles and print outs to prove it also my word it amazing stuff I've met the owner in Scotland UK it took him 15 years to develop my car engine at 87k miles my mechanic said there was virtually no wear ha try it you will hit dead on 200 I'm positive! All the best matt.
The words Grandma and Eggs spring to mind.
That bike is not a vallacet.
And you can't spell
@@pbysome Maybe he's comically mimicking the Australian pronunciation?
No it isn't it's a Velocette.
Not bad for a mower engine 🤣
$30 for a freakin' T-Shirt........?????
The cheap ones don't freak.
Australian dollars are probably worth less than Canadian dollars. Plus it's a real remote location. Sank bar prices are probably as bad as the T shirt prices.
They sold out when they reduced the price to A$22
We already watched the worlds fastest Indian. No need to watch this guy go slower.
Not that impressed my naked stock 40 year old GS1000 will do 155 in 5th gear
The Velocette has only one cylinder, GS 1000 has four 👀
@@haraldpettersen3649 yes I'm aware..and this bike is a 40k race bike and mine is 4k street bike so I'm just saying
Your Suzuki is a very god Motorcycle, no doubt. that i know of exsperience
......according to YOUR speedometer...........
#Kirk "i'm just saying", nobody wants to hear silly, stupid ignorant remarks like yours, they are of no consequence to this video and the Velocette machine, so why bother yourself talking shit.