New Bandit EVO is a GAME CHANGER for Season 5 Halo Infinite
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
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(0:00) Intro
(2:00) Bandit EVO Breakdown
(6:15) Will Forbidden work in Comp?
(7:52) NEW Extraction details
(10:18) Final thoughts
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343 should do a campaign update, one that adds more quality of life improvements, including adding new weapons from multiplayer
Yes new weapons please for the love of god
This comment could not be less relevant to the video it's posted on 🤦🏼♂️ you're screaming into the void, if you want actual change you need to submit a ticket with 343 or make a post somewhere they will actually read it. I really will never understand why people even bother typing these out.. what are you trying to achieve? I'm asking genuinely btw I don't mean to sound dry, just seriously confused as to what you think this comment will do?
@@4bidn1 I'm not understanding how you don't understand that it's still a halo comment on a halo video. If a larger point needs to be made it would be about how "behind" campaign is compared to all the updates multiplayer is getting. My hope is that someday 343 will finish campaign couch coop.
@@yeahBradley why should they finish it? the campaign wasnt even good. the "open world" hurt the game and they didnt make a direct sequel to Halo 5 with Master Chief, Fireteam Osiris, and the Arbiter/Vadam Keep on Sanghelios so they can get bent
there is a reason why the game is call infinite, bc that is the plan to keep that game and never make a sequel
Super excited for the new Bandit EVO along with everything else that season 5 will bring!
BATTLE RIFLE IS KING
Bandit EVO=DMR
@@hectordiaz1575 NOT CLOSE THE HALO REACH & HALO 4 DMR HAD LONGER SIGHT RANGE THIS ONE IS LIKE THE HALO 5 DMR NOT A CLASSIC ONE
bandit evo starts will bring me back to this game 1000%
Im gonna tune in at the watch party. Dude watching this video got me so happy. I thought the original bandit gave me that halo 5 feeling, but this version of it definitely gave me that feeling. But i think this will be s start for btb.
I got to play this today at HCS and I loved it ! It feels amazing, the only thing would be a better gun sound for it. But everything else is just awesome!
Love your content, i left after halo 3 due to school, came back briefly for halo 5, and now just enjoying halo infiinite. I dont have money for an xbox or anything but i am so happy and excited for world championship this weekend, thanks for your content
Think the Br should be a sandbox weapon with the bandit start
No
But the bandit has a faster ttk than the br.... making it a power weapon over the br. So making the br part of the sand box makes no sense.
@lordapplesauce4323 as someone who has been using the bandit constantly since the last major update. Gonna have to say you're wrong. The bandit kills faster, and when you hit your shots, you know it.
Now the br out classes the bandit at range 100% Close to mid range the bandit is a power house.
@@IAmmzyIthe difference in TTK is negligible. It's like saying that the bulldog is better than the heatwave because it's got an ever so slightly higher RoF
Things like aim assist, bullet magnetism, optics, ammo count, etc. all matter, and the BR has every other category over the bandit
@@armstronggaming8566 its not negligible.... getting that 5th shot out happens before the 4th on the br. In the correct setting close to mid range, in ranked play. The bandit is a power weapon over the br. That's just a fact of how the gun is for ranked.
You want to just use the br, then keep on with what makes you happy. I will keep picking it up and abusing what gives it an edge over the br, for more ranked wins.
Not too many people have mentioned this but I think the Bandit Evo looks really cool! The holographic scope looks really nice on it! And wait a second. The red counter looks pretty good too
i think the red counter it's due to whatch dog neo coating...but ya it's pretty dope
It's basically a DMR
Know what... It kinda looks like a Destiny scout rifle lol
@@leon.2747destiny weapons look good so it’s a w
@@soup8680 "Indeed"
4:41 I had no idea you could break a drop wall like that until just now 🤯
hey man been watching you since infinites release. Love your videos and deep understanding of the game. You're a big reason I still play the game after i got Onyx, the skill ceiling is deceptively high in Infinite. Keep it up Youre my favorite Halo creator by far!
This will probably be The best worlds of Halo infinite. I also can’t wait for the Bandit Evo
Appreciate the breakdown 🔥🔥🔥
Hi Shyway! I really, really liked your video on Lqgend's overkill. I was jumping off my couch watching it at home, haha. May I ask how you got ahold of the VOD/theatre replay, and is it available to the public? Another great video, man!
Thanks! If you want to watch a pros theatre gameplay you have to add their GT to your friends list - access their profile through the in-game menu and check their match history. If the pro has their custom games available to view, you can watch them. Not all pros allow this though - I had to add the whole team and I got lucky (tchik has his custom games viewable) ;)
Definitely tuning in with you during the Optic games ! Rooting for the green wall 😈 I like the passion you bring during the streams
I think it'd be interesting if they made the starting weapon rotate between the bandlt and BR depending on the map and game mode.
Regarding the shared starting weapons discussion, despite the Bandit rifle having a shorter time to kill, I don't believe it would be widely adopted ATT ALL. The BR is simply too consistent and versatile. It's easier to use, boasts an excessively too reliable headshot hit rate, and can precisely hit targets from great distances. I don't think the potentially slightly shorter kill time that comes with the Bandit rifle would compensate for these aspects. Thus, having a choice wouldn't alter the preference much. The BR would still be the CLEAR favored choice in both HCS and ranked playlists.
Personally, I would prefer for the BR to remain as the primary starting weapon, but only if it undergoes changes to reduce its consistency and increase the overall skill gap. This could be achieved by widening the time-to-kill difference between the fastest and average kill times with the gun( Right now they are laughably close.) . Headshots could be much harder to hit and be more of a game-changing factor in BR-duels e.g.
Thats my take.
Love all of your videos dude! This is somewhat unrelated to the topic of this video, but could you make a video explaining the dance dynamic of Halo Infinite multiplayer (like spawns, team formations, weapons, etc...) and where to get that information (like map knowledge)? I feel like that is one of the things that is holding me back the most. You know, other than my gun skill level lol
I think shyway should be my starting weapon. Halo infinites ambassador if you ask me 😁
I'm hoping 343 can keep the momentum going! Season 5 seems like it's going to be the best yet.
I prefer the br over bandit start just because of how iconic it is. I would be fine with a bandit start though. But they should definitely NOT make it a choice between the two. Because I think the BR would almost always out-preform the bandit. BR is much easier to use and more forgiving due to burst plus better range.
Bandit will win especially if they really did reduce the recoil and bloom... controller AA paired with the actual roller skills the pros have makes this gun an absolute laser beam.
I am curious tho what a team with a mix of starting weapons would look like, cause the BR definitely has a different ideal range to the bandit, so it makes sense to have a mix on your side, I just know for a fact mid-range 1v1's go to this easy-mode bandit every single time
Not exactly. That Countdown/Dredge map sold me on the bandit. It was literally easier and faster to kill people with it at those ranges than the BR. But yes, not as forgiving for the final headshot.
The br imo is worse and I’m glad we’re switching to bandit starts, stopped liking the battle rifle back in reach, DMR gang rise up
This new bandit looks far superior than the BR and way easier to use but well see
So happy that they're changing the starting weapon, the BR is brainless anyone who says otherwise can't aim.
I always feel like i should be handed a diploma or something every time i finish watching one of Shyway's vids.
School is in session, kiddies!
I hadn't heard about the Evo bandit before this, it sounds pretty interesting and I'm definitely looking forward to getting my hands on it in the future
coming back to this after playing s5. the bandit evo is a game-changer for MK players. it feels so much better to use than the br.
im glad the made it an overlay HUD type zoom
since you did the season 5 video and bringing up how there's some weird AA problems with the BR on m&k, been trying out the DMR and it is way better
I woiuld love to see some sort of hybrid starts between both weapons
Love how the map looks like old school 360 era Halo with bloom and the colors
The reversals and display of skill that will be shown in future hcs events with bandit starts are going to be hype, I think players like bound and frosty are going to start shining a little brighter again
Smellbringer and Loyal Opp coatings look sick af. Also the fact that the new maps are set in Sanghelios gives me hope for more Rakshasa lore, it being the first armor core inspired by Sanghelli culture
I'm excited for the change, it's so easy to snap to some that's one shot and get a kill with the BR. I think this should make playing aggressively more rewarding because it will be easier to survive close exchanges if your movement is cracked.
Wait wtf I’m blindsided by the bandit with the sight
Awesome!
Just the video i was looking for good call 🤙
so excited for the bandit
Dude the Bandit EVO finally a freaking scope !!!! I love how HALO: INFINITE is making a good comeback. You got me hype and I was just playing this game yesterday !!!!
I'm watching this weekend for the "Sweep Success" charm alone. It looks like a Kingdom Hearts key chain. I need it.
Personally I think the bandit would be better on maps like pit, or Argyle, even live fire, whereas the BR would be a starting weapon for tighter maps like Aquarius. It sounds backwards but I think it would make it better. One of the issues on pit and Argyle is the ability to easily cross map a team, even if they are manipulating spawns well, and the bandit would remove that, at least a bit. Just my opinion though.
Good opinion^ I agree.
My thoughts exactly but doubt they'll do this would be cool though
Alternating starts! "Oh you're a Halo Pro? Prove it" therefore, PLASMA PISTOL STARTS ON LIVE FIRE!!!!!! 💫
@@adri.progression plasma nade only starts
I LOVE THAT IDEA! Maybe one of the tournaments is just Team Escalation but each match is a tier from Gun Game@@matthewcrook6351
Now that you mention being able to choose bandit or BR, I think loadouts should come back, but more along the lines of H2A and as a custom games option only.
I think bandit evo and BR varying by map would be the best. Not so sure about having loadouts. I’m not against it but I can see people going through PTSD from the H4 days and I don’t think our scene needs that negativity even though it’s not anywhere close to the same.
One thing about nades I would love to see is having to press x to pick up nades like how guns work. Having to put more thoughts into nade management instead of just expecting to have them on hand all the time would be nice. Same for equipment
Ptsd 😂
I want it NOW!!! 😅
If they were gonna share br + bandit it makes sm more sense to have it be for certain maps and modes. Loadouts are just silly think it would defeat the whole purpose to do it the loadout way
But wouldnt want that br just isnt fun in comp cross map machine
I'm super happy that the Bandit will be the starter. The BR is so easy and consistent that it can make using other weapons a bit pointless. I'm actually not sure if I prefer the Evo from the look of things, because getting a Perfect with the normal Bandit feels so damn good _because_ it's pretty tough to use... but I imagine on a controller it's kinda wild. In any case I _want_ the Bandit to be a bit worse than the BR overall so a choice between both would be a no-go.
I don't like the idea of loadouts in ranked, although I wish they were a think for customs and firefight. One interesting thing though is it would potentially reward players for close-range kills by letting them pick up a second weapon. OTOH, teammates could do the same.
My preference would be just Bandit, with a couple BRs on each map for fans of it.
I always thought the Bandit needed a scope, both for aesthetics and gameplay. Glad to see it getting added. Hope it's the default in unranked too.
i love how it has the og reach crosshair
Are the no scope controls of the evo the same as for the normal Bandit ?
as an mnk player, I'm hyped on this
I think maybe on every ranked map have at least 1 BR per side so at least there's a 25% chance to always have a bR
Imo the ideal Ranked playlists would be:
Arena (4v4 Bandit EVO)
Team Slayer (4v4 BR)
FFA Slayer (6 Player Bandit EVO)
Doubles (2v2 BR Slayer)
Rotational (2 or 3 week rotation): Tactical Slayer (4v4 BR and Bandit EVO), Classic Halo (4v4 CHL maps and settings), Elimination (4v4 Bandit EVO), Snipers (4v4).
I would love the option to play as our spartan in campaign too
Really glad they're doing the 2v2 with Bandit EVO. Should give us a real good picture of what it could look like in 4v4 comp.
oh an upgrade version of the bandit. nice. (can we finally have br/sidekick starts?) that would balance with this on a map.
I think we should have one frag and Bandit EVO starts in ranked arena. Maybe more BR weapon pad placements (like replacing the totally broken needler) or maybe a Ranked BRs playlist.
I have played Halo on both MnK and controler but mostly MnK. If this is true, I wil be really pleased with it. Because, with the BR, on MnK, it's almost impossible to get a Perfect while on controler its fairly common. I don't know why, but on MnK almost always I kill with 6-7 bursts but on controller it is usually 5. But with the Bandit, I can consistently get Perfects on MnK, for me it's the go to weapon along side the Commando and Sidekick
I kinda like the idea of map specific starts.
Bandits! And 1 nade for every map! Maybe be able to pick up 1 of each name only so technically you can still get 4 but it is harder
personally, i'd like a loadout option depending on what you prefer. i'm a mnk player so i liked using the bandit the most i picked it most of the time when playing ranked. especially in solitude with the close quarters you could 5 someone very fast if you perfected them. but some maps don't have bandits which is annoying and others like streets and live fire they spawn in such an annoying location that takes you away from the fight in most scenarios.
i'll be there live at worlds I hope there's a way to get a sneak preview and possible an available computer to playtest the new build. wish me luck @ the ffa tournament! :]
The battle rifle is the gun I practice with the most because if I get my hands on it, I want to actually be good with it and help my team out properly, so I've been sweating my ass off in Weapon Drills and Joseph Zander's "Aim Trainer" map/mode. The second I took the EVO to the range, I noticed an immediate difference. Nothing will ever replace the battle rifle for me, but I actually like the DMR now. Slap a reflex optic on any weapon, I'll like it, but this thing is a headshot magnet.
I make maps for my friends and I to run up custom games on and we try hard when we play against each other all in the name of good fun and we play with only 1 frag, we found it just made the game more enjoyable for the sandbox! It made the weapon battles feed better and made grenade spawns matter more!
Definitely should spawn 1 frag, big agree
I think that the Bandit and the BR can definitely share the spotlight. However it won't be chosen for death it'll be a starting weapon for the game type like when they have multiple different Slayer matches for a best-of-five
They must make a ranked br, because as old halo veteran, no br in ranked sucks. Or start with br and evo.
Do we know if the Bandit EVO will be available in casual play?
6:08 i can say with certainty we should never have the starting weapon change per map basis, on that i think we can at least all agree regardless of how ppl feel about the new dmr lite starts
What is the TTK of the Evo? The same as the Bandit?
you rock dude
The bandit and BR should be a 50/50 chance to be the spawn weapon in each match simulation; a couple pickups of BR on Bandit starts is fine, and vice versa.
The thing I'm excited about is knowing how much damage to expect my opponent to be receiving when I shoot them with the Bandit Evo. It's hard to tell much of the time with the BR.
It would be cool to see the bandit and the br be perfect alternatives of each other. Not one being better than the other necessary. Kind of like the same dynamic the vandal and phantom have in valorant.
If the evo becomes the starting weapon in ranked, I want a br only mode
There's gonna be a halo 3 playlist
As an MNK player, I don't even think I will use this scope. Descope is brutal and a zoom of 1.6x won't give enough of an accuracy improvement to be worth it in most fights.
I thought the reticle looked like the DMR’s reticle. Feels like Reach’s dmr is making a comeback woohoo 🥳
Damn, I kind of wanted the mutilator shotgun that looks pretty cool and unique
I don't personally mind whether we have the BR or DMR for starting weapon, but I'd love to see the SMG come back as secondary start.
i wonder where i heard you say this before lol. ill decide once i try it.
What modes will this be added to
I would say keep the starting weapon the same across the board for players, so in this example, the Bandit Evo, and then have the BR as a shelf sandbox weapon. I think this would maintain consistency for competitive play, especially when you’re coming off of a new life, as opposed to the pros being able to choose. Or, perhaps they could have certain maps start with the BR, and others with the Bandit. Though then again, that brings up the conversation of consistency.
Is there a chance 343 would update their controller settings? I just wish they would add other response curves like apex and cod does and also a slider to control aim assist strength.
Great the Magnum from Halo 5 has returned… as long as it stays in competitive I’m all good! :)
LETS GO OPTIC!!! 👏👏👏👏👏
Different modes with different starting weapons is the perfect harmony
I have always preferred a BR start for aesthetic reasons, but for competitive playlists the current version of it has been OP since the game came out. There ae certain maps you can barely move on against even decent players because cross mapping is so easy with the BR. In past titles like H3 you could cross map effectively with a BR but it took a ton of skill to lead your shots, in infinite pretty much anyone can beam from long distance after playing the game for a week. Bandit starts will widen the skill gap considerably, and also allow players to move on the map more and make creative plays. The bandit may not be perfect or everyone's favorite but I do think a change was necessary.
about extraction: yes mind games are a thing in similar games (Counter-Strike): Pros don't fake
RIP to the commando and original bandit, this looks so much better
Bandit EVO/Sidekick is the ideal starting loadout
Your vids are so interesting i think.
I wonder if we'll ever get campaign dlc's. Imagine a dlc with a open map on a chain of islands based off of the Silent Cartographer or a dlc where you play as the banished after a flood containment breach similar to awakening the nightmare
Microsoft fired the campaign team
So we won't get a campaign DLC until earliest 2027
I am more curious if Bandit Evo could work in BTB. Depends on how long range capable it is.
I dont want a choice that opens up room for loadouts which isnt the direction i want halo going, but i like the idea of having certain maps being br or others being bandit.
How do we have small sight but commandos just biger
Wasnt the issue woth the BR was ots too easy to use? How is an even easier weapon better?
The bandit evo looks like the reach DMR with no bloom.
I personally like the bandit starts alot but i think there should be more BR's on the map. Not like a ton but if there was one in each base that would be cool
I think it would be nice to just have the bandit as a starting weapon, and then switch it up if changes need to be made
When is assault coming?
Comp should be BR starts with bandit evo as secondary for outplay scenarios. The cadence of the BR and the dance that creates is fundamental to the feeling of competitive halo. It’s a big reason why H5 pistol alienated so many people.
God no, if I wanted a brainless point & click adventure I'd go play a social playlist. It should the bandit starts only with the BR being located around the map on weapon racks. The entire point of ranked is skill expression, the BR is the exact opposite of that. It's sooooo easy to use and extremely consistent.
I'd be okay with getting to select between BR and Bandit Evo. But I was a fan of Reach and H4's loadouts so I'm weird lmao
The idea of choosing would be good but sadly doubt they would do it
.I started with CE but sunk 10s of thousands of hours into 2 & 3. So a good feeling BR in comp is a good feeling halo game to me. People say it's OP. But when everyone has it, it's NOT op it's just who's more skilled with it. A map drop BR makes it more OP than a start. People also say the game is more forgiving without BR starts. But bandit will be just as opressive. All it's damage is in one shot. The BR had to land all 3 for full dmg. So it evens out in the end.
The bandit rifle has never felt like halo to me. I didn't like the DMR either. If rather have slayer AR starts in comp that to replace the BR with a bandit. It will feel less like a halo game & more like a generic pc shooter
I feel like that's baki on his shirt
It is baki, good catch
@@Shyway ty had me getting all hyped up after that recent season
Is that a scope?
Time to find some people to play BR 8's with i guess :(. Glad some people are saying it going to bring them back to halo tho.