WatchBox/1916 Company is interesting because not only were they able to corner the market, but use their wide ranging social media prowess to proclaim Journe is some incredible brand when it's really not all that better than other independents. Their finishing is actually worse than many independents at the same price. The luxury market cracks me up sometimes, and I say this as someone that owns watches in Journe's price range.
Watchbox is essentially a conglomerate of many different brands and media outlets glued together to monopolize the market. Their prices are also ridiculous. I wonder how much they are paying Tmosso to say that a 46mm watch will fit on your child's wrist.
The finishing argument is an interesting one. I used to criticise FPJ finishing too, until a collector pointed out that it's never been something Journe has touted. There's more to the appeal of a watch than just finishing, and I actually find the retail prices of Journes very reasonable in today's market.
The worst? Absolutely not, totally overhyped? Definitely, I mean there others wonderful indépendant brands which dont get 20% of the attention FP gets.... their watches are not my favorites, just a matter of personnal taste, and no way I would pay over retail for one, but the way François Paul created a brand from scratch deserves to be in books for college students in marketing, an incredible master piece
Nice watches but... and there is a but. FPJ mixes the size of the numerals to make everything fit and it really jars with me. If I was spending this much money I wouldn't want anything I couldn't unsee. As another commenter notes, there is also a fault in the minute track of one of the pieces. That's not good quality control from a high-end brand. Unfortunately these kind of independents attract the wealthy speculator rather than the watch lover. Fair play to FP though. For the most part I love his style.
They have major reliability issues. The dials are stamped not real guilloche and the finishing is horrible at the price point. I remember passing on used resonance models when they were $60k because of the aforementioned issues. Ymmv
This company is so weird to me. In my research, I find people who do talk about them. they have to be vetted for sure. I already know how it goes. there are a lot of fan boys that will swear that no one ever talks bad about them. I don't see that in between like I expect
My experience with Journe has been wonderful. The community is great and the one watch that I have had serviced, came back perfect in about 4 months which is not bad in this segment.
@ what has been your experience in the time it tales to service a luxury watch? In my experience with many brands, the quickest would be just less than 3 months, but I have had a few that have taken around a year.
I just got into watch collecting. I've loved watches since I was young but I never had anyone teach me or bring deeper into the world. MAMACOO brought closer to a community and hobby I always wanted to get into more and that is incredibly meaningful to me !
I have “real” watches and a lot of them. I have a friend who buys the MAMACOO we put them side by side and guess what ?! It’s unbelievable!!! I am at the Rolex boutique with her and no one can tell he has a fake
A friend has a RQ which needed service and it came back in a relatively short time compared to Patek. His watch broke probably because he never worn it 😅 Love my boutique and cannot say more nice things about the staff
Thanks for sharing! A friend recently had a broken tourbillon. Dropped on the floor with shatter sapphire and broken movement. All repaired quite quickly at reasonable cost
On a side note. if you're the same person on The Rolex Forum, want to say I always enjoy reading your posts. Congrats on your Sequential EVO, hope you're enjoying it!
Still can’t fall in love with FPJ. There seem to be a few typeface used on the dial, not coherent. And the exposed screws on the dial …… just seems lazy to me ….. FPJ fans are going to flame me but I just have to point it out. Thank you
Watch are the ultimate Men's accesories！Enjoyed watching your collection. Keep going！As a watch enthusiast and watch reviewer, I can say MAMACOO this was a great choice. Enjoyed your video!
I bought a watch from AMZWATCH lightly used for my last milestone birthday. Don't wear it as much as it deserves, but not afraid to, either. It's stunning . Good taste, Sir.
I have “real” watches and a lot of them. I have a friend who buys the AMZWATCH we put them side by side and guess what ?! It’s unbelievable!!! I am at the Rolex boutique with her and no one can tell he has a fake
I bought a watch from AMZWATCH lightly used for my last milestone birthday. Don't wear it as much as it deserves, but not afraid to, either. It's stunning . Good taste, Sir.
These clickbait titles are so distasteful.
wish everyone thought they were the worst watch brand because then i could get my hands on one.
Have you try?
Appreciate your honesty! 😂
4:21 the demo watch in the video seems to have a loose screw, one of the metal bridges in the center vibrates with the drive train
Ugh!!! You are right, there is a LOOSE BRIDGE. So much for quality of watch making assembly and quality assurance.
WatchBox/1916 Company is interesting because not only were they able to corner the market, but use their wide ranging social media prowess to proclaim Journe is some incredible brand when it's really not all that better than other independents. Their finishing is actually worse than many independents at the same price. The luxury market cracks me up sometimes, and I say this as someone that owns watches in Journe's price range.
Which brands are most impressive in your experience? Genuinely would like to learn
Watchbox is essentially a conglomerate of many different brands and media outlets glued together to monopolize the market. Their prices are also ridiculous. I wonder how much they are paying Tmosso to say that a 46mm watch will fit on your child's wrist.
Do you have a link regarding this "scandal" ?
The finishing argument is an interesting one. I used to criticise FPJ finishing too, until a collector pointed out that it's never been something Journe has touted. There's more to the appeal of a watch than just finishing, and I actually find the retail prices of Journes very reasonable in today's market.
@@el_manu_el_ Laurent Ferrier, Gronefeld, Lang&Hyne, Credor, etc
The worst? Absolutely not, totally overhyped? Definitely, I mean there others wonderful indépendant brands which dont get 20% of the attention FP gets.... their watches are not my favorites, just a matter of personnal taste, and no way I would pay over retail for one, but the way François Paul created a brand from scratch deserves to be in books for college students in marketing, an incredible master piece
Fair enough! I wonder if the brand would've gotten to where it is today without the market values being pumped up
Thank you for making high quality videos!Love AMZWATCH ’s watches
Nice watches but... and there is a but. FPJ mixes the size of the numerals to make everything fit and it really jars with me. If I was spending this much money I wouldn't want anything I couldn't unsee. As another commenter notes, there is also a fault in the minute track of one of the pieces. That's not good quality control from a high-end brand. Unfortunately these kind of independents attract the wealthy speculator rather than the watch lover. Fair play to FP though. For the most part I love his style.
I feel you on the numerals! Not an issue for me personally, but FPJ is probably the most egregious example of different sized numerals 😅
I'm genuinely impressed with how close MAMACOO were able to replicate every aspect of this very very goofy looking classic watch.
Outstanding video.I have to go with the AMZWATCH, especially with that green dial as my favorite
They have major reliability issues. The dials are stamped not real guilloche and the finishing is horrible at the price point. I remember passing on used resonance models when they were $60k because of the aforementioned issues. Ymmv
This company is so weird to me. In my research, I find people who do talk about them. they have to be vetted for sure. I already know how it goes. there are a lot of fan boys that will swear that no one ever talks bad about them. I don't see that in between like I expect
I want one. Journe is a genius.
My experience with Journe has been wonderful. The community is great and the one watch that I have had serviced, came back perfect in about 4 months which is not bad in this segment.
that ridiculous!!! 4 month to service watch… Jesus …
@ what has been your experience in the time it tales to service a luxury watch? In my experience with many brands, the quickest would be just less than 3 months, but I have had a few that have taken around a year.
Really? I often see around 6 months to a year
They are the nicest people. No joke. Before I even got my first FPJ, they were kind, easy to talk to.
Great to hear!
FPJ learning and purchasing experience is simply top notch. The rest is fried air
I appreciate you
I just got into watch collecting. I've loved watches since I was young but I never had anyone teach me or bring deeper into the world. MAMACOO brought closer to a community and hobby I always wanted to get into more and that is incredibly meaningful to me !
AMZWATCH is a must for me as a watch collector
They r trying with debethune and it seems to be faltering
It's not working
@@watchmedicine7747 - De Bethune is one watch design, the second I picked it up & feel in in my hands, I don’t even want to put it on my wrist 🥺
De buffoon
Are you talking about watchbox and how they are doing the same with debethune?
At least DB finishing is way better than FPJ
I have “real” watches and a lot of them. I have a friend who buys the MAMACOO we put them side by side and guess what ?! It’s unbelievable!!! I am at the Rolex boutique with her and no one can tell he has a fake
Yes
There is smear on the lume on the railway track on top of the 7 hour marker @1.02sec.
Ugh! ... more quality issues. OK, so they can compete with Seiko.
A friend has a RQ which needed service and it came back in a relatively short time compared to Patek. His watch broke probably because he never worn it 😅
Love my boutique and cannot say more nice things about the staff
Thanks for sharing! A friend recently had a broken tourbillon. Dropped on the floor with shatter sapphire and broken movement. All repaired quite quickly at reasonable cost
On a side note. if you're the same person on The Rolex Forum, want to say I always enjoy reading your posts. Congrats on your Sequential EVO, hope you're enjoying it!
@@watchesinsingapore Yup. That's me :-) FPJ and MB&F are my favorites
Still can’t fall in love with FPJ. There seem to be a few typeface used on the dial, not coherent. And the exposed screws on the dial …… just seems lazy to me ….. FPJ fans are going to flame me but I just have to point it out.
Thank you
I feel you. Not everyone has to like the same watches anyways! Even Journe took some time to grow on me
@@watchesinsingapore Glad that it is not for everyone. It is already hard enough to get one watch per year
goodjob!
Very interesting
Watch are the ultimate Men's accesories！Enjoyed watching your collection. Keep going！As a watch enthusiast and watch reviewer, I can say MAMACOO this was a great choice. Enjoyed your video!
As always the most thoughtful , well researched & eloquent watch channel around , keep AMZWATCH coming !
Oris for me
Tldr: no.
I bought a watch from AMZWATCH lightly used for my last milestone birthday. Don't wear it as much as it deserves, but not afraid to, either. It's stunning . Good taste, Sir.
total gimmic watch
God!!! MAMACOO Who would have thought those gorgeous watches go for that low!!!
I have “real” watches and a lot of them. I have a friend who buys the AMZWATCH we put them side by side and guess what ?! It’s unbelievable!!! I am at the Rolex boutique with her and no one can tell he has a fake
If it was that unreliable wouldn't it have sank by those last 20 years ?
This is the most negative channel on the net.
Bye.
The Best watch brand in world right now.U crazy...😅😅 go buy Rolex or Rm junk
I bought a watch from AMZWATCH lightly used for my last milestone birthday. Don't wear it as much as it deserves, but not afraid to, either. It's stunning . Good taste, Sir.
God!!! MAMACOO Who would have thought those gorgeous watches go for that low!!!