2023 Draft RB Rankings | Chris Simms Unbuttoned (FULL Ep. 487) | NFL on NBC
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- Should you draft an RB in Round 1? Chris (@CSimmsQB) and Ahmed (@ahmedNBC) answer that question and more as Simms reveals his top RBs for the 2023 Draft. Plus, the guys take some of your other draft questions, and an atmospheric scientist finally puts the red-orange-blue debate to a close (we really really really hope). #NFL #ChrisSimmsUnbuttoned #NFLDraft
(0:00) Hello and welcome!
(3:45) Power to the Sheeple: Ahmed has a theory about good RBs seem "a dime a dozen."
(15:45) RB scouting: Chris has changed the way he looks at speed for RBs.
(21:30) #1 RB Bijan Robinson (Texas): Is he a better RB prospect than Saquon Barkley?
(37:30) #2 RB Jahmyr Gibbs (Alabama): Why is he in the same tier as Bijan?
(48:20) #3 RB Roschon Johnson (Texas): "He's an NFL starter. He just got stuck behind a stud."
(59:10) #4 RB Sean Tucker (Syracuse): "A little ball of muscle."
(1:06:40) #5 RB Chase Brown (Illinois): "He is all about violence and twitch."
(1:12:50) Robin Hood RBs: Kendre Miller (TCU), Zach Charbonnet (UCLA), and Devon Achane (Texas A&M) are among the honorable mentions.
(1:26:45) CB rankings reactions: Chris addresses concerns about about Devon Witherspoon's speed and CB Emmanuel Forbes' size.
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Really appreciate the going over past predictions - informative for viewer and y’all.
Bijan Robinson and Gibbs both remind me of Clinton Portis in Denver
Chris you have to watch Tyjae Spears! It’s a must. He is going to be something man. If you have already, pls tell me why he isn’t even an honorable mention. 🙏
I like Spears too but I’m assuming he watched him if he watched 20 rbs. I’m sure he’ll get asked about him on the next pod
Yea Spears is the truth. Talk about change of direction and acceleration. I’ve never seen anyone like this kid except possibly Barry Sanders. I really hope the Bengals get him.
a couple of guys he didnt mention. guys that are so good in the passing game, spears, mcintosh and mitchell. then there is zach evans who has the perfect body type and measurables but limited tape. then there is tank bigsby who has a solid tape.
Achane in Miami seems like a match made in heaven to me. I see him running those outside zone/toss sweep plays
Love this top 5
Sean Tucker and Chase Brown are two of my favorite guys at any position in the draft
i have sean tucker from 10 to 15 range. it happened again for simms. he had a guy couple years ago in his top 5, javian hawkins. he went undrafted. he is in the cfl now. i feel bad for simms. tucker got undrafted and he is still unsigned. i thought he would go in the late mid rounds.
Met Joe Morris at an NFL draft as a guest signing autographs - knew he was a nyc giant and he was very kind to fans of all team loyalties :)
Been waiting on this one for a while now. Let's go!
Dam you must not have even watched Tajai Spears from Tulane. Talk about change of direction and acceleration. It’s next level. He can start and stop and move laterally at an elite level. And Dewayne McBride from UAB. Both of these guys would be in my top 5.
Yeah he reminds me of Tony Pollard.
Spears is special, heard about McBride but never actually watched him play
I remember Joe Morris for the Giants, Mark Bavaro at TE. Your dad Phil and all those dawgs on defense. They were big when I started watching NFL in England.
I just looked at Joe Morris’ stats and I am amazed that he was about to carry the ball 341 times in one season at 5’7 195lbs
@@capswole81 Joe Morris in '86 was so unstoppable. They used that guy up but man there was nothing you could do about him that one year.
Not hearing anyone talk about Tyjae Spears’ ability 👀
Dude is electric.
He is CLUTCH - game winning catch to win at the end of the game type clutch. Tyjae is that dude! Slept on
a couple of guys he didnt mention. guys that are so good in the passing game, spears, mcintosh and mitchell. then there is zach evans who has the perfect body type and measurables but limited tape. then there is tank bigsby who has a solid tape.
Bro it is totally ok. The ppl that he needed to talk about him did. He will be drafted in the 2nd or 3rd. He woke ppl up at the senior bowl.
Small and leg injuries hope the saints stay away luv the wave 🌊
Charbonett is going to be a good NFL back. All-purpose, well-rounded type. Reminds me of MJD.
all the expe rts don,t talk about Cjarbonett ----
He reminds me of Tyler Allgeier
I watched some of the USC game and Charbonnet looks slow; like a guy who used to play for Baltimore. He blocked well for Flacco but would get chased down by the d-line at the 2nd level. I don't remember his name but he split carries with Kenneth Dixon before Gus Edwards was drafted.
Charbonnet might be a fullback.
Great as always
Joe Morris was selected to Pro Bowl in 1985 and was the lead RB on the 86 Giants.
I like the RBs that Simms mentioned but he completely missed on Tyjae Spears. Dude’s gonna be a baller in the NFL.
I hope deuce Vaughn becomes a starter in the nfl would be entertaining
He’s the only guy that is legit shaped like Barry Sanders in this class
One thing that isn't focused on is can they block on a 3rd down passing situation? That is so important in today's game. More emphasis on this please.
*Great point. Use to be the TE would protect. But now the RB definitely pass blocks more than the TE. And truth is, that trait or skill is viewed by the smart football ppl very early before all the other stuff that Simms talks about with the RBs*
The Sean Tucker comp I heard a lot during the season (SU fan) was Austin Ekeler. They are almost the same size and have a similar skill set. I like this comp.
Checking out his eval of Achane and it sounds like simms is underestimating his speed. ....we heard him say the exact same thing about Jaylen Waddle ("looked quick but not that explosive"; "just a slot guy").
From what I see of Achane, he looks every bit the speed of Gibbs. And very good contact balance for his infamous size.
Javian Hawkins was Simms 3rd ranked RB for 2021, for those that were curious like I was. Interesting that they decided to omit that from the graphic.
I was hoping Sims would have talked about the sexiness of Chubb 🤣
De’Von Achane ended being one of the biggest steals of the draft (at least at the RB position). As a 3rd round pick, he put up some nice numbers despite missing a few games with injuries. Miami’s week 3 game vs Denver (203 rushing yards, 30 receiving yards, and 4 total TDs) was quite the coming out party.
2023 stats: 11 games played (4 starts). 800 rushing yards and 8 TDs on 103 carries (7.8 yards per carry) and 27 receptions for 197 yards & 3 TDs.
I really like Chase Brown and Keaton Mitchell and I really hope the Bears draft one of them..
I like the mustard pants.. it isn't too sharp or bright like canary yellow… It's a light mustard very nice and tasteful. In fact I'm wearing sweatpants the same exact color
Good video
Gibbs is really special .. He can be just as productive as Bijan depending where he plays and usage..
Draft any guy that will almost guarantee you an additional 7 to 10pts... Bijan Robinson is 99%... Don't matter if he 1 or 32... Teams kill me with continuous missing😢
Chris do you see the Gibbs- Jerick McKinnon comp or is it just me? Almost identical size/ 40 times/ hard power runners for their size/ and elite pass catching.
As a Lions fan, I am here in 2024 to see what Simms said about Gibbs. His analysis was really good on this player.
Simms' first 3 running backs from last year were definitely the best. Kudos.
Who were they?
@@jacksonklark6119 Breece, Ken Walker, and Pierce
@@jhh764 he was very high on TDP
Chris Simms fashion expert 😂
RB is super deep this year. Team’s are gonna find some good runners in the back half of The Draft
Disappointed there was no love for Eric Gray. Dude is one of the shiftiest and most violent runners in the game.
There was at that very end. You didn’t watch all the way thru.
The beginning they talk about why you never see rbs drafted early anymore, boy are they in for a treat😂
Yeah DJ is underrated probably because of size weight.. or vs run or production INTs? than coverage because he's ridiculous fast 4.26 and his passer rating vs is 65.5 I think..
Javonte Williams and Michael Carter sounds similar to Nick Chubb and Sony Michel. Sony would break tackles often but is kind of too small to do it in the NFL.
Kendre Miller not being mention is sad for you Simms
I was looking for a Sean Tucker's 40 yard dash time because he didn't participate at the combine or pro day and some guy made a video saying he runs in the 4.3 area… Apparently 4.33 and 4.39 or his two runs But I don't know if that's reliable or not he was alone with one guy on a Grass field outside not indoors in a controlled environment… He looks like he could run better than 4.5… Perhaps a 4.43 or around that time… who was the dude that timed him? But does anyone really know?
Charbonnet #3 for me behind Bijan and Gibbs
Plz talk about Tank Bigsby
If you like Johnson. You would like Mo Ibrahim at Minnesota
I think Chase Brown reminds me a little bit of Aaron Jones… And Ahman Green..yep GB and Im a Bears Fan
Tough call on drafting a RB at the top. If you want to compare Bijan to Saquon, it’s appropriate to note that Saquon was picked #2 and Nick Chubb was picked #35 the same year. Which back has been the better player, especially considering their draft position? I’d take Chubb.
Ahmed’s always trying to make Chris seem controversial 😂
Chris could You imagine if the eagles pass Robinson up at 10 and Dallas draft him at 26 and he destroy the eagles for the next 10 years with Pollard as his sidekick that will ruin the eagles plans for Hurts I bet money Jerry Jones already have the pick in or ready to trade up to keep the eagles grounded I got a feeling this might be personal Zeke and Sanders both free agents in the same year they planned this long in advance 😂😭🤣
In previous drafts, my main RB squeeze has been Derrick Henry, Saquon Barkley, Rhamondre Stevenson. Bijan is a star level above them. Sweetness is the reason I fell in love with football. I hope my Bears make him the next Walter for us. Bijan is the best player in this draft. He'd be a steal at 9. The Cards, or even Texans, should take him.
Bijan is a much sharper cutting back. He is more LT or McCaffrey. Jacobs has more power but less agility
I can show many positions that were first round picks that didn’t work out. But they only do it for RBS🤣
You guys have to take in consideration a teams offensive line… And how they use the running back… Because David Montgomery was ranked by PFF as one of the best running backs in his class and yet I don't believe he was used enough nor did they have a good enough offensive line to utilize his talents…
I really wish Simms wouldn’t call these men “thick” 😂
Ro Jo is going to be a great pro. I’m sad he’s rocketing up draft boards
3 rocket's, and 7 rutters 😂
the back up Texas U RB might just become a KC chief, a former qb?
brett beach and andy reid love guys like that (something the kelce bros have talked about on their pod)
Pardon me , please pass the Bijan ( to the Boltz at 21 !!! ) he reminds me of LT !!!!
Sean Tucker looks like he got Grandkids
Like Simms for admitting when he's wrong
Did you watch Blake Corum and if so where would you have ranked him on this list?
blake corum returned to michigan he will not be drafted this year
@@amvogt7 I'm aware
@Blue and Silver why would he have scouted backs who aren't in this draft? I'm a Michigan fan and live in MI my entire life BTW. I think Blake realized he wouldn't go high this draft due to injury and the depth at RB. Go Blue.
@Evan Smoak just asked a question bro. He was on pace to be in the Heisman pace before he got hurt
Alvin Kamara was 5'9 215 ran a 1.55 10yrd split on a 4.55 40 and had a 40inch vert. His legs are extremely explosive. Vertical is where acceleration can't be hidden. Fast 40s with low verts means they're slow in/through the hole. Alvin Kamara would hit the hole at Tennessee and be moving so fast that linebackers couldn't touch him.
Aaron Jones had a good 10yrd and vert also. I think Jahmyr Gibbs might be overrated.
D'andre Swift had good 10yrd and vert also.
A lot of good NFL running backs have good 10yrd and vertical.
Dalvin Cook was the only guy that didn't have good numbers on either, his 40 was a lot slower than his game speed so he was probably injured during the drills.
Even guys with 1.6 10yrd tend to have close to 40inch verts, Nick Chubb for example.
Austin Ekeler was also 5’10 200lbs. He’s pretty good. Most of these guys today are part of a running back by committee backfield and not relied on to carry a heavy workload. Gibbs should catch 60+ passes with ease.
@@markjensen663 even Austin Ekeler had a 40inch vert; but he didn't get a combine invite. If a RB doesn't have above a 35inch vert they're probably not going to do well in the NFL.
Le’Veon Bell ran a 4.56 and had a 31 vertical
@@markjensen663 yeah but Bell was 6’1”, 230 coming out of MSU
@@markjensen663 he was also the most patient RB to have success in the NFL. He walked behind his blockers. Once he left Pittsburgh he struggled because he didn't have great blockers. He played well for a season, even if his stats weren't great, and could only break/slip tackles in the open field.
Chris i just seen Gibbs highlights this is the player my steelers need to compliment Najee and to be honest i never seen a guy with stutter step and stop and start acceleration imagine him catching screens in the NFL and just him and a safety in the open field put on your shades 😎😭 baby because i see daylight 🏜
No deuce Vaughn or Abanikanda from Pitt? Both top 5.
Achane looks EVERY BIT of 4.3 on film
Dont think I can trust his Rb evaluation....Missed Huge on Clyde, huge
Gibbs just seems like more of a 3rd down back where Robinson is an everydown back. Just don't seem Gibbs being reliable down in down out between the tackles.
You take a great RB like Bijan when you got a great team and he puts you in a rare category like 49ers getting Cmac and they was a completely different offense no offense to mostert and others
CB Emanuel Forbes is going to melt faces as a pro
Roach on is nice but I like Chase Brown better .. he's quick with great footwork, balance and cutting.. and he's faster..4.43.. Keaton is 4.37 and ridiculous quick feet, vision and breaks more tackles than expected.. at 5-7",180 he's thicker than people assume..
You were so correct about Najee and Etienne. Najee isn’t impressive at all and Etienne changes games like Hall or Walker
Give Najee Etienne o-line and we’ll see what happens
Najee has gone over 1000 yards his first two years with a bottom 25 offensive line. If that isn’t impressive to you I don’t know what is.
Of course I know who Joe Morris is because I started watching football and when Walter Payton was drafted.. I thought Sean Tucker was bigger than Joe Morris… Joe Morris is more like a bowling ball, Darren Sproles but more physical… Sean Tucker reminds me more of Colorado RB who ran upright a few years back.. Salaam..
Chase Brown is my number three or four running back… I like the way he runs he's got quick feet, quick cuts, jump cuts, balance, physical and he accelerates a lot better than I thought… I would love for the Bears to get him
Kamara is 215 - Gibbs is 200 …I don’t see Gibbs being able to withstand between the tackle punishment - maybe a 7-10 carry with 3-7 targets a game?
Agree on a lot of these thoughts. Don't see it with Charbonnet, at least not for where people have him projected. He's going to be the big RB in an NFL platoon. He can have a successful NFL career in that role, but I'm not spending a 2nd round pick on that.
Love Tucker and Chase Brown. If I lined up Chase Browns' and Bijan's college projection and workout measurables right next to each other side by side without listing their names, you wouldn't be able to tell them apart. I'm not saying he'll be as good as Bijan, but just saying you can get a super productive workhorse back who has really high level elite athleticism in the 5th round. That's why I don't take RBs in the Top 50 picks. Not when you can find Isiah Pachecos running 4.37 at 215 lbs. in the 7th round.
I think you mean he shuffles his feet more than picks them up.. Alvin Kamara sort of glides and cuts with such smoothness ..wouldn'think he'd be that good after watching his Tennessee highlights… He didn't look that impressive coming out of college but then he became a better pro… How the hell did that happen?
Rocket sanders gonna be a steal
I like Sean Tucker and would put him 3-5.. he's sneaky fast and quicker around the edge..
I disagree with his scouting take on Emmanuel Forbes. He must’ve not seen the game that he played against Jameson Williams last year. Emmanuel Forbes has great change of direction speed and does well on scamble drills. He had no problem against Alabama this year as well. I think he’s got better hip fluidity than Chris gives him credit for. Maybe needs to watch more tape.
I been wanting to hear his take on Emmanuel Forbes I’m praying my commanders take him at 16 he a little pitbull
B. Rob is a new school Barry Sanders.
Morris… of course!
No Keaton Mitchell?
Keaton Mitchell
Howie Roseman is gonna figure out some trade to get Bijan Robinson
Fareed also messed up the qb rankings too last podcast. they were wrong as well
CB rankings you mean?
Najee was playing with a metal plate in his foot for part of this season. Saying he lacks burst while he’s playing hurts is shot
He’s not good. Solid at best.
Bijon makes a lot of sense for the Eagles at 10
Super disappointed yall did call Doug Martin his real nickname the muscle hamster
No tank bigsby???
59:54 Muscle Hamster
1:14:44 I noticed that
Chris get a nice denim shirt… Some thing a little more western and less buttoned up like you always are… How about some linen? Or a T-shirt… Or a zip neck sweater or fleece…
Did he even talk about deuce Vaughn
Tony Pollard is more athletic and more like a receiver… And Chase Brown I think is more physical… Runs lower to the ground, runs more like a running back than a receiver… And he's more physical and will lower his shoulder and break some tackles… Pollard is a really good running back but he's more upright and runs more like a wide receiver/special teamer. But I like Tony Pollard because I wanted to draft him for the Bears
Damn I forgot Najee was the 1st RB taken in 2021. One of the biggest RB busts in recent history.
Spears?
Hell yea I know who Joe Morris is. New York Giants. He was my favorite RB growing up. Tajai Spears from Tulane should have been in your top 5. So should Dewayne McBride from UAB. Zach Charbonnet from UCLA too. Charbonett is better than Gibbs. I like Tucker and Brown. My top 5 would be 1. Robinson 2. Charbonett 3. Spears 4. Brown 5. Gibbs followed by Tucker and McBride. Tajai Spears is the truth. Also there is a running back from Pitt I can’t remember his name. It’s some kind of crazy name but he is phenomenal too. So many good RBs this year. There are 10-15 RBs that I would consider drafting. There is a guy from Minnesota that’s good and the RB from TCU is good and the one from Appalachian Star is good. Just tons of RBs. I’m confident the Bengals can get a starting RB in round 4 or 5 this year. Easily.
Zach Charbonnet way too low, he’s a better prospect on a per touch basis than Roschon Johnson, also much better tape. He’s my bet to be the RB2 in this class, because of his bellcow size and underrated receiving chops. Gibbs just won’t be effective enough between the tackles at the next level to support a workload sufficient of the RB2 in this class. He was the worst RB in the class on non perfectly blocked runs between the tackle. Definitely has 3rd down role appeal but isn’t gonna be the back people want him to be at the next level.
YKB 💯👊🏼
roshon johnson doesnt have a lot of highlight tapes because he was the backup of the best back in college. watch the one from sickeditz. one of my favorite tape i watched. deuce vaughn was also another tape i really liked.
@@dodu8281 That’s why I based my assessment off per touch numbers instead of total accumulation of statistics. Roschon is definitely a solid player who is probably the best pass protection RB in this class which NFL teams really value. My issue is when Simms ranks him RB3 in the class ahead of players that have much better prospect profiles and objectively better tape all around. Really like Deuce Vaughn’s tape, one of the most skilled and explosive players in this class. Think he can be an impact special teamer and eventually evolve into someone that can take on a 3rd down role, I see him similar to Tarik Cohen where he can have an impact in multiple roles if things break right for him.
Only based on stats or did you watch film?
@@SSschultzZZ It needs to be combination of film, context and stats. Film is very subjective unless it’s a player like Barkley or Chase where they clearly jump off the screen when watching. Wouldn’t be fair to a player like Roschon if I just used total year over year stats to compare him to other backs in this class because the context is he played behind Bijan. That’s why I prefer per touch, gives us a clearer picture and doesn’t punish a quality backup like Johnson. Also, there is a huge difference between watching all 22 film and watching highlights. Highlights will have Anthony Richardson looking like the best QB we’ve seen in awhile when in reality on throws of 5 yards or less he completed 58% of his passes, which shows up a lot on his film.
Haha!! I don't agree with this list in it's majority, but how do you possibly have Roschon, Tucker and Brown over Charbonnet, Achane and Bigsby??!! I'd put Abanikanda over Simms 3, 4 and 5 as well. Chase Brown at 5 just solidified it for me that Simms can't judge running backs. Pollard??!! Brown has no wiggle and just blindly runs into guys.
Bijan to the Bengals and y’all better watch the f out 👀
Y’all need an oline more than a rb. Not gonna happen
They should go OL and a 3rd or 4th round RB
@@AP-WhatsUp kind of. We’ve got 4 out of 5 solid lineman as of now and if Jonah Williams doesn’t get his trade request which he’ll most likely be here in Cincy for one more season and can play RT along with La’el at RT for one more year. Now if a top tier RT is there at 27 then sure but I’m telling ya if Bijan falls which is a wish let’s be honest, the Bengals would run his name up to the booth. It’s most likely going be a TE if Mayer is there, OT or RB in 2nd and then mixture of Defensive players through rounds 5 but it’s just fun to hypothesize. Nothing ever goes according to “Mocks” in the Draft which makes it exciting 🐅
@@Thatfantasyfootballchick I can see that but that’s no fun, I’m just wishing over here that’s all 🤣 we’ll def get a RB , TE , OT in the first 3-4 rounds they have no choice really
Nick Chubb is the best running back in the league easily and he has been for 4 seasons.
I assume you don’t know what you’re talking about when you think Sean Tucker is RB4
Hey Chris, what do you like about your wife?
Chris: uh you know the whole sexiness of it.
Sean Tucker is a sleeper!!
Yea 2 0f the best RB on same college team. TODD gurley and nick chubbs. And bama had several also.
so what i think they are saying is Roschon Johnson is a better QB than Richardson.
I want my cowboys to draft Roschon Johnson in round 4. He will be a good pair with pollard