3-4-5 Triangle Method For Finding Square
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- Today you will learn the 3-4-5 triangle method for an effective way to find square. The 3-4-5 triangle method works great for small projects, and it works great for large projects such as flooring, home construction, and landscaping/gardening.
Finding square with diagonals video: • Every New Woodworker N...
0:00 Intro
0:30 What is the 3-4-5 method?
1:57 Method #1 - Finding square
4:03 Method #2 - Laying out 90 degree lines
5:28 Outro
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Notes: Sometimes the string can introduce some errors because of its flexibility. Therefore, it's always a good idea to recheck the 3-4-5 after your lines are snapped. In addition to multiplying the ratio, you can also divide the numbers to get even smaller numbers.
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Use this all the time in laying out slabs and footings, wall placement, ensuring square openings. Countless uses for this method. Thank you Pythagorus
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Thanks a lot! Didn't realize so easy a method.
I know right, and you can use it in so many different places.
Hi, thank you for the video very informative and right to the point. Question: I’m new to woodworking and I was wondering what is the best way to make plywood residuals square, always worry about the factory edge and when I loose track of it I don’t know what to do. Thanks you!
Awesome. Thanks. Just made a bench top and need to put straight and square dog holes.
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As a flooring contractor, this is a method I live by every time I do lay out
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Mathematician here. Nice mathematical video :-) It's actually not the Pythagorean Theorem that is used in the 3-4-5 method. (I don't think the video claims this, but some comments do.) Instead, it is the converse of the Pythagorean Theorem, which says: IF the sides (a, b, c) of a triangle satisfy the equation a^2+b^2=c^2, THEN the angle opposite side c is a right angle.
In the 3-4-5 method, this is used for a=3, b=4, c=5.
For the same reason, there is also a 5-12-13 method. (And infinitely many other similar methods that are not just scaled versions of these to methods.)
Another funny thing I have noticed: Almost all woodworkers on UA-cam say "square" when they mean right angle (when two lines are perpendicular/orthogonal) :-)
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Guys just start out with a any number that is a multiple of 3. Then however many times 3 goes into that number, multiply 4 and 5 by that same number. At the end, the measurement between the 3 side and the 4 side should equal 5 times whatever the number was you used to multiply with. If you start with 3x4=12. Then multiply the 4 and 5 by 4 also. 16 and then you would get 20 between the first two.
It's really really simple if you know the multiplication table.
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Very nice. I have a question what if I’m working on a frame 48x24 inches, using 3-4-5 what distance do I use? 3 4 and 5 inches are too small, and 3 4 and 5 feet is too large, so guide me please.
Fantastic question Gary! Just as you can multiply to make the ratio bigger, you can divide to make it smaller. So for your project one option would be to divide the 3'-4'-5' by 2 to get 1.5'-2'-2.5'. Cool right?!
Metric!
If you prefer integers that are as large as possible (and still inches), then you can multiply by an integer n so that 3*n is at most 24, and 4*n is at most 48, i.e., you multiply by n=8:
3 becomes 3*8=24,
4 becomes 4*8=32,
5 becomes 5*8=40.
Therefore, you now have a 24-32-40 method.
It’s a ratio. It doesn’t matter what the measurements are as long as they are 3-4-5. You could use 24 on the short side, 32 on the second side and 40 on the hypotenuse. 24-32-40 is the same as 3-4-5. Better still, forget it altogether and just measure the diagonals.
This is like a math class.
Bad ass
Flexible use of the Pythagorean Theorem
I’ve figured, thank you
What’s the chalk line cord all about? What’s its purpose and why did you “snap it” ... thanks Josh ✌🏼
Hey man! Chalk lines are used mostly in carpentry/construction and work great for laying out lines for house walls, flooring, roofing, and cutting plywood just to name a few. Great tool.
@@TrainingHandsAcademy ahhh I see! I saw one of my buddies use this the other day on a long slab but I was lost. Good to know! Thanks buddy
We use a chalk like to transfer a line to a concrete slab, sub floor or any other type of substrate in order to follow. We use this line to keep all the material straight and square, it is very important to follow. If you don’t follow your line correctly, you can have a huge mess on your hands and its a nightmare to fix if you don’t "catch it" right away.
very cool. it got me thinkning.. situations that are square but not 3-4-5 or a simple multiple like 6-8-10, Is it true that every square 3 sided measurement is a derivative or multiple of 3-4-5? Kind of like if a truw box is really square, divided by itself is 1. So every truly square triangle measurement would have to be equally proportionate to 3-4-5...? never thought this deep before lol
I would say yes, that is true.
Can you just divide the 5 by 2 to get a 45 degree projection?
curious what if you were trying to build a 20 x30 building and your trying to make sure your floor joist are square?
Yes this work for that... just upscale the numbers like in the video's examples.
So is run always 3 ft and rise at 4ft??? Or can we do vise vers??? Run being 4 and rise 3 ft?????
Yes, you can switch it up.
I need diagonal for 21/40 dimension metal building
I want to learn how lay a floor plan using a string of a building plan
Cool math tricks - interestingly, while the 3-4-5 Triangle method clearly speaks to Pythagorean mathematics, the diagonal method also lends a concept from another famous mathematician - Ptolemy
(as in, Ptolemy's theorem: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ptolemy's_theorem)
How about big building lay out for square one.
Yes, this works for that too.
@@TrainingHandsAcademy Thank you ang can you make demo for that too?
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does it work in metric???
Yes, any unit of measurement
Don't worry about unit of measure. It can be something you invent. What matters is the 3,4,5 all being multiplied by the same number each time. It's much easier to understand with the short simple explanation. The longer it takes to explain this the more confusing it will get.
@@TrainingHandsAcademy thank you for the great answer, makes sense
I see the concept here, but couldn't you just use the speed square to check the angle?
You can but the speed square is too small to get accurate readings on larger projects.
.25 speed is best for this
Yes, but will it work for a "LEFT" triangle! 👀😆😜😁🤣👍
😂
Unfortunately not.
Or I could say yes- it will work for communists!
@@Nitecrow314 You juz had to go there! 🤣
Pythagorean theory
Am not getting 5'
Then you are out of square
You don't have to go 3',4',5'. Use multiples of 3 if that works better.
Say you use 12. 3x4=12. Now multiply 4 x 4 up the other side. That's 16". Now if you measure between them you should get 20 because 5x4=20. I just used 12, which is 3x4. Then I multiplied the next two numbers also by 4. You can do it however works best for the project. Just start with any number that is a multiple of 3.
Let's see if someone could actually do it.Not a carpenter .
Do what?
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Thanks for commenting!
I did a diagonal using a single taunt string off each corner of the 36' apart stakes...stake one at (0) stake 2 at (36) 36Ft x 40Ft=54'2.75" Diag. corner to corner if memory serves me ... maybe not but ultimately when my numbers met diagonally my sides were 36 left side @ (40ft) and 38ft 6" right side @(40 ft) three times kept coming out using a 54ft 2" (same string tied off)...which corner is out is the need to know using a single string 54ft 2.75" off stake 1 @ 0 and stake 2 @36Ft? How is the parallels off ???
Got it coach!! 🫡
Very helpful thank you