The Ground Force / IMPACT Connection with Milo Lines, PGA and Dr. Scott Lynn
Вставка
- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- The best BBG premium series we have made
Go to www.bebettergol...
SUBSCRIBE! Click here for a FREE subscription to BE BETTER GOLF bit.ly/1h7llEk
We release new videos 3x a week (usually twice on weekends)
Thanks to Dr. Scott Lynn from swingcatalyst.com contact their sales department via their website for information on a BE BETTER GOLF discount.
Follow me on Instagram / bb_golfshow
Follow me on twitter hp:// bb_golfshow
Links to stuff I use in videos Rode Videomic with Fuzzy amzn.to/2jhCkJe
Rode Videomic Me (the iphone attached one) amzn.to/2jhvALx
Canon T5i amzn.to/2in1Cpt
Iphone 6s amzn.to/2jhBXhT
Joby Tripod for iphone amzn.to/2jrogwa
In the bag Srixon z765 irons amzn.to/2ivdCnp
Srixon z965 irons amzn.to/2jHvx88
Evnroll putter
►Links:
►Instagram:- / bb_golfshow
►Twitter:- / bb_golfshow
►Website www.bebettergol...
Thanks for watching!
This is great stuff Brendon. I am impressed with your desire and effort in learning more and improving. It is very interesting how your "search" has progressed over the years by picking the brains of so many fine teachers. I always wonder what you can possibly come up with next but you have never failed to find something new or different to present. Plus you have helped me and so many others. Thanks again.
You guys are on a winner, Brendan, its great how you are thinking outside the square to understand the ground forces through swing catalyst . . I take my hat off to you Sir.
Really interesting study of how to accelerate the club head by having a passive arm action during the downswing, and putting on the brakes with the hips; this is the direct opposite of what Steve Pratt preaches on his channel. He also hits the ball a long way doing the exact opposite, and recommends throwing from the top as soon as possible.
What would be very interesting is to visit Steve with Dr Scott and see what forces he produces, and how his method compares. Would this be possible?
What a great lesson guys!
Okay this might be anecdotal, but using Milo's swing technique/thought of "soft arms along for the ride, let the physics square the club", I had some of the purest drives I've ever had in a single round. I just played Black Gold and hit driver, pitching wedge on the par 5 4th hole (admittedly little bit of a tailwind, but then on the 5th hole into the wind, I still hit a pure, low spin drive 285 . Kind of excited to expand on this some more....
Thats awesome!
Welp, golf is a cruel mistress. Played Strawberry Farms and only hit 7 fairways. I guess I can’t expect to be anywhere near Milo’s level just yet 😛. The good news is I still did hit a couple drives that were far and away better than my old drives; and way less wear and tear on my golfers elbow.
@@airbaker2 Oh man, seriously, thanks for the update. Hope the elbow keeps improving. I've had up and down results with this kind of work as well.
Chris if you are in Socal, it would be really cool to hear your results of a lesson with Dr. Lynn. His setup is amazing, video, GC Quad and Force plates all synced up.
Ok, I love this video! Brandon you really need to watch this video again. At 10:48 Milo gives you the secret that your swing is missing (Left side bend in the backswing that increases in the downswing). At 10:10 you demonstrate this very well while only swing your left arm but every time the club goes back in play your tendency is to have flatter shoulders in the backswing and the left shoulder pulls up immediately from the top. Most of your body motion looks much better but I'd love to see you exam this part of your swing and then get your thoughts and feed back. This is a bad habit of mine as well so I see this on video a lot.
Shoulders steeper on backswing and butt deeper?
@@BEBETTERGOLF I think at 11.58, that is what you missing. The moment of transition and activate the ground force.
@@BEBETTERGOLF exactly
Let the rear shoulder lead the entire swing, it’ll feel like the shoulder gets to the end follow through position first. Great swing thought for not using those hands. Keep up the hard work!
As a recent follower of Mike Malaska and his methods, if I recall correctly he preaches not to “tow” the club through impact, but to rotate your hands immediately after impact. I know you’ve taken lessons from him and learned from him so I wonder if this videos main points are contradictory to the Malaska methods?
IMO: video portrays a golfers athletic ability can definitely determine how successful a golfer might be implementing the proper golf driver mechanics to their skill set.
You can do an entire session from 15:55 and on, getting into “putting the brakes on”!
I think your missing the point milo is connected in his tow his sequences match.. he's definitely taking advantage of arm speed but with less effort because he knows how to use his lower body.
“Putting the brakes on” before the ball is a concept I’ve never tried. Love to see you practicing more of this and see if it brings big gains for you! I’m interested to try this to help continue to cure my early extension.
What a swing milo has.
chubby chequer it’s crazy
Interesting.... this is exactly what I’m trying to achieve. My main issue is to get the upper body moving with the club trailing. My body Goes too slow.
Some interesting concepts. Can't say it worked best for me probably due to age and lack of flexibility. Hard for my body to stay in position before impact when the left hip aggressively rotates. It causes me to come out of my swing too early, due to lack of lateral side bend. I can't seem to control the ball consistently. However, it is great to watch how it works amazingly well for Milo Lines and Brendan who has become a master of many swing styles.
Milo....I seem to see you, in the early part of the downswing, PRESSING your upper body (sternum) into the trail leg, closing the gap between the sternum and the trail hip....looks like a very powerful move. (frame at 1:45)
Yes?
It seems at that point, the "bad swing" is dumping arm and wrist angles, where as in the "good swing" that torso crunch that narrows the gap between sternum and trail leg occurs, ie body actions rather than arm and wrist actions.
Not sure why you take out your rotation of the hip with the flip swing. Shouldn't it be tow with hip rotation and flip with hip rotation? Kind of obstructing data by not including all of the variables right? And doesn't club head speed only matter if you're releasing at (3*PI)/2 on the harmonic oscillation sine wave function?
Interested to hear Tony Luczak's take, isn't this the complete opposite of what you guys were working on ? This seems like the better way to be square at impact once you learn how to deliver the club properly, hi-speed or not.
Love to hear Milo and the Dr thoughts on Matt Wolfe
What do u want to hear? Other than he does it really well...
You asked Milo and important question but not sure it was answered. You mentioned towards the end of video how you tow your 7 iron well while going 60% but once you try to go more than that you lose your tow and start to flip. What did he and Dr Scott say on how to keep the tow while increasing your output above 60%? Thanks
It’s a function of the brakes in your swing. Slower speed needs less push and brakes to retain / deliver the lag. If you create a lot of energy in the downswing without an equal force to stop it/ redirect it. Then that big force will be thrown into a straight line immediately.
I’ll ask MILO to chime in
@@BEBETTERGOLF I agree with your assessment. The key is good trail arm and wrist structure through transition and force generated from the core and legs. The lead side breaks are critical to keep the pivot moving beyond impact.
@@MiloLinesGolf Thank you both for your comments. I really appreciate your videos and explanations. It has helped me with the proper swing thoughts.
@@MiloLinesGolf @BE BETTER GOLF Will you be presenting a video on good trail arm and wrist structure? Best wrist structure is loose with little to hardly any tension? Meaning not too tight of grip pressure which will tighten up the wrist joint?
Gaining 20mph by moving slower, is that right? I continually search for anything you do with Milo; I’ve watched your collaborations with many good instructors BUT Milo says it in a way I can totally understand.
This is the most important thing in getting a golf swing fast.
Great tips. Thanks guys
What do you thing the odds are that Brendon is going to be using or trying to incorporate this approach in 30 days? He’ll be swinging his normal swing.
You cant fix just one thing. If you are applying force to the club in transition by pulling on the handle and getting narrow then rotating more (even if you are towing the club) probably won't help you. Of course, I'm not saying Milo is wrong, it's just that "holding on" and turning isn't going to help players that pull on the handle in transition. For me, that task of "holding on" only enforces the bad habit of tugging on the handle. You will hit some really cool looking shots at 40% effort and then the ball will go sideways at speed.
So Brendon seems more comfortable doing early extension and a version of flip. Heavy rotation and torque doesn’t seem his forte. Why train someone to do something he is not designed to do . What would Mike Adams suggest? Bet Dr Lynn would know! Brendon’s pelvis always seems up and going up into extension. Vertical force?
Brendon stops rotating the shoulders which causes the arms to straighten on impact. Milo doesnt, he gets the left shoulder more up and around and of course the right one more down and to the ball. He just rotates the shoulders through. Thats what causes the right arm to stay bend on impact and straighten past impact. The Left shoulder needs to get way more up (and naturaly more turned) on Brandans swing. Left up right down. Thats what causes the open look of the shoulders too. The task shouldnt be to hit the ball. The task should be bring the right shoulder down. Effects: bend right arm, lag tension, pure golf strikes.
Wow you guys got to get better at preparing with training aides and explaining what your doing and why your doing it
Milo's 2 demo swings toward the beginning of the video tell the tale. Good ground forces can add 20 mph ball speed.
Instead of trying to hold back the wrist action, time it to full extension rather than contact. If you do that you can use your body more freely.
This!! Yes. Agreed
Lol hit same club head speed with just arms. The leg swing looked much effortless
It was
But there is still the ball contact issue...
Hate to say this, but my swing speed is ~85MPH with the driver. So a 225 yard drive is a good drive for me. At 113MPH Brendon's drive distance is one I'd dearly love to have.
Thx Michael. U can get to 100 I think
@@BEBETTERGOLF If I got to 100 I'd be the happiest golfer alive. I'm 66, and the guys I golf with are that within 10 years. Even the guys who used to hit it long, just don't anymore. Believe me, we're talking life long golfers, though I do think with my body type--I'm slim and tall, I could hit it farther. Honestly, I think there's something to quick muscles too. If I ever see you at any LB course hope you don't mind if I come by to introduce myself.
Milo’s swing is impressive on many levels except his smash factor. Why is it below 1.4? Shouldn’t the ball speed be higher with his club head speed?
Crappy soft range balls. These max out at 1.41 for me at speed. With real balls my ball speed is typically over 180 with smash around 1.48-1.5
The rumor is that Brendon tried to combine Bryson deChambeau’s (and Kyle Berkshire’s) “pull like hell” approach with Milo’s “let the lower body tow the arms approach” and his chest muscles got knotted to his hamstrings and his glutes fired so hard that he can’t have more kids.
am I the only one confused by the apparent contradiction with Malaska's idea that your body is reacting to your intentions, a la hitting while sitting
There is a difference between what happens and “what to do” sometimes for certain players they don’t match at all
@@BEBETTERGOLF and that also, correct me if I'm wrong, but Mike says that speed comes from your hands and arms, that you can actually hit a ball pretty far sitting down. He seems pretty critical of the whole "firing your hips" idea
@@arijoseph2282 Because he can't do that
If you watch milos front door brendon and you add that in to your swing I bet your speed goes up even more it’s like Bryson his front foot is facing the target and yours is still side ways so it’s harder to get your body out of the way
Matt Dipadua yeah we discussed that. There is a way to DO it and a way to fake it with that front foot. Exploring it now
Awsome that’s the one thing it looks like holding you back but swing looks great keep working I was wondering want program you followed with the pro stick I just purchased one hoping to get my club speed up I noticed super speed they have heavy medium Light with the pro stick only having heavy and light end is there a program to follow
He was off camera when he was demoing what to do...
Foot*
Maybe arms are a significant speed producer
.?
@@arjanpetersen yeah, sorry - I was making that comment in regard to the 113 MPH club head speed Brendon was able to achieve just by trying to hit that drive with only his arms.
We are missing something here....... Hmmmmmmm
Would like to see if Dr. Scott's mat shows the weight pressure transfer profiles of Milo and Brendon. Looks like Milo moves his right hip back, leaves it back, then really places movement onto his left heel...that's his "applying the brakes" as his left hip turns hard away from the target. I wonder if Brendon just has more pressure on his left toe in the downswing instead of heel. If we early extend the right hip (hump the goat), the only thing left to do as a reaction is flip to save it. I'm almost convinced that all flipping is a result of early right hip extension (humping the goat).
@@tiptopsaidhe The Driving Force speaks to your question in great detail. Great video series.
@@9to5golfhughmanning88 I didn't know I was "in" on the promotion assist for the Driving Force product ;-). The teeter board Marcus Bell utilizes costs a dollar to build, effectively does the same thing. Zach Allen has been way ahead in this. He seems like a great teacher, too. Kelvin Miyahira used the Speedchains 15 years ago as a fast twitch trainer to utilize weight in the golf swinging motion, similar to what Dr. Scott was doing with the rubber bands to teach Brendon to apply the brakes. The key seems to get to the left heel down right heel down position (the sit down move as the old timers called it) before the right hip extension falls in behind the "hit." I can say it. I just can't always do it.
@@tiptopsaidhe Sorry, the short and/or cryptic response wasn't meant to annoy or promote any sales. It's just that there is a lot of nuance to the answer of this broad question and I didn't want to get anything wrong in my response. Here it goes: Milo's pattern is 68% force into his trail leg then, in transition, he "unweights" himself by half his mass. Brendon, gets about 80% into his trail leg. Milo is hyper consistent in the way he loads in the trail leg and Dr. Lynn says that consistent loading into the trail leg is a common trait between the great players he has measured. From player to player, great players don't load the same way, but they load consistently from swing to swing.