NEW BIANCHI OLTRE RC HANDLEBAR CONTROVERSY! *UNLUCKY OR FAIL DESIGN?*
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This is a design feature.
You start the race with exactly 6.8 kilos, and as the race continues, your weight decreases.
Congratulations Bianchi, another great idea.
"Drop Handlebars"
Peak Torque and Hambini will have a field day seeing this masterpiece of engineering
My popcorn is already in the microwave 😂
I would be impressed if they predicted it, but even I could sound intelligent describing why it failed after the fact. I am still waiting for one single hambini/pt prediction to come true, the the new trek madones failing at the rear for example. Nobody remembers all their fails ;(
My view on integrated handlebars and non-round seat tubes is if it doesn’t twist, it breaks.
That's probably about 99.9% true. I've never seen a round seat post or cylindrical handlebar break. I have one bike with a proprietary, non-round, carbon seat post. I bought the bike used for a really good price knowing that post was stuck hard, but it's at the right height for me. I'm someday going to find a way to free it.
In mtb we are always told to leave brake levers a little loose so they will rotate in a crash.
Somebody scatter around some nuts and get Hambini here!
Love your videos GC, good to see Chris Miller find your videos and give you a shout out
Thank you!! Yea it was very cool
This super lightweight crap might eventually get someone killed.
Sadly true. 😢
Bruh, you a UA-camr. Consistent uploads, GC gear, Reviews, Opinions, Contests, Giveaways, saying "Please subscribe" haha you're the very definition of a UA-camr!
Hahhahaha well that makes me feel better about it
@@GCPerformance18 F88king hell, you started your channel around the same time as mine (other account), but you have 718 vids vs my 36 lol.
@@GCPerformance18 Love watching this channel grow~ Keep up the great work!
I tell you what's going to happen: The dentists in my group rides will look at Sir Velos instead when they want to differentiate themselves from the other dentists on SL7s.
Hambini is gonna have a blast with this one.
I want to see what he has to say
"laughs in aluminum flat bars"
I saw the Chris Miller shoutout too!
Not surprised at all.
Integrated hanblebars are not a one piece mould and need to be joined and sharp curved sections are harder to layup. 2 bikes 2 failures is really bad. Yeah they were dropped but what are the odds of two bikes two breaks in the same race? Yeah low. These bike manufacturers can't even make basic bike shapes correctly let alone these fancy shapes. And have you seen the price of this bike? Video coming on this one.
Carbon bars break in crashes. I’m leaning more towards bad luck. Love the Nero show. The Aussie boys keep it real.
When they say bikes come with two brakes to stop, they did NOT mean TWO BREAKS!
I learned a lesson two days ago. I pulled a carbon stem off of a bike and spotted that the stem has a crack in it. It runs from the steerer tube towards the front for about an 1/8th of inch or so. I'm surprised by the location but glad it didn't come apart on me. So, my lesson is to check parts more often.
That was God watching over you. But poor that it happened.
Something to note: carbon bike frames and components are made specific for the pro teams. The consumer counterparts don't come from the same factory line.
3:36 imagine sprinting and it breaks
exact thoughts, you can say goodbye to the ulnar, radial, and anterior and posterior interosseous arteries, it'll slice right through it
imagine going downhill and it breaks
Chris Miller also goes in his channel about other people’s backgrounds 😂
Hahaha I know!!!
They’ll blame it on over tightening the lever bolts by the mechanic
agreed, Chris and Jesse are great
It seems all these new “invented” handlebars are fragile as 💩 . Aluminium in a race seems way better option as riders tend to crash from time to time.
Carbon fibre is a much stronger material than aluminium as long as you are a competent engineer. It seems the cycling industry doesn’t have many of those
hurr durr carbon bad
@@lukacherriman5266 Incorrect, at least at the oversimplification you are presenting. Carbon is stronger per gram in certain properties, particularly tensile strength. But crushing and impact resistance are not on that list.
Just confirms my disappointment in the bike industry. New bikes are made to be disposable
I've crashed my bike like 4 times (in crit races 🤣) and my Enve bars are still doin great lol
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just double, triple check for cracks lol
Hahahah hell yea!!
Xxerxes 😂 That’s an epic nickname from your friends. It had me in stitches
Sure, get one. Crash it on each side and see if the bars snap off like in the race. What I wonder about is if anyone of these (ala Canyon) have snapped while JRA and if Bianchi had theirs made by the same supplier? Have any of the Cervelo one-piece things broken JRA or in crashes?
I have been in plenty of high speed crashes with carbon bar and stem. No damages due to the bar tape I guess and the way the bike hit the pavement. This is a design flaw. If that bike was suppose to fall down I think the handlebars will break. This is just a cash grab from Bianchi trying to keep up with the competition.
Came out with the Mr. T starter set.
Top tier bike equals top tier failure 😅
Hard to tell. Seems sus. But congrats on your mention - that's bad ass.
clearly no FEA strength analysis done on that handlebars, the only "engineering done on that handlebar is to keep undercuts away
dude needs scooby doo.... somebody tried to killl him twice lol
Why not using a simple ZIPP SL 70 Carbon, its like a rock, without problems since many thousand km on a gravel bike. Stupid eingeneeiring. Should not happens in 2023 - awesome - NOT! :D Just dont buy carbon bars with inner cable routing!
What do people expect on these cheap bikes?
Considering how widespread handlebar recalls are in the past I am going to say this is an instant F for them. But they will likely be fine considering how little publicity this has. Will be interesting to see the end result, if we do get it.
Chris M. Ozzie Ozzie Ozzie
ALLOY BARS!!!
I didn’t know even know the Persian guy in 300 had a name. I only knew him as the Persian guy.
Lmao Persian guy
This is why I would never use "aero" carbon bars. A nice, aerodynamically inefficient cylindrical bar, sure. I have cylindrical carbon bars on one bike. I have no bikes with cables or hoses routed through the stem and head tube, nor do I have any plans to acquire such a bike. Too much hassle for too little gain.
We are going to see alot more of these failures with all this integration and concealed cables through the stem section.
@@waynosfotos I suspect you are correct.
@Waynos Fotos huh? They've been fully integrated since disc brakes came in, no handle bars have repeatedly been broken like these.
overtighten bolts of hoods? hard to believe anything else, other guys from the team had no problems, and they also had crashes
That is not where it broke.
That looks exactly like where it broke...
@@waynosfotos Yeah, the break is well above the handlebar clamp. _Maybe_ it could be argued that a stress riser could have been caused by the edge of the top of the hood, but I seriously doubt that.
@@trekkeruss you could argue this away as a once off. But two in the same spot???
@@waynosfotos I am not saying there is not some kind of flaw. I am merely (speculating) that it has nothing to do with the brifters or how they are mounted.
With absolutely no quotable statistics to back this up whatsoever my feeling is that there are many crashes in basically every bike race but I cannot recall any broken bars in a long time. To me, this indicates that Bianci have simply made too many compromises in the name of weight savings. Or they just made a mistake with their design. I have no idea if the bars are actually light.
GC… is it possible the bars used on the race bikes are slightly different than the bars used for the bike sold to general public? I mean the race teams may use completely different (lighter) bars,,, or maybe they are modifying the bars to make them lighter. i mean these are race teams and they may be doing something different in these team bikes.
this is an obvious engineer's mistake
This means no to Bianchi🤦🏾♂️
Carbon parts of ALL types are massively overbuilt to handle getting knocked around. These maybe just aren't. Fine for normal riding but not for repeated crashes.
Carbon is just as strong as alloy and perfectly safe for all bike components. The science is settled, haters. *eye roll*
That feature is meant to use 500m before the finishing line to get more aero. Guess he burnt his match too early.
Stop window shopping and go ahead and buy that Sony TV
Lmfaoooooo so many ads
Btw… once you say “please like and subscribe”.. you’re a UA-camr
Lmao I don’t think I have ever said that
There were A LOT of crashes in that race. I mean a lot. These were the only handle bars that broke.
Did any other Bianchi crash that day?
Goid thing he didn't ride Zipp wheels to go😆😂
Lmfao. Triple whammy
Never been a fan of carbon handlebars smh
Kind of a false premise which you alluded to GC. Things break when you crash.
Mechanical engineers' perspective...mine. Aero bikes are naturally heavy due to section modulus trying to pierce the wind efficiently and yet have torsional stiffness to offset big boy pro cycling pedal load aka watts. So, other areas like stems, seatposts and handlebars have to be made as light as possible because aero and weight tend to be mutually exclusive.
So, the handlebar is made lightweight which likely gives it a friendly flex but no it won't hold up to crash scenarios.
This is what I think will happen. The team moving forward will not ride this handlebar. They will make a change for the entire team. This feedback will go back to Bianchi's design center and Bianchi will make a mold and/or carbon weave change and change the name of the handlebar and re-release it. It will end up being a few grams heavier.
The reality of design is...racing and design are iterative. Engineers can do all the lab testing and computer modeling in the world but the crucible for design robustness is real life experience and racers expose the weak links of design because of their strength.
PS. speaking of design, Bianchi copied Cervelo's ski slope riser stem in an effort to reduce aka shorten headtube length to reduce frontal drag of the bike. Somehow this so called signature of Cervelo race bikes has make it into Bianchi's design DNA. A last note about design is, invention in the wild is extremely rare. Most designs are 'borrowed' and tweaked to avert patent infringement.
Marketing aka lies are the new truth. Worse than ever.
Its also literally on the same place so that is the weak spot
Gc =cycling daddy
Big brand bikes and their overpriced chinese crap - name more iconic duo, lmao
One suggestion from me, I do like your vids but can you please cut down the length of your intros/ other people’s channels etc - I just find them too much and keep spending time just scrolling to your actual video content. Just cut to the topic and cut out the pre intro faf👍🏽
I see your point but I like his content including the intro. In the sea of content designed for the attention deficient population, these guys have to give shout outs to channels that buck the trend (read: f'g UA-cam Shorts) , that helps them stay alive. Better options would be for you to double tap to advance for touch, arrow keys for a keyboard, scroll etc., or for GC to add timestamps in his video description. Cool as always GC, you're Killin'it.
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Just giving a shoutout to another channel. And speaking to you guys like you were in my home.
40cm bar chopped to 20cm. Very areo
There was a bianchi recall apparently: ua-cam.com/video/vxoozD4WdJk/v-deo.html
Maybe mechanic over tightened the lever clamp bolts. Really shouldn't crack that easilly.
GC will you sponsor me?
This is why I will always use metal bars. I will take the extra weight if it means I keep my teeth