this thing with a full tank body on it and camera system driving around the neighborhood from a kilometer away will be so awesome and there is some serious tech inside too I was thinking a simple rc set up but using the game pad bumps this up to full blown homebrew tank drone level
You definitely have your work cut out for ya brother, this is Engineering GOLD. just make those wooden dowels a bit shorter and you have a setup that is primed for a model tank model chassis of any choice desired. DANM I need ppl like you around me. As i build tank chassis as a hobby. You are the answer to all my RC 1/8 1/10 scale tank questions.
this is a pretty cool design. i did have an idea on how to increase the front tension wheels, use double bigbore 50w shocks, id love to see the final product.
nice job men i loved your work , if i was you i will do this things : -pick up an bicycle air chamber, cut rectangles an glue them to the chain not to wear out. - diminush the gears numbers, search printers old parts were u can get few of them (more resistant), put them in a sealed liquid oil also can work fine. - in arduino code were u have the min an max accelarater value, set a parameter so diminuish the accelaration from value 1200 to 1800 , to dont speed so fast - you also put some rubber orings to get more grip and protections in the wheels. greetings from portugal , im still waiting the day when i will money to buy one 3d printer
Without watching the other videos I will take a shot at the gears stripping. When the skipping teeth started, I seen a lot of chassis flex in between the 2 tracks. That little bit of flex could be the root of the problem. The first part of the test drive all was fine it sounded. But as it started to “break in” the chassis became loose and then just got worse.
Thanks for sharing your project. I think to many viewers get an expectation that all projects need to be "finished, short videos, and completed in 3 weeks". I like the project and look forward to seeing it complete. I don't mind the babbling, helps understand why you did what you did. I wish I could have heard what you were saying outside a little better, but it is what it is. I know you plan on a redesign with belt drive. Couple of other considerations first. You might try Helical gears, they run quieter and have more teeth engaged at one time so are less likely to strip. Also Tulman Nylon is a very good print material for gears. Nylon is self lubricating, and not brittle. Prints about like ABS, the only thing to look out for is moisture in the filament during printing. But I heard Nylon gets stronger as it absorbs moisture in the air. Like you said adding blocks could help, but also just upping the shaft and bearing size could help too. Second consideration would be a worm drive. Mount the motors more forward and in line, with a worm gear and then a second reduction with a belt if needed. As someone else mentioned ramping in the software would help as well. Good luck. It's your project, do it how you would like, there is no one right answer to how it needs to be. But please keep us informed of the progress.
Thanks cheeto4493 That's a really great comment and I appreciate it. The Sabretooth motor controller does have ramping option and I will be enabling it later. I forgot about that feature until it was mentioned here. Helical gears would've been a good choice. I hadn't consider that. Might be worth spending some time on. Switching to belt drive is proving to be very difficult. Nylon helical gears might just be a better solution.
Hey man, cool project. I'm also doing a project like this one, but i'm using a raspberry pi with bluetooth, i can connect the controller direct to the pi and do stuff without others things. I've seeing you're using the analog sticks to "gas", they have noise to control a motor, use the trigger RT, and the left analog sticker to module the pwm motors.. just a idea. sorry for the bad english. Regards from Brazil!
Very awesome build, curious to see the future of it. Did you consider like a soft start an stop for the gears? Just a thought. Keep up the awesome work!
Thanks! I didn't build in the motor ramping for this test. But it's obvious that it's needed. The Sabertooth Motor Controller has built in ramping that I'll be using if/when I get back to this project.
1: I don't need more power. 2: Brushless motors require proper use of an ESC which would take up a lot more processing power on the Arduino. With all the other bits to come, that just wouldn't be possible. Using the Sabertooth controller and brushed motors means the Arduino does very little work to control the motors.
Why not use GT2 toothed belts? They'd be quiet and would have the same precision as gears. PS: If it was me, I'd setup the controls like a 'real' tank, two fwd/back speed controls, one for the Left tread, the other for the Right. Total control of the turning rate, etc. No processing needed by the arduino or speed controller at all... ;-)
By reading all this post I think you started a tank war about sharing ure ideas & files,too each their own I say but sharing means they will share back to you also,anyway many Tanks for the video sharing mate!And a great build what made or inspired you to do it?
could you set it up like a real tank? left stick controls forward and reverse of the left tread and vice versa for right stick. Both sticks forward to go forward. Or one stick does both like a power chair.
Hi really great project. :) Your comment about how your not going to share the files, have you considered that sharing the STL files, sharing the Arduino code etc might get you community involvement and community help in working out the bugs that your having? Having to source and design in new shocks, better & stronger drive system etc, is easy if you just share the STL's or better yet the STP files. Working with a community can also help you avoid problems before you even have them, saving you wasted time and aggravation, because other people may think of something that you might not even realize could be an issue until after that issue has has turned into a problem.
His choice of words make it sound like he considers it too difficult for the rest of us mere mortals.. I'll not be wasting more time watching his efforts.
All you have to do is Zip the files in one folder ..... The comment that you seem to think you are the only one that could be able to build that project is a bit insulting ! I found the first vid and watched them all with you stating that you were going to post the files ... I am a tool and die maker .. I thought when I saw this it would be a cool build for me to do out of aluminum ... Not sure why would even be doing these build vids if you don't intend on following threw ?
Why do so many people think they should be entitled to the files right now? As I said, several times in several videos, I might post the final full design when I'm complete. Not likely going to post individual STL files.
not entitled.... I would be happy with dxf on the parts because I would be machining them ..... Wouldn't hurt you to make a few friends and maybe some one would have made you some metal gears and aluminum plates with hardened shafts that would not bend as a thank you for sharing .... Just food for thought man ... that's the thing about this hobby .. Some times a little bit of hassle can get a big reword .. I make things for people all the time and most are trades . I have the scrap material to build and they have the plans . so I build 2 one for them one for me : ) ... Not trying to sway you , I know its "YOUR " plans,prints , files , and ideas .... I got it ! Just took offence about the comments about other people being able to build it ! I liked the scale of it ... thought building something of that size out of aluminum would be cool ... Got no interest in your transition design though ... personally I would build 2 small hydraulic motors and mount them direct like I used on my rc cat bulldozer .. but that's just my ideas .. and not subjections ... just what I want to do with a tank style build of that size .... so excuse me for having interest in wanting to build something cool based of something you designed !
OMG ! Respect mister !!! here in blegium 3D Printer are so expensif ! minimum 500 euro for a piece of shit or 750 for a "correct" thing ...me i make made build an rc cars with "méccano" toys parts
Looks like you have little to no proportional control. Common with game controllers as most are all on, all off. figure how to use a two channel rc controller.
Ok here we go again..ok kitecraft no offense to you but why are you getting involved with what me and bradley are talking about? This is a free country and i have the right to voice my opinion and if you or anybody doesnt like it tough luck! Call donald trump bcus im sure if he didnt like it he would say it to use faces and you couldnt do a dam thing about it! Done!
Yea I think that sums it up quite nicely!!! Lets not forget rebwar08 thoughtfully pointed out that it is a free country, and that you, just like me, have the right to our opinions. DUH! I am thinking that he missed the part that this was an experimental tank that you were making with 3D printed parts. Nice job Kitecraft, keep up the great work. I have been building models since I was 8, been a tool & die maker/machine builder for 23 years and a computer tech for 18 years. I just got my first 3D printer about 2 months ago and am having a blast with it. If you ever need someone to chat with or bounce ideas off of It would be my pleasure!
rebwar08 piss off mate. Hate these kind of comments. I bet if this bloke was rambling (which I enjoyed btw) you wouldn’t cut him off and criticised him for his enthusiasm and “un interesting” design. Sorry, finally got triggered. kitecraft keep up the awesome work man. I enjoyed the babbling ;)
Bradley P who really asked you for your opinion? I felt what i said was 100 percent true and speak only the facts..i think personally theres too much talking for a tracked vehicle that looks like rather boring. I myself build 1/8 and 1/6 scale rc tanks from scratch weighing in at 80 to 215 lbs using foam molds and molten aluminum and these are tanks almost like the real thing im talking aluminum hull steel rotating turrets,sprockets,aluminum and zinc road wheels. And sand casted tank tracks and soon i will post a video myself and you will see its far more interrsting than this. i do give this builder credit in his build but if you want to impress me build a real to scale rc tank not some 3d printed concoction that if it ever does a 360 pivot in the dirt the tracks would probably break off or the sprockets may strip. But how bout you bro what can you build?
@redwar08 Couldn't care less about impressing you or comparing projects. And simply posting your own opinion here invites others to post their opinions as well. I also don't care about your own projects.
Very awesome project -- congrats on your excellent design and execution.
thanks for this awesome video! hands down, just awesome! :)
Nice and smooth running.
this thing with a full tank body on it and camera system driving around the neighborhood from a kilometer away will be so awesome and there is some serious tech inside too I was thinking a simple rc set up but using the game pad bumps this up to full blown homebrew tank drone level
You definitely have your work cut out for ya brother, this is Engineering GOLD. just make those wooden dowels a bit shorter and you have a setup that is primed for a model tank model chassis of any choice desired. DANM I need ppl like you around me. As i build tank chassis as a hobby. You are the answer to all my RC 1/8 1/10 scale tank questions.
this is a pretty cool design. i did have an idea on how to increase the front tension wheels, use double bigbore 50w shocks, id love to see the final product.
nice job men i loved your work ,
if i was you i will do this things :
-pick up an bicycle air chamber, cut rectangles an glue them to the chain not to wear out.
- diminush the gears numbers, search printers old parts were u can get few of them (more resistant), put them in a sealed liquid oil also can work fine.
- in arduino code were u have the min an max accelarater value, set a parameter so diminuish the accelaration from value 1200 to 1800 , to dont speed so fast
- you also put some rubber orings to get more grip and protections in the wheels.
greetings from portugal , im still waiting the day when i will money to buy one 3d printer
Without watching the other videos I will take a shot at the gears stripping. When the skipping teeth started, I seen a lot of chassis flex in between the 2 tracks. That little bit of flex could be the root of the problem. The first part of the test drive all was fine it sounded. But as it started to “break in” the chassis became loose and then just got worse.
amazing work
awesome video! nothing wrong with the video length thanks!!!
Thanks Tiernan. I'm glad you enjoyed the content.
This is bad ass cant wait to see more.
awesome!! Get some better motors i think. "Oh something is wrong, hold on let me try something" That sums up RC life
Thanks for sharing your project. I think to many viewers get an expectation that all projects need to be "finished, short videos, and completed in 3 weeks". I like the project and look forward to seeing it complete. I don't mind the babbling, helps understand why you did what you did. I wish I could have heard what you were saying outside a little better, but it is what it is.
I know you plan on a redesign with belt drive. Couple of other considerations first. You might try Helical gears, they run quieter and have more teeth engaged at one time so are less likely to strip. Also Tulman Nylon is a very good print material for gears. Nylon is self lubricating, and not brittle. Prints about like ABS, the only thing to look out for is moisture in the filament during printing. But I heard Nylon gets stronger as it absorbs moisture in the air.
Like you said adding blocks could help, but also just upping the shaft and bearing size could help too.
Second consideration would be a worm drive. Mount the motors more forward and in line, with a worm gear and then a second reduction with a belt if needed.
As someone else mentioned ramping in the software would help as well.
Good luck. It's your project, do it how you would like, there is no one right answer to how it needs to be. But please keep us informed of the progress.
Thanks cheeto4493 That's a really great comment and I appreciate it. The Sabretooth motor controller does have ramping option and I will be enabling it later. I forgot about that feature until it was mentioned here. Helical gears would've been a good choice. I hadn't consider that. Might be worth spending some time on. Switching to belt drive is proving to be very difficult. Nylon helical gears might just be a better solution.
Very cool project!
reminds me of those little tank turrets in battlefield 4
Please consider sharing the files!
Hello,
Where are you on this tank project? Any progress? Video?
if you want to skip to the drive click here 18:52
Hey! What ever happened to the tank project?
The interface between gears seems to be wrong due spacing. The need to have some adjustment
nice ,,you may have a smoother run if you use "ramping" in ur code its a lot easier on the hardware
Exactly. Limiting the torgue would make it last longer. It would also smooth out the jerks whenever the transceiver looses a packet or two.
Awesome!!!
im just getting into robotics and im learning a lot from you thanks. my goal is to automate my argo.
Wow! Thanks wildmanargo. Glad I could help in some way.
Nice design and all but this video could have been 5 min long not almost 40 damn. But hey it's your channel
After never stopping talking about the sabertooth something controller. I skipped 5 min ahead and got "the stalling is over"... continues to stall.
Hey man, cool project. I'm also doing a project like this one, but i'm using a raspberry pi with bluetooth, i can connect the controller direct to the pi and do stuff without others things. I've seeing you're using the analog sticks to "gas", they have noise to control a motor, use the trigger RT, and the left analog sticker to module the pwm motors.. just a idea. sorry for the bad english. Regards from Brazil!
please mention all eletrornic part in desc
Great video !!!
Very awesome build, curious to see the future of it. Did you consider like a soft start an stop for the gears? Just a thought. Keep up the awesome work!
Thanks! I didn't build in the motor ramping for this test. But it's obvious that it's needed. The Sabertooth Motor Controller has built in ramping that I'll be using if/when I get back to this project.
i want you make vedeo re-design the entire drive system controller
Are those motors the 775 ones?
Did you 3d print the gears out of nylon?
Hi can you please put the files of your track on the website.
why would you not use brushless motors for this? 10x the power in the same space
1: I don't need more power.
2: Brushless motors require proper use of an ESC which would take up a lot more processing power on the Arduino. With all the other bits to come, that just wouldn't be possible. Using the Sabertooth controller and brushed motors means the Arduino does very little work to control the motors.
Why not use GT2 toothed belts? They'd be quiet and would have the same precision as gears.
PS: If it was me, I'd setup the controls like a 'real' tank, two fwd/back speed controls, one for the Left tread, the other for the Right. Total control of the turning rate, etc. No processing needed by the arduino or speed controller at all... ;-)
you need to make the tack closer together(it look like some thing from a...none realistic move)
real neat .
By reading all this post I think you started a tank war about sharing ure ideas & files,too each their own I say but sharing means they will share back to you also,anyway many Tanks for the video sharing mate!And a great build what made or inspired you to do it?
Are there STL files available on Thingiverse?
Nice !!
Nice
Nice really!
That is so cool!
Seems quite noisy tho or is that just the mic picking it up so strong?
The gears are quite noisy. It's one of the reasons why I'm looking into replacing the gear boxes with belt drive system.
could you set it up like a real tank? left stick controls forward and reverse of the left tread and vice versa for right stick. Both sticks forward to go forward. Or one stick does both like a power chair.
Yes, setting up dual stick control would be an easy change to make.
Hi really great project. :)
Your comment about how your not going to share the files, have you
considered that sharing the STL files, sharing the Arduino code etc
might get you community involvement and community help in working out
the bugs that your having? Having to source and design in new shocks,
better & stronger drive system etc, is easy if you just share the
STL's or better yet the STP files. Working with a community can also
help you avoid problems before you even have them, saving you wasted
time and aggravation, because other people may think of something that
you might not even realize could be an issue until after that issue has
has turned into a problem.
His choice of words make it sound like he considers it too difficult for the rest of us mere mortals.. I'll not be wasting more time watching his efforts.
You have to do litl bit sport
Looking for some tracks/wheels for a project about that size... where did you buy them from?
Everything is my own design and 3D printed.
Kudos! Excellent stuff.. in which case I better check out your previous vid.
I appreciate it. This video is in a playlist. The other videos go into great depth about my design and choice of options. Cheers!
He made them duh
All you have to do is Zip the files in one folder ..... The comment that you seem to think you are the only one that could be able to build that project is a bit insulting ! I found the first vid and watched them all with you stating that you were going to post the files ... I am a tool and die maker .. I thought when I saw this it would be a cool build for me to do out of aluminum ... Not sure why would even be doing these build vids if you don't intend on following threw ?
Why do so many people think they should be entitled to the files right now? As I said, several times in several videos, I might post the final full design when I'm complete. Not likely going to post individual STL files.
not entitled.... I would be happy with dxf on the parts because I would be machining them ..... Wouldn't hurt you to make a few friends and maybe some one would have made you some metal gears and aluminum plates with hardened shafts that would not bend as a thank you for sharing .... Just food for thought man ... that's the thing about this hobby .. Some times a little bit of hassle can get a big reword .. I make things for people all the time and most are trades . I have the scrap material to build and they have the plans . so I build 2 one for them one for me : ) ... Not trying to sway you , I know its "YOUR " plans,prints , files , and ideas .... I got it ! Just took offence about the comments about other people being able to build it ! I liked the scale of it ... thought building something of that size out of aluminum would be cool ... Got no interest in your transition design though ... personally I would build 2 small hydraulic motors and mount them direct like I used on my rc cat bulldozer .. but that's just my ideas .. and not subjections ... just what I want to do with a tank style build of that size .... so excuse me for having interest in wanting to build something cool based of something you designed !
Thank you for your response
hi friend have with you send me this project
i think i saw this guy at walmart
OMG ! Respect mister !!! here in blegium 3D Printer are so expensif ! minimum 500 euro for a piece of shit or 750 for a "correct" thing ...me i make made build an rc cars with "méccano" toys parts
Sweet! Is it going to stay as wide as it is in the future?
Thanks!
That's a good question. I forgot to address this in the video, but it's about 10 cm wider than I intend the final tank to be.
kitecraft bro can you share the files for free ,please .
Caleb Sherman i
he's a procrastinator like me
make johnny 5
Looks like you have little to no proportional control. Common with game controllers as most are all on, all off. figure how to use a two channel rc controller.
Ok here we go again..ok kitecraft no offense to you but why are you getting involved with what me and bradley are talking about? This is a free country and i have the right to voice my opinion and if you or anybody doesnt like it tough luck! Call donald trump bcus im sure if he didnt like it he would say it to use faces and you couldnt do a dam thing about it! Done!
I'm involved because it's my video thread you dumbass.
Yea I think that sums it up quite nicely!!! Lets not forget rebwar08 thoughtfully pointed out that it is a free country, and that you, just like me, have the right to our opinions. DUH! I am thinking that he missed the part that this was an experimental tank that you were making with 3D printed parts. Nice job Kitecraft, keep up the great work. I have been building models since I was 8, been a tool & die maker/machine builder for 23 years and a computer tech for 18 years. I just got my first 3D printer about 2 months ago and am having a blast with it. If you ever need someone to chat with or bounce ideas off of It would be my pleasure!
Video needs to be shorter
Way too much talking to show a un interesting tracked vehicle
Ya, I do tend to babble on a bit. Thanks for the feedback.
rebwar08 piss off mate. Hate these kind of comments. I bet if this bloke was rambling (which I enjoyed btw) you wouldn’t cut him off and criticised him for his enthusiasm and “un interesting” design.
Sorry, finally got triggered.
kitecraft keep up the awesome work man. I enjoyed the babbling ;)
Bradley P who really asked you for your opinion? I felt what i said was 100 percent true and speak only the facts..i think personally theres too much talking for a tracked vehicle that looks like rather boring. I myself build 1/8 and 1/6 scale rc tanks from scratch weighing in at 80 to 215 lbs using foam molds and molten aluminum and these are tanks almost like the real thing im talking aluminum hull steel rotating turrets,sprockets,aluminum and zinc road wheels. And sand casted tank tracks and soon i will post a video myself and you will see its far more interrsting than this. i do give this builder credit in his build but if you want to impress me build a real to scale rc tank not some 3d printed concoction that if it ever does a 360 pivot in the dirt the tracks would probably break off or the sprockets may strip. But how bout you bro what can you build?
@redwar08 Couldn't care less about impressing you or comparing projects. And simply posting your own opinion here invites others to post their opinions as well. I also don't care about your own projects.
@Bradley P Thanks bud. One of these days I'll finish the conversion over to belt drive and will post a video of the updated drive system. Cheers!