MTG - Ravos, Soultender/Reyhan, Last of the Abzan $50 “Budget” Commander/EDH Deck Tech!

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  • @TheManaSource
    @TheManaSource  8 років тому +55

    Really hope you enjoy the list! Prices usually fluctuate like mad as soon as the list goes up, but the total cost of the deck should stay relatively low.
    Thanks for watching and have a Happy Thanksgiving U.S viewers! For you international friends, HUGS! :D

    • @plasmawisp18
      @plasmawisp18 8 років тому +2

      Wedge, I think you missed an upgrade. I know you hate her, but Meren of Clan Nel Toth would slot perfectly in this strategy

    • @TheManaSource
      @TheManaSource  8 років тому +2

      Great suggestion! Wish I had more time to name them all!

    • @cicjose6016
      @cicjose6016 8 років тому

      no Death's Presence?

    • @TransHammer
      @TransHammer 8 років тому

      TheManaSource What about Primal Vigor?

    • @ThenewWereWolfGod
      @ThenewWereWolfGod 8 років тому +1

      TheManaSource I'm infamous at my store for playing budget decks in every format so a few more cards to pick up could be fumigate for if you need a board wipe as well as nevenralls disk because you shouldn't worry too much about losing your stuff.

  • @AhMrJIAssume
    @AhMrJIAssume 8 років тому +9

    Persist creatures were made for this deck, the +1 counters enabling persist gives you tons of board presence

  • @shmergulflargamish7686
    @shmergulflargamish7686 8 років тому +17

    I'd like to see a part 2 to this, for a high budget build.

    • @zachisbell7333
      @zachisbell7333 7 років тому +1

      High budget most likely gonna have walking ballista doubling season parrel lives and gaes cradle

  • @Jugglerman
    @Jugglerman 8 років тому +4

    Please do more budget commander videos. Getting into the format and love these videos!

  • @notjoaquindecastro
    @notjoaquindecastro 8 років тому

    Thanks for creating this video Wedge. I bought the Breed Lethality Commander Pre Con, and I love the play style of the deck itself with +1/+1 Counters flying everywhere and all that. However, I wasn't comfortable with making Atraxa my Commander. Every other person at my LGS who bought Breed Lethality upgraded their Atraxa decks into infinitely better versions than anything I could come up with or even afford. I've played against Infect, Super Friends, and just generally good +1/+1 Counter decks that were hilariously outside of my budget, and I realized that if I upgraded my own Atraxa deck, it would just be a strictly worse version of theirs. Not to mention variety would be thrown out the window since nearly everybody in my LGS wanted the get Breed Lethality in the first place, myself included. I started using Reyhan, Last of the Abzan and Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker Partnered together, of course, and I liked how easily the two synergized with the deck, not to the same extent as Atraxa obviously. It's been especially fun since not everybody has played with Partner Commanders before, so playing with the two was an adventure to everybody else who haven't seen anything like it before. Because of this, I got the idea of building an Abzan Counter deck using Partner Commanders. I've been putting it off for a while now, but suddenly this video pops up in my Subscription Feed. This video contained pretty much everything I was looking for in the first place, a budget Abzan build using my favorite synergies. It's just great for a guy who isn't quite interested in building around one of the traditional 4-Color Commanders, opting for the one underrated Partner combinations instead.

  • @jonathanurquhart3923
    @jonathanurquhart3923 7 років тому

    I built this deck last week and made a few changes to it. I gotta say this is totally my new favorite deck. Thank you

  • @Woody-fv7uu
    @Woody-fv7uu 3 роки тому +1

    I run this partner pairing and its a persist combo deck.Threatening to win turn 4. No a bad budget either.

  • @thormachinejean4842
    @thormachinejean4842 8 років тому +6

    Up late working on what partners to run. "Lets watch so UA-cam to clear my mind." KNOCK KNOCK OPEN UP THE TAB ITS REAL! ManaSource always delivers

  • @ytkob
    @ytkob 8 років тому

    It's cool to see the partners getting some love. My idea for an abzan partner build was Tymna the Weaver plus Sidar Kondo. Attacking everyone with small evasive dudes and drawing 4ish cards each turn.

  • @NecroAsphyxia
    @NecroAsphyxia 8 років тому +2

    love the deck! Super cool and honestly probably better than buying the pre-con in power vs price.
    Another interesting option I have Been thinking of is Tana +Sidar zerg deck with Saprolings acting as the "zerg" (naya has the best saproling production anyway) and maybe have them as some added fuel (Thromok to end games, altars toget mana out of them, skullclamp for card draw, ect).

  • @corrosivecabal
    @corrosivecabal 8 років тому

    I built Reyhan/Ravos last week. I couldn't find any decklists, so it's reassuring to see I didn't botch the build. I went a tad wider with Mer-ek nightblade and the like. And then threw in cards I just want to play, Meren, Anafenza, Skullbriar, Creakwood Leige, and Doomgape. These commanders really speak to the inner Timmy.

  • @johnmeyer8078
    @johnmeyer8078 8 років тому +9

    no mention of cathar's crusade?

  • @DaleChristian1987
    @DaleChristian1987 7 років тому

    Interesting. Build my own not-so-budget version and I am very happy about it. Let me Suggest few great cards:
    Blade of Selves - combo with Reyhan. Attach, attack, get numerous triggers from multiple Reyhan when they die due to legendary rule and make it humongous
    Avenger of Zendikar - green autoinclude. Also counters!
    Oketra, Rhonas and Predator Ooze - perfect indestructible creatures to playce your counters on after wrath
    Cathar’s Crusade - come on, auto-include
    Austere Command - great staple, every W deck should run it
    Qasali Pridemage - perfect for reccursion without a sac outlet
    Scavanging Ooze - more counters and grave hate
    Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter - an absolute beast in this deck, can’t recommend enough
    Other goodies: Aura Shards, Aceticism, Ajani Goldmane, Gavony Township, Vault of the Archangel, Winding Constrictor, Spike Weaver, Sheoldred

  • @JesterHopperpot
    @JesterHopperpot 8 років тому

    This looks incredibly fun to me! Thanks for the ideas Wedge.

  • @raphaelcristofaro5117
    @raphaelcristofaro5117 8 років тому

    That was awesome! I'd personally go Sultai with Reyhan + Silas for lots of Glissa's synergies and Blue card advantage, but Abzan is also solid.

  • @rachelrakowski4488
    @rachelrakowski4488 8 років тому +3

    I am so, so happy that I already own 90% of this deck list.

  • @PandaJNiccals
    @PandaJNiccals 7 років тому

    I'd love to see more of your ideas for partner builds. They're my favorite kind of commanders.

  • @dantebiggs8796
    @dantebiggs8796 8 років тому +6

    Was playing this deck against a buddy on Xmage before deciding to buy it. Hangerback walker made me 15830 thopters and promptly crashed both our clients........10/10 would crash client again. TCG here I come. @TheManaSource

    • @kbeadle23
      @kbeadle23 7 років тому

      that is crazy! i need that in my life lol

  • @estebanramirez1178
    @estebanramirez1178 3 роки тому +1

    Just saying, if you could add ways of giving creatures trample, you could run Single Combat. It’s kind of boardwipe, except each player gets one creature. Isn’t it convenient that all of our +1/+1 counters could get piled up into one creature? Use that for the finishing blow if the situation calls for it.

  • @mmlgamer
    @mmlgamer 8 років тому

    Eldrazi Displacer can blink Reyhan and trigger it if you redirect Reyhan to the command zone. Since Eldrazi Displacer doesn't say "return the exiled card", it will see Reyhan in the command zone and return it from there. Also, if you include Workhorse....

  • @bozzy7946
    @bozzy7946 8 років тому +1

    I'm just getting back into magic, and I'm all about budgets, I might build this.

  • @alexhanser560
    @alexhanser560 8 років тому +1

    Seriously love this deck. built a variant. I do t care if I never win with it, I love having 30/30's that scare the table. gotta say, my fav sac outlet is EVOLUTIONARY LEAP!!!! so shocked wedge never put that one in this deck!

  • @davida.yorkson3397
    @davida.yorkson3397 8 років тому

    Finally! Someone posts my deck online, almost. I run Ghave and my biggest issue is only having 100 slots to build the deck with... won't someone make 200 card commander decks? 150 and I'd be happy as a saproling entering the battlefield with Trostani, Archangel of Thune, Cathars' Crusade and a buff Booodspore Thrinax next to it.

  • @giancarlozambello5291
    @giancarlozambello5291 8 років тому

    Love the deck. Please do more of these interchanged partner decks

  • @chaerilins
    @chaerilins 8 років тому

    I think Inspiring Call would be an auto-include in this thing. It’s card draw in Green that synergizes with your counter strategy and protects your creatures.

  • @Atnat57
    @Atnat57 6 років тому

    Thank you for this video! I have a really inconsistent Dagatar deck that I would love to be more consistent and it should only take like $20 worth of cards to convert that to this

  • @lunao17
    @lunao17 8 років тому

    I think Drana, Liberator of Malakir would be a great addition to it too. More counters on your creatures, she has flying and first strike.

  • @matt90998
    @matt90998 8 років тому

    i was already working on this deck im glad for the help somethings i didn't think of

  • @oneyonfire
    @oneyonfire 8 років тому

    Looks really fun! Evolutionary Leap wouldn't be a bad budget sacrifice effect either.

  • @TheRedGauntlet
    @TheRedGauntlet 8 років тому

    Reyhan+Silas sounds also incredibly fun. A Sultai Modular deck finally.

  • @joshbartling2107
    @joshbartling2107 11 місяців тому

    I wanted to throw in some upgrade paths for those who know this video is now nearing a decade old. And I still love this deck, it's still one of my favorite commander decks and that's why I want to give some paths. I won't cover what to take out though some choices are pretty obvious. Let's start with ramp. I go hard on the sac so finding more yav elder effects are nice. I'd recommend also adding Diligent Farmhand and Sakura Tribe Elder. I'd also upgrade sac outlets, my favorite currently is Attrition. My last upgrade is in the counters and fatties. I'd recommend adding Branching Evolution, Sovereign Okinec, Doubling Season. We have some better options with the fatties as well with Voracious Hydra, Kalonian Hydra, and Primordial Hydra since they all work toward doubling counters again. I also threw in Genesis Hydra since it's always fun to hit X 40 on it. Also added Gargos since most of the deck is hydras anyway we might as well go full tilt. Most of these should be pretty budget friendly picks as well though not all. Pick and choose and have fun! Hail Hydra!

  • @SlowHymntv
    @SlowHymntv 8 років тому +1

    So up my alley, immediately clicked the link to go buy on tcgplayer. so into this list and i love budget commander, i feel like its the only format where budget stuff can really shine. thanks wedge!

  • @mitchviele7548
    @mitchviele7548 8 років тому

    Great video wedge, this deck looks very fun to play!

  • @tmarks2562
    @tmarks2562 7 років тому

    Hi, If anyone sees this, which Kaladesh Block cards should be included? Snake, Armorcraft Judge, Green Gearhulk, Angel Of innovation, Aetherborn Marauder, PANharmonicon?!

  • @robertdroste6267
    @robertdroste6267 8 років тому

    Love this list!!! So building it this Friday

  • @NeoSamurai13
    @NeoSamurai13 8 років тому

    Love the deck! Though I would definitely consider adding Ayli as another sac + removal creature.

  • @brianwise5850
    @brianwise5850 8 років тому

    i can think of a few additional inclusions. were in abzan, so seige rhino because seige rhino. as well as ashnods crypt, might as well have a nice sac engine, as well as karmic guide to go with revilark....im seeing a few infinite combos that are broken. i am going to have so much fun.

    • @brianwise5850
      @brianwise5850 8 років тому

      oh did we forget panharmonicon for etb doubling as well.

    • @Hanmacx
      @Hanmacx 8 років тому

      Brian Wise Panharmonicon doesn't Double the etb counter effects.

    • @brianwise5850
      @brianwise5850 8 років тому

      Hanmacx ummm it not there for counters.

  • @Jakerunio
    @Jakerunio 8 років тому

    For upgrades Mikaeus the Unhallowed is an obvious include since you run triskelion, and ofc tutors are always good.

  • @soorian6493
    @soorian6493 8 років тому +2

    Any good "I win" cards, triskelion aside, for this deck?

  • @stewartmorris9771
    @stewartmorris9771 8 років тому +2

    If I was to upgrade this deck. Which cards should I take out? I am thinking of adding: Ajani, Mentor of Heroes, Drana, Liberator of Malakir, Anafenza, the Foremost, and Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit. Thank You!

  • @danielthomass2807
    @danielthomass2807 8 років тому

    i love the deck i just dont get how there is 2 jenrels a g b and g w so how can the deck be g w b ? IT would be a b g deck with last of asban or g w with the other other jenrel so how can it be a w b g deck ?

  • @themuffindragon
    @themuffindragon 8 років тому

    Really awesome deck tech Wedge, im excited to see some partner brewing and I may end up putting this one together after Christmas

  • @MsupermanD
    @MsupermanD 8 років тому +1

    what would you take out to add in Nissa and the Ajani's?

  • @JRPKeller
    @JRPKeller 8 років тому

    I already run a Ghave, so this is kind of a strategy I've been close to.
    I've been more wondering about using Reyhan with that Bird Monk...because...BGUW feels like a fever dream come to life.

  • @greedfires123
    @greedfires123 8 років тому

    Wayyyy ahead of you on this one, i spent a bit more, but I also really missed a couple things, looks like I'm going to make some swaps, I forgot about Vastwood Hydra, and didn't even think about adding in reveilark.
    A neat trick for you kiddies: Mindless Automaton, it will generate immense card draw for you in these types of decks.

  • @lee-johndonald1836
    @lee-johndonald1836 8 років тому

    this is really good. i have a deck that is very similar to this. i may modify it now. the only cards i dont have are those exclusive to the commander 2016 sets.

  • @LxrdGrim95
    @LxrdGrim95 6 років тому

    wish there was a link to the full deck on like tcg player or card kingdom

  • @ThePsychoVerse
    @ThePsychoVerse 8 років тому

    Love the deck! I've been wanting to get into commander, already have most of the cards for this ^^

  • @stnavellino
    @stnavellino 8 років тому

    Could you not use the Hydra that doubles +1/+1 counters on it beginning of your upkeep? It'd be bonkers good.

  • @NonkiKong
    @NonkiKong 7 років тому

    I love this deck idea, i will definitely use this one as the basis for a new deck :)
    But i noticed that you almost included no card draw, i think that should be fixed.

  • @alexmartin3433
    @alexmartin3433 6 років тому

    I love this video. I love this deck. I built it near the beginning of the year and have been upgrading it ever since, it’s beaten Moldrotha decks worth more than $1000, it’s beaten vampires, Maelstrom, and I never know how I’m going to win. Will I swing in with a 20/20 trample haste infect with putrefax by putting a bunch of 1/1 counters on him? Am I gonna mill all of my opponents out with an Altar of Dementia? Am I gonna Praetors Council and Duneblast them into oblivion with commander damage, or triskelion someone in an OTK and watch their jaw drop because they targeted something I didn’t want them to? Am I gonna swing in with 20/20 hydras that have flying, or sac a 40/40 to Jarad to deal 40 damage to all my opponents at once? The reason I love this deck so much is because it’s so different. You always see prossh or Edgar markov or derevi decks. We’ve seen them all before. No one has ever seen this deck before and it is fantastic.

  • @moonlandersgames
    @moonlandersgames 8 років тому

    Not sure on your stance on infinate combos, but Spike feeder to mix with the Archangel of thune?

  • @samuelmeyer4119
    @samuelmeyer4119 8 років тому

    given your ramp why not ulvenwald hydra? Also Krosan's grip seems better than return to dust.

  • @leebegin4168
    @leebegin4168 8 років тому

    So what would a semi budget option be if we had a budget of about $100?

  • @Jugglerman
    @Jugglerman 8 років тому +1

    You could exchange Doubling Season for Primal Vigor for a card that has the same effect for Ravos/Rehyan and a lot less expensive ;)

  • @Barjack521
    @Barjack521 7 років тому

    Building the up graded version TODAY! The folks I play are so wary of my Atraxa deck that it's not playable at my LGS. This will be the new counter nightmare i unleash on them

  • @brucemcleod4897
    @brucemcleod4897 8 років тому

    AWESOME deck tech, dude!

  • @Crinson_typhoon
    @Crinson_typhoon 8 років тому

    thinking of getting this whole deck now

  • @destructo7316
    @destructo7316 7 років тому

    im new to to commander but shoudnt there be more than 1 copy of each card or is that how commanders work with a 100 diferent cards?

  • @MasonzeroDigitalWorks
    @MasonzeroDigitalWorks 8 років тому

    This is basically my Daghatar deck, especially the Reyhan side. Also Reyhan makes Daghatar awesome.

  • @samhparker
    @samhparker 8 років тому +1

    I dare you to do a budget deck for every single partner combination! You got this :p

  • @ytkob
    @ytkob 8 років тому +1

    Dude. What about a graveyard/self-mill subtheme to synergize with Ravos? He's basically Karador. Fill the raveyard to make his upkeep trigger a toolbox with many choices. grisly salvage, satyr wayfinder, vessel of nascency, grapple with the past, jarad's orders. Redundant raveyard recursion through meren etc. Scavenge creatures to add +1/+1 counters to creatures from the raveyard?

    • @brianwise5850
      @brianwise5850 8 років тому

      ytkob if your abusing recursion my favorite is altar of the brood. best card to come out of khans. i have tortured way to many players with that card.

    • @JimJimTheMonkey
      @JimJimTheMonkey 8 років тому +1

      party at the raveyard!!!!

  • @Forthelulz01
    @Forthelulz01 8 років тому

    does Reyhan dying trigger his own ability? I thought his trigger wouldn't work on him since dying or being put into the command zone would remove him from the battlefield before the trigger is put on the stack? dying is a state based action, correct?
    I need help wedge

  • @matthewgallaway3675
    @matthewgallaway3675 8 років тому +1

    Hey what's a good budget commander for sultai graveyard shenanigans?

    • @Phayisdeadx
      @Phayisdeadx 8 років тому

      I like Sidisi brood tyrant, she fuels your grave and gets value doing it :)

  • @Spooky_Bard
    @Spooky_Bard 8 років тому

    Are you going to do other partner decks? Could I recommend Vial Smasher/Ludevic? It works on the principle of "as long as you cast a spell at some point during your turn, Ludevic triggers."

  • @zirezerimar3725
    @zirezerimar3725 8 років тому

    Epic Deck, let me congratulate you sir, THIS IS budget indeed.

  • @6rimR3ap3r
    @6rimR3ap3r 8 років тому

    Reyhan would make a sweet tiny leaders deck with all the Hydras :-)

  • @geoffclarke9375
    @geoffclarke9375 8 років тому +1

    are u gonna be doing more homebrew commander 16 deck?

  • @Barjack521
    @Barjack521 7 років тому

    Spike breeder + sac outlet + any of the various +1/+1 doublers or plus cards like hardened scales = HUGE SPIKE BREEDER

  • @JimJimTheMonkey
    @JimJimTheMonkey 8 років тому

    I might build this after scrapping my saskia deck because, I don't have enough for a great saskia deck but enough to make this work.

  • @wizkida981015
    @wizkida981015 8 років тому

    I understand you were going for budget, but I feel like Ghave is worth including here. Would that be a wrongful assumption considering his creature types?

  • @tempestandacomputer6951
    @tempestandacomputer6951 7 років тому

    How much would you alter the deck with Ghave at the helm? I started taking out some of the "recursion goodies" like Reclamation Sage which are good because of Ravos and started heading it into an aristocrat theme. Suggestions?

  • @ToasterofGod
    @ToasterofGod 8 років тому +1

    mazirek, kraul death priest will work so much in this deck

  • @obeycelestia
    @obeycelestia 8 років тому

    This is beautiful and I love it!

  • @ryanthompson56
    @ryanthompson56 8 років тому

    Why isn't Plummer the artifact creature in this it get double the counters on it then sacrifice it thats value

  • @giz6385
    @giz6385 8 років тому

    Wedge I love this strat but have you forgotten Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest!!! I was looking for good sac outlets for Atraxa and I think blue could take this over the top. I am a sucker for the Simic and I was just curious if you had any tips for building this kind of strategy into Atraxa or Redless or whatever. Love the strat lots of good things I hadn't even thought so thank you.

  • @BagelFrog
    @BagelFrog 8 років тому

    This deck seems sweet, but why didn't you interlude Meren? I think the additional recursion would be great

  • @nolanbyers4132
    @nolanbyers4132 8 років тому

    What IF you throw in Ezuri

  • @JasonOshinko
    @JasonOshinko 8 років тому

    How about Spike Feeder?

  • @GeneralPhilipLee
    @GeneralPhilipLee 8 років тому

    this deck is indeed a dream, awesome!

  • @88Hyo
    @88Hyo 8 років тому +2

    Can this be made outof a Ghave deck? I mean, it likes counters...

    • @chaerilins
      @chaerilins 8 років тому

      Well, yeah.

    • @spoopyboi1882
      @spoopyboi1882 8 років тому +1

      or you could put Ghave in it. or just have Ghave run it, with Reyhan and Ravos as part of the 99

    • @PokeHunter29
      @PokeHunter29 8 років тому

      Ashley Trammell gave doest have partner

    • @spoopyboi1882
      @spoopyboi1882 8 років тому +1

      PokeHunter29 i know that. I meant Ghave as your commander, witb Ravos and Reyhan in the 99

  • @maxsernoffsky5751
    @maxsernoffsky5751 8 років тому

    Wedge can you put the list in the description like you use to.

  • @thenerdyeel3092
    @thenerdyeel3092 8 років тому

    yo a commander deck this cheap that's actually fun and competitive I'm definitely adding this to my decks

  • @zedekuszule963
    @zedekuszule963 7 років тому

    I know I'm a year late to this video...but I built this deck and it's awesome. I would highly recommend Sheoldred, whispering one and Asceticism...that's another $20 or so but what's $70-100 on a commander deck? Nothing that's what.

  • @giarcyelpir7892
    @giarcyelpir7892 8 років тому +1

    Was the Snek printed at this time?

  • @zach_barstow
    @zach_barstow 8 років тому

    THIS DECK IS FRICKIN AMAZING

  • @ThePhoenixPaladin
    @ThePhoenixPaladin 8 років тому

    All those hydras and no hero's bane? I've had over a thousand counters on it before.

  • @ronniegeddes5072
    @ronniegeddes5072 8 років тому

    I really enjoyed this deck!

  • @dragonofthesky9999
    @dragonofthesky9999 8 років тому

    for some reason i feel like running meren with this would be better but thats just me. also im thinking something a bit more expensive cause i would be running for the usual tutors to go grab reyhan

  • @TheRedGauntlet
    @TheRedGauntlet 8 років тому

    Reyhan is probably my favourite patner commander.Shes so good

  • @metalsabatico
    @metalsabatico 8 років тому

    Carrion feeder is a good addition to this deck

  • @RPGFanboy14
    @RPGFanboy14 8 років тому

    This deck is pretty beautiful.

  • @loiusverellenii7013
    @loiusverellenii7013 8 років тому

    well done wedge another beautiful non blue deck :D

  • @ODDnanref
    @ODDnanref 8 років тому

    That base deck is similar to a Ghave deck. With the recursion and all.

  • @zilron3137
    @zilron3137 8 років тому

    What about Cathar's Crusade.. that's still budget and really powerful.

  • @andrewvonwerder1674
    @andrewvonwerder1674 8 років тому

    That was an amazing build

  • @coderJohn
    @coderJohn 8 років тому

    Hey wedge sorry for the comment being unrelated to the video but I was toying with the idea of having a deck that was built around a combo of library of leng, solitary confinement, goat mom, kher keep, and niv-mizzet the firemind. the idea is you give kobolds to your opponent with goat mom, draw a lot of cards, Niv-mizzet will deal damage, and solitary confinement will keep you invulnerable while leng library keeps you from milling yourself. what do you think wedge? I feel it's a bit too complicated but it sounds like it would be fun to play with. Any suggestions?

  • @rendevoir4736
    @rendevoir4736 8 років тому

    hey! could you try something with Merieke Ri Berit?

  • @crisgale8098
    @crisgale8098 8 років тому

    why not selfless spirit rather than dauntless escort? or both