I mean, the stomach thing makes sense. Assuming the witch doesn’t explain what sex or pregnancy is, Rapunzel probably thinks she’s getting sick or something else is happening.
Yes. In the original version, the prince feels no urgency to rescue Rapunzel quickly. He visits her and they are doing their thing for a while before Rapunzel starts to notice the changes in her body, but doesn't connect them to her s*xy time with the prince.
I think the Brothers Grimm edition had him bring a little bit of silk for her to weave into a ladder during each of his visits…doesn’t explain why he doesn’t just have someone make it for him faster.
@jam2727 You don't need to throw the silk latter up. You either have Rapunzel pull you up with the silk, or you tie it to her hair and have her pull it up and secure it when she gets it up there.
It was originally a Persian epic. with romantic connotations, only Europeans would take something about love and romance and tragedy and make it Grimm. Literally.@@Gnesiarr
@@Gnesiarr Hi, fun fact, the Grim Brothers traveled around villages over the world, like in Germany and Sweden, they asked the locals about their folklore, local fairytales and wrote them down. So no they did not in fact come up with this story on their own, hents there being a couple different endings to alot of the tales.
@@Gnesiarr “In 1808, their friend, the romantic poet Clemens Brentano, asked them to collect all types of folk tales so he could use them in a book of literary fairy tales. In 1810, they sent him fifty-four texts, which they fortunately copied.” Google says
@@Bruisedmykneesagain im so glad somebodys talking about this! the brothers had collected popular folktales and fairy tales from different towns partially due to the big influence of nationalist movements and romanticism regarding nationalism at the time they preserved their culture wonderfully, as most of these were shared orally so nobody really bothered actually writing them down anywhere so it honestly just makes me upset to see so many people calling it weird or creepy because it’s history in it’s own right it gives us an insight into storytelling from back then and it’s just interesting to know about times keep changing and whatever we’re doing now may be considered weird or stupid in the future so i don’t get it really
The Brothers Grimm collected folk stories from uneducated poor folk who lived in rough difficult circumstances. The stories were often violent because life was like that in those days. The Grimm brothers were not advising people to copy the morals in the stories. They were just collecting the culture of the poorest people in Europe at that time before it was lost.
That makes sense considering that the story is kind of an allegory for children sheltered by over protective parents. When they’re isolated from the public, and actively have information/education hidden from them, they aren’t given the chance to think critically or become well educated.
@@AmandaMerkeloverprotective the way a lot of extremely religious parents are. They shelter their children from everything they deem “from the devil” and “secular” and withhold a lot of common knowledge, but kick them out as soon as they do something that’s a direct result of that shelter, e.g. getting pregnant as a teen because you don’t know how pregnancy works or their child just growing a sense of self and rejecting the parents’ teachings, because now the child has “become tainted”
I have the complete Grimm's Brothers Fairy Tales and just read Rapunzel! The Prince finds her in the desert with their baby, her tears heal his eyes and they return to his kingdom to live happily ever after. One of the nicer endings of the tales 🎉🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
@@moth2109. Yes it is a physical book I bought at a hook store. If you just want the one story, UA-cam has some read aloud or you can google and find online 😊
Interestingly in the Barbie Rapunzel movie, she's actually quite smart. She knows not to spill any beans, and actually says to the prince not to tell her his name so she can't lie to Gothel (she doesn't even know he's the prince). This actually ends up protecting him while she sacrifices herself. It's my fav interpretation of the story ❤
Honestly, the Barbie version is one of my favorite rapunzel versions. The other favorite version is Giambattista Basile's version of Rapunzel called "Petrosinella", an early variant before the Brothers Grimm's version.
@@kaimengquek1952 🙄It's NOT "woke". Woke started in the 2020s. Tangled was from 2010, WAY before the woke agenda was formed. But Disney's not gonna be woke anymore. I'm going to change all that once I get to work at Disney.
Yep that was how Quasimodo was raised as well. Frollo chased an innocent gypsy woman that was Quasi’s mom, ending to her death when she tripped and Frollo took him in and raised him convinced by the priest. Quasi was pretty much one of the very few characters in the Disney franchise who has lost their mom. There was also some of the Disney princesses, Bambi and Tod from the 42 and 81 films.
Served the prince right. He should have had his people rescue her, instead, he keeps her there in secret as long as he can to have sex with her and get her pregnant. He could’ve immediately had his kingdom make the rope or something to get her down, rescue her, hunt down her kidnapper, jail the kidnapper, and marry Repunzel before touching her like that. The fall should’ve killed him for that. Clearly she would’ve been like a child not knowing anything about sex or pregnancy, and her mind would have been a little warped from being in that tower for so long without any formal education or real love. The prince was disgusting.
You people seem to be forgetting about the WITCH? She, unlike Rapunzel, went about in society putting curses on people. If the Prince told people to build a tower-scaling device, someone would have caught on and gossip would have spread and someone in the witch's power would have told her in return for lifting a curse or something. It was common sense to keep it secret. And no matter how old you are, you can't know about pregnancy if you've never been told about the science behind it. That was also on the witch. In those days your guardian was expected to teach you about 'the birds and the bees'; the Prince would have assumed she knew especially since she was so eager to get it on. He wouldn't have realized it was just sex instinct guiding her; he would have been raised in society where girls were taught to deny men sex unless they wanted to marry them. He would have believed Rapunzel was educated the same way and her eagerness was basically a proposal. You have to take people's circumstances into account before judging them based off your own very different ones.
IKR??? I think all of Grimm brother's prince/kings are scary men (a holes to be exact) who take advantage of the women. Think this and sleeping beauty.. these are traumatizing stories!
1. They intended to get married. The prince proposed. 2. It was Rapunzel's plan. Her captor is a witch. And the rest is just a narrative pothole which is common for a fairytale. 3. The prince did find her after wandering blindly for days, recognizing her voice. She cried on him and his eyes healed. He took her and their twin babies to the kingdom and made good on his proposal. Outrage out of ignorance should not be popularized.
1. They weren’t married though. 2. He had an entire kingdom at his disposal. 3. He still kept her a secret. He is still trash. No outrage, just a bad message to young people who’d glamorize this sick story and think it’s love. Bottom line is he knew better. Her plan was not a good one and being a prince that was not raised in captivity and ignorant, he should’ve advised better and got her out. The only ignorance is thinking there’s any outrage over fictional characters and that this story is anything but a tale of manipulation and abuse disguised as a “love story.” She should’ve left him blind. Scrolling is free my friend but you clearly felt very pressed for nothing. Argue with yourself now, I have a life.
the grimm brothers collected fairytales from different places and compiled them into a book, they didn't make them most of what's written were popular folktales or stories from different towns that were often orally shared :)
But Rapunzel's tear turned out magical and healed the prince. And Rapunzel represented boy and girl twins to the prince. We don't know what happened after that.
You left out the part where the two wander aimlessly for 10 years before reuniting and Rapunzel cures the prince with a magical teardrop and they live happily ever after with their twins.
Which is based off of the stage musical. If you liked that movie, you HAVE TO watch the filmed Original Broadway Cast pwrformance availiable here on UA-cam. Trust me when I say that it is everything the movie is, but 100× better. Just don't EVER look at the comments. You don't know the full story.
You missed a version where the witch climbs her hair, but midway through repuzel cuts her own hair and the witch is the one to fall and die on thorns. I think repunzel even conspires with the prince in that one and I’m not sure how she got down after 😅
Agreed. If you've been denied science and sex education and social conditioning, you're not going to know your 'guardian' is going to mind being asked why they're heavier than your boyfriend, or mind not being told you HAD a boyfriend! It's a bit exploring the difference between the state of nature and societal norms.
Easy to say when you've had access to public education. The witch is a monster who tries to keep Rapunzel ignorant and easy to control. She knows nothing of science and neither would you if you were raised like that. She doesn't know it's socially unacceptable to mention people's weight because she's never LIVED in society. She hasn't learned physics and doesn't know why one person weighs more than another, so she asks because she actually wants to LEARN. And she hasn't had sex ed; she's following natural biological instinct and has no way of knowing the witch will object to her having sexual relations or getting pregnant. She's not dumb. She's an example of the horrors of being denied basic education by controlling tyrants.
I remember I had a small childrens book with cartoonish drawings that told the original story and I found it brutal, but didn't think much of it. Now looking back it seems so crazy, but I guess that's what growing up in the 90ies was like.
Kids are now growing up with video games about children's corpses stuffed into animatronics and horrible experiments performed on kids to make them into life-sized toys..... But yeah the '90s was the only time period that had anything spooky for kids.... I'm a '90s kid by the way. Y'all make me really ashamed to be part of the same generation.
That's how it's growing up being a German. But I learned that not everyone reads scary fairy tales. I was disappointed when I wanted to buy a book for my eldest... And they cut all the cool stuff out... 😢
@@shadowsoulless6227 I'm not a 90's kid, but why is it always them acting like the same things didn't happen in other generations 💀 I feel bad for the ones like you
I mean, the Grimm's versions of stories aren't usually the first version. They're usually the most well-known and the first version brought to widespread print
Still basically calling her fat. Men are typically taller than women and have a higher muscle mass than women, especially old women. Muscle weighs more than fat. So if women weigh more, they’re more likely to have a lot more fat.
I had a book version that contains some of this art so I’ll retell the story how it happened in that book. Rapunzels father steals from Mother Gothels garden and she catches him, so he promises to give her his child. She takes rapunzel after she’s been born and keeps her in the tower. The prince sees her in the tower and climbs up to her, and after that rapunzel complains about her dress being tight. She is sent out to the wilderness to die, and the prince does fall off the tower, but they both don’t die and end up reuniting, and they have twins after that.
She is far from stupid. She has been locked up in the tower with little to no outside interaction except for the witch all throughout her formative years. She wasn't aware of anything beyond her little tower.
If it makes anyone feel better, I'm pretty sure the prince ended up wandering so far because he was so confused with his lack of eyesight that he still had his hearing and he heard Rapunzel singing, so they still found each other again❤
I dont blame her for saying about the prince. The old woman put her in the tower to keep her isolated, but didn't tell her that, so when she met someone, she didn't know it was a problem. Also, his eyes weren't poked out, they were pierced by the thorns. Similar result, but his eyes were still there to be healed years later
To be fair I think that second version of the story is a pretty important lesson that some people forget modern-day; It's important to remember to hold your tongue when you're around the wrong people, Or just in case you might be. Because you just might end up making a situation worse for yourself. This is a lesson that not everyone knows right off the bat, and some people take many years to learn it fully, so I don't think it's entirely fair to call her stupid.
Agreed. Rapunzel is also completely deprived of education and social conditioning - how on earth can she be expected to understand the physics of why one person is heavier or why calling someone heavy is an insult? She was actually demonstrating a curious intelligence and desire to learn; she had no way of knowing the witch would object to her having a friend or asking scientific questions! The witch is the abnormal one here!
The Bros. Grimm did NOT write any fairy tales. They merely wrote down the tales they heard from the orally preserved Old German language they uncovered when they were studying it.
I remember watching a live action version of this taped on VHS, along with Rumplestiltskin with the same actors, and she didn't tell the witch about the prince but she did catch them. The prince was blinded and Rapunzel was banished to the desert with newborn twins. It took years but the blind prince walked through the desert and found them and they lived there happily (?) ever after. It traumatized me 😂 I also had the Barbie version and I was so freaked out to see what the witch did to them. I was at the age where I thought the live action characters on TV were real
Uh..... I vividly remember watching that story When I was like idk 6😅 But the prince surprisingly manage to find Rapunzel in the desert and lived happily ever after. (But I remember it said the prince got blind not poke the eyes out)
The witch still has more power. The only way to escape her would be to keep it very secret. The Prince and Rapunzel would never have heard of Stockholm Syndrome, so it would not have occurred to him to warn her not to tell the dreaded witch. But Rapunzel doesn't know she SHOULD dread her and gives the game away. It wasn't either of their fault the witch was so evil and controlling.
I believe they both feared the witch's power. She was indeed scary. So going smoothly in secret was probably what they thought would be the best. Also, the Prince stayed true to her. In my book he calls her his wife when he's wondering blind looking for her. I don't think it's that creepy. Rapunzel fell for the prince's beauty and probably experienced pleasure with him for the first time. We all know how teen lovers are. Full of hormones.
The last part of the second story is in the musical Into The Woods. It’s a happy ending for Rapunzel and the Prince, as he finds her (tho he’s still blind) in the desert and her tears heal his eyes and makes him able to see again. They run away together after confronting the Witch.
One time I saw my mom trying to cut my little sister hair as a punishment and I said itch what do ou thing you mother gothel..and took my sister and her hair is her pride she loves it so much and it's so long..
Actually this is the version I read while growing up when we didn't have the tangle movie.... He became blind and when he was wondering since he didn't know where he was going he had a familiar voice singing and that was Rapunzel who was cast to die in the desert and she helped him cure his eyes and later depart to go to the palace not exactly the tangle type which is much different.... The original one Rapunzel is not a princess bt a child from a poor bar ground and she became a princess after marrying to the prince
The witch would have found out. It seems no one realizes what a powerful tyrant she was? I mean, she can just force a couple to give up their baby over spinach! The Prince, unlike Rapunzel, lives in society. He knows what the witch is and that they have to keep it secret. He's also probably trying to convince Rapunzel to leave - she's been raised by the witch and probably doesn't believe she's evil at first. He can't just take her away and have the witch come after her. He needed to take time to make a plan. I'm pretty sure it was all set for the next day in the original story - Rapunzel asking the witch was probably meant to demonstrate trauma bonding; she's just not ready to accept the woman who raised her would punish her for falling in love!
Continueing the story, Rapunzel and the prince manage to find each other and upon realising that he's blind, she cried, the prince's eyes got healed from the tears of Rapunzel dropping on them.
Once the prince is blinded he stumbles around going pretty much no where until he stumbles into a cave that has Rapunzel in it. She cries over him and kisses his eye when she sees that he’s blind and his sight comes back. There’s also a pair of twins involved (a boy and a girl) but i’m not sure if Rapunzel gave birth to them before or after the prince found her.
I haven't read it in veryyy long, but I'm pretty sure after that, they somehow find each other in the desert, Rapunzel heals his eyes with tears I think? And she gave birth a little bit before they reunited.
Rapunzel was one of my favorite fairy talkes as a kid, long before Disney got to it. I remember in 1st grade we had to write a letter from one character to another and I chose Rapunzel and the witch. It was a letter of intent to sue the witch for false imprisonment, cutting her hair off, and stranding her in the desert without knowing what was going on.
@JonSolo here's an idea if you haven't done it already: Explore and anlyse the different early Rapunzel variants before the Brothers Grimm's version, like Giambattista Basile's, version of Rapunzel called "Petrosinella"
Again Brothers Grimm never wrote those Stories, they collected and edited them. But, they were amazing linguist and even made the first German dictionary🥰
When I was a child my mom used to tell me the fairy tales of cinderella, snow white and beauty and the beast. This is why I always wanted to know the story of rupanzel. A few years later I found the tale in a book of my school's library. However it was the Grimm Brother's one and was very disappointed with it.
The ending to the second story is that Rapunzel has twins, and after years of blindly wandering, the prince finds Rapunzel again and her tears restore his vision. They live happily ever after :D
Fate was a bit better for the Prince in the Fractured Fairy Tales version. He also wandered blind in the forest for months, only to learn the fall from the tower had just smooshed his hatband down over his eyes, and once lifted, he was fine.
The art starting with the witch about to cut Rapunzel's hair is from my childhood. You could get it at my elementary school which was years kindergarten to fourth grade. So when I saw the trailer for Tangled, I was like: "What is this garbage?! That's not Rapunzel at all! Do better and release that one!"
The first version of Rapunzel that I heard when I was a little girl was kind of like this. So, the Queen was very sick when pregnant with Rapunzel, so the King went to the witch and asked for a rapunzel (a type of lettuce/cabbage). When he got it, he fed the Queen some rapunzel piece by piece, but the Queen wasn't getting healthier. Soon, the Queen gave birth and even though the King was thrilled, that happiness soon dissapeared. The Queen died almost instantly, so the King was left alone with his daughter. He decided to name her Rapunzel, after the vegetable that the Queen ate while being pregnant. The something happens I don't know what and the King dies. I think it was a curse from the witch. And then Rapunzel got tooken away. Years pass and Rapunzel grows up to be a beautiful young lady with a beautiful voice. The Prince was wandering around the forest on hus horse when he heard the witch say "Rapunzel, Rapunzel let down your hair" he had an idea. When the witch was away from the tower, he went ther and said "Rapunzel, Rapunzel let down your hair" in a femimine voice. Rapunzel fell for the trick and let the Prince climb up. When he got to the top Rapunzel was shocked and scared. The Prince promised he won't cause any harm, so Rapunzel relaxed. After a few days of seeing each other, the witch found out about Rapunzel's little guest and cut off her hair, and sent her to a desert. When the Prince came later that day, the witch used Rapunzel's hair that she cut off to get the Prince up. When he got to the top of the tower, he realized that Rapunzel was gone, and the witch did something to her. The witch cursed the Prince with loss if eyesight, so he became blind. He then arrived to the same desert as Rapunzel and heard her singing. The singing led him to Rapunzel, and as she had her eyesight, she kissed the Prince. After a moment the Prince got his eyesight back and yeah. Please correct me if there are any mistakes, I wrote this from memory and the last time I heard this I was 5
The last few pictures are from the book that I’d frequently check out of my elementary school library. A rather brutal story, yes, but I loved the beautiful illustrations and the happy ending of the Prince finding Rapunzel and their children and regaining his sight with her tears. I wonder what the librarian thought though lol
I had a book when I was a kid that told the original stories of old faerie tales. In the original version of Cinderella the sisters hack off parts of their feet and the only reason the prince notices is because a white dove pecks at his hair making him look down. And in the German version Aschenputtel she has to pick lentils out of ashes of a fire place but calls birds to do them for her telling them that they can eat the no good ones.
That story including many others are German so am I. I will give you some of our stories that we heard as kids. "Suppenkasper" A boy that doesn't want to eat his soup so he starves to death. "Zappelphilipp" A boy who is playing at the dinner table so he falls from His chair and dies. "Max und Moritz" Two boys that do stupid sh*t until they go to a bakery fall into some dough get baked get fed to geese and die.
If I’m remembering correctly, he was pushed out and the thorns blinded him. Rapunzel pushes the witch out and she dies from the fall, and Rapunzel escapes. But by the time she escapes the prince had wandered off or something. There was a time skip and she has her kid and finds the Prince blind in the forest still and he recognizes her from her voice. It’s been a while since I’ve read it so I might be mixing something up. I also think Brothers Grimm went through a thorn phase since Sleeping Beauty had thorns in her story too😂
I read the second one in kindergarten. I got scared somehow by the prince being poked in the eye so I asked to the teacher if I could go to the bathroom
She literally had no idea she would get in trouble for that though? Or that she was trafficked (not kidnapped, traded for a handful of fresh greens from the witch's garden, which she was then named after). She just lived her while life in a tower following the instructions she was given "Don't let anyone up unless they say the password" which the Prince did, from spying on them. The witch never told her about boys or anything else bad and Rapunzel assumed she was her mother because who else would she be? And the version I read, the witch told the prince Rapunzel was dead while he was still trying to climb up, then she just dropped him to his potential death (but instead actually maiming). If only he'd been as smart as the witch and just cut Rapunzel's hair to climb down together instead of bringing her a bunch of yarn to weave into rope for them 🫤
I had a Witch Storybook that included the thorns in the eyes version. There was even a very graphic illustration of the boy in question, holding his hands over his profusely bleeding eye sockets. Good times! Hahaha
After that the prince had his sword which he uses as a stick to get to his horse the, witch don't knew he is still alive he ride his horse and get in a forest he ate whatever fruit he touched after going on and on he comes into a desert 🏜 where rapunzel finds him and cry's the prince hears and recognise her she cried as the prince fell into her lap her tears fell in his eyes and he was able to see again. The end!!
There's a moral here, next time you accuse someone of being stupid, naive, or having a low IQ, ask yourself, has the person missed developmental milestones which have contributed to their situation. It takes a lot of self-development, tenaciousness and therapy to overcome the deprivation of the past, and if you're one of the lucky ones who don't know what this is like, then be grateful for the advantage you have had in life, many of you don't realise how rich you are to have had a past where your developmental milestones where reached and your basic needs met.
Btw (because there seems to be some confusion in the comments) the Grimm Brothers didn’t though of these stories themselves, they just collected and edited them.
My school literally taught us the original one instead of the less disturbing one, we were in 1st grade and did not even realize it was disturbing lol.
I have whole book with original fairy tales without any unnecessary beautification and I have read it whole at age of 8, scary and wonderful same time! I like when villains got what they deserve! I especially remember original Cinderella
The Prince isn't much better, he gets Rapunzel to slowly weave a rope ladder instead of just getting someone in his kingdom to do it much faster.
Did you forget the part he was wanted Flynn was a idiot
@@pierrebuieii3908 They’re talking about the original story, not the Disney version
@@pierrebuieii3908 in original story, he is prince 😊
Aaand how is rapunzel supposed to get the rope if the entire rope is at the bottom?
@@jam2727 the prince was visiting her on the daily. He could have brought it to her when it was finished.
I mean, the stomach thing makes sense. Assuming the witch doesn’t explain what sex or pregnancy is, Rapunzel probably thinks she’s getting sick or something else is happening.
Wait but people need to do sex in order to get pregnant naturally Tho-does that mean the prince raped her!?
Yes. In the original version, the prince feels no urgency to rescue Rapunzel quickly. He visits her and they are doing their thing for a while before Rapunzel starts to notice the changes in her body, but doesn't connect them to her s*xy time with the prince.
@@ladyv5655Damn
Oml the prince is a scum 😅
Then Yes, shes dumb
i knew the second version , but i read that the prince went blind and regained his vision when one of rapunzels teardrops hit his eye .
So the prince just went to Rapunzel’s tower to clap her cheeks and never made plan to move her to a better place? 😂😂😂
I think the Brothers Grimm edition had him bring a little bit of silk for her to weave into a ladder during each of his visits…doesn’t explain why he doesn’t just have someone make it for him faster.
@@janeyrevanescence12 that sounds even more hilarious 😂
@@janeyrevanescence12You guys must have exceptional throwing arms
@jam2727 You don't need to throw the silk latter up. You either have Rapunzel pull you up with the silk, or you tie it to her hair and have her pull it up and secure it when she gets it up there.
@@jam2727 simple knowledge about how suspension bridge construction is started will blow you mind 😅
I don't think the Grimm brothers created this story. They were problably the first to write it down.
Nah they did
It was originally a Persian epic. with romantic connotations, only Europeans would take something about love and romance and tragedy and make it Grimm. Literally.@@Gnesiarr
@@Gnesiarr Hi, fun fact, the Grim Brothers traveled around villages over the world, like in Germany and Sweden, they asked the locals about their folklore, local fairytales and wrote them down. So no they did not in fact come up with this story on their own, hents there being a couple different endings to alot of the tales.
@@Gnesiarr “In 1808, their friend, the romantic poet Clemens Brentano, asked them to collect all types of folk tales so he could use them in a book of literary fairy tales. In 1810, they sent him fifty-four texts, which they fortunately copied.” Google says
@@Bruisedmykneesagain im so glad somebodys talking about this! the brothers had collected popular folktales and fairy tales from different towns partially due to the big influence of nationalist movements and romanticism regarding nationalism at the time
they preserved their culture wonderfully, as most of these were shared orally so nobody really bothered actually writing them down anywhere
so it honestly just makes me upset to see so many people calling it weird or creepy because it’s history in it’s own right
it gives us an insight into storytelling from back then and it’s just interesting to know about
times keep changing and whatever we’re doing now may be considered weird or stupid in the future so i don’t get it really
The Brothers Grimm were always really fond of having people losing their sight by violent means.
The Brothers Grimm collected folk stories from uneducated poor folk who lived in rough difficult circumstances. The stories were often violent because life was like that in those days. The Grimm brothers were not advising people to copy the morals in the stories. They were just collecting the culture of the poorest people in Europe at that time before it was lost.
The Grimm brothers also collected examples of the use of language as they roamed about. They were early linguists.
Also mean that those people don't have eyes to see the world out of love, love make people blind
Yes we can't forget the crows and the evil stepsisters eyes
That makes sense considering that the story is kind of an allegory for children sheltered by over protective parents. When they’re isolated from the public, and actively have information/education hidden from them, they aren’t given the chance to think critically or become well educated.
Overprotective? The witch killed her lol
@@AmandaMerkelshe doesn't die. She runs into the prince in the desert and heals his eyes with her tears.
Honestly, I found Rapunzel to be the most relatable of the Disney princesses for this exact reason.
@@AmandaMerkeloverprotective when rapunzel was useful to her
@@AmandaMerkeloverprotective the way a lot of extremely religious parents are. They shelter their children from everything they deem “from the devil” and “secular” and withhold a lot of common knowledge, but kick them out as soon as they do something that’s a direct result of that shelter, e.g. getting pregnant as a teen because you don’t know how pregnancy works or their child just growing a sense of self and rejecting the parents’ teachings, because now the child has “become tainted”
I have the complete Grimm's Brothers Fairy Tales and just read Rapunzel! The Prince finds her in the desert with their baby, her tears heal his eyes and they return to his kingdom to live happily ever after. One of the nicer endings of the tales 🎉🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
is there a physical book? or how do you read it?
@@moth2109. Yes it is a physical book I bought at a hook store. If you just want the one story, UA-cam has some read aloud or you can google and find online 😊
Into the Woods 😂
@@moth2109.There is a physical book...Grimm's Complete Fairy Tales and Rapunzel is one of the stories
@@moth2109.There is a physical book. Grimm's Complete Fairy Tales
Interestingly in the Barbie Rapunzel movie, she's actually quite smart. She knows not to spill any beans, and actually says to the prince not to tell her his name so she can't lie to Gothel (she doesn't even know he's the prince). This actually ends up protecting him while she sacrifices herself. It's my fav interpretation of the story ❤
Honestly, the Barbie version is one of my favorite rapunzel versions. The other favorite version is Giambattista Basile's version of Rapunzel called "Petrosinella", an early variant before the Brothers Grimm's version.
Thats because woke disney wanted girl boss characters so they granted her intelligence
@@kaimengquek1952 🙄It's NOT "woke". Woke started in the 2020s. Tangled was from 2010, WAY before the woke agenda was formed.
But Disney's not gonna be woke anymore. I'm going to change all that once I get to work at Disney.
barbie as Rapunzel ain't disney 😅 Its Mattel who produced it
That's the only Barbie movie I've seen and was surprised I liked it.
I am a mighty dragon!
"She was raised in complete isolation and cared for by an insane old woman."
Me - You practically described how Quasimodo was raised.
Exactly
I bet they’d be great friends
Yep that was how Quasimodo was raised as well. Frollo chased an innocent gypsy woman that was Quasi’s mom, ending to her death when she tripped and Frollo took him in and raised him convinced by the priest. Quasi was pretty much one of the very few characters in the Disney franchise who has lost their mom. There was also some of the Disney princesses, Bambi and Tod from the 42 and 81 films.
Served the prince right. He should have had his people rescue her, instead, he keeps her there in secret as long as he can to have sex with her and get her pregnant. He could’ve immediately had his kingdom make the rope or something to get her down, rescue her, hunt down her kidnapper, jail the kidnapper, and marry Repunzel before touching her like that. The fall should’ve killed him for that. Clearly she would’ve been like a child not knowing anything about sex or pregnancy, and her mind would have been a little warped from being in that tower for so long without any formal education or real love. The prince was disgusting.
You people seem to be forgetting about the WITCH? She, unlike Rapunzel, went about in society putting curses on people. If the Prince told people to build a tower-scaling device, someone would have caught on and gossip would have spread and someone in the witch's power would have told her in return for lifting a curse or something. It was common sense to keep it secret.
And no matter how old you are, you can't know about pregnancy if you've never been told about the science behind it. That was also on the witch. In those days your guardian was expected to teach you about 'the birds and the bees'; the Prince would have assumed she knew especially since she was so eager to get it on. He wouldn't have realized it was just sex instinct guiding her; he would have been raised in society where girls were taught to deny men sex unless they wanted to marry them. He would have believed Rapunzel was educated the same way and her eagerness was basically a proposal. You have to take people's circumstances into account before judging them based off your own very different ones.
IKR??? I think all of Grimm brother's prince/kings are scary men (a holes to be exact) who take advantage of the women. Think this and sleeping beauty.. these are traumatizing stories!
Yup.. I never liked this story
1. They intended to get married. The prince proposed.
2. It was Rapunzel's plan. Her captor is a witch. And the rest is just a narrative pothole which is common for a fairytale.
3. The prince did find her after wandering blindly for days, recognizing her voice. She cried on him and his eyes healed. He took her and their twin babies to the kingdom and made good on his proposal.
Outrage out of ignorance should not be popularized.
1. They weren’t married though. 2. He had an entire kingdom at his disposal. 3. He still kept her a secret. He is still trash. No outrage, just a bad message to young people who’d glamorize this sick story and think it’s love. Bottom line is he knew better. Her plan was not a good one and being a prince that was not raised in captivity and ignorant, he should’ve advised better and got her out. The only ignorance is thinking there’s any outrage over fictional characters and that this story is anything but a tale of manipulation and abuse disguised as a “love story.” She should’ve left him blind. Scrolling is free my friend but you clearly felt very pressed for nothing. Argue with yourself now, I have a life.
The.grimm brothers where phyco. There original stories are worst than steven king
I’m laughing at it because its true 😭
the grimm brothers collected fairytales from different places and compiled them into a book, they didn't make them
most of what's written were popular folktales or stories from different towns that were often orally shared :)
But Rapunzel's tear turned out magical and healed the prince. And Rapunzel represented boy and girl twins to the prince. We don't know what happened after that.
If I am not wrong, in one ending they went back to the kingdom and had a happy ever after.
They reunite and live happily ever after
In “into the woods” (broadway version not movie) her and her twins get crushed by a giant
@@lavanyasingh5863 there was also a bad ending version when they went back to the kingdom. ah yes.. fairytales.
@@FairyLotusUnicornWait i don’t know that version 😭 whats the bad thing that happens?
“It’s probably not smart to call your kidnapper fat” well half of them are 😅
What, what is that statistic
You were kidnapping so many times and thats how you know half of them are fat? Okay, that sounds sad. Hope youre doing alright
You left out the part where the two wander aimlessly for 10 years before reuniting and Rapunzel cures the prince with a magical teardrop and they live happily ever after with their twins.
That 2nd version is in Disney's Into the Woods movie
Which is based off of the stage musical. If you liked that movie, you HAVE TO watch the filmed Original Broadway Cast pwrformance availiable here on UA-cam. Trust me when I say that it is everything the movie is, but 100× better. Just don't EVER look at the comments. You don't know the full story.
The stage play is definitely 100× better than the movie but I liked the movie too
You missed a version where the witch climbs her hair, but midway through repuzel cuts her own hair and the witch is the one to fall and die on thorns. I think repunzel even conspires with the prince in that one and I’m not sure how she got down after 😅
Used a arrow to send the braid back up to her
Not stupidity, she’s actually pretty smart for her situation, I feel like naïvety is a better word to describe her
Agreed. If you've been denied science and sex education and social conditioning, you're not going to know your 'guardian' is going to mind being asked why they're heavier than your boyfriend, or mind not being told you HAD a boyfriend! It's a bit exploring the difference between the state of nature and societal norms.
I read the second version...... I read it a lot as a kid for some reason. Smh
Yeah, the first time I read that original version, I chuckled because of how dumb that was.
Bruh you call this dumb? Go read the original Cinderella (Aschenputtel)... All i say is "Rucke di gu, rucke di gu, Blut ist im Schuh.." 💀
Easy to say when you've had access to public education. The witch is a monster who tries to keep Rapunzel ignorant and easy to control. She knows nothing of science and neither would you if you were raised like that. She doesn't know it's socially unacceptable to mention people's weight because she's never LIVED in society. She hasn't learned physics and doesn't know why one person weighs more than another, so she asks because she actually wants to LEARN. And she hasn't had sex ed; she's following natural biological instinct and has no way of knowing the witch will object to her having sexual relations or getting pregnant.
She's not dumb. She's an example of the horrors of being denied basic education by controlling tyrants.
Yeah uhh... thats not quite how i remember it lol
I read that grim version when i was a child-
I remember I had a small childrens book with cartoonish drawings that told the original story and I found it brutal, but didn't think much of it. Now looking back it seems so crazy, but I guess that's what growing up in the 90ies was like.
Kids are now growing up with video games about children's corpses stuffed into animatronics and horrible experiments performed on kids to make them into life-sized toys..... But yeah the '90s was the only time period that had anything spooky for kids....
I'm a '90s kid by the way. Y'all make me really ashamed to be part of the same generation.
That's how it's growing up being a German.
But I learned that not everyone reads scary fairy tales.
I was disappointed when I wanted to buy a book for my eldest... And they cut all the cool stuff out...
😢
@@shadowsoulless6227 I'm not a 90's kid, but why is it always them acting like the same things didn't happen in other generations 💀
I feel bad for the ones like you
I mean, the Grimm's versions of stories aren't usually the first version. They're usually the most well-known and the first version brought to widespread print
If the original story was the finished product, it wouldn't be family friendly and it would be incredibly short.
She didnt say the witch was fat she said she weighs more than the prince. maybe the prince is just really skinny lol
Still basically calling her fat. Men are typically taller than women and have a higher muscle mass than women, especially old women. Muscle weighs more than fat. So if women weigh more, they’re more likely to have a lot more fat.
@@tiggerpup_nzRapumzel has been deprived of education. How is she supposed to know that?
I had a book version that contains some of this art so I’ll retell the story how it happened in that book. Rapunzels father steals from Mother Gothels garden and she catches him, so he promises to give her his child. She takes rapunzel after she’s been born and keeps her in the tower. The prince sees her in the tower and climbs up to her, and after that rapunzel complains about her dress being tight. She is sent out to the wilderness to die, and the prince does fall off the tower, but they both don’t die and end up reuniting, and they have twins after that.
She is far from stupid. She has been locked up in the tower with little to no outside interaction except for the witch all throughout her formative years. She wasn't aware of anything beyond her little tower.
Grew up reading the original story. I was a dork and loved to read
Congratulations
Samee
If it makes anyone feel better, I'm pretty sure the prince ended up wandering so far because he was so confused with his lack of eyesight that he still had his hearing and he heard Rapunzel singing, so they still found each other again❤
I dont blame her for saying about the prince. The old woman put her in the tower to keep her isolated, but didn't tell her that, so when she met someone, she didn't know it was a problem. Also, his eyes weren't poked out, they were pierced by the thorns. Similar result, but his eyes were still there to be healed years later
To be fair I think that second version of the story is a pretty important lesson that some people forget modern-day;
It's important to remember to hold your tongue when you're around the wrong people,
Or just in case you might be.
Because you just might end up making a situation worse for yourself.
This is a lesson that not everyone knows right off the bat, and some people take many years to learn it fully, so I don't think it's entirely fair to call her stupid.
Agreed. Rapunzel is also completely deprived of education and social conditioning - how on earth can she be expected to understand the physics of why one person is heavier or why calling someone heavy is an insult? She was actually demonstrating a curious intelligence and desire to learn; she had no way of knowing the witch would object to her having a friend or asking scientific questions! The witch is the abnormal one here!
The Bros. Grimm did NOT write any fairy tales.
They merely wrote down the tales they heard from the orally preserved Old German language they uncovered when they were studying it.
Ya he pretty much explains that in all his full videos. He just says that since everyone already knows about the grim brothers
They also changed them to fit better their society
Yeah, Disney really improved Rapunzel's story and character a lot!
Ya got that right!
The Grimm brothers were really living up to their name !
Moral of the story:
Be very neat with your contraceptives!!!
I remember watching a live action version of this taped on VHS, along with Rumplestiltskin with the same actors, and she didn't tell the witch about the prince but she did catch them. The prince was blinded and Rapunzel was banished to the desert with newborn twins. It took years but the blind prince walked through the desert and found them and they lived there happily (?) ever after. It traumatized me 😂 I also had the Barbie version and I was so freaked out to see what the witch did to them. I was at the age where I thought the live action characters on TV were real
She's not really stupid, just naive.
Uh.....
I vividly remember watching that story
When I was like idk 6😅
But the prince surprisingly manage to find Rapunzel in the desert and lived happily ever after.
(But I remember it said the prince got blind not poke the eyes out)
When I read the original story, I wondered why the prince didn’t just bring a squadron of knights with him to rescue rapunzel.
The witch still has more power. The only way to escape her would be to keep it very secret. The Prince and Rapunzel would never have heard of Stockholm Syndrome, so it would not have occurred to him to warn her not to tell the dreaded witch. But Rapunzel doesn't know she SHOULD dread her and gives the game away. It wasn't either of their fault the witch was so evil and controlling.
I believe they both feared the witch's power. She was indeed scary. So going smoothly in secret was probably what they thought would be the best. Also, the Prince stayed true to her. In my book he calls her his wife when he's wondering blind looking for her. I don't think it's that creepy. Rapunzel fell for the prince's beauty and probably experienced pleasure with him for the first time. We all know how teen lovers are. Full of hormones.
The last part of the second story is in the musical Into The Woods. It’s a happy ending for Rapunzel and the Prince, as he finds her (tho he’s still blind) in the desert and her tears heal his eyes and makes him able to see again. They run away together after confronting the Witch.
One time I saw my mom trying to cut my little sister hair as a punishment and I said itch what do ou thing you mother gothel..and took my sister and her hair is her pride she loves it so much and it's so long..
I'm sorry. How is your sister now?
Cutting hair without permission is horrible. Generally it's illegal, but if it's a mother doing that to her child there's not much to be done
Actually this is the version I read while growing up when we didn't have the tangle movie.... He became blind and when he was wondering since he didn't know where he was going he had a familiar voice singing and that was Rapunzel who was cast to die in the desert and she helped him cure his eyes and later depart to go to the palace not exactly the tangle type which is much different.... The original one Rapunzel is not a princess bt a child from a poor bar ground and she became a princess after marrying to the prince
I have the original book even today
Rapunzel when R rated 😂
Hhmmmm, I could just call my minions to take Rapunzel away from the darn tower and bring her to my castle...nah (shaking his head)!
- Prince.
"Can't risk her running away with her newfound freedom."
The witch would have found out. It seems no one realizes what a powerful tyrant she was? I mean, she can just force a couple to give up their baby over spinach!
The Prince, unlike Rapunzel, lives in society. He knows what the witch is and that they have to keep it secret. He's also probably trying to convince Rapunzel to leave - she's been raised by the witch and probably doesn't believe she's evil at first. He can't just take her away and have the witch come after her. He needed to take time to make a plan. I'm pretty sure it was all set for the next day in the original story - Rapunzel asking the witch was probably meant to demonstrate trauma bonding; she's just not ready to accept the woman who raised her would punish her for falling in love!
Continueing the story, Rapunzel and the prince manage to find each other and upon realising that he's blind, she cried, the prince's eyes got healed from the tears of Rapunzel dropping on them.
Once the prince is blinded he stumbles around going pretty much no where until he stumbles into a cave that has Rapunzel in it. She cries over him and kisses his eye when she sees that he’s blind and his sight comes back. There’s also a pair of twins involved (a boy and a girl) but i’m not sure if Rapunzel gave birth to them before or after the prince found her.
Rapunzel is literally my favorite princess.😢😢😢
Props for keeping the Wilhelm scream alive😸
I haven't read it in veryyy long, but I'm pretty sure after that, they somehow find each other in the desert, Rapunzel heals his eyes with tears I think? And she gave birth a little bit before they reunited.
As an German, the second version is with what I grew up with
What I never read that one where she was pregnant my childhood ruined in a good way I love your videos 😊
Why were the Grimm brothers so obsessed with gouging out eyes 😂
Blindness could be a death sentence back in the day. Blind beggars were a special horror to a lot of people.
I used to listen to Grimm's fairytales audiobooks, and I remember this one well 😅
Rapunzel was one of my favorite fairy talkes as a kid, long before Disney got to it. I remember in 1st grade we had to write a letter from one character to another and I chose Rapunzel and the witch. It was a letter of intent to sue the witch for false imprisonment, cutting her hair off, and stranding her in the desert without knowing what was going on.
“To call your kidnapper fat” 😂
@JonSolo here's an idea if you haven't done it already: Explore and anlyse the different early Rapunzel variants before the Brothers Grimm's version, like Giambattista Basile's, version of Rapunzel called "Petrosinella"
Ooooo thanks!
I know the version of her comparing the witch to the prince😂
Again Brothers Grimm never wrote those Stories, they collected and edited them. But, they were amazing linguist and even made the first German dictionary🥰
When I was a child my mom used to tell me the fairy tales of cinderella, snow white and beauty and the beast. This is why I always wanted to know the story of rupanzel. A few years later I found the tale in a book of my school's library. However it was the Grimm Brother's one and was very disappointed with it.
The ending to the second story is that Rapunzel has twins, and after years of blindly wandering, the prince finds Rapunzel again and her tears restore his vision. They live happily ever after :D
I grew up with the original story 😭
Well it's a brother's Grimm work. So the gore is expected
Fate was a bit better for the Prince in the Fractured Fairy Tales version. He also wandered blind in the forest for months, only to learn the fall from the tower had just smooshed his hatband down over his eyes, and once lifted, he was fine.
Yesss, when i was a child i loved that version 😭
I was always partial to the original it's one of the few original Grimm tales that has a happy ending
The art starting with the witch about to cut Rapunzel's hair is from my childhood. You could get it at my elementary school which was years kindergarten to fourth grade. So when I saw the trailer for Tangled, I was like: "What is this garbage?! That's not Rapunzel at all! Do better and release that one!"
The first version of Rapunzel that I heard when I was a little girl was kind of like this. So, the Queen was very sick when pregnant with Rapunzel, so the King went to the witch and asked for a rapunzel (a type of lettuce/cabbage). When he got it, he fed the Queen some rapunzel piece by piece, but the Queen wasn't getting healthier. Soon, the Queen gave birth and even though the King was thrilled, that happiness soon dissapeared. The Queen died almost instantly, so the King was left alone with his daughter. He decided to name her Rapunzel, after the vegetable that the Queen ate while being pregnant. The something happens I don't know what and the King dies. I think it was a curse from the witch. And then Rapunzel got tooken away.
Years pass and Rapunzel grows up to be a beautiful young lady with a beautiful voice. The Prince was wandering around the forest on hus horse when he heard the witch say "Rapunzel, Rapunzel let down your hair" he had an idea. When the witch was away from the tower, he went ther and said "Rapunzel, Rapunzel let down your hair" in a femimine voice. Rapunzel fell for the trick and let the Prince climb up. When he got to the top Rapunzel was shocked and scared. The Prince promised he won't cause any harm, so Rapunzel relaxed.
After a few days of seeing each other, the witch found out about Rapunzel's little guest and cut off her hair, and sent her to a desert. When the Prince came later that day, the witch used Rapunzel's hair that she cut off to get the Prince up. When he got to the top of the tower, he realized that Rapunzel was gone, and the witch did something to her. The witch cursed the Prince with loss if eyesight, so he became blind. He then arrived to the same desert as Rapunzel and heard her singing. The singing led him to Rapunzel, and as she had her eyesight, she kissed the Prince. After a moment the Prince got his eyesight back and yeah.
Please correct me if there are any mistakes, I wrote this from memory and the last time I heard this I was 5
The last few pictures are from the book that I’d frequently check out of my elementary school library. A rather brutal story, yes, but I loved the beautiful illustrations and the happy ending of the Prince finding Rapunzel and their children and regaining his sight with her tears. I wonder what the librarian thought though lol
yeahhhh i remember the thorn version. the disney one is so much more kid friendly😭
I love that you included the Welheim Scream just at the very end if the short clip it kept me laughing
I had a book when I was a kid that told the original stories of old faerie tales. In the original version of Cinderella the sisters hack off parts of their feet and the only reason the prince notices is because a white dove pecks at his hair making him look down. And in the German version Aschenputtel she has to pick lentils out of ashes of a fire place but calls birds to do them for her telling them that they can eat the no good ones.
Meanwhile you give all your private information to a NSA controlled corporation.
The story where he loses his eyes is actually very grim indeed, they mock it in Into The Woods the play version
Imagine growing up with these stories! Oh wait, I det have to imagine, I'm northern European 😂
I’m in the US and we had the grimm book on a shelf till I moved out
That story including many others are German so am I.
I will give you some of our stories that we heard as kids.
"Suppenkasper"
A boy that doesn't want to eat his soup so he starves to death.
"Zappelphilipp"
A boy who is playing at the dinner table so he falls from His chair and dies.
"Max und Moritz"
Two boys that do stupid sh*t until they go to a bakery fall into some dough get baked get fed to geese and die.
@@Bundesadler8032 german storys?
I’m half German and never heard of those but cool beans 🫘
@@nightwolfnordberg9476 yes
If I’m remembering correctly, he was pushed out and the thorns blinded him. Rapunzel pushes the witch out and she dies from the fall, and Rapunzel escapes. But by the time she escapes the prince had wandered off or something. There was a time skip and she has her kid and finds the Prince blind in the forest still and he recognizes her from her voice. It’s been a while since I’ve read it so I might be mixing something up. I also think Brothers Grimm went through a thorn phase since Sleeping Beauty had thorns in her story too😂
I learned about this story in grafic detail when i was in middle school
Why do I remember growing up with the weird version
This was the Rapunzel story that I grew up with
Yeah, that's my original childhood Rapunzel
Not the Wilhelm scream 😂
I read the second one in kindergarten. I got scared somehow by the prince being poked in the eye so I asked to the teacher if I could go to the bathroom
Don’t do that to me, I love tangled 😭😅😅
She literally had no idea she would get in trouble for that though? Or that she was trafficked (not kidnapped, traded for a handful of fresh greens from the witch's garden, which she was then named after).
She just lived her while life in a tower following the instructions she was given "Don't let anyone up unless they say the password" which the Prince did, from spying on them.
The witch never told her about boys or anything else bad and Rapunzel assumed she was her mother because who else would she be? And the version I read, the witch told the prince Rapunzel was dead while he was still trying to climb up, then she just dropped him to his potential death (but instead actually maiming).
If only he'd been as smart as the witch and just cut Rapunzel's hair to climb down together instead of bringing her a bunch of yarn to weave into rope for them 🫤
Eugene would never😂
Also Rapunzel and the Prince meet and Rapunzel cries in his eyes restoring his eye sight
i know the second one, i grew up with it😭
The fact that she tells his that she beat up rapunzal and cut her hair, and he just jumps out the window. He’s just like,
“Yeet!”
I had a Witch Storybook that included the thorns in the eyes version. There was even a very graphic illustration of the boy in question, holding his hands over his profusely bleeding eye sockets. Good times! Hahaha
After that the prince had his sword which he uses as a stick to get to his horse the, witch don't knew he is still alive he ride his horse and get in a forest he ate whatever fruit he touched after going on and on he comes into a desert 🏜 where rapunzel finds him and cry's the prince hears and recognise her she cried as the prince fell into her lap her tears fell in his eyes and he was able to see again.
The end!!
There's a moral here, next time you accuse someone of being stupid, naive, or having a low IQ, ask yourself, has the person missed developmental milestones which have contributed to their situation.
It takes a lot of self-development, tenaciousness and therapy to overcome the deprivation of the past, and if you're one of the lucky ones who don't know what this is like, then be grateful for the advantage you have had in life, many of you don't realise how rich you are to have had a past where your developmental milestones where reached and your basic needs met.
I once read that the prince gone blind but in the end they both ended up marrying each other
Mother Gothal is classic narc PD.
Pre-marital $3x in a kids fairytale story😂
Btw (because there seems to be some confusion in the comments) the Grimm Brothers didn’t though of these stories themselves, they just collected and edited them.
I just realized that our teacher made us watch a kids story but the Rapunzel one is the same the second one
I heard this story as a kid. Neither being overweight or pregnancy was mentioned.
My school literally taught us the original one instead of the less disturbing one, we were in 1st grade and did not even realize it was disturbing lol.
The original is such a wonderful story.
But the prince searched the desert despite being blind and soon found her
Didn’t she reject him because he was blind?
I have whole book with original fairy tales without any unnecessary beautification and I have read it whole at age of 8, scary and wonderful same time! I like when villains got what they deserve! I especially remember original Cinderella