As much as Omar is the leader of the band, deciding what everyone plays, the Mars Volta have always been a band that use heavy amounts of improvisation, both live and on record. There were several opportunities for Jon Theodore to implant his style all over Omar's compositions, and to me it shows. Also playing is 50% what you're playing and 50% how you play it. So even two drummers playing the same beat can turn out drastically different results. I agree that Jon is the better of the two.
Listen to the start of the song "Textures" by Cynic. So similar to this except made like ten years earlier. By the way his new group Bosnian Rainbows is awesome, see em live.
I dont like to compare jon and Pridgen. They are two different drummers with different backround. Personally i like Jon more for the mars volta and thats because Jon played on "de-loused" wich for me is the most complete peace of art ever. I mean it has everything....And i think he is very tasteful with his drumparts. And his style of drumming was/is very personal. Pridgen tends to "craze" out to much. And thats wonderful in its own way.
@@slamjackson2137for some reason i didnt get that vibe of hell from this until i realized this song is supposed to go after take the veil when cerpin taxt dies as a bonus track in the japanese released of the album.
Jon Theodore is indeed GREAT. His greatness isn't in his amount of skill (of which he has plenty). His greatness is in his feel and his technique. The sound of his drumkit, and how he uses it. Pridgen is absolutely great in his own technically skilled, precise way... and he can prolly play anything Jon can play.... But it won't sound like Jon... It won't have that feel.
Well, not really. I'd say that probably 99% of the album content is written before by Omar. Also, I've heard an interview with him, where he said that they aren't really improvising during the shows - they just "try out" music - how does it sound and what should be on the next album. Check out Citatriz from Scabdates for example - there are some parts that you can hear in Cassandra Gemini, which was composed later, as a whole.
He isn't a "composer" in the same sense of Frank Zappa tho. Composing is more then just plonking counter melodies together, that's what most guitarists do when they write and guitar is their only instrument.
its a left hand facing you pointing to the left. Usually if someone is facing you and they put their hand out, it is pointing left. This means the hand is directly above the persons head. Subtle but weirdly noticable.
@Hemsom1rojder good point, thodore brings a good feels in the drums, and i missed his style but pridgen was very good too, they are just different, and both very original. D-loused album came out in a very good time,, i can just say that album was what i needed to listen in that moment,
i just listened this song on weed, dude, gosh... this is great, it's like prophesis, this talks about the 2012 thing, about the humandkind change, WOW... there is a face in the first finger...!! it's sacry and slow, it talks to you... it's says like "beware"... have a god night ;)
@jmmatos23 Thats exactly why the world isnt perfect, if everyone in the world agreed with me then there would be no conflict or unhappiness, we could all just worship a giant statue of jon theodore. I do sociology and politics in college i know what I'm talking about
@Hemsom1rojder our views on TMV are identical. i like you, sir. De-loused is indeed the first masterpiece to have been created in my lifetime. (The second is the film 'The Fountain' ;))
@pablobostero1280 not knowing nothing is a double negative. You basically just told him/her that they know everything about drumming. Didn't everyone take English in 1st grade???
LpCool19 tremulant, the album before this one has the beginning and ending sing the itsy bitsy spider backwards and I'm guessing that's what they did for this one too.
There was a time when a rock band tried to make non-rock music, and one scream was heard by all the world... the next comes in a residual noise...just echoes... ... what disappointment...Goliath...
@LordOfThePracticePad thats cuz you dont luv the mars volta.... its simple the mars volta was omar cedric jon juan adrian marcel and ikey thats it.... tmv died when jon was fired and tp joined the band... i hope deantoni understand omars brain and set the volta again cuz we really need it
Wow the drum solo isn't even that great; Thomas plays stuff like that in his sleep people. Love Mars Volta, but not a huge fan of Jon. Sorry guys, I know it makes me some kind of Nazi or something, but whatever....
Thomas Pridgen was real good at flashy, fast playing but Jon Theodore could play in the confinements of a song so much better. He was the better drummer.
@@Goctagon thomas was an interesting change for mars volta's sound they became more chaotic sounding but jon was the backbone of mars volta's earlier albums. Jon played to fit the ambience of the song and sometimes the drums became an ambient noise in sections of songs which is the opposite to thomas flashy style. jon had a deeper sense of the role he played in his drumming where as thomas just wanted to show off for the sake of sounding cool
I don't think Jon is "great", he wont go beyond spreading single stroke rolls all over the drum set without even using his feet. He has only impressed me a bit in their concert at he Electric Ballroom, with his performance of Cicatriz ESP. I think anyone could play like Jon.
I set the first 30 seconds of this song as my ringtone alarm clock
8)
injektileur have fun waking up in a panic attack.
@@goodapolloimburningstariv7539 Hell yeahh nice name and pfp
i havent listened to this song in forever ! it reminds me of good times i have had with my friends and drugs :)
The young seed of Noctourniquet... I guess
yep
Oh lord.. oh lord... you've made it...
Is this what a sleep paralysis demon's nightmare sounds like? Cos I like it!
this song brings back good memories...set me down a crazy path
Oh Lord, Oh lord you've made it....
vermin we need to loathe
誰？！どこ？！Who?!Where?! The ambulence! "no pain this time."
Still goes hard.
As much as Omar is the leader of the band, deciding what everyone plays, the Mars Volta have always been a band that use heavy amounts of improvisation, both live and on record. There were several opportunities for Jon Theodore to implant his style all over Omar's compositions, and to me it shows.
Also playing is 50% what you're playing and 50% how you play it. So even two drummers playing the same beat can turn out drastically different results.
I agree that Jon is the better of the two.
Listen to the start of the song "Textures" by Cynic. So similar to this except made like ten years earlier. By the way his new group Bosnian Rainbows is awesome, see em live.
Thought this immediately upon hearing
both mars volta and cynic have masterful bassists too.
I love both drummers, but DAMN. I gotta admit. That actually made me laugh my ass off. Good job.
I dont like to compare jon and Pridgen. They are two different drummers with different backround. Personally i like Jon more for the mars volta and thats because Jon played on "de-loused" wich for me is the most complete peace of art ever. I mean it has everything....And i think he is very tasteful with his drumparts. And his style of drumming was/is very personal. Pridgen tends to "craze" out to much. And thats wonderful in its own way.
This song scares me
I swear, this song makes me imagine how Hell looks like, especially the intro
I get that a lot with The Mars Volta in general, not quite sure how I feel about it honestly lol
When you enter hell after an overdose of some god awful substance
@@slamjackson2137for some reason i didnt get that vibe of hell from this until i realized this song is supposed to go after take the veil when cerpin taxt dies as a bonus track in the japanese released of the album.
Jon Theodore is indeed GREAT. His greatness isn't in his amount of skill (of which he has plenty). His greatness is in his feel and his technique. The sound of his drumkit, and how he uses it. Pridgen is absolutely great in his own technically skilled, precise way... and he can prolly play anything Jon can play.... But it won't sound like Jon... It won't have that feel.
Esta fue la primer canción que escuché de ellos, en preparatoria, fumando marihuana en las afueras del edificio. Aquellos tiempos fueron buenos...
You took the veil.
Well, not really. I'd say that probably 99% of the album content is written before by Omar.
Also, I've heard an interview with him, where he said that they aren't really improvising during the shows - they just "try out" music - how does it sound and what should be on the next album. Check out Citatriz from Scabdates for example - there are some parts that you can hear in Cassandra Gemini, which was composed later, as a whole.
He isn't a "composer" in the same sense of Frank Zappa tho. Composing is more then just plonking counter melodies together, that's what most guitarists do when they write and guitar is their only instrument.
nice. never heard this one till now.
strange feeling while listening
drummer is great !
Jon Theodore is supernaturial musician!
Omar sounds just like Robert Fripp on this.
I hear it.
Yes, it's true.
omar DEFINITELY took huge inspiration from fripp during the frances the mute era
esa guitarra suena en extremo desoladora!
This is just a De Facto song disguised as a Volta track!
Theodore is so much better. And the albums prove that.
the very best dude...from Mazatlán with love xD
its a left hand facing you pointing to the left. Usually if someone is facing you and they put their hand out, it is pointing left. This means the hand is directly above the persons head. Subtle but weirdly noticable.
Wtf are you talking about
revihs revihs!! awesome!!
Listen to At the Drive-in's "Autorelocator"... Cedric does the same Random Muttering at 3:36 in that song...
does anyone knows how to get this incredible snare sound ? I look for it since i bought the same snare but i need some help ! Thks, Fabrice.
If your here, you like MARS, then I tell you. Go to venius.
Pull my thread as i walk away.
sounds kinda like it was sung backwards then played forward, or theres just some crazy effects.
what album was this released on?
this is the bonus track on deloused in the comatorium
@Hemsom1rojder good point, thodore brings a good feels in the drums, and i missed his style but pridgen was very good too, they are just different, and both very original. D-loused album came out in a very good time,, i can just say that album was what i needed to listen in that moment,
i got a missing chromosome on Utorrent its the best place to find it
Seriously you have to listen to this smoked on! light a joint play TMV and listen carefully... honest.
i just listened this song on weed, dude, gosh... this is great, it's like prophesis, this talks about the 2012 thing, about the humandkind change, WOW... there is a face in the first finger...!! it's sacry and slow, it talks to you... it's says like "beware"... have a god night ;)
There both sick ass drummers. Jon has a very unique style and Thomas has a gospel feel to him but yet experimental.
its on UK one =]
I couldn’t think the name of this song. It had been stuck in my head for a minute. I’m glad I was able to find it. Brings back so many memories.
It was a radio only album for any one asking (Correct me if I'm wrong)
i maybe spent 30 seconds looking and it and i hate itunes for not having alot of mars volta
eunuch provocateur.
I haven't heard or seen anyone play the way Theodore played with TMV even if Omar is still telling everyone what to play. Weird.
@jmmatos23 Thats exactly why the world isnt perfect, if everyone in the world agreed with me then there would be no conflict or unhappiness, we could all just worship a giant statue of jon theodore. I do sociology and politics in college i know what I'm talking about
Amen lol
Master of all that is good and evil
haha. I wouldnt know, but i got myself one =D
i like much moooooreeeee...!!!!! john theorore is amazing.
that GSL DVD menu brought me here
@LpCool19 Listen to the whole album, Frances the Mute.
this reminds me of De Facto
dubby
hahahaha hell yeah!!!
@helloaphant holy shit i thought the exact same thing when i first heard it....
its very similar to Textures.
is this a bonus track on deloused?
Yes, it was. A bonus track on the japanese version :]
Does anyone know if Pridgen and TMV really separated.
lol wat kind weed is that?
@etmadness1 true that. I still think pridgen's got talent.
Makes me sad, brings memories
This song apparently represents Hell.
Do they play this live ever????
@Hemsom1rojder our views on TMV are identical. i like you, sir. De-loused is indeed the first masterpiece to have been created in my lifetime. (The second is the film 'The Fountain' ;))
Tool - Lateralus was produced just a couple of years prior, and whether you like it or not, it's an undisputed masterpiece
more than they'd like to let on
@pablobostero1280 not knowing nothing is a double negative. You basically just told him/her that they know everything about drumming. Didn't everyone take English in 1st grade???
...What is the whole song about? O.e...is he even singing? Seriously I can't understand what the guy is saying? Has a nice beat to it.
LpCool19 tremulant, the album before this one has the beginning and ending sing the itsy bitsy spider backwards and I'm guessing that's what they did for this one too.
Antonio Armendariz makes sense considering Tira Me A Las Arañas.
its very cryptic
Ooh! I likes it!
nah thats just what you say because you don't know how to play. and you think you do. Where is that video of you drumming btw?
if you look at the bottom of those fingers besides the index finger, they have a weird marking under them. they look like stitches.
I don't hear a drum solo in this song. Also, I guess nobody was ready for Deantoni :)
I can tell where you're coming from, but it's not that similar.
did you just learn how to play drums about a week ago?
@PearlJamm Cynic fucking rock btw!!!
hahahaha that's true
What's the cover from?
Even the way both songs "fade in"
very interesting and fresh
@RorySinn Yeah whatever, just don't interact with me stranger, please.
There was a time when a rock band tried to make non-rock music, and one scream was heard by all the world... the next comes in a residual noise...just echoes... ... what disappointment...Goliath...
isnt it just a mic very off center in front of the snare amp?
mijubo no it's actually an entire song full of instruments
@LordOfThePracticePad thats cuz you dont luv the mars volta.... its simple the mars volta was omar cedric jon juan adrian marcel and ikey thats it.... tmv died when jon was fired and tp joined the band... i hope deantoni understand omars brain and set the volta again cuz we really need it
this picture is inaccurate right?
I don't understand
Do you refer to the album cover or what?
jon theodores style is better than thomas pridgens. who cares whos technically better because theyre both great.
They should call this album down syndrom.
noeh thats an EXTRA cromosome:D
i get the joke. i laughed
Wow the drum solo isn't even that great; Thomas plays stuff like that in his sleep people. Love Mars Volta, but not a huge fan of Jon. Sorry guys, I know it makes me some kind of Nazi or something, but whatever....
drum solo aint shit from theodore. thomas pridgen is way better.
5 years ago you made a comment. That comment was incorrect.
Thomas Pridgen was real good at flashy, fast playing but Jon Theodore could play in the confinements of a song so much better. He was the better drummer.
@@Goctagon thomas was an interesting change for mars volta's sound
they became more chaotic sounding
but jon was the backbone of mars volta's earlier albums. Jon played to fit the ambience of the song and sometimes the drums became an ambient noise in sections of songs which is the opposite to thomas flashy style.
jon had a deeper sense of the role he played in his drumming where as thomas just wanted to show off for the sake of sounding cool
I don't think Jon is "great", he wont go beyond spreading single stroke rolls all over the drum set without even using his feet. He has only impressed me a bit in their concert at he Electric Ballroom, with his performance of Cicatriz ESP. I think anyone could play like Jon.
@Hemsom1rojder something about this comment makes me want us to be best friends forever