Nintendo Switch Online has BIG Issues and a BIGGER Price Tag
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Xbox game pass and xcloud need to teach Nintendo a lesson.
I hope the release of Steam Deck crashes Switch and make them realize the way they treat their customers is simply too greedy.
No not worth it for me personally.
I would buy it but am poor i have 3 years for the orher ones but the n64 is too expensive for me i might buy it later tho to play zelda games
Thank you for talking about how this is supposed to be an online service, not a game pass.
This is what I've been telling people for months now. I just want a good online service, not just old games. I'm happy to pay for old games separately or have them as a bonus, but the focus should really be the online aspect in the first place.
JUST GET THE OLD GAMES THATS BETTER THAN THE ONLINE
why cant they just add discord that ends everything
u could just speak through discord and everything
that ends voice chat and all the others
as for the online service why cant they can just cut out all the old games ,
add more features
and improve the quality
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@@jaxsterminator8634 i couldnt care less about the old games i just emulate everything on pc i trashed 2ds xl as soon as switch came out
If you're going to charge 50 bucks, it needs to be akin to like game pass. Actually, this is closer to PS Now, minus current gen games. Regardless, this is a rip off.
100% not many people seem to remember that online should be their main focus
1v1 me in Star Fox
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Stream it together or make a versus series in N64 games
Lol
I think I figured out why Nintendo dropped you. You are honest and Nintendo only wants to be praised by people they sponsor.
It’s a compliment. You are honest and willing to say if something sucks. While Nintendo may shy away from such a trait, I really appreciate it.
Keep up the excellent work and excellent videos.
Cheers.
They dropped him because he pirated Breath of the Wild and recorded it lol.
@@DudeMan-xs3db I can’t tell if you’re joking. If not, then I’m a bit shocked.
@@brichan1851 You don't think it's strange he was dropped by Nintendo immediately after uploading a video of him playing BotW on his PC with mods? I can't tell if you're joking. If not, then I'm a bit shocked.
@@DudeMan-xs3db I guess I just didn’t know he did that.
@@DudeMan-xs3db what was he even thinking right? Such a dumb way to lose an important ally
I'd like to see a basic 5€ service where you can just connect with friends globally. No cloud saving, no games, just....being able to visit friends in Animal Crossing (for example) without having to pay 20
You can't afford $20 for a year? L not even $2 each month...
@@phantomliger89 Well it's more that I wouldn't use it much. I don't have that many friends with switches, and I don't have much time to play. So maybe to use 4-5 times a year it seems expensive.
@@phantomliger89 ignorant
For me it is going to be a good value since I have the family plan and all three switches own a copy of Animal crossing. This way, instead of paying 25 for each person, I can just get the NSO expansion and even have a chance to see if I even want the ACNH happy home past this year. Plus I get to play N64 games I could not afford as a kid
That's a good point
Overall I think $40 would be a fairer price. That and the N64 games being flawless emulations instead of the current glitches.
I still remember the first time I played Ocarina of Time. I was 11 years old and my local gaming shop had a pre-release of the game that only contained the game up to the Deku tree. Oh the nostalgia...
Thanks for the genuine honesty, along with some awesome edits as usual - personally I can see it being worth it, only if you buy the family plan to split it with friends. Besides that Nintendo seems to be reaching when asking their loyal fans to give them $50 a year, only to play N64 games they probably owned on 3DS and Wii YEARS before.
Hopefully Nintendo will add more modern titles to actually give their subscribers their money's worth.
As someone who really only plays Animal Crossing, it sucks that we have to pay for internet access. The game is made much better because of that (having access to design codes, visiting other peoples’ islands, going to dream addresses, etc.)
I ended up getting a family account immediately, together with 2 of my sisters because it’s the better financial thing to do. Since then I’ve also added one of my friends and one of my sister’s friends. It helps with the cost, but it still feels… icky(?) to have to pay for it. There are so many people who aren’t able to get the full ACNH experience because they can’t afford paying even more. A switch and ACNH aren’t cheap.
That playful jab @10:00 lmao "because he loves...MARY-o"
The thing is, I've never played through OoT and MM, and there's a lot of interesting games right now that I would like to try out. Seriously, I can't really complain about it.... actually really excited. At the same time, if it's true according to the dataminig that there'll be a bunch of games and new systems in the future, I think it's worth it as a gamepass
But is also to be noted that if you get the expensier pass specially for the Animal Crossing DLC, if you can suddenly stop paying or you ain't abble to afford it you will lose access to the DLC
I still don't really get how the Genesis pricing theory justifies it. Even if that were the case, since they have tiered pricing already, they should have made it so we can pick and choose expansions. Let the actual Genesis fans pay the bloated price for Genesis if they want to and leave the rest of us out of it lol
I still ended up getting it. Hopefully after all the drama they'll fix it, and maybe add the ability to button map or something. I know its in a different section of the controller but I'd almost rather have the D-pad function as the yellow C arrow buttons
I thought it was worth it for me, but then I paid $50 and I got extremely disappointed. See, I watched some UA-camr showing the games for the Sega alone, and it was so many, so good titles. I was like, yeah, let's play those. But then I got it and I realized that (even though the price tag is EXACTLY the same) the library for Poland is like so poor, lacking so much content, I couldn't believe it. It's like 5 games in there and that's it. We're being robbed. And discriminated. I don't get it. So disappointing, man.
Can’t u check what games are available in ur country before u buy????
And couldn't one like remap the switch controller even if you can't change the maping on NSO,.you could still affect that.
So the added online games and expansion packages is all well. However the fact remains that a lot of people aren't interested in that. I for one only bought the online service because you have to have it to play with friends. Adding 30 bucks to it for things I don't want or need to then have the same lacking online service just doesn't make sense at all
In the uk it’s £34.99 but if you bought a year already it’s £25.11
I would’ve much rather had GameCube games instead of genesis
I was mad I couldn’t pay out on a monthly basis, but rather 12 months up front…
"The very average online service". I would have to disagree with that. Not being able to chat with your friends without using a phone app and not even being able to message them is what I would consider "very below average online service".
Okay so I’m super late to this but the main reason why I wanna get this is so I can play some of the old Zelda games since I didn’t understand them as a kid. But also I wanna play MarioKart and Super Mario Bros with my dad or mom, so ultimately I may just have to bite the bullet and pay for it for now.
As someone who grew up with playstation and never had a n64 I'm excited to finally get the chance to play these games, although I might wait to see if they fix the bugs and add some more games first.
Whyyy
I agree 100%, I have a Playstation and I couldn't be happier with their online service so it makes me so disappointed to see Nintendo fail at their's. Like I am not asking Nintendo to make their service as great but if you're gonna ask for just 10 dollars less of what I'm paying for ps+ at least make the online half as good.
A lot of these 64 games are at least 10$ on their own on like, the WiiU eshop if you still have that dinosaur. There's also the fact that if you want to pay for the physical cartridge from a retro gamestore to get the legitimate feeling of them, you're probably gonna pay at least 30$ for ocarina of time. On hardware that's 20 years old---and probably doom to fall apart sometime soon.
I think this price is fair. I mean if we look at xbox and playstations yearly online services, how much do they cost? like 60$ right?
also you're getting the animal crossing DLC, which my mom whose on my family plan loves to play so it's worth it for me. If only to let my mom get the DLC and me get some n64 games for 5$ more than either of us woulda had to pay for the animal crossing dlc
I think it would be one thing if it was a fee and then the games are just there but the fact is its expensive to rent the games per year and the collections are small to start with. Im sure they will add more. Idk the price jump is just… not great. I don’t even pay to do the online stuff for playstation and xbox. And playstation has a sweet set up with free games that you keep. Idk it really is dependent on if its worth it to the person. Dude here makes a lot of good points. Can we also please talk about how many issues people are having with the zelda port today too? That port of OOT is just… something else.
9:19 .. You .. you do realize you can turn the music off and on in Mario kart 64 right? There is even a audio cue for it.
0:33 "and you hear..." OI! DO YOUR HOMEWORK FIRST!
Hey wood! with the music for mario kart i believe it happens when you press the L button! I was in your stream last night and I believe we discovered that was the cause!
I don’t trust Nintendo with anything online. That are 15 years behind console competition.
I think the family plan is worth it if you have enough people. Especially if you have others that play animal crossing
I bought the new expansion because i had a huge i mean really huge discount on it. I HAD yes had a bit over 2 years accumulated on the regular NSO service but now it's back to 1 year. You pay with your excess time to get the discount. But well it was just €1,54 for me. If i hadn't that much accumulated NSO time i would've waited a lot longer for buying the new expansion for €39,99 I don't play Animal Crossing so the DLC what is in there is nothing for me. So it's just N64 and Genesis games. But Genesis is a new console to me so i can try out the games.
Sticking Animal crossing DLC into the expansion pack online service isn’t enticing to me. I don’t have Animal Crossing, so $50 + for N64 & Genesis emulation seems rather steep
Mario kart 64 always had the music dropt
I literally booted up Ocarina of Time on NSO just to hear that theme today 🤣
Nintendo saw that Gamepass for Xbox is working quite well. And Suckered everyone into by saying that you have the privilege to pay them to play older games but only the ones they decide that you have that privlage of. Nintendo was never going to fix anything that was obvious from the state online released in. Its just as Subscription cash grab so they constantly make money for people who who want to play the older games. Makes you wonder why Nintendo emulation is so popular.
Can you please do a switch game collection video?
Yeah I'll give it a year to add the rest of the N64 games.
I think they made the controls weird to get people to buy their N64 style controller.
If they had Wii games (specifically Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess) I would give them literally any money I had
Damn, thanks Wood, for giving me a memory that doesnt exist cuz I was too poor from another country to afford it, plus "video games" as a concept didnt exist til I immigrated :')
Sega dream cast games on the Eshop & GameCube games !! Please Nintendo, let’s get that backwards compatible catalog going ! #GameboyColor #GameboyAdvance #DS #3DS #Gamecube #Dreamcast
For me personally it’s not worth it if I didn’t have certain games that I like to play online I wouldn’t have it granted if you do happen to care about playing older games than that’s you I just happen to not what I will probably do is just keep paying the 13$ every year and get the dlc If I really want it
Not worth it for me, I initially just bought the online to play animal crossing with friends and now that I don’t play it anymore, my 2nd year of online has pretty much been wasted. I’ll keep paying the regular $20 for splatoon 3, but the N64 are not worth another $30 every year, I’ll happily buy the ACNL DLC and keep ir for ever than pay this yearly subscription.
Great video. Don’t know if it’s worth it yet. Hopefully there’s some 3rd party games coming because for that price I would’ve thought there would be more. Just sayin.
You should update the "Monster Harvest" video description at least to reflect that they fixed it, because someone might watch only that video and just not know.
it would be worth it if they added pokemon games to gameboy
They better improve this for real after seeing that tweet form ign
I’m still not paying for the expansion pass
When i saw the thumbnail i was like WHAT
I wouldn’t get it until online Mario party 2 or 3
I agree with everything you’ve said, I wish Nintendo had different like “tiers” to their pricing. I don’t really care for sega nor the animal crossing add on as I don’t own the game so having to pay more for something I’m not going to use is a tad off.
If you could just choose to purchase the N64 pack for a certain price then you can add on the DLC or sega for the full price
Agreed. The lack of options is astounding to me. They should just separate it more instead of making it all a vague value. I'd be more inclined to actually consider buying some parts of the expansion pack then, but as it is, it's not worth it for me at all.
If the Genesis licensing theory ends up being real, then I think they should've put GameBoy and GameBoy Color games and only have to worry about emulating them properly and figuring out link cable emulation.
Sounds absurd to me. Sega's not exactly known for making it hard to sell Genesis titles. If anything, throwing Genesis games when startled seems to be their only natural defense.
I was really hoping GB/GBC/GBA would all come. It honestly seems like an easy road to make subscribers happy.
@@PoetsReap At this point, I'm guessing the price would increase another $25 or so if they added GB/GBA games.
Link-cable emulation was already figured out with 3DS
The link cable emulation must be wireless local and online
The big big problem behind this "expansion pack" is that, with it's release, there is no hope for us that Nintendo will improve on the current online service. No messaging friends, or invite them directly to our games in anytime, no voice chat, not even dedicated servers for most of their games. They ignored all our requests and decided to sell us an underwhelming product at $50 instead.
Are there dedicated servers for *any* of their games?? I thought they were all p2p.
What? You can't messege friends? WHAT? Nintendo online is trash, then. How do you people communicate? I don't use nintendo products so my expectations are probably too high from them.
@@coolperson4283 We have to use a mediocre app.
@@staticshock4239 on a smartphone. Not even on the switch itself. Madness.
true but i like n64 game
Nintendo needs to start taking notes from Playstation and Xbox with their subscription services.
Party Chat, Game chat, Messaging, Achievements/Trophies, Etc. All of these features came standard with the other consoles. If Nintendo wants to start having AAA game releases alongside Playstation and Xbox, they need to step their game up. I honestly believe there are a lot of gamers who would make the Switch their Main Console if at least some of these features could be added to the Online Service.
Yeah the price was fine for just basic service. But now they charging more than Ps Now for emulator games they lost their mind. Adding stuff we didn't ask for like old Sega games when Sega already has those game in eshop in a collection. Seems like money grab. If you charge full service you should deliver full service.
Luckily it's optional but still leaves bad taste because they seemed to dramatically up the price over original but giving old games. The price just doesn't seem fair as it an ad on to the original service but it's over 2x more . They should really ads more benefits. It might get there but seems smarter to minimum let library grow, but hopefully get more benefits too. Also it's so old school because you only can play with real friends not random people that can become friends.
Party chat!!!!!!!!!!!!! We. Need. It.
Hate to be that guy and say this: but as long as the loyalists who keep saying "NiNtEnDo cAn'T dO No WrOnG!" keep paying for this stuff Nintendo will never listen to criticism. This is a company that has cultivated a huge fanbase that conists of some who believe the company is 100% right with all their decisions. Why do you think that in the five years of the Switch's existence they have done almost next to nothing with improving their online? Online connections are still terrible for games like Smash Bros Ultimate, Super Mario Maker 2, and even Splatoon 2? Why is it that we have to rely on third party chat apps to communicate with our friends when Nintendo has the resources to make it so easy implement? It's cause Nintendo knows that those in the fanbase who are loyalists will give them money even when offering the bare minimum.
@@e1iteyoshi998 I feel like the people who genuinely defend Nintendo doing things like this are definitely in the minority, the like ratio of the price announcement video on YT is absurdly low. The reason Nintendo gets away with it is simply because of the first party games and casual market.
The average Joe outside of the comparatively smaller online community isn't gonna be paying attention to what fan games Nintendo DMCAs, or what tournaments they shut down, or the poor lifespan of the analog sticks, or what online features are just blatantly missing/barely working, they only want to go buy the Mario Kart game for the Nintendo that they played at their friend's house or at a family event once. And if they can pay 20 bucks a year to play *with* that friend/family online, that's pretty cheap compared to the price of the console so yeah why not. Doesn't matter if half of what you'd consider standard for an online service is missing, it works and is comparatively cheaper so yeah most people who haven't already got an expectation for what the quality of one of these services is supposed to be like is just gonna buy into it and not think anything about it
It's the same reason FIFA games sell like hotcakes every year. It doesn't matter if it's predatory or lazily made, it technically works and there's no alternatives so people are just gonna buy it
@@ACheapLemon But it's EA. Everything they make is a gambling simulator. Even when being investigated by the government they'll continue to do these practices cause in their mind they know who they're appealing their games to.
If we are considering future DLC as part of the expansion pack, we have to consider how often nintendo actually makes paid DLC. . . which is not alot. . . like twice a year if we don't count smash bros, and even then, it's usually for offline games.
So in that regard, if you are a single-player user who doesn't buy the base online, that would be $50 for 2 DLC that would have normally averaged out combined at $45 dollars since their paid DLC is usually $19.99. Meaning you are getting ripped off if you are buying it for that year's DLC.
*MY FEAR:*
is that to justify the LACK of DLC per year is they might start making what would have been free DLC now cost money. An example. Lets say we get 1 new mario golf map every 2 months. Now, all of a sudden, we don't get any new maps for 5 months. On the 6th month, they make an announcement where they are selling a pack of 3 maps for $5 to $10. Now we are in a reality where the content we would have gotten for free are now costing us money simply because nintendo wants to make the expansion pack artificially look more valuable. "Artificial Value" being something nintendo is VERY good at manipulating.
Just something to think about.
I would still pay for the DLC over a recurring charge. I may not own the content physically but it would still be tied to my account. If I wanted to pay a subscription for DLC I would play WoW. That being said I 100% agree with you.
It looks like I was right about being ripped off. They are raising the price of all their DLCs moving forward to $19.99 from $29.99 to justify the expansion pack.
I would pay that price for GBA and Gamecube games. Plus a decent service. I don't think it's too much to ask, tbf
This actually makes sense. Why the heck the price this high for a non Nintendo service like Sega makes no sense. Nintendo just trying to make money off these as rereleases probably.
30 bucks would be worth it if they did add gba and gamecube days fot no additional cost.
You can emulate all those for free on PC
Lmao soo true and you keep the game. once you stop paying for the online service, you cant play the games anymore.
Honestly
Without sounding cheap, no. I just can’t afford it. I’m over 40 with a family and &60 is a lot of money to me. Physical games i trade the previous games Ive played in towards them. I adore Animal Crossing and the idea it could be removed, or that it’s not mine leaves me just wanting to buy the dlc instead. I love Ocarina and enjoyed it on its original release but I’m happy at the moment to wait.
The worst part is that there is no other choice other than to shell out for the whole year too... at least the regular online can even be payed for by month
Get yo bands up homie.
I made a family group on the Nintendo website, 8 people. A year for this cost us $109 Australian, so that was $14 each. Now all eight of us get everything on offer.
@@the-youtube-enjoyer you’d be surprised. On gamepass I buy occasional months depending on games. ‘Control’ took a few weeks to complete then I left gamepass until something else interested me. If n64 online was monthly and users completed Zelda, I think a lot would cancel or downgrade the month after.
Yeah. I don’t have a family yet but have a mortgage and many bills, really can’t afford it either when I procrastinate on many things, such as minor repairs around the house or my old 2007 car with 160,000 miles on it. Nintendo sorta forgets that most of us are normal people already paying for numerous services. I can’t use the “only X more dollars for a year” excuse anymore. The pandemic and inflation is also squeezing us. The pricing was very insensitive and a slap in the face quite frankly.
Something that always puts me off is Nintendo’s smugness in regards to their perceived value of their retro games. Your old games are really only worth what people are willing to pay, you can’t force the value up on your 20-30 year old games.
The regular $20 online also has that friends joining you on the emulators. A friend plays the SNES games with me and the connection is extremely smooth.
Exactly, you could literally have up to 3 other people watch you playthrough a game and have a good time together solving puzzles in link to the past or whatever. And then giving them control to take over if you want to pass it on.
Sakura think about all the times you hit Naruto he a god now
Yes daddy
whose sakura? kek
I think nintendo should have an option for those who don't want the live service part of the online subscription and just want to be able to play online with their friends. I think a huge part of the complaints is that you HAVE to pay for the online + games even when you don't want to.
Unpopular opinion: I think it would be great to separate the online subscription from the getting old games sub. I just want to play these games. Not necessarily with anyone because all of the people who I used to play these games with in the 90s don't freaking have a Switch. So I'd be perfectly content paying less for no online and games only. 🙃
YEESSSS
My issue is why can’t I do it month by month vs a whole year? I don’t want to spend $50 immediately and regret it. I really wanted to play Zelda 🤦🏾♂️
I recommend the 3ds version, you can pick it up for pretty cheap and it's arguable better than the original version due to cleaned up graphics and a slightly reworked water temple.
@@ssfbob456 that would require having a 3DS
how is 50$ a year for a bunch of classic games and more added over time a bad deal / edit since people are crying lol i watched the video, unless your a kid or broke it’s not a bad deal for a bunchhh of games. lol sorry
Why do you think McFly? 😆
@@SundayNightGames coddle Nintendo more. You even watch the video
I want to point out about the music issue in Mario Kart 64, that game has a feature that a lot of us completely forgot that it had that is causing that issue. One of the buttons is dedicated to music volume adjustment. Pressing it once will bring the music to 50% volume, pressing it again will turn music off completely, and then pressing it again will turn music back on at full blast. This threw me off too, because I ran into the same issue, but I found out it was because I was pressing that button. Once I was aware, it never happened again. I can tell that's what was happening to you guys too, because there's a little jingle that plays when you press the button to adjust the music, and I'm hearing that jingle every time your music goes in and out. So one of you was pressing that button.
... and which button is it now? :D
Edit: Google it, it's the L-Button. Btw, I remember this problem on the N64 and I always though that the music just turns off after some time and it seemed to me that this always happened on rainbow road. It's never too late to learn something new.
Thanks!
i could of sworn that this also occurred in the original mario kart 64, i remember at times racing in silence and only hearing the sound effects back then.
I always thought that the music was turned off when there where 4 people on multi-player because memory/frame rate issues lol
I see that easily happening with the joycons and pro controllers, but how on earth do you reach the L button during play with the original N64 controller?
@@UltimateTobi That's a good question. The only thing I can imagine is bumping the controller/the L-button against a object or the knee. Mario kart races can become quite intensive, more so as a kid^^
Personally, I’ll be buying the DLC for Animal Crossing and I already have Mario 64 as part of 3D All Stars. There’s not enough there for me to shell out an extra $30/year.
i think the problem is that you cant pay month per month. i agree on all points with you , i am in the same boat. i would consider buying the expansion for a few months , play the titles i want and then be done with it till they release stuff that i am maybe interested in .
I had no interest in the basic service to begin with as I don't utilize cloud saves, play online, or care to access games I don't "own" - the new service price hike was not a great look. This seals the deal on not getting.
U need to pay so u can play star fox
@@matuscara4733 V1 switch and retroarch for me 👌
@@matuscara4733 thanks i'll play it on my emulator
Any games bought digitally or that require downloads to be able to play are not "owned" by you. If a game relies on verifying your account has the right to play these games, what happens when you can't access the servers? (It only works so many days without a connection) , what if the internet is down / doesn't exist where you are? What if Nintendo shuts down the servers for the system someday?
This, exactly. I'd like to buy a Virtual Console of Ocarina of Time, just like I bought the 3ds Cart, the GameCube disc, the N64 cart.
16:14 THIS... this right now. Having this weird makeshift "Game Pass" and all these nostalgic games mean nothing if the online is just as mediocre as it was back on the WII... and it used to be free so back then, we put up with that.
But when we knew it was gonna be paid back in 2017, we had hope for improvement to the online as a whole. And all Nintendo seems to care about is MILKING the nostalgia with these retro titles on NES, SNES, N64, & GENESIS while not addressing the issues being brought up so often about the online.
The selling point of playing N64 games with friends means nothing to me when the service is just mediocre and overpriced for what's being offered. If we're not having fun with it, why even bother?
I honestly wouldn't mind paying more for a Nintendo service that is similar to Game Pass. Game Pass Ultimate is $180 per year and includes Xbox Live Gold ($60 per year alone) plus over 800 games across Xbox and PC, most of which are from the 2010s/20s. I would pay $200 per year if Nintendo improves their online to match Sony and Microsoft, add games to the existing consoles on NSO, add tons of games for their other old consoles up to the 3DS and Wii U, and include some Switch games.
Yeah I would buy the expansion pass if it had more things I’m just gonna buy the acnh dlc
Exactly!
Wolf, I'm a 27 year old single father who collects retro games as a hobby and occasionally plays them as an escape from the struggles of life. Lately I've been struggling mentally and been in the lowest and darkest point of my life because of financials taking a hit and feeling like I can't climb back up and potentially not being able to give my kiddo a good life. Moving away from that, your videos, your channel have helped distract me from those not okay thoughts and occasionally make me forget how hard everything is for a bit. Just wanted to reach out and thank you for being you and the distractions. Peace and love, Brandon.
Really hope Nintendo interprets any impact to sales as “oh we’re charging too much,” and not “huh people don’t care about N64 I guess.”
The game cartridge is already OP then releasing dlc with the same price as the OG game with little content. Pinching people to waste their money on little play time. Not cool.
You know it's gonna be the latter. That kind of thought process from them is probably why Virtual Console ceased to exist.
I'm confident this will be a success for them. People complain a lot online but it doesn't matter as long as Nintendo gets it's $$$.
Nintendo fans arent that smart, they will pay for this overpriced service
@@IvanGarcia-xf3qd yeah they would buy a card board box if it had Nintendo on it
You hit the nail on the head at the end there, the actual online service at its core is horrendous for 2021. The original xbox had a better service back in 2003! Why people pay for this joke subscription is beyond me
You need to to play most if not all games online that aren't free to play or otherwise excepted. We HAVE to pay for at least the base service. Kinda makes it suck even more, cos maybe that's why Nintendo hasn't done crap with it yet. They don't have to, even if everyone and their parents are screaming that they really should.
The thing is... there is no alternative. I HAD to pay, so I could play with my friends online, and with the pandemic, there was no other option.
@@ChiplockRock There is another option. Nobody buys it and Nintendo is forced to make a better service
I mean most people won't think about this before buying it. Maybe the minority sure, but even then they'll still buy it.
I mean your not actually getting an online service as such, your basically paying Nintendo to allow peer to peer connection with other players , it's laughable
Bruh the intro hit my nostalgia train. Hearing Epona gallop is insta chicken skin.
‘Chicken skin’ lmao
Bruh what is chicken skin you from hollans
Idk what chicken skin means but I’m gonna agree anyway
@@delgat000 in Holland we say “kippenvel” literally translated to “chicken skin” but in otherwords it means Goosebump. I have no clue if he was regering to it tho.
Oh, so I somehow mistook goosebumps for chicken skin. Don’t ask me how though lol.
My main thing, is I’m in charge of the family membership with my two siblings, and we all play Animal Crossing. So it would cost me a min of 50 for 2DLCs if I do some weird player/home-device shenanigans (which might annoy them to set up). Or 75 for all of them bought individually. And then on top of that, with the subscriptions we get extra things like ocarina, and potentially new DLCs like Pokemon, which would be worth it for me in particular.
But then there’s that nagging thought that if we ever stop, we just can’t play Animal Crossing? If you stop, how much would it affect the gameplay? Would it wreck any of the game files to stop and start again later?
It’s confusing and annoying. Cause it makes sense now, but I’m just worried about later. Especially as Animal Crossing is a game that never really dies. One of my siblings still logs in to their new leaf DS game now and again. It’s perplexing, and I just wish they made it a little bit cheaper, cause it’s hard to justify the giant annual price. We’ll see I suppose. 🤔
I'm hoping with the acnh dlc that you just won't be able to do the job aspect, but you'll still get to keep the changes on your island. I feel like if everything disappeared then you wouldn't be able to play/the file would get corrupted and both of those options would hurt Nintendo. I think players will be trading the new items with other players who can't get the dlc like they've been doing with the Sanrio items
They would need to do a few things to make it worth it. Especially for those of us who have a family plan.
1) Clear-cut defined schedule of what games are being released and when they are being released.
2) The ability to download and play offline either all or a selection of games (obviously not the crappy ones)
3) Introduction of GB, GBC, and GBA.
4) Purchase the stand alone upgrade automatically gets you one of the controllers (your choice) and family plan gets you at least two.
4 is laughable. You're absolutely ridiculous to expect expensive wireless controllers for free.
The Switch operating system really needs stuff like Party Chat on console like Xbox and being able to message friends on console like PlayStation and Xbox. If they added this and improved the new Switch online subscription with more pieces that make it worth the price (also fixing the issues) I personally believe this would make the Switch better then it is today and help it start a new generation on this console.
Also love your vids, keep making more and I promise to keep on loving them
Now it's the only save way to let my Child of 6 year play a game without to worry about strangers around him.
Tbh as someone who played other handhelds (as that's what the switch primarily is) with voice chat I personally don't think it would be as good as people want it to be. Now messaging would be nice between friends
@@edwindevries5869 I agree
A comment before yours made a really good point about this saying that Nintendo and its products are Family friendly. Although parents can use parental controls they can't control what people online say. There are obviously older Nintendo fans and do play these games alongside kids. So ultimately it does make sense why they haven't done it yet. But it would be great if they did have these features nonetheless
Nintendo won’t give us party chat. It’s Nintendo
8:55 The L button toggles the music, you can hear the toggle sound, are you sure one of you didn't accidently press L? It only works on 1-2 players AFAIK
Yeah I noticed that too, I dont know why Nintendo had that as a feature back then, but it was
Yea he def turned the music off himself
yes lol
To be honest I'm not mad anymore. I'm just sad that a company that has literally made my childhood and still continues to give me enjoyment to this day doesn't care.
"a company that has literally made my childhood and still continues to give me enjoyment to this day doesn't care"
I always find it problematic to give companies personality traits like that. A company is not one person. It's a name for a group of people working together for a specific period of time before some of them leave the company and get replaced by new people and so on. Nintendo is just a brand name like every other brand name and most of the people, who were there at the beginning, aren't even there anymore. It's also a company and just like every other company... they wanna make the money. The only reason why Nintendo seemed genuine at the beginning is because gaming wasn't as huge back then as it is nowadays. Once a medium reaches a certain size it gets corrupted. The movie and music industry were predecessors to this sad direction swift and the gaming industry is following those foot steps. We should stop defending companies (because let's be real... they are all bad) and should judge products individually instead (no matter which company is behind it).
@@RizzerixLP people really be thinking nintendo is a charity
That de-escalated quickly
@@RizzerixLP he's the part I just don't understand. They're a company who wants to make Money. Then why are they so linear with online. If they had a good service they would make more money. We are trying to help them make it better by pushing. And even if people buy it anyway, shouldn't that like encourage Nintendo to make it better so that more people will buy it instead of dencourage it? I mean that's simple economics. Supply and demand.
they never cared my guy, and they'll keep taking your money as long as you pay.
As someone who’s first consoles were the Wii and DSi, the NSO Expansion Pack doesn’t have much appeal to me. I think that Nintendo is really banking on nostalgia to get that extra $30.
Love how this dude says Astral Chain needs a DLC nonchalantly, keep pushing boys, we can get this!!
I really feel like if they add more games especially heavily requested games and handhelds like gameboy or gameboy advance or maybe even other sega consoles it would definitely worth it or maybe just making the online better like adding trophies and party chat
Give me a trophie
100% agree with this.
I think Nintendo except for what the have shown they will be adding that there is nothing else coming as that’s how they roll.
If they're just going to put in the lowest effort of emulation then they might as well give us a hundred games, just every first party game (the ones they don't have to license) and then I'd say the price is reasonable.
I would say they would ask for even more money if they added more consoles.
As much as I want it to play the N64 games because I haven’t played any I’m not quite keen on the $50 right now.
Sucky emulation and no optimal controller
High priced upfront cost I'm thinking of just passing on it
N64??? Your not missing much.
I miss blockbuster it was an amazing time to be alive during that time
The video that I was expecting since yesterday. Thank you so much Wood 😍
I really wanted to play "Win Back" and "Sin and Punishment" again, so I was pretty excited for this. But I'm also paying for the family plan for myself, at least one of my brothers, and my son. So uh... $80 a year is making me hesitate pretty hard.
But if they just include the DLC for their future games that could make a big difference. Like, if having this got you the Fighters Passes for Smash that'd be pretty cool. So... I dunno. I'm gonna have to wait and see how it goes.
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I was really lookong forward to getting that N64 controller too.
Agreed! I use a fam pass for myself, hubby, mom, and sis. 80 is a LOT and is a big barrier for us. We want access, but that price tag is so high for so little.
Project 64 download all the roms you want buy a n64 usb pad £10 and enjoy
Nintendo: "If you want properly implemented voice chat, we will have to add another $15/y to your cost for that feature."
Voice chat? For 15$ ? Dream on. You will be glad if u get an inbuilt fax machine for extra 49,99 and they'll expect you to thank them for their inovation
Im so happy that you made the point about it being an online Service that doesn’t actually offer good a online experience.I have been getting so frustrated that everyone is just talking about the games. For me the online service itself was never worth it and them making it even more expensive feels like a joke. I feel like they wanted to get more money out of it but realized only the N64 games wouldn’t be enough so they bundled in genesis and the DLC.
I haven't played starfox64 (my childhood favorite game) in years so I bought it and I had a tear playing 😢
I already have several devices that can play N64 games really well so I'm not really interest at the moment, maybe in like a year if they add another system.
The opening theme for ocarina of time is one of those serotonin sounds for me. Instantly throws me back into nostalgic memories of simpler times.
Maybe one day I'll feel like I used to again.
When playing OoT I keep using the right stick to try and move the camera and I keep pulling out the slingshot!
@Zooka would have to be like in the old days where you move Link into a direction and press the z button I’d think
I'm a die-hard, long time Nintendo fan, and the N64 is the console I credit with getting me into gaming (Ocarina of Time and the 64 version of Resident Evil 2 were the first games that I fell in love with, having mostly played NES, SNES, and Sega games with my family before that). That said, Nintendo is really snoozing on the potential of the Switch, and this online service highlights that. How hard would it be to release Joy-Cons that have a special N64 style layout to make playing those old games that much easier (though I'd rant all day about the failures of the Joy-Cons, and all the missed opportunities that Nintendo could have had with those)? With fan driven emulation being both free and practically flawless, albeit questionably legal at best and blatantly illegal at worst, why is the company that made the games having trouble emulating them? As much as I love Nintendo, I feel like they've grown comfortable and complacent with their position in the console wars and the security of their fanbase. Since Nintendo thrives on exclusives that we all grew up with, like Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Donkey Kong, etc, and offers a relatively different style of game play from PlayStation or Xbox, they don't feel like they need to do anything special to compete or apply any additional effort to fix their own mistakes. A good example of this is that I would have probably bought a Switch Lite, and would have considered a Switch OLED, but since I know they're still using the same old Joy-Cons with the same old drift, I can't justify it (I use the Hori Split Pad Pro, and while it's starting to have issues after more than a few years of use, they're minor and often easily resolved). Nintendo needs to step it up, and quit settling for sub-par equipment and half-assed releases. I for one won't be touching this new online service, and honestly encourage others not to until Nintendo gets their act together.
Remember that time a couple of months ago when Xbox doubled the price for Xbox Gold Online and people got too mad to the point that they had to change it?
@@ringofdreal1374 I don't subscribe to any company making you pay for online gaming, so I wasn't aware of that, but I'm not surprised.
I 100% agree, particularly with the Zelda games. I would have loved (and paid) for physical/digital copies that were better remasters. Many other companies have released remastered versions of older games that look and play well, this really does feel like a half-assed attempt to have us fork over more money. Also, considering the recent Zelda anniversary was fairly lackluster, I’m even more disappointed. I just really wanted some badass versions of Ocarina of Time and Majoras Mask I could play whether I could connect to the internet or not.
@@astrozach7778 Yeah, Nintendo went hard for the Mario anniversary and then acted like Zelda was no big thing. They could have at least ported the 3DS versions of OoT and MM to Switch (with minor adjustments to account for the different controls).
Well, first of all, you played RE2 wrong. The N64 was a garbage port. The PSX version has always been and will always be superior.
Thats why I went out of my way to get NSO+Expansion pack for $10. Screw the $50 or $80 price tag.
For 10? How?
@@hikariyagaza I joined someones family plan.
I remember having this same sound glitch playing rainbow road on the n64 back then. Maybe the emulation is really accurate 😂
That Zelda music is like a monsoon of nostalgic feelings
I like waking up and knowing that I have Wood to look forward to.
Wtf what time do you wake up lol
Nice wood mate
Yeah I usually wake up with morning wood
But I dont particularly look forward to it
I see what you did there
😏
Totally not worth it. Nintendo should have launched it with way more content and better emulation. If you guys vote with your dollar, Nintendo will adapt. Until then....
At the bare minimum, (and assuming this DLC thing is going to continue with other games using expansion pack) Nintendo should’ve given a download code for the DLC. You should own it, not just “rent” it. It’s not like you can pay for one month and then cancel, effectively getting something for free. You can only get the 12 month plan.
You convinced me, I'm gonna replay astral chain
Bob and Wood are so different in their content and presentation of content. But they are so good together. I love these moments.
Wow I got chills hearing that title screen for zelder. Love ya wood!!!!