@@annieo6527exactly! Maybe Ridge should have shown some interest in Macy.. See how fast Thorne would have been all over trying to get back Macy. And Brooke would have equally been all over trying to get Ridge back
Now THAT would have a been a good plan instead of the Venice thing. brooke would still be jealous over Ridge, and Thorne would go to Macy if Ridge pretended to want her.@TriniT21
Not Eric, who was running around behind Steph's back with Brooke, yelling at Thorne about doing the same thing he did. If Eric had just kept it in his pants after Ridge chose Caroline, Brooke would never have had any inroads in Forrester in the first place.
Exactly! He told Brooke that she needs help, not another Forrester. Eric should’ve taken his own advice with the Logans. I have to admit that Eric is likable this season.
@@Esi-741I know they are making him more likeable now, but I just can't take him seriously... Esp since he is gonna be right back to kissing Brooke's behind like none of this ever happened.
It's heartbreaking how when Macy talks to Eric in his office she says not that Thorne _is_ in love with Brooke, but that he _thinks_ he's in love with Brooke. With everything she has left, she is flghting back against the narrative that her husband is truly in love with another woman, and she is begging for help to make Thorne see what she sees - that his relationship with Brooke is an iIIusion and that his marriage to Macy is the real thing. And tragically, he will eventually come to this realization on his own, but by then it'll be too late. Meanwhile, Eric is just now figuring out that Macy will soon be another former girlfriend of one of his sons...
As someone who leads a team of attorneys, I just can’t get past his compelling a drunken woman to sign important legal documents without having her own attorney review them. IRL she could sue and get the divorce overturned on those grounds alone. She is clearly not of mind to give consent in this stage.
@@FayeILvery good point. Even if Macy wasn't drinking that day, she's definitely not been at her best mental state for weeks and weeks, and Thorne knows it.
Thorne’s feigned concern for Macy is such BS. If he really cared about her he would support her through rehab instead of immediately moving in with Brooke.
Nah. Even tho i see your point, in life, it can be very beneficial to literally rip the band aid off all at once. Thorne is actually correct on this part. He should have not had a knee jerk reaction in the first place amd Macy should have stayed firm with the NO.
@@lyndathompson3399 you make an interesting point.. And I think Thorne should have just been honest with Macy in the first place. But while I understand the "ripping the bandaid off" theory, there's also a lot to be said about just common decency, esp by Thorne to the woman who stood by him and once put her life in danger to get him out of jail.
@@babs4848 right, this whole thing is ridiculous, it doesn't make any sense that Clarke would be this upset at Taylor , Ridge or the foresters - this is all Brooke but since he couldn't find her or Thorne, he takes his anger out on Taylor??? LMAO Its clear that the Forresters are against this but there's nothing anyone can do except get rid of Brooke
@@babs4848 its not that she doesn't want to help - Taylor knows there's nothing that can be done! again, they already went to great lengths to try to make Thorne get back with Macy and it worked but only for a while ; so what more can Taylor or the Forresters do??? Taylor doesn't want to get involved because she doesn't want to jeopardize her marriage or family either by involving in this drama. I don't blame her. This is just another mistake Brooke is getting into.
Honestly, neither Thorne nor Macy should be there - at _Brooke's place_ - discussing their marriage or even signing the papers. 😏 But instead of leaving together to talk somewhere in private, that scene ends with Macy driving away alone (despite her drinking) and Thorne having to be reminded by Brooke that Macy shouldn't have.
@@mara4450at least Macy was trying to resolve the situation by suggesting they sit down and talk it out. Even drunk she was trying to be the most reasonable person in the room.
@@annieo6527 Reasonable would be to get sober and then to try to talk some sense into the husband. And if you are lucky, he might be over his infatuation then. Getting drunk and then trying for the x-th time to convince the -crazy-in-love- couple to start to respect your marriage and to give it another chance, sounds more foolish than reasonable. Both haven't cared for Macy before and have rejected her pleas, so why would they now?
When Brooke said to Thorne, You're going to move in here, with meeee, the way it's supposed to be.. "... with her Googlie eyes staring at him, I felt like she was trying to hypnotise Thorne again.
I remember that Macy story is sad and she didn't deserve it, but man... seeing her like this, wanting for someone to help her, for her husband to not leave her, then going to his mistress, falling apart right in front of that vulture's eyes and even Clarke, with kinda egomaniac and selfish side is acting like a real man and leader of his family, willing to fight for Macy's sobriety! Anyway I'm glad someone in Forrester family sees Macy as a wonderful girl (Steph and Eric), 'cause we all remember how long it took her to be a member of this family and yet when marriage troubles hit her and Thorne with all that Gabriela mess, Stephanie still was very indifferent about all of this. Oh, you all regret it when it will be too late.
Macy said “You are the one making this difficult Thorne ,confronting me here in your lovers home” AND he still doesn’t let up!!! Oh ,I can’t stand his character
Thorne worries for a second that Macy is driving around drunk but instead of going to look for her, he complains that they have been so close to get Macy to sign. Thorne, check your priorities!
@@ThomasandHopefan very true.. Altho during his first marriage to Taylor b4 she "died" in Morocco, he aggravated me quote alot. I don't know if it was narcissism or just dumb-ism
@@lollypopjay the other times, the entire process from first talking about divorce to Thorne giving her divorce papers and asking her to sign them didn't take _two days._ Macy is still in shock and she hasn't even been sober once since he asked her for a divorce.
this reminds me of the time Brooke & Bill hooked up behind Katie’s back. And gaslighted her the whole time to the point where she felt crazy & started drinking!
@@babs4848 yup. I didn’t know I loved to hate her. Until it became nothing but indifference or just straight up hate. But I realize I enjoyed her VS Stephanie, Taylor, Macy, Katie etc.
Clarke's "iII wish" on Taylor and Ridge once again makes the connection that Morgan is their punishment for their participation in the Venice scheme. As Taylor refuses to help Macy, Clarke leaves wishing for the destruction of _her_ family. And then we find out that this is actually happening. Morgan is pregnant - because _she_ carried out a deception similar to the one Ridge and Taylor carried out in Venice.
Just to add that as the show is conceived by junior now, good girls are losing dignity and strength and are forced to move in some gray behaviour that ruin them completely. That is more than a temporary punishment as it can be Morgan SL for Tridge.
It's unfortunate that Morgan's function in the storyline (the punishment for Venice) results in Taylor acting out of character in these scenes. Given how dire the situation is, I would never think Taylor would just be passive and allow the storyline to move to its tragic conclusion. It's not in her nature. But, as always, the demands of the plot are more significant than staying true to the character.
These scenes are almost unbearable to watch, with a drunk and heartbroken Macy being cornered by her husband and his Iover and asked to sign divorce papers in front of Brooke _at Brooke's house,_ - especially knowing that even after this, the worst is yet to come for poor Macy. Macy is at her lowest point, she is losing her marriage, her sobriety, and her dignity, while pleading desperately with Brooke and Thorne to come to their senses and end their affair. And in doing so, she is portrayed as path et ic and out out touch with reality, and obstacle to Thorne and Brooke's star-crossed romance, when in fact _Macy is right._ *Every word she says is true* - Thorne and Brooke are just a phase, they are not real, and nothing but pain and regret will come of their brief relationship. But like Cassandra, her prophesies are dismissed as incoherent rambIings. This is usually Stephanie's role, but it's one she can't play in this storyline because Stephanie has been deliberately kept in the dark due to Eric, Ridge and Taylor trying to protect her. So Macy steps in and fills that plot function, just as her role in this entire storyline is to be a stand-in for Stephanie. Macy is the one who con fr onts Brooke in Stephanie's place, Macy is the one whose health has been sacrificed instead of Stephanie's (because of the Venice scheme), and Macy is the one who will ultimately be destroyed and lose her life _in Stephanie's place._
I wrote a comment about that last epi... Who in the world brings divorce papers to thwir wife at the home of his mistress .. Who then stands there watching it all unfold and pretending to care (when really she's just making sure that the divorce is actually happening). 🤢
Yes and in fact, there's an echo of Stephanie in this scene. Way back when Eric was leaving her for Brooke, Stephanie at one point was reduced to her lowest state and literally begged Brooke to give up Eric just as Macy is begging her now to give up Thorne. Intriguingly this occurred in the hospital when Brooke was pregnant with Eric Jr, and that baby is now fully grown and _supporting_ Brooke's destruction of another Forrester marriage. Back then, Stephanie warned Brooke that she would regret marrying Eric because what she really wanted was Ridge and that's exactly what happened. Similarly, Macy's prediction that Brooke and Thorne's relationship is just a "stage" will also end up being true.
Thorne really thought how he handled giving macy the divorce papers was going to end well? 😐 Anyway his step mommy kisses his boo boo to make him feel better. 🤢 I wish Macy went to Steph.. Let her go and s T r a n G le Brooke with immediacy. And then tell Macy all about how to strategically drag a divorce out and make Brooke miserable.
But Macy would never go to Stephanie. Ridge told her not to, because it wouldn't be good for Stephanie's health to know what's going on. And unlike Brooke and Thorne, Macy cares about not unaliving Steph. Even now we see her going to _Eric_ instead.
Clarke needs to calm down - Ridge and Taylor tried helping and nothing has worked. It probably just made things worse since Macy was ready to let him go and move on but now she's drinking again
But that's just it - Ridge and Taylor are partially responsible for the situation so of course Clarke would be upset that _now_ they won't get involved, when it was their involvement that set Macy's downfall in motion in the first place.
@@annieo6527 Clarke is upset and looking to put it somewhere , he's always been immature in that way; this is just the show looking to create a storyline involving him with Morgan and Ridge - it really makes no sense that he thinks the foresters can do anything about this at this point. The only thing would be to get rid of Brooke lol
@@annieo6527 Clarke wants Thorne to stay with Macy how can a psychiatrist help in that regard? If he specifically wants Taylor to help Macy regarding her alcoholism then he should make it about that
I get that Taylor doesn't want to talk to Thorne. Thorne blames her for the Italy scheme as well. But why can't Taylor talk to Macy? She could encourage Macy to get help, to get into rehab (a California divorce generally takes 6 months, so what is the urgency? Macy still can fight for months for her marriage).
So Macy is emotional, vulnerable, and venting to Eric that one of his sons is leaving her when she’s still in love with him? Surprised Eric didn’t try to make a move on her right there
You know what this already-tragic and disturbing episode *didn’t* need more of? Puffer-faced Morgan and her Joker-rictus grin. Ugh. Go away, Morgan. How I wish Morgan had gone after Brooke instead.
Taylor & Caroline Jr really made both versions of Ridge tolerable. Because outside of them. Hes super insufferable. Especially RM version & his horrible acting.
If only Ridge and Eric left Thorne to put on his big boy pants and make his own decisions, Macy wouldn’t have ended up as collateral damage in this Macy/Thorne/Brooke situation.
But then Stephanie would have died instead. It's not just one thing. They _all_ contributed to the situation that will kiII Macy. But Thorne's is the biggest betrayaI because he is the one who made a promise to her.
From what I see Thorne shouldn't have married Macy. Trick or not, which also showed Brooke still in love with Ridge, he acted as a selfish one and he had no respect for Macy.
“We’re not gonna destroy anyone” says Thorne after seeing his wife literally self destruct in front of them hours before over him leaving her for Brooke me smh
This was the most humiliating to do to someone U ask for a divorce and instead of showing it to the concerned you rush to your mistress first then worst you meet your wife there and want her to sign the papers infront of your mistress... Thorne is worse than low he deserved all what he got from brooke after their lame mariage
Not once does a man look good when he was "in love" with Brooke. They become such jerks and the women are downgraded, weak and desperate. The next one is Taylor.
At 18:00 Eric is asking about the whereabouts of the divorce papers. 😅Why? Was Eric going to _confiscate_ them? Thorne is an adult and knows how to get a copy (and he will, now that they are ripped apart).
Up until this point, I liked Brooke, as a character. I thought it was romantic how she always believed her and Ridge were supposed to be together. However, seeing her have no empathy for Macy makes her look cruel. I did like her and Thorne together and hoped this would rehabilitate Brooke. Then, he overhead her saying that she "settled" when she found Thorne. (After all this display in this and subsequent episodes?). And she went after Deacon. That's when I couldn't stomach her anymore.
When I was a child, I rooted for Brooke. Then came the Thorne/Brooke storyline and I saw how she treated Macy, and it was a major eye opener that made me reevaluate the character and her entire history. Suddenly I realized she had been like this all along, and my sympathy for Brooke vanished, never to return.
They are in Brookes home, Macy came there and expects Brooke to leave...lol the writing is awful Macy and Thorne have had major issues from way before THORNE CHASED BROOKE!
I am sorry anyone who doesn’t think the actress who plays Brooke Logan isn’t one of the most beautiful woman in our time is blind I ain’t gay and I feel secure in who I am but truth is the truth she is a gorgeous women and she aged beautifully over the years she as beautiful now as she was then
NOW I SEE WHY THORNE WAS SOOO UNLUCKY IN LOVE...HE ALLOWED BROOKE INTO HIS HEART KNOWING FULL WELL THAT SHE WOULD BE FOREVER OBSESSED WITH RIDGE...HE LOSES MACY....THEN DARLA N HIS ONLY DAUGHTER...IM SORRY I CAN'T FEEL SORRY FOR THORNE AFTER THIS 🤷♀️
Thorne wants to move in with his stepmother and be a father to his siblings. 🤢🤮
Thorne wants caroline, thorne wants brooke, thorne wants taylor...go find your own girl!!!
He _has_ his own girl... and he's divorcing her. 🤦♀
@@annieo6527exactly!
Maybe Ridge should have shown some interest in Macy.. See how fast Thorne would have been all over trying to get back Macy. And Brooke would have equally been all over trying to get Ridge back
He is so ridiculous!!
Now THAT would have a been a good plan instead of the Venice thing. brooke would still be jealous over Ridge, and Thorne would go to Macy if Ridge pretended to want her.@TriniT21
@@TriniT21😂🤣👍
LOL Ridge basically tells Morgan she's not pretty at 3:10. She really is catching all the strays he used to throw at Brooke! 😆
Your so right about that
Morgan's clothes look clownish not elegant like Taylor's.
Y2k Sheila hasn't grown up those are styles I used to wear as a teen
😂😂😂
"Since when have you been too busy to talk to a pretty girl?" Ridge should've said, "I'm still not. BYE." 🤣🤣
Not Eric, who was running around behind Steph's back with Brooke, yelling at Thorne about doing the same thing he did.
If Eric had just kept it in his pants after Ridge chose Caroline, Brooke would never have had any inroads in Forrester in the first place.
Exactly! He told Brooke that she needs help, not another Forrester. Eric should’ve taken his own advice with the Logans.
I have to admit that Eric is likable this season.
@@Esi-741I know they are making him more likeable now, but I just can't take him seriously... Esp since he is gonna be right back to kissing Brooke's behind like none of this ever happened.
Thorne sounds like a rebellious teenager 😂😂 his step mother wants custody of him now
Your so right about that
Custody 😂😂😂😂
So true!
Macy is more clear-headed after drinking than Brook is ever
Yes, even drunk, Macy sees the whole situation more clearly than Brooke and Thorne do.
First Macy acts like Brooke is more attractive than her and now Morgan refers to herself as pretty? Da fuq?? 🥴
Brad wrote the dialogues.
@@Esi-741 Wonder if KKL and Sarah Buxton shared an elevator on their way to the third floor? 😉
@@sharonstewart4882 Girl, that is the most unappealing 3 some 🥴
@@sharonstewart4882😂🤣
I was confused by Macy looking at Brooke at calling her sexy... Ain't no way.
It's heartbreaking how when Macy talks to Eric in his office she says not that Thorne _is_ in love with Brooke, but that he _thinks_ he's in love with Brooke. With everything she has left, she is flghting back against the narrative that her husband is truly in love with another woman, and she is begging for help to make Thorne see what she sees - that his relationship with Brooke is an iIIusion and that his marriage to Macy is the real thing. And tragically, he will eventually come to this realization on his own, but by then it'll be too late.
Meanwhile, Eric is just now figuring out that Macy will soon be another former girlfriend of one of his sons...
Macy should have let Thorne rot in jail
Well there is no justice for Macy.
True
Right. See how much Brooke would have discovered her "love" for him then.
@@TriniT21She couldn't even make Ridge feel better whn he lost his eye sight. Taylor had to go as "volunteer".
Im sure if Macy had a crystal ball at that time, she would have just left him to rot in jail. Lol
Clarke is right about what he says about the Forresters.
For once, Eric finds his inner Don instead of his outer do n g.
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There is no reason on earth or in hell that Thorn had Macy sign divorce papers in from of Brooke. No wonder she went bonkers in less than 30 minutes.
As someone who leads a team of attorneys, I just can’t get past his compelling a drunken woman to sign important legal documents without having her own attorney review them. IRL she could sue and get the divorce overturned on those grounds alone. She is clearly not of mind to give consent in this stage.
@@FayeIL great point! Yes, that makes what he is doing even worse (if possible).
He has no empathy
Thorne and Brooke literally have zero class.
@@FayeILvery good point. Even if Macy wasn't drinking that day, she's definitely not been at her best mental state for weeks and weeks, and Thorne knows it.
Thorne’s feigned concern for Macy is such BS.
If he really cared about her he would support her through rehab instead of immediately moving in with Brooke.
He's just mimicking the feigned concern of his mistress/puppet master Brooke.
Nah. Even tho i see your point, in life, it can be very beneficial to literally rip the band aid off all at once. Thorne is actually correct on this part. He should have not had a knee jerk reaction in the first place amd Macy should have stayed firm with the NO.
@@lyndathompson3399 you make an interesting point.. And I think Thorne should have just been honest with Macy in the first place.
But while I understand the "ripping the bandaid off" theory, there's also a lot to be said about just common decency, esp by Thorne to the woman who stood by him and once put her life in danger to get him out of jail.
@@TriniT21 oh for sure!! ❤
Dang Clarke put the entire Forrester family on blast.
Also, what's Taylor doing at Forrester and more specifically, in Thorne's office.
@@DevikaK100waiting for Clarke😂
@@babs4848 right, this whole thing is ridiculous, it doesn't make any sense that Clarke would be this upset at Taylor , Ridge or the foresters - this is all Brooke but since he couldn't find her or Thorne, he takes his anger out on Taylor??? LMAO Its clear that the Forresters are against this but there's nothing anyone can do except get rid of Brooke
@@deesee3622 I partially agree but I don't understand why Taylor doesn't want to help Macy.
@@babs4848 its not that she doesn't want to help - Taylor knows there's nothing that can be done! again, they already went to great lengths to try to make Thorne get back with Macy and it worked but only for a while ; so what more can Taylor or the Forresters do??? Taylor doesn't want to get involved because she doesn't want to jeopardize her marriage or family either by involving in this drama. I don't blame her. This is just another mistake Brooke is getting into.
Brooke: "I shouldn't be here." _(doesn't leave)_
Honestly, neither Thorne nor Macy should be there - at _Brooke's place_ - discussing their marriage or even signing the papers. 😏
But instead of leaving together to talk somewhere in private, that scene ends with Macy driving away alone (despite her drinking) and Thorne having to be reminded by Brooke that Macy shouldn't have.
@@mara4450at least Macy was trying to resolve the situation by suggesting they sit down and talk it out. Even drunk she was trying to be the most reasonable person in the room.
@@annieo6527 Reasonable would be to get sober and then to try to talk some sense into the husband. And if you are lucky, he might be over his infatuation then.
Getting drunk and then trying for the x-th time to convince the -crazy-in-love- couple to start to respect your marriage and to give it another chance, sounds more foolish than reasonable. Both haven't cared for Macy before and have rejected her pleas, so why would they now?
That moment at 8:26 when Macy is dying inside, and yet she lovingly kisses the hands of her "unaliver". 😭
😡
When Brooke said to Thorne, You're going to move in here, with meeee, the way it's supposed to be.. "... with her Googlie eyes staring at him, I felt like she was trying to hypnotise Thorne again.
I remember that Macy story is sad and she didn't deserve it, but man... seeing her like this, wanting for someone to help her, for her husband to not leave her, then going to his mistress, falling apart right in front of that vulture's eyes and even Clarke, with kinda egomaniac and selfish side is acting like a real man and leader of his family, willing to fight for Macy's sobriety! Anyway I'm glad someone in Forrester family sees Macy as a wonderful girl (Steph and Eric), 'cause we all remember how long it took her to be a member of this family and yet when marriage troubles hit her and Thorne with all that Gabriela mess, Stephanie still was very indifferent about all of this. Oh, you all regret it when it will be too late.
Your so right about that
Yes, this storyline is downright crueI. It's like watching someone repeatedly klck a puppy (I think it was @Nick who first said this).
Macy said “You are the one making this difficult Thorne ,confronting me here in your lovers home”
AND he still doesn’t let up!!!
Oh ,I can’t stand his character
It's at that time, the light bulb should have gone off in Thorne's head as to how inappropriate this approach was
@@TriniT21 exactly
Thorne worries for a second that Macy is driving around drunk but instead of going to look for her, he complains that they have been so close to get Macy to sign. Thorne, check your priorities!
I thought the same thing! Macy is driving around drunk and all Thorne can do is go "oh no, the divorce papers are destroyed".
This show must be very triggering for anyone who's had to deal with a narcissist...
There's Brooke, Morgan, Eric most days, now Thorne.
I think Ridge when he’s not with Taylor is a big one
@@ThomasandHopefanyeah, Stephanie, Macy and Taylor make them bearable.
@@ThomasandHopefan very true.. Altho during his first marriage to Taylor b4 she "died" in Morocco, he aggravated me quote alot. I don't know if it was narcissism or just dumb-ism
@@ThomasandHopefanTaylor made him a better person.
Poor Macy.
Thorne will get what he deserves and also does Brooke.
Your so right about that
@@MichelleCooteeMacy's character is so loveable in many ways.
@@juliaschmidt6511 your so right about that it would have been nice to her again on the Bold and the Beautiful
@@MichelleCooteeUnfortunately they had killed her off ☹
@@juliaschmidt6511 your so right about that
I want to make fun of Brooke and say she is a male cross dresser, but then Morgan comes on the screen….🥴
I believe KKL has chosen this actress 😉.
Is she telling Ridge to go home to his wife or go visit his brother's wife so he can talk to a pretty girl? 🤔🤨
Oh Macy, don't ever beg a man to stay with you.
She’s divorced him twice before and NOW she can’t let him go 🙄
@@lollypopjay the other times, the entire process from first talking about divorce to Thorne giving her divorce papers and asking her to sign them didn't take _two days._ Macy is still in shock and she hasn't even been sober once since he asked her for a divorce.
Yes ladies, remember to not beg a man to stay. If you have to beg, it just means their heart is not that into you.
Thorne did a mistake by leaving Macy for that SFTV.
this reminds me of the time Brooke & Bill hooked up behind Katie’s back. And gaslighted her the whole time to the point where she felt crazy & started drinking!
Your so right about that
Brooke makes even me want to drink 😕
@@TriniT21 loool. I love to hate Brooke 💀but these writers protect her too much.
@@ThomasandHopefanthere is no fun anymore. The previous seasons with Brooke were at least entertaining.
@@babs4848 yup. I didn’t know I loved to hate her. Until it became nothing but indifference or just straight up hate. But I realize I enjoyed her VS Stephanie, Taylor, Macy, Katie etc.
Love the way Ridge squeaks, “What?!” when Taylor tells him about the divorce 🤣 Ronn delivers the goods sometimes.
Clarke you are so right. I thought Taylor would be helpful for Macy's addiction too.
I actually think Ronn Moss looked really good during this era. I can see why Steven Tyler was so drawn to him 😂
For some reason I never found him attractive. I personally think Clayton Nocrosss Winsor Harmon & Thorsten Kaye looks better!
@@ThomasandHopefanthey're all nice looking too. I remember seeing Thorsten Kaye on Port Charles and he was smoking hot!
I think they all looked their best during this season.
Clarke's "iII wish" on Taylor and Ridge once again makes the connection that Morgan is their punishment for their participation in the Venice scheme. As Taylor refuses to help Macy, Clarke leaves wishing for the destruction of _her_ family. And then we find out that this is actually happening. Morgan is pregnant - because _she_ carried out a deception similar to the one Ridge and Taylor carried out in Venice.
Yes! It's really a shame that Morgan is so poorly conceived (and portrayed) as a character because the storyline has some good structural elements.
@@NewYorkNick0607 yes - it's my mantra for this season. Good structure, poor characterization. 😂
Just to add that as the show is conceived by junior now, good girls are losing dignity and strength and are forced to move in some gray behaviour that ruin them completely. That is more than a temporary punishment as it can be Morgan SL for Tridge.
It's unfortunate that Morgan's function in the storyline (the punishment for Venice) results in Taylor acting out of character in these scenes. Given how dire the situation is, I would never think Taylor would just be passive and allow the storyline to move to its tragic conclusion. It's not in her nature. But, as always, the demands of the plot are more significant than staying true to the character.
Taylor is the worse one, she kept a secret from Ridge, sleeping with Dr. James Warick! HYPOCRITE
Sometimes Clarke can actually be Loveable
I like how he is supportive of Macy
Pretty girl? Morgan is _by far_ the u&liest woman on this show!
These scenes are almost unbearable to watch, with a drunk and heartbroken Macy being cornered by her husband and his Iover and asked to sign divorce papers in front of Brooke _at Brooke's house,_ - especially knowing that even after this, the worst is yet to come for poor Macy. Macy is at her lowest point, she is losing her marriage, her sobriety, and her dignity, while pleading desperately with Brooke and Thorne to come to their senses and end their affair. And in doing so, she is portrayed as path et ic and out out touch with reality, and obstacle to Thorne and Brooke's star-crossed romance, when in fact _Macy is right._ *Every word she says is true* - Thorne and Brooke are just a phase, they are not real, and nothing but pain and regret will come of their brief relationship. But like Cassandra, her prophesies are dismissed as incoherent rambIings.
This is usually Stephanie's role, but it's one she can't play in this storyline because Stephanie has been deliberately kept in the dark due to Eric, Ridge and Taylor trying to protect her. So Macy steps in and fills that plot function, just as her role in this entire storyline is to be a stand-in for Stephanie. Macy is the one who con fr onts Brooke in Stephanie's place, Macy is the one whose health has been sacrificed instead of Stephanie's (because of the Venice scheme), and Macy is the one who will ultimately be destroyed and lose her life _in Stephanie's place._
Your so right about that
Absolutely
I wrote a comment about that last epi... Who in the world brings divorce papers to thwir wife at the home of his mistress
.. Who then stands there watching it all unfold and pretending to care (when really she's just making sure that the divorce is actually happening). 🤢
Yes and in fact, there's an echo of Stephanie in this scene. Way back when Eric was leaving her for Brooke, Stephanie at one point was reduced to her lowest state and literally begged Brooke to give up Eric just as Macy is begging her now to give up Thorne. Intriguingly this occurred in the hospital when Brooke was pregnant with Eric Jr, and that baby is now fully grown and _supporting_ Brooke's destruction of another Forrester marriage. Back then, Stephanie warned Brooke that she would regret marrying Eric because what she really wanted was Ridge and that's exactly what happened. Similarly, Macy's prediction that Brooke and Thorne's relationship is just a "stage" will also end up being true.
@@NewYorkNick0607wow, great parallel! Do you have the episode number?
Thorne really thought how he handled giving macy the divorce papers was going to end well?
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Anyway his step mommy kisses his boo boo to make him feel better. 🤢
I wish Macy went to Steph.. Let her go and s T r a n G le Brooke with immediacy.
And then tell Macy all about how to strategically drag a divorce out and make Brooke miserable.
But Macy would never go to Stephanie. Ridge told her not to, because it wouldn't be good for Stephanie's health to know what's going on. And unlike Brooke and Thorne, Macy cares about not unaliving Steph. Even now we see her going to _Eric_ instead.
I like Clarke going to bat for Macy ,I really do,but shouldn’t he be with CJ right now??
CJ is in Furnace Creek at Becky's funeral.
@@annieo6527 why aren’t Clarke and Sally their to support him?
Clarke needs to calm down - Ridge and Taylor tried helping and nothing has worked. It probably just made things worse since Macy was ready to let him go and move on but now she's drinking again
But that's just it - Ridge and Taylor are partially responsible for the situation so of course Clarke would be upset that _now_ they won't get involved, when it was their involvement that set Macy's downfall in motion in the first place.
@@annieo6527I think it's the first time I really don't like Taylor.
@@annieo6527 Clarke is upset and looking to put it somewhere , he's always been immature in that way; this is just the show looking to create a storyline involving him with Morgan and Ridge - it really makes no sense that he thinks the foresters can do anything about this at this point. The only thing would be to get rid of Brooke lol
@@deesee3622 but it's not unreasonable that Clarke would ask Taylor, who is a psychiatrist, to help Macy. And it makes no sense that she would refuse.
@@annieo6527 Clarke wants Thorne to stay with Macy how can a psychiatrist help in that regard? If he specifically wants Taylor to help Macy regarding her alcoholism then he should make it about that
Failor, Brock and -Dren- Morgan need a bigger shopping budget. Their outfits look like they were bought at Forever 21.
😂
I get that Taylor doesn't want to talk to Thorne. Thorne blames her for the Italy scheme as well. But why can't Taylor talk to Macy? She could encourage Macy to get help, to get into rehab (a California divorce generally takes 6 months, so what is the urgency? Macy still can fight for months for her marriage).
Morgan buys her clothing at Woolworths
Thorne handled this situation in the worst possible way...
All of this in gront of Brooke. I wouldn't sign them. I diffintly would not make it easy on Thorne
Your so right about that
So Macy is emotional, vulnerable, and venting to Eric that one of his sons is leaving her when she’s still in love with him? Surprised Eric didn’t try to make a move on her right there
Thorne doesn't love Brooke.
He's obsessed with Ridge's women!
He's like his father that way 🤢
And Brooke doesn’t love Thorne, she’s been obsessed with Ridge all her life!
@@scor66You're right.
You know what this already-tragic and disturbing episode *didn’t* need more of? Puffer-faced Morgan and her Joker-rictus grin. Ugh. Go away, Morgan. How I wish Morgan had gone after Brooke instead.
Puffer-faced 🤣🤣 I’m cracking up
Yes, I would have loved it, if Morgan had gone after Brooke! 😂
Now this is an episode!!!
Thank you so much for this really great episode and I hope that everyone is having a great day too
Agree
@@juliaschmidt6511 thank you have a great evening too
@@juliaschmidt6511 thank you and have a great evening too
I'm surprised Eric didn't involve himself with Macy.
Me too
she wasn't with Ridge lol
what does morgan expect? Be real
I had to 😂 at Eric yelling at Brooke because even to this day he's always defending her and panting after her like a playful puppy
For once Taylor shows to be wise! She' s the only one who realises it' s better not to interfere in Thorne and Brooke's affair! God bless you!
When is Jennifer Finnigan debuting?? I loved Bridget under her
At this point, I'd even be rooting for Macy to get back together with Anthony Armando over her staying married to Thorne.
Taylor & Caroline Jr really made both versions of Ridge tolerable. Because outside of them. Hes super insufferable. Especially RM version & his horrible acting.
If only Ridge and Eric left Thorne to put on his big boy pants and make his own decisions, Macy wouldn’t have ended up as collateral damage in this Macy/Thorne/Brooke situation.
But then Stephanie would have died instead. It's not just one thing. They _all_ contributed to the situation that will kiII Macy. But Thorne's is the biggest betrayaI because he is the one who made a promise to her.
From what I see Thorne shouldn't have married Macy. Trick or not, which also showed Brooke still in love with Ridge, he acted as a selfish one and he had no respect for Macy.
“We’re not gonna destroy anyone” says Thorne after seeing his wife literally self destruct in front of them hours before over him leaving her for Brooke me smh
I guess since Stephanie is stronger now, nobody can get involved now.
Thorne is a piece of work
This was the most humiliating to do to someone
U ask for a divorce and instead of showing it to the concerned you rush to your mistress first then worst you meet your wife there and want her to sign the papers infront of your mistress...
Thorne is worse than low he deserved all what he got from brooke after their lame mariage
Did Morgan refer to herself as a “pretty girl”?
Loook I try to be nice when it comes to these characters appearances but she’s giving delusional 😂
And Ridge basically told her she wasn't! 😂
She thinks she's Liv Tyler but she's actually Steven Tyler.
When ya have to say it about yourself you’re not! 🤓
I mean.. Talk about an overactive imagination on Morgan's part
Not once does a man look good when he was "in love" with Brooke.
They become such jerks and the women are downgraded, weak and desperate.
The next one is Taylor.
At 18:00 Eric is asking about the whereabouts of the divorce papers. 😅Why? Was Eric going to _confiscate_ them? Thorne is an adult and knows how to get a copy (and he will, now that they are ripped apart).
so if someone wants a divorce must alll the family be involved ?
Up until this point, I liked Brooke, as a character. I thought it was romantic how she always believed her and Ridge were supposed to be together. However, seeing her have no empathy for Macy makes her look cruel. I did like her and Thorne together and hoped this would rehabilitate Brooke. Then, he overhead her saying that she "settled" when she found Thorne. (After all this display in this and subsequent episodes?). And she went after Deacon. That's when I couldn't stomach her anymore.
Same.
Agreed
I’ve never liked Brooke from the beginning!
I hated her since day1
When I was a child, I rooted for Brooke. Then came the Thorne/Brooke storyline and I saw how she treated Macy, and it was a major eye opener that made me reevaluate the character and her entire history. Suddenly I realized she had been like this all along, and my sympathy for Brooke vanished, never to return.
Thorn and Brook make us sick too
Macy speaking for most of us.
If someone tells Macy that being a drunk can make you fat, I bet she quit drinking then. Bet!!!!
They are in Brookes home, Macy came there and expects Brooke to leave...lol the writing is awful Macy and Thorne have had major issues from way before THORNE CHASED BROOKE!
recent Ridge haircuts ......
where is episode 2120????
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I am sorry anyone who doesn’t think the actress who plays Brooke Logan isn’t one of the most beautiful woman in our time is blind I ain’t gay and I feel secure in who I am but truth is the truth she is a gorgeous women and she aged beautifully over the years she as beautiful now as she was then
Why is it that the B&B women become alcoholics and not the men? 🥴
Deacon is an alcoholic, but in current episodes he drinks like it's no big deal.
@@lindsaym1226 I guess they want us to forget he’s an alcoholic.
Why was Brooke an alcoholic again?
@@Phillybags because she didn't have a man
@@lindsaym1226 😂😂😂
I was just wondering when Brooke had a drinking problem because Sheila was spiking her drink for New year’s last year
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NOW I SEE WHY THORNE WAS SOOO UNLUCKY IN LOVE...HE ALLOWED BROOKE INTO HIS HEART KNOWING FULL WELL THAT SHE WOULD BE FOREVER OBSESSED WITH RIDGE...HE LOSES MACY....THEN DARLA N HIS ONLY DAUGHTER...IM SORRY I CAN'T FEEL SORRY FOR THORNE AFTER THIS 🤷♀️
Is Taylor working @ Foresstor’s, why isn’t she @ her office as a Psychiatrist?
Brooke is a waste of a character!
Your so right about that
Bradley Bell loves her.
I don't know why.
He's really good in destroying good characters like Macy and Taylor.
@@juliaschmidt6511 your so right about that
😂
I think Brooke is an excellent character for a soap opera.
The hairdresser on this show is the pits.
Brooke looking on like a vulture.