Pipes Have Landed!! Ufo vs Enterprise vs stock.
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- Опубліковано 25 січ 2023
- Doing some dyno runs on these awesome pipes made by Morgan, from wild west garage.
Here is a link to his channel.
• UFOs Sighted in BC
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RIP Jed Walters. 🙏
Jed or “JEDI” as I referred to him was a good man. I sent him some chains awhile back and he handfiled them sqr/sqr Jed style - sent them back to me with a file too! I had some good convo with him but never had the pleasure of meeting him in person … there’s a go fund me on guiltily of treason channel to help the wife and children he leaves behind …. RIP JEDI
Very tragic. He seemed like a very nice Man.
Who is he?
@@hardcoreplayafromthehimala4888 watch Jacob rogers videos /guilty of treeson he was good buddys with Jed and worked with him
Rest in peace Jed
I'm so pleased to see that they DID actually make more power than just a gutted can, and the craftsmanship alone is worth the price of admission if they ever become available. Works of art indeed.
It would really be a fun experiment to alter the dimensions, and diameters to see if the same design could be tweaked to raise the power peaks even higher.
Great work Morgan!
I agree!
@Gearhead modded can with deflectors , piped modded can will not equal these style pipes - I’ve tested my version of the Bearclaw muffler against a stock can , dual port can , piped can and they ALL LOSE
Ufo pipe is slick. Pretty interesting to see the power characteristics change that much with a pipe that only occupies factory exhaust space.
Nice gains from a bolt on pipe! I think this would be a great addition to enhance a ported saw. Thanks for the testing Joe! Nice work Morgan!
Congratulations on 10k+. Thank you for doing this test. "If you can't measure it, you can't improve it" is the motto in many places.
Well done Morgan!
Thank you!
The value of having a dyno.... it dont have an opinion just tells it like it is.
Thanks for bringing the results to us, it just stops all the chit-chat stone dead.
I knew that Morgan had built more than artwork. Great job my friend and thank you Dyno Joe for testing them!
In my opinion 1/2 hp gain with chainsaw bling it’s definitely a win win. I think Morgan is onto something there with those sleek custom pipes. Could he be an innovator in the next big chainsaw thing?
Great work Morgan & Joe. Can't wait to get my hands on one for my little channel.
RIP Jed.
Pretty awesome to see that u sent these away. I am not surprised that they work very well...significant gains. Great work.
Very cool. Thank you for taking the time to test these!!
Absolutely beautiful craftsmanship! As well as the Ram Horn pipe that Bucking runs on his saws there's a lot of effort that goes into producing and perfecting a muffler such as these. Great Work Morgan!!!
They may not be for everyone, but they do perform and have proven that on the dyno, thanks Joe for producing this video and showing off the work of a master metal crafter.
Would love to see the factory muffler opened up and compared to these three.
You have to be careful running pipes that dump out the front. In big timber about two thirds of the way through the log it can block the exhaust and lean your saw right out. Ask me how I known. lol
Took me a few cuts to figure out what was going on, because I had just built the saw I kept thinking something was wrong with the saw itself.
Thanks Joe for a great video great work on the pipes Morgan.
It looks like the un-modded muffler performed better at wide open throttle (WOT). When cutting wood, I've got the throttle at WOT 80% or more of the time. Plus, if you're thinking they may interfere with the safety bar or the wood being cut, I think I'd just keep my Stihl, stock. Form follows function, in my opinion.
Real numbers are great to see. Thanks Joe. I would have never guessed a half horse increase. Cheers
That’s really cool that you got a couple of Morgan’s pipes to test out. He lives about 40 mins away from me. The guy is one heck of a metalworker.
Defiantly a work of art. I use to weld for a living and took pride in my work. Those are beautifully done. There is some thought and time in those.
Can't wait to see mogans mini expansion chamber on the dyno he does beautiful work
Great job Joe. I've been waiting for this one. Awesome stuff.
Congratulations on 10K+ Joe, and Morgan pipes are cool
I love these pipes espesially the UFO, after seeing the dyno runs I want one even more! Great video! Great work Morgan!
I was hoping the ufo would improve hp over the others, also wondering if modded stock pipe would increase hp. Morgan is a genius. Thanks Dyno Joe.
So I paused the video to make this comment before knowing the results, I was sure the UFO pipe would be a winner for power, and the Enterprise pipe would make an interesting sound.
Ok I wasn't sure if the Enterprise would be so close to the UFO, but hay look at that.
If the the guy who makes these went into prodution and sold them on Etsy I think he would do really well.
Beautiful pipes, glad to see a significant gain on both, as cool as the enterprise looks I have personally always liked the look of the UFO best, don't know why, just do.
As stated in other comments would be good to see how these percentage gains stack up against an opened up stock pipe, key to the bush etc.
Thanks for your time Joe, always, always appreciated.
Amazing that an exhaust the size of the stock exhaust gives 10% more power. Thanx a bunch Joe.
Very nice, good to see these pipes are more than just good looking!
good stuff , pretty much what the wood told me, thx for takin' this on Joseph
Yessir! Thank you! Glad to hear it is in line with your findings!
Nice work from Morgan. The dyno is the arbiter of truth. They work.
The creativity and design is great! 🤙🏼😎
Really enjoy seeing mods tested in this way. Thanks!
Thanks for the video and testing Morgan’s pipes
Props to Morgan! I built the iron horse pipe for my 372 x torque last year and buckin's key to the Bush for my 385 and to see the amazing craftsmanship in these 2 pipes is awesome! It's not easy to build a pipe that nice that makes good gains! I hope Morgan will decide to market them! Great work!
I'd buy one for my 372xp
I agree. I was in a large power tool shop this morning and was told by an employee (sadly) in Victoria, Australia, alot of councils, Vic Roads and utility maintenance government bodies are no longer using petrol powered tools. They have to use battery power.
@@dentondunn4346 I would as well
Wow. Enterprise, Dual outlet is my fav. Morgan did a beautiful job on those. Killer sound! Can’t wait to get my hands on one!
Very nice pieces, glad to see the numbers. Sure hope he starts to sell them!
Thanks for testing Morgan' s pipes, they look great
Thank you Joe for testing these pipes for Morgan! He does some incredible work👍🏻 tho I don't currently own a saw those would fit on without modification, it would be awesome at some point in time to own one!
Enterprise dual outlet is lower temp on the side where cooling air comes from. Doesn’t mean internal air flow is uneven based on color alone.
great video I figured we would see these sorta results across the board. I'm lucky enough to have the enterprise pipe and i love it
Great video Joe. It’s always nice to see the numbers you have a leg up in my opinion because you can do that. I like the enterprise looks but your point on needing a brace makes sense. Keep on rolling love the channel.
Awesome pipes. A real craftsman.
Been waiting to see this! Thanks Joe!
That's cool Joe. Nice work Morgan.
Interesting results Joe. I'd be curious to see a run with one of your muffler modded deflectors on the same saw. See how he traditional muffler mod does on Dyno.
Me too.
Great video with proven results. I would have one of the these pipes just for the looks and sound, and the 11.5% improvement is a bonus.
Have been waiting for these results since Morgan mentioned sending them this direction. I truly enjoy seeing the all of the dyno results and hope to see videos continue in the future. Nice job on the pipes Morgan. How about a few for the stihls as well.
I like both Morgan's pipes, but definitely like the UFO pipe the best. I just cut firewood, but would love a cool pipe lke that. Morgan's a helluva' tin knocker, & from the looks of his work, understands the dynamics of expansion chambers, & exhaust theories. Thanks Joseph.
Great work, Morgan and Joe. I would love to see a dino run with the factory muffler modded.
Just thinking the same
Yes, add an exhaust port to the factory gutted muffler and see what the gains are.
awesome video .very nice u guys workin together .nice pipes morgan .peace an love from scotland stu
Great workmanship
Very cool to see how they perform.
Morgan makes metal look and sound awesome ❤
Both are beautiful, like you said art. Really like the UFO. Was surprised by how close all three were in the higher RPM range.
i dont even have a chain saw but that ufo sounded awesome
Good deal. I'd really like to see how a stock modded muffler with a deflector would do. 😉
Jetting needs played with now. Thanks for your hard work
When I was building saws the muffler mod was the best part of doing a mod build
I'd love a couple UFOs fire wood cutter
Awesome comparison video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice to see the actual numbers of these mufflers. The dyno certainly proves the theory of increasing the performance of a saw as the number don't lie. I would imagine the results in the wood would be similar if not a slight improvement when the saw is under a natural load, doing what it was designed to do. Just due to the fact that it can exhaust the air swifter in grunt mode, so to speak. If the price is right I would go for one of each for sure to experiment on my saws. (268xp & 272xp). Would be interesting to see the "Ram Horn & The Ironhorse" on the dyno as well and compare them all "Amano Amano". Thanks Dyno Joe and Morgan for this great experiment and now proof of concept.
Beautiful pipes and even more so once they blued from the heat, added power is nice to and making a more usable power range.
Those pipes look great the Enterprise in the UFO I'd like to run those with blendzall castor oil
As I get older I like the quieter sounds!! I like the stock pipe with added port myself
I was looking for this comment..... Chainsaws are so loud and annoying to begin with, I can't imagine someone he uses it every day would want it to be even louder. Stock all the way!! I wish people would make pipes that are quieter AND more powerful. I don't even want to know the price of these shown, that make them louder.... I'm sure it's insane. Kind of reminds me of the kids that like putting $400 titanium fart cannons on their Civics, and think it sounds and looks good 🤣
@@gutrali agree!! I do residential tree work so I want to keep the noise down. I do modify my own saws. I just take a step bit into the can and weld or braze the appropriate size pipe. I’ve used metal broom handles, curtain rods all kinds of things. Depending on the angle and how much is inside can will determine the loudness in my experience. I try to angle it down away from exhaust port and 1.5-2 inches inside and 1-1.5 on the stick out on outside. They work well for my likings. My coworkers and saws I’ve built the operator seems to be happy. Had a friend straight shot a 562 muffler and it was so obnoxiously loud and sounded horrible
@@SCouch-cw6je I guess we should let these boys have their loud fun before our country eventually forces everyone to go electric anyway lol. I love my husq 440
@@gutrali I run 3 series, 346,359,365sp and 372’s. The 3 series are my favorite series of any husqvarna series I’ve ncluding the 5’s
Awesome pipes!
Nice to see Morgans pipes on the dyno.C ool vid.
Motorized bicycle engine builders are going to be asking for these especially the guys running chainsaw top ends. Those pipes look beautiful but boy they sound mean absolutely love it
I made a similar comment on buckins video on these.
The pipes are a bit too big, if they were 25% smaller they'd run better and be snappier.
They're basically smaller can mufflers with giant outlets, if the outlet was equal to about a one inch pipe they'd be better.
If Morgan is ok with it, weld up the outlet making it close to one inch square total, I bet it makes more power and has better response.
Nice work morgan good video joe
Thanks for the testing and showing us the results. I would like to have a ported designed use a on my 550xp for bucking and smaller work
Nice work Joe !!
Now we know ….. Morgan is an artist !
my buddies and I ran Walkerized saws 20 years ago. This was a ported exhaust with dual outlets.
I'd like to see the stock muffler with a dual outlet...... the other 2 pipes are Works of art..🐚
Dyno only gives hard numbers. In the timber these style pipes are second to none … I’ve built several (original Bearclaw design) and did send one to Joe for testing - came out at 9% peak to peak but the numbers don’t tell the whole story - the throttle response , .5hp gain and .5ft/lb increased torque and the on/off throttle feathering ability make them perfect for treework and firewood duties … wear your hearing protection though , they are LOUD and rowdy
Nice work 🙂
Good way to pick up half a horse Joe, and they don't sound as annoying as a bark box on a 500I which sound horrible
Nanu nanu!👽I knew that the UFO was going to be a winner!🛸
I have followed the journey of these pipes. Wow 11%.
Beam me up Scotty!😃 very cool👍🏻
The UFO is just the perfect amount of saw bling and the fact that it’s actually adding any additional power is huge bonus in my mind!!! That’s a fantastic looking piece of welding skills and I couldn’t get one together that clean without burning up a half dozen flapper wheels!! LMFFAO! I don’t know what exactly they are going to cost but I’m definitely curious!!!! Be the coolest mofo at the wood pile with that piece of saw bling on your rig!!!
Thank you Joe.
Very welcome
Definitely better looking then that stock can and good to see that they produce more power. It would be good to see what the results would be on a ported saw.
I want one so everyone on the Mountain knows who’s in charge!!!, 😂
Awesome looking pipes, I bet they would show more with a ported saw compared to the stock can even more so. Looks like they have the ability to flow some air. I originally thought I liked the UFO more so, but really like the tone the enterprise pipe produced also. Gains were definitely there, hard to gain up high with a non tuned expansion chamber pipe. I would rock either one, I just do firewood. Would definitely show it on any chance I had .
Nice job Morgan! True craftsmanship at it's finest. Definitely 2 of the nicest pipes I have seen. I really like the UFO pipe! It is hard to judge the outlet size in the video but I wonder if the outlet was smaller/ 80% of the exhaust port that it may have preformed even better on that saw. I like the outlet pointing straight forward vs out the side on a work saw, with nothing sticking out in front of the case. A screen option as well. They definitely need a support brace for a work saw as you mentioned. I would run one felling timber and cutting firewood. I have experienced the same results on dual outlet pipes with one side flowing more, so I favor the single outlet. I am testing a single port original 372xp muffler with a 3/4" I.D. pipe in place of the stock outlet vs dual port on a stock 372 x-torque muffler on of my stock 372 x-torque. It would be nice to see a run with different mods on the factory muffler. I have several of these saws with this muffler and would like to find what works best to run on all of them. I would definitely be interested in buying a UFO pipe with the above mentioned tweeks. Thanks for sharing Morgan and Joe.
It would definitely go everywhere with me!
I know the OEM muffler for a 394 is $125.00. If the price for one those custom pipes is within my reach I'm going to order one. Reach is relative of course. Good job everybody involved. Later. 👍
Ya I like buying the farmertec ones to modify, I don’t trust a lot of their stuff but it’s just a sheet metal can anyways
Wow I love the blue color also just curious do you have to readjust the carbon between pipe changes or are they close enough
Thank s Joe!!
Love the 2nd one with double exit pipes. That sounded pretty tough. L8ke them all 4 sure!
Really need to follow up with dyno runs with modified mufflers on the same saw. One test with one added port and another test with two added ports. I'm guessing that those tests weren't done for a reason. I do realize that the type of person that wants these is going after a look rather than performance and the guy probably spent a ton of time building these pipes and did a good job making them look nice but if they don't outperform simple muffler mods people should know.
Excellent build quality. I like the way the Enterprise looks...a lot. I haven't gotten to the numbers yet, but my guess is that there will be no discernible difference between the two pipes, and I'm hoping you compare them to a regular modified can, although I understand if you don't.
Yea, I think a regular high flow modded can will be right there with em, or close
They were very very close. And a normal modified can is usually worth 5-8%
I like the ufo pipe… it would look good on my Jonsered.
You can hear it in the first pipe. I'd love to have one
I would love to see a comparison between a stock muffler and a stock muffler with a simple do at home muffler mod on a stock 372, just to see what improvement we can expect with a do it yourself mod for no cost. Awesome videos, thanks, Mike
More power and a schweet look. Winner winner chicken dinner!
Getting closer to the design of a 2 stroke dirtbike exhaust. Seems to work great for them. Works off sound and supercharges as you know. I thought the ufo would work best due to length of exhaust travel.
10% power gain is nothing to sneeze at. In my humble opinion the guy is on to something with the escalating pipe volume peaking out at the dome. It gives some space for expansion. Been thinking that way for awhile wondering if there was a configuration that would act like a tuned pipe
I would love to see what it would do with the factory opening hogged out and the deflector raised a bit and the screen removed.
My favorite is which ever one makes more power!
when u put a pipe like that do you need to richen the carb or lean it ?
I would think the single outlet UFO with a slightly smaller outlet would put out even better numbers, remembering these type of pipes aren’t big enough to reflect sound wave back pressure, but utilized actual back pressure to manage scavenging. It would be interesting to see how much back pressure would be ideal with some more testing. It’s obvious that in current form it does a great job and it sounds nice. I would use one all the time on my MS400. But I’m just a woodlot owner, not a pro. Nice vid Joe!
The UFO pipe is cool 😎👍