Edit: I seem to have left out what CPU I'm on but it is a 13700K running at 5.4 Ghz! Welcome to my channel! Please like and subscribe! Or unlike and unsubscribe if you hate me 😭
@@2Guys1ControllerShow It gets slightly faster benchmark scores than stock, but I doubt it's something noticeable in irl use. It's slightly undervolted though, so while it technically is a bit better performance, it uses slightly less power and isn't quite as hot as stock.
I'm getting roughly 100 frames per second using FSR 3 with frame generation at 1440p with scaling set to ultra quality on my 4070. And I'm even using the unobtainium settings at ultra.
5600x, 32gb ram, msi 4070 , I too see relatively high frame rates, lowest I've seen was like 50 and that was for a moment, using unobtanium with fsr3+Fg, but the pacing is just AWEFUL no matter what I try, so I swap to ultra with dlss quality and I get 80fps and no more horrid timing stutter
Still watching the video but I must say that the 'jitter' you're seeing with FG is likely because of the lack of vertical sync. You've to have either vsync or VRR enabled to eliminate jitter/judder, whether or not you've FG turned on. In any case, keep-up the good work!
On an unrelated note, I think the 4070 is barely even a 1440p card! The raw pixel throughput is lacking, thanks to 33% less ROPs compared to the 3070. Sure, the 4070 clocks (much) higher, thanks to the potent TSMC N5 silicon, but the pixel throughput is still comparable to a 3070 (~165 GPixels/s). Then there's the vRAM drama. A 192-bit bus simply isn't wide enough for 4K and while, yes, there's a 36MB L2 cache buffer on-board, I don't think it's large enough to provide sufficient hit-rates at anything above 1080p. After all, the 6600XT has 32MB of L3 and its purely a 1080p card.
Yeah you’re right about all of that with the 4070, plus it’s additionally muddied up with the addition of DLSS and frame gen. But most of these new games are sort of just barely cutting it at 1440 on the 4070.
@@PuffinTechYTI don't think you can use frame generation with dlss on Avatar frontiers of pandora. You have to use FSR currently to gain access to frame generation.
Right, I just mean all of those technologies separately make it a lot harder to compare cards like the 3070 and 4070 head to head.@@2Guys1ControllerShow
I don't understand: I see 4K with 70-80 fps in FG, but it feels like 45-50fps maximum. It's important to play. Those who played Cyberpunk at maximum Raytracing remember how smooth were 70fps in Cyberpunk. FSR3 works bad, when framerate is lower than 60fps FG looks like don't give real 70-80fps. Maybe it just double frames for counter, cos can't generate frames in time. It's a fake technology right now. And 120fps doesn't look so smooth like it should be. I tested for 3 hours on 4070, and it's not a half smooth as Nvidia FG in Returnal, Forza Motosport (mode for FG), The Last of Us (mode), Alan wake (78fps are really smooth), Cyberpunk (70fps on RTX max). I really can't see more smooth in 105-120fps AMD FG and 72-80fps for DLSS Quality (without FG). Maybe it add +10% of smooth, it's to small.
Some had pointed out that using VRR or Vsync would be helpful in this case, which I wasn’t doing. It really wasn’t smooth without it, so maybe I’ll do a quick update with that.
@@PuffinTechYT Thanks! Could you hazard a guess at what you think the preformance would be like with the 4070, but with a 4700k? Not sure if we know if the game is more GPU or CPU limited yet, but i'm wondering if that combo would still at least hit 60fps (or even just 48) on high-ultra settings at 1080p, or with DLSS at 1440p.
If you mean a 14700k I expect performance to be very similar to mine. You're much more likely to be CPU limited at lower resolutions like 1080p, but since this game leverages ray tracing at higher graphics presets, I expect that you'll be GPU limited at 1080p high-ultra and 1440 with upscaling. If you're talking about an older CPU like a 4770K then I don't expect that to work very well at all unfortunately, at any settings/resolution.
Edit: I seem to have left out what CPU I'm on but it is a 13700K running at 5.4 Ghz!
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Are you running a slight overclock? I have the same CPU but it registers at 5.3 gigahertz
Yes, just a 100mhz OC on all cores@@2Guys1ControllerShow
@@PuffinTechYT is that worth doing that overclock? Temperature still okay any performance gains?
@@2Guys1ControllerShow It gets slightly faster benchmark scores than stock, but I doubt it's something noticeable in irl use. It's slightly undervolted though, so while it technically is a bit better performance, it uses slightly less power and isn't quite as hot as stock.
@@PuffinTechYT thanks for the insight. I think I'll just keep my stuff stock. I have no complaints yet.
I'm getting roughly 100 frames per second using FSR 3 with frame generation at 1440p with scaling set to ultra quality on my 4070. And I'm even using the unobtainium settings at ultra.
5600x, 32gb ram, msi 4070 , I too see relatively high frame rates, lowest I've seen was like 50 and that was for a moment, using unobtanium with fsr3+Fg, but the pacing is just AWEFUL no matter what I try, so I swap to ultra with dlss quality and I get 80fps and no more horrid timing stutter
Still watching the video but I must say that the 'jitter' you're seeing with FG is likely because of the lack of vertical sync.
You've to have either vsync or VRR enabled to eliminate jitter/judder, whether or not you've FG turned on.
In any case, keep-up the good work!
On an unrelated note, I think the 4070 is barely even a 1440p card! The raw pixel throughput is lacking, thanks to 33% less ROPs compared to the 3070. Sure, the 4070 clocks (much) higher, thanks to the potent TSMC N5 silicon, but the pixel throughput is still comparable to a 3070 (~165 GPixels/s).
Then there's the vRAM drama. A 192-bit bus simply isn't wide enough for 4K and while, yes, there's a 36MB L2 cache buffer on-board, I don't think it's large enough to provide sufficient hit-rates at anything above 1080p. After all, the 6600XT has 32MB of L3 and its purely a 1080p card.
I’ll definitely try that out, one issue I was having was a locked framerate with VRR or vsync enabled, but only when outputting to my capture card.
Yeah you’re right about all of that with the 4070, plus it’s additionally muddied up with the addition of DLSS and frame gen. But most of these new games are sort of just barely cutting it at 1440 on the 4070.
@@PuffinTechYTI don't think you can use frame generation with dlss on Avatar frontiers of pandora. You have to use FSR currently to gain access to frame generation.
Right, I just mean all of those technologies separately make it a lot harder to compare cards like the 3070 and 4070 head to head.@@2Guys1ControllerShow
cpu plays a big role on 1080 / 1440p
no it doesn't
I don't understand: I see 4K with 70-80 fps in FG, but it feels like 45-50fps maximum. It's important to play.
Those who played Cyberpunk at maximum Raytracing remember how smooth were 70fps in Cyberpunk.
FSR3 works bad, when framerate is lower than 60fps FG looks like don't give real 70-80fps. Maybe it just double frames for counter, cos can't generate frames in time. It's a fake technology right now.
And 120fps doesn't look so smooth like it should be. I tested for 3 hours on 4070, and it's not a half smooth as Nvidia FG in Returnal, Forza Motosport (mode for FG), The Last of Us (mode), Alan wake (78fps are really smooth), Cyberpunk (70fps on RTX max).
I really can't see more smooth in 105-120fps AMD FG and 72-80fps for DLSS Quality (without FG). Maybe it add +10% of smooth, it's to small.
Some had pointed out that using VRR or Vsync would be helpful in this case, which I wasn’t doing. It really wasn’t smooth without it, so maybe I’ll do a quick update with that.
What CPU are you using here? unless I missed it I don't see it said in the video
13700K! My mistake, I must have edited that out D:
@@PuffinTechYT Thanks! Could you hazard a guess at what you think the preformance would be like with the 4070, but with a 4700k? Not sure if we know if the game is more GPU or CPU limited yet, but i'm wondering if that combo would still at least hit 60fps (or even just 48) on high-ultra settings at 1080p, or with DLSS at 1440p.
If you mean a 14700k I expect performance to be very similar to mine. You're much more likely to be CPU limited at lower resolutions like 1080p, but since this game leverages ray tracing at higher graphics presets, I expect that you'll be GPU limited at 1080p high-ultra and 1440 with upscaling.
If you're talking about an older CPU like a 4770K then I don't expect that to work very well at all unfortunately, at any settings/resolution.
@@PuffinTechYT Whoops, nope, I meant 8700k! Hopefully my less-ambitious settings makes more sense now, haha